The way she defended her stepchildren and did not agree with her advisors to execute them just to secure her son's position on the throne, increased the respect for her by several folds.The best part was she did not act as Kosem Sultan might have expected of her. Kosem Sultan indeed did turn to be power thirsty and evil towards the end of her reign.
24:03 Well, in real life Turhan sultan proved her words. She even protected her stepchildren. 'As long as I live, no prince shall be killed' Turhan also want power like kosem but at the same time she also protects the princes
That is indeed what made her rule as Valide Sultan different from Kosem Sultan.After the power struggle she withdrew herself from the state affairs.She handed over most of her powers to the new Grand Vizier Koprulu Mehmed Pasha after a period of weak Grand Viziers as she realized that she was not too experienced to handle the complex state affairs. I think this indeed was her best move and saved her from meeting the same fate as Kosem Sultan.
I think in the era of Turhan Sultan was more peaceful, there was no cruelty and murder to fight for the throne .. That why Turhan is better known as a kind sultanah .. The meaning of Turhan is Mercy, according to her character and personality.
@@MOHAMMED7252 One feature I love about Turhan Sultan. She knew the limits of her power and she easily handed over her power to the more knowledgeable (Grand Vizier Koprulu Mehmed Pasha) for the sake of government and selflessness. Maybe that's why pasha - pasha started supporting her as opposed to kosem sultan who started crazy power
Kosem may had become power hungry at the end. It's because Ibrahim is not fit to rule. She ruled the Empire the longest than any Sultanas. She went through so much when her husband died. She had the balls of a Sultan. Smart intelligent. Turban Sultan was groomed by Kosem but she can't wait for her turn. She snaked Kosem. Kosem may had many flaws but she also had many good qualities & was loved by her people especially during her younger days. Over all my salute to Kosem she ruled for over 40 years one of the powerful woman ruler of her time & to this present time of the world. Kudos Kosem.
@@aymanafridi561ottoman started losing after the sultanate of women's started there was Hardly a conquest after Suleiman reign everything was under viziers and women control ... Male members were there only to sit at throne while before Suleiman era there was no women involvement in state affairs and men ruled and proved themselves, and fulfilled the purpose of establishment of ottoman empire... And they had to kill Ibrahim.. he was the worst sultan ever , he was cruel and mad ... He literally ruined the empire... They had to dethrone him so they did .
Kosem tried to kill her grandson mehmed and tried to put Suleiman at throne because she couldn't rule over turhan , so turhan instead of killing innocent children killed kosem to protect the dynasty from her greed . She did everything according to law .. like proper fatwa and made Mehmet to approve that .
What’s even more heartbreaking in kosem’s case is that in spite of turning into a power hungry tyrant towards the end, you can still see little moments here and there of her old self trying to come out. The version of herself that was humane and loved her children as more than just a means to more power. But that version never manages to ever fully take over anymore, and she always reverts back to her stoic, heartless power hungry self. Truly amazing acting 👏🏻 👏🏻
She was always innocent she never losed power she gotr killed. Thats something else but even dying she died powerful. As a grandmother regent moazzama quueen
I don't understand why people hate Turhan when Safiye was way worst, and nobody talks about her. Turhan killed Kosem to protect her son and herself, from Kosem's tirant personality
Turhan reminds me a lot of younger Kösem, in the time after Ahmed died, where she was fighting to survive. She couldn't stop until she was the last one standing. The others wouldn't stop, so she couldn't stop. If Kösem could just have stepped a little bit back and even only partially retired, I think Turhan would've been content, but trying to kill Mehmet was going too far.
Mehmet was a good, stable, healthy boy. She never should have decided to assassinate him. I was sad to see the way this was scripted. It was hard to have any respect for her being this way. Then executing Lalezar for only doing right, and Haji Agha just going along with it, I had no more respect for either of them and wanted Turhan to win. However, I have enormous respect for all the actors! They made me care this much! 🤩
Ouch kosem has turned into a monster overpowered by her hunger and greed to be forever the ruler.OMG she no longer a wise & intelligent sultana. She put the Empire in danger and danger to herself. So sad 😪 .
@@mihrimahsultan5025 why ? But before you answer think and give proper reasons ! Because she was not better or worse of any previous Sultanas,they are all the same, ALL !
Damn why was she so hungry of power she should just give up the power to the sultan murad and she would live a magnificent live even without being a regent
Sesungguhny aku mncintai Nabi Muhammad, melebihi cintaku pd ibu kandungku yg sdh melahirkanku. Itulah alasnku setiap Hari u bnyk2 membaca Shalawat Fatih pd beliau. Sbg bukti bhwa aku mncintai beliau. Aku jg sngt yakin bhwa Shalawat Fatih yg stiap hri aku baca akn mmbuatku menang d akhirat, dlm aarti slh Stu mnfaatny= ( mmpermudah hisabku), ktk mnusia2 lain msh dihisab, aku bs tnang2 & CPT diloloskn, dn msh bnyk keistimewaan lain. Irwan
Seriously? How can people still like Kosem after she killed her own son and was prepared to kill her own grandson for power? She could have destroyed the House of Osman in the series!
@@kytyoy5694 there is that and then there are people who will say that whatever was written in her biography was just a rumor and we can't know for sure... they just don't want to believe she could do anything like that
Kosem woudunt give her a power.And she didint give her she didint even let her rule the harem and she wasent evil like in this show she is not responsible for kosem death everyone wanted her death
Actually, Kosem had the backing of the Janissaries but not the people. They were powerful but extremely corrupt and Kosem's end was coming for her. The people who killed her used Turhan's name as a way to gain support because she had the highest chance to be the next Valide Sultan.
@@kytyoy5694 Yes also kosem was rude towords pashas and statments.When mehmed become sultan they wanted kosem to be his and turhan regent becuse turhan was young she was 20-25 when she become valide sultan.She always humiliated her she didint even let her rule the harem.
One thing that a bit annoying. In the history, the servant who told about Kosem Sultanah planing to poisoning Turhan son is Meleki Hatun. Not Lalezar or Melek Hatun (the babysitter of Farya /maddam Magdalena).
Kosem sultan did justice even if her own kids would do wrong they will be punished , She was saving the state from wrong decision of her kids who were under control of the enemies .
@@a.k.g4901 Woman killed another woman. Turhan killed her as valid Sultan. Kosem was valida when her sons were sultans. She killed her sons on what authority? Sultan was higher in office than valida Sultan
@@crescentwarriors2503 it wasn't Kosem who killed the sultans , Turhan sent orders by her young Sultan to kill her father Sultan Ibrahim ,who was the king at that time , now you would know who was the murderer , not kosem but Turhan .
When you make a slave as a reign power..this happens...... Giving power to real princes was good idea till Prince becomes 18 old age enough..as Princes have right not these slaves
Maybe someone will use this as political tool , some muslim are agaisnt women ruler, they thought it's forbidden because of a hadith that said sassanian empire will fall because Khousrou was replaced by his daugther burandokht , this can be "prove" to disprove women candidste in the muslim country
Omg 😮😮😮 this muslim but act like others, kill each other for survife , power Etc... But God bless islam religion by respec , love and care not killing each other That way ottoman manpower ceaos ... Disaster And dont put women on power
The way she defended her stepchildren and did not agree with her advisors to execute them just to secure her son's position on the throne, increased the respect for her by several folds.The best part was she did not act as Kosem Sultan might have expected of her. Kosem Sultan indeed did turn to be power thirsty and evil towards the end of her reign.
Effective💪 zee
24:03 Well, in real life Turhan sultan proved her words. She even protected her stepchildren.
'As long as I live, no prince shall be killed'
Turhan also want power like kosem but at the same time she also protects the princes
That is indeed what made her rule as Valide Sultan different from Kosem Sultan.After the power struggle she withdrew herself from the state affairs.She handed over most of her powers to the new Grand Vizier Koprulu Mehmed Pasha after a period of weak Grand Viziers as she realized that she was not too experienced to handle the complex state affairs. I think this indeed was her best move and saved her from meeting the same fate as Kosem Sultan.
Also the way she spared her stepchildren even though she doubted for a while if she had taken the right decision.
I think in the era of Turhan Sultan was more peaceful, there was no cruelty and murder to fight for the throne .. That why Turhan is better known as a kind sultanah .. The meaning of Turhan is Mercy, according to her character and personality.
@@MOHAMMED7252 One feature I love about Turhan Sultan. She knew the limits of her power and she easily handed over her power to the more knowledgeable (Grand Vizier Koprulu Mehmed Pasha) for the sake of government and selflessness. Maybe that's why pasha - pasha started supporting her as opposed to kosem sultan who started crazy power
Except that she killed Zarife's child
Kösem’s actress is amazing. She gives me chills.
She is.
Kosem should have stepped down. She was in love with power. She might have been able to work with Turhan as an advisor but she had her time.
Kosem may had become power hungry at the end. It's because Ibrahim is not fit to rule. She ruled the Empire the longest than any Sultanas. She went through so much when her husband died. She had the balls of a Sultan. Smart intelligent. Turban Sultan was groomed by Kosem but she can't wait for her turn. She snaked Kosem. Kosem may had many flaws but she also had many good qualities & was loved by her people especially during her younger days. Over all my salute to Kosem she ruled for over 40 years one of the powerful woman ruler of her time & to this present time of the world. Kudos Kosem.
During her reign ottomans lost lots of their land..A MOTHER KILLS HER OWN SON TO STAY IN POWER.
Uum its TurHan not Turban 🙄
Kudos?
@@aymanafridi561ottoman started losing after the sultanate of women's started there was Hardly a conquest after Suleiman reign everything was under viziers and women control ... Male members were there only to sit at throne while before Suleiman era there was no women involvement in state affairs and men ruled and proved themselves, and fulfilled the purpose of establishment of ottoman empire... And they had to kill Ibrahim.. he was the worst sultan ever , he was cruel and mad ... He literally ruined the empire... They had to dethrone him so they did .
Kosem tried to kill her grandson mehmed and tried to put Suleiman at throne because she couldn't rule over turhan , so turhan instead of killing innocent children killed kosem to protect the dynasty from her greed . She did everything according to law .. like proper fatwa and made Mehmet to approve that .
What’s even more heartbreaking in kosem’s case is that in spite of turning into a power hungry tyrant towards the end, you can still see little moments here and there of her old self trying to come out. The version of herself that was humane and loved her children as more than just a means to more power. But that version never manages to ever fully take over anymore, and she always reverts back to her stoic, heartless power hungry self.
Truly amazing acting 👏🏻 👏🏻
She was always innocent she never losed power she gotr killed. Thats something else but even dying she died powerful. As a grandmother regent moazzama quueen
I don't understand why people hate Turhan when Safiye was way worst, and nobody talks about her. Turhan killed Kosem to protect her son and herself, from Kosem's tirant personality
Turhan reminds me a lot of younger Kösem, in the time after Ahmed died, where she was fighting to survive. She couldn't stop until she was the last one standing. The others wouldn't stop, so she couldn't stop. If Kösem could just have stepped a little bit back and even only partially retired, I think Turhan would've been content, but trying to kill Mehmet was going too far.
Mehmed I would have the longest reign second only to Süleyman the Magnificent.
@@richfolkesIt's mehmet 3 not 1
What? Everyone hates Safiye, ofc u won’t see ppl talk bout her now cuz she’s been long gone from the series
@@unknown_8588 The amount of hate comments towards Safiye, is only a small amount compared to the ones I've seen towards Turhan.
Kosem pushed her luck one too many times. It caught up with her
at the end.
Mehmet was a good, stable, healthy boy. She never should have decided to assassinate him. I was sad to see the way this was scripted. It was hard to have any respect for her being this way. Then executing Lalezar for only doing right, and Haji Agha just going along with it, I had no more respect for either of them and wanted Turhan to win. However, I have enormous respect for all the actors! They made me care this much! 🤩
@weaviejeebies The actors/actresses were superb! No doubt about that!
Ouch kosem has turned into a monster overpowered by her hunger and greed to be forever the ruler.OMG she no longer a wise & intelligent sultana. She put the Empire in danger and danger to herself. So sad 😪 .
This is like handan sultan and safiye sultann when ahmed , be a sultan😂😂
But unlike safiye and handan kosem lost and turhan won
@@pennywenny5871kosem never lost she is a queen she conquered hearts May Allah give her Jannat
24:10 and this is the moment I turned turhan's fan
I love Turhan. She's wise, kind, beautiful and merciful.
She was a coward, she attack behind back. But at the end it was fight for throne, Kosem did same with Safiye, Safiye with Nurbanu...
@@dimael657 How could she attack openly and hope to win? She was kind to other women's children, who cold've jeopardized her own safety in the future
@@p34rl20 she was kind ?!? Hahaha com on
I hate her.
@@mihrimahsultan5025 why ? But before you answer think and give proper reasons ! Because she was not better or worse of any previous Sultanas,they are all the same, ALL !
Turhan would’ve been so much more if she had learned something from one of the most powerful sultana which is kosem.
Everyone says that kosem was hungry for power but Infact turhan was also equally power hungry
Damn why was she so hungry of power she should just give up the power to the sultan murad and she would live a magnificent live even without being a regent
Sesungguhny aku mncintai Nabi Muhammad, melebihi cintaku pd ibu kandungku yg sdh melahirkanku. Itulah alasnku setiap Hari u bnyk2 membaca Shalawat Fatih pd beliau. Sbg bukti bhwa aku mncintai beliau. Aku jg sngt yakin bhwa Shalawat Fatih yg stiap hri aku baca akn mmbuatku menang d akhirat, dlm aarti slh Stu mnfaatny= ( mmpermudah hisabku), ktk mnusia2 lain msh dihisab, aku bs tnang2 & CPT diloloskn, dn msh bnyk keistimewaan lain. Irwan
After hurrem, turhan is my second favourite Sultana
*Hurrem was blood thirsty and power hungry more than Turhaan Sultan. Hurrem killed many innocent people*
Too bad Turhan couldn't save Lalezar.
Seriously? How can people still like Kosem after she killed her own son and was prepared to kill her own grandson for power? She could have destroyed the House of Osman in the series!
I don't understand that either but that's power of tv for you...
@@wiezyczkowata Personally I think it's only because of the the first and second Kosem in the series and because she's the main character.
Right
@@kytyoy5694 there is that and then there are people who will say that whatever was written in her biography was just a rumor and we can't know for sure... they just don't want to believe she could do anything like that
@@wiezyczkowata It's truly a shame that some people take fictionalized media of history for the truth.
Turhan wanted power, but did not know what to do with it. If Turhan waited and learned from Kosem in real life Kosem would have given her the power.
Bitter but truth 😅
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Kosem woudunt give her a power.And she didint give her she didint even let her rule the harem and she wasent evil like in this show she is not responsible for kosem death everyone wanted her death
Actually, Kosem had the backing of the Janissaries but not the people. They were powerful but extremely corrupt and Kosem's end was coming for her. The people who killed her used Turhan's name as a way to gain support because she had the highest chance to be the next Valide Sultan.
@@kytyoy5694 Yes also kosem was rude towords pashas and statments.When mehmed become sultan they wanted kosem to be his and turhan regent becuse turhan was young she was 20-25 when she become valide sultan.She always humiliated her she didint even let her rule the harem.
Kosem: Mehmed, go back to your chambers.
Mehmed: But I haven't declared my decision yet grandma...
Kosem: death stare👀 11:07
Mehmed: erm..as you wish.
One thing that a bit annoying. In the history, the servant who told about Kosem Sultanah planing to poisoning Turhan son is Meleki Hatun. Not Lalezar or Melek Hatun (the babysitter of Farya /maddam Magdalena).
24:04 Turhan is the best Ottoman Haseki Sultana
Hurrem
I wish Murad lived long enough to team up with Turhan when I see this bad side of Kösem 😜
You are late dear
Better luck next time
My Bad Luck Dear 😕
Yeah they would have made a good match
Haha Turhan aka Nadya was too late to appear before sultan murad, all of murad wives are useless
The Last Battle of two powerfull sultans
Kosem sultan did justice even if her own kids would do wrong they will be punished , She was saving the state from wrong decision of her kids who were under control of the enemies .
Hahaha justice 🥵 she had no legal authority she was ruthless dictator like yazid
@@crescentwarriors2503 so will you please increase in my knowledge what kind of authority Turban sultan to kill her??? As she was also after power
@@a.k.g4901 Woman killed another woman. Turhan killed her as valid Sultan. Kosem was valida when her sons were sultans. She killed her sons on what authority? Sultan was higher in office than valida Sultan
@@crescentwarriors2503 it wasn't Kosem who killed the sultans , Turhan sent orders by her young Sultan to kill her father Sultan Ibrahim ,who was the king at that time , now you would know who was the murderer , not kosem but Turhan .
@@a.k.g4901 I read it was kosem
*1:40**: Why Kosem believes her? Nobody will want Ibrahim, the mad as padisah if a rebelion is happening.*
Please correct the title, Turhan is a lady and should be addressed as "her"
It is the universal permanent problem of Turkish series subtitles they never change
Shouldn't she say 5 sultans - starting with Ahmed I - Mustafa I Osman II Murad IV Ibrahim?
I love the unuch they played big role
What other Turkish series is the actress of the role of Turhan in?
When you make a slave as a reign power..this happens...... Giving power to real princes was good idea till Prince becomes 18 old age enough..as Princes have right not these slaves
Malek was the little girl who served kosem
why other sultana of Ibrahim seems like no maid no agha supporting. Its not fair only Turhan got them
Mehmet and turhan worked together
Can anyone tell me what happened to atike sultana ??
Why is suleiman agha is not respecting other sultans (Dilashup,Muassezz,Haseki humasha sultan)
Who wins the battle at the end kosem or turhan ??
Kosem is responsible for ending ending of ottoman empire
Go open history❤
And thats how ottomans came to their sour unglorious end..😹state wellbeing and prosperity was the last they actually cared about...😹😄
The Ottomans were garbage 🗑 anyway
Lalezar did the right thing!
I am sad kosem got a new actress.
Never under estimate your doughter in laws even if your the qweens
I think she was not happy person. It seems to me she was a bitter woman.
what is the real name of sultan mehmed here?
Muhammad the fourth
Oh do you mean the actor? 😃 idk
Maybe someone will use this as political tool , some muslim are agaisnt women ruler, they thought it's forbidden because of a hadith that said sassanian empire will fall because Khousrou was replaced by his daugther burandokht , this can be "prove" to disprove women candidste in the muslim country
Thats why womans ar regents second inn command
Most hadiths are made up stories, Kuran should be the base not made up stories.
Sahih hadith is not supposed to contradict reality. Women have been great rulers: Elizabeth, Catherine, Kosem, etc.
Bloody Turhan, she betrayed Kösem
Kosem tried to kill her son,
@@wiezyczkowata focus circus is to doomb to understand
@@safiye3040 yep
@@wiezyczkowata tbh, ppl like him seem to waste air
Yeah, Turhan is an unfaithful treacherous woman... She betrayed me
no kosem there osman would be alive
We all these royal graves are totally bad as they all did bad with others.shame to her
Modem kai Sahar Bohat acha Hua hai
I'm Too Beautiful 😍
We know 💖
@@juttsk3065 😉
I know we all know too😏
@@nozelsilva7122 not much
@@munirlatif1126 Shut Up Kösem Sultan's Paşa 😂
Why HIS? Turhan is a woman it has to be HER in the title
It’s translated from another language so it autocorrects what it thinks the English word is. It’s not on purpose it happens with a lot of shows
Kosem is worst among all the ladies.. badly to be in power
I hate Turhan Sultan, Valide Kosem Sultan is better.
There shouldn't be a competition between me and her 😑😑
@Mohammed Rizwan Coz Legends Never Die 😂
@@nozelsilva7122 😂😂 true
I agree
@@nozelsilva7122 Turhan what are you doing here.
Return to the harem immediately 😤
Omg 😮😮😮 this muslim but act like others, kill each other for survife , power Etc...
But God bless islam religion by respec , love and care not killing each other
That way ottoman manpower ceaos ... Disaster
And dont put women on power
Turhan is very bad person I know 😢😢😢
and kosem is a good person you doomb dog?
@@safiye3040 don't be to harsh dear
@@munirlatif1126 :)), ppl with such a mentality like cartoon TV dont deserve politeness and manners
@@safiye3040 I think you are too much old??
Atleast i Didn't Poisoned My Son Or Grandsons
Turhan Sultan Attacks With All "HER" Might! Learn how to spell!
Kosem is a Killer... No one like this...she killed halima,safia,mostofa,dilruba,Ibrahim, murad,etc.etc.etc.
..... now go open history
Go read history bro.
Ain’t no way your defending halime and dilurba 😂😂