thanks for making this video! digital filters are sounding really good. I will try a few more things when i get my DN2, namely noise pinging, but i heard so far that they really sound close to analog.
The digital side of things sound quite similar, but the ST is still complementary on the analog part. Especially when compared to the DN OG. The only reason the DNII stands out at this point is because of the fact #Elektron didn’t give ST users what was expected, more development on the analog part. The recent update was all about digital and sequencing, nothing on expanding its analog power. No new things on the analog FX Track or machines. The hardware is capable enough, but with the short time between the DTII and DNII releases it is clear they keep the real improvements for STII. My guess is that it will be released in Q1/2025. Again, not because the ST hardware is to old or isn’t capable, but simply because they don’t want to cannibalize on new hardware sales. Still, when compared to DT OG and DN OG the ST still has its unique value and advantages.
Really appreciate your comparison, really great content. Not really many people showing how well the DN2 can emulate analog, despite how capable it is. Really finding it difficult to choose between the Behringer Wave, Nord Lead A1 and DN2. Love multitimbral synths and analog sounding tones, but often with digital synths you can hear an almost an inherit reverb in them, like they somehow sound like they are far away. I notice it alot when I compare my Reface CS with my Pro 800. The Reface CS can sound very wide in stereo with its supersaw and open filter, but somehow lacks the presence that the Pro 800 has and always sounds as if it were in the background. I was wondering if you notice similar with your DN2? For this reason I am perhaps leaning towards the Wave, but I really do love the expanded multitimbrality and workflow of the Nord Lead A1 and DN2. You have shown that DN2 is really capable of sounding like a analog poly. Would love to hear more comparisons between the DN2 and other analog gear you might have, especially big analog polys 😁
I'm not familiar with the reface cs, maybe that "reverb" has something to do with the spread of the oscillators? I have the Pro 800, there are obvious differences, but you can get into that territory with the dn2. In your case I'd ask myself if I wanted a groovebox (with a poly sequencer) or a synth.
Great quick comparison! Both devices have excellent sounding filters. I could hear a tiny difference in the first demo, but as you said, in a finished track it likely wouldnt be noticeable. It was much more clear to me in the bass frequencies later in the video, although it's a little hard to know how much of the difference is in the oscillators. The bass sound you played on Syntakt after 5:50 was certainly more loose and "organic" sounding to me.
It's just a matter of tuning and dialing the right parameters, even for that bass. We're not comparing a moog and an elektron, these two are extremely similar, in the worst case nothing a light eq adjustment can't fix in my opinion
Yeah it definitely sounds to me that the SY's VCOs are driving a little harder into the filter stage, and that's causing the high end to roll off slightly and brings out a couple mid range harmonics a bit more. It's a very subtle difference tho lol. The filters on both of the digi 2s sound noticeably better than the old digis, I don't think it'd be as close of a comparison if you were using a digitone 1. I'm assuming it's because of the better DSP on the new ones
Great video , can you please do one comaring the digital filter on syntakt and see if it's the same as digitone , if so witch one ? (legacy / 4 / multi ?) Thks or just simply make us hear them ... well , like ya did just wann hear if the digiatl filters better in the digitone , not a fan of the syntakt ones (digital ones) Thks again
The digitone 2 outclasses the syntakt in almost every aspect. Wavetone is a very flexible VA, it's closer to the real thing than what most people believe, myself was in the process of porting the analog drum machines to the dn2... Won't miss the fx block as it was a gimmick to me, it always felt like slamming a dirty pedal on a master track. As for the nice quick digital sounds, I still have the good old cycles.
I sold mine as well. I don't regret it. The Digitone II really is fantastic and I don't miss the Syntakt at all. It has everything I wanted to have on an Elektron box. Together with the Digitakt 2, a fantastic combo.
thanks for making this video! digital filters are sounding really good. I will try a few more things when i get my DN2, namely noise pinging, but i heard so far that they really sound close to analog.
The digital side of things sound quite similar, but the ST is still complementary on the analog part. Especially when compared to the DN OG. The only reason the DNII stands out at this point is because of the fact #Elektron didn’t give ST users what was expected, more development on the analog part. The recent update was all about digital and sequencing, nothing on expanding its analog power. No new things on the analog FX Track or machines. The hardware is capable enough, but with the short time between the DTII and DNII releases it is clear they keep the real improvements for STII. My guess is that it will be released in Q1/2025. Again, not because the ST hardware is to old or isn’t capable, but simply because they don’t want to cannibalize on new hardware sales. Still, when compared to DT OG and DN OG the ST still has its unique value and advantages.
The Sy chip isn’t an analog machine ? , for me the only thing missing is polyphonic tracks.
Really appreciate your comparison, really great content. Not really many people showing how well the DN2 can emulate analog, despite how capable it is.
Really finding it difficult to choose between the Behringer Wave, Nord Lead A1 and DN2.
Love multitimbral synths and analog sounding tones, but often with digital synths you can hear an almost an inherit reverb in them, like they somehow sound like they are far away. I notice it alot when I compare my Reface CS with my Pro 800. The Reface CS can sound very wide in stereo with its supersaw and open filter, but somehow lacks the presence that the Pro 800 has and always sounds as if it were in the background. I was wondering if you notice similar with your DN2?
For this reason I am perhaps leaning towards the Wave, but I really do love the expanded multitimbrality and workflow of the Nord Lead A1 and DN2. You have shown that DN2 is really capable of sounding like a analog poly. Would love to hear more comparisons between the DN2 and other analog gear you might have, especially big analog polys 😁
I'm not familiar with the reface cs, maybe that "reverb" has something to do with the spread of the oscillators? I have the Pro 800, there are obvious differences, but you can get into that territory with the dn2. In your case I'd ask myself if I wanted a groovebox (with a poly sequencer) or a synth.
Great quick comparison! Both devices have excellent sounding filters. I could hear a tiny difference in the first demo, but as you said, in a finished track it likely wouldnt be noticeable. It was much more clear to me in the bass frequencies later in the video, although it's a little hard to know how much of the difference is in the oscillators. The bass sound you played on Syntakt after 5:50 was certainly more loose and "organic" sounding to me.
It's just a matter of tuning and dialing the right parameters, even for that bass. We're not comparing a moog and an elektron, these two are extremely similar, in the worst case nothing a light eq adjustment can't fix in my opinion
@SignalBenders yes, that's what I meant - they're both quite similar and quite good! I don't think there's anything to "fix" ;)
Thanks a lot for your comparison !🙏
Yeah it definitely sounds to me that the SY's VCOs are driving a little harder into the filter stage, and that's causing the high end to roll off slightly and brings out a couple mid range harmonics a bit more. It's a very subtle difference tho lol. The filters on both of the digi 2s sound noticeably better than the old digis, I don't think it'd be as close of a comparison if you were using a digitone 1. I'm assuming it's because of the better DSP on the new ones
Great video , can you please do one comaring the digital filter on syntakt and see if it's the same as digitone , if so witch one ? (legacy / 4 / multi ?)
Thks
or just simply make us hear them ... well , like ya did just wann hear if the digiatl filters better in the digitone , not a fan of the syntakt ones (digital ones)
Thks again
Don't have the Syntakt anymore 🙁
@@SignalBenders Oh , why so ? i do think syntakt will be a classic once it's no more produced lol
@@ZozillaThaGreat DN2 is deeper and can totally replace the ST
Do you have doubts about selling Syntakt?
No doubts, no regrets
@@SignalBendersIve been thinking about selling mine as Im not that keen on the sound, may I ask why you sold yours?
The digitone 2 outclasses the syntakt in almost every aspect. Wavetone is a very flexible VA, it's closer to the real thing than what most people believe, myself was in the process of porting the analog drum machines to the dn2... Won't miss the fx block as it was a gimmick to me, it always felt like slamming a dirty pedal on a master track. As for the nice quick digital sounds, I still have the good old cycles.
I sold mine as well. I don't regret it.
The Digitone II really is fantastic and I don't miss the Syntakt at all. It has everything I wanted to have on an Elektron box. Together with the Digitakt 2, a fantastic combo.
Tbh Elektron's analog stuff isn't their strength. Their analog things always sounded quite digital to me.
It’s time to let go of the attachment to analog. Its got a certain sound, sure, to a refined ear, but its limitations are pointless to me now.