External Word Clock Set Up Demo Recording Quality Comparison

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    2:00 - OVERVIEW, Black Lion Audio Micro Clock XB
    5:24 - CONNECTING DEVICES & CLOCK
    10:03 - UA 4-710d Sample Rate Lock (close-up)
    10:25 - Setting up the Zen Studio Control Software to accept WC
    13:22 - SAMPLE #1, clock OFF
    14:24 - SAMPLE #2, clock ON
    17:18 - Lansky's opinion (for what it's worth.....)
    The title says it all! Lansky explains the nature of time & why some humans care while others do not as well as how to set up an external word clock generator with an interface & outboard preamp/A/D converter.
    Devices demonstrated include the Antelope Audio Zen Studio interface & Universal Audio 4-710d preamp.
    The featured word clock generator is the Black Lion Audio Micro Clock Mk III XB: blacklionaudio.com/product/mi...
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    / lanskysound
    Here is some email correspondence with the clock's designer, Jesus:
    On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:14 AM, A. Lansky adam.lansky@hotmail.com wrote:
    Howdy Sid,
    Thanks for the quick/detailed answers. I'm trying to wrap my head around how a clock's technical specs relate to perceived quality to better understand the differences I am hearing. For example, the Antelope Zen Studio's clock has the following specs:
    Clocking Stability
    less than +/-0.02 ppm, oven controlled at 64.5 C/ 148.1 F
    Clock Aging
    less than 1 ppm per year
    Clock Calibration
    less than +/-0.001 ppm
    Compared with the XB's 25ppm, strictly as a matter of what's "on paper", Antelope's clock has tighter tolerances. I know the BLA team is well aware of this data having worked extensively with the Zen. Are you able to explain how a clock with a lower resolution is able to outperform what is a statistically superior device? This is not to pass judgement as to which device I think sounds better, just want to understand the science of things as I continue my testing.
    Thanks!
    -- A. LAИSKY
    From: Black Lion Audio
    Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 12:01 PM
    To: A. Lansky
    Subject: Re: Invoice from Black Lion Audio
    Hey Adam, while I could handle the other questions, I had to refer to our clock's designer to answer this one for you... my brain's just way too small!
    In response to your last question, this is what he stated:
    "While he's right that the specs on paper are better, understanding those specs is important. The .02ppm basically explains how close the clock is to the stated frequency. That's more of a long term reading. That's the basis of many companies' claim that you'll only be off by so many millihertz every so many weeks. While that's definitely an important stat, there's a few things to keep in mind:
    For one, if your whole system is running off the same clock, then the importance of that spec is somewhat diminished because they are all still synced together. The variations in the master are reflected across all the units.
    Another thing to bear in mind is that many of the stats are long term averages that show how a clock performs in a system. At .02ppm we're referring to a minor fraction of a fraction of a percent as compared to a mere minor fraction of a percent. One of the important things that we try to emphasize in our clocking systems is more the short term performance. We need to remember that when converters are involved, short term jitter becomes very important. Phase noise is the random variations in clock pulses that are often times disregarded because they technically have no affect on the overall long term timing. They won't affect that ppm spec on the datasheet. The issue is that with converters, every clock pulse counts. That pulse acts as a map that tells an ADC system when to take a sample and a DAC system where to place the sample during reproduction. When the ADC system has a different map than the DAC system then that sample will be placed in the wrong spot (even if by a slight amount) which then manifests itself as distortion in the audio band. That is to say, if the ADC recording sample is taken when the clock is say, 200 picoseconds off but the DAC's playback of that same sample is only 20 picoseconds off, then that sample may be placed in the wrong spot during playback. Many folks say it's inaudible, but we don't agree. We feel that this emphasis is why our clock has such an effect on the audio quality. While clock accuracy is important to us, we've always been people to look beyond the spec sheet, instead of just seeing what everyone else posts and then trying to beat it.
    I hope this makes sense."
    Like he said, I hope this makes sense, Adam!
    -- Sid
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  • @NickPalmisano
    @NickPalmisano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I came here to learn about external clocks, left with an existential crisis

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahahaha that happens with me sometimes ;)
      thanks for watching!

  • @blacklionaudio5271
    @blacklionaudio5271 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Adam, this is a great video! Loved it! Thanks so much, man!
    --Sid

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Sid! Can't wait to use the XB on more projects soon ;D

  • @kingfree473
    @kingfree473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard the same difference, and heard it immediately too! Loved your vid too so thx and keep up!

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im truly a novice and found your information both entertaining and informational. Thanks so much. I’ll keep watching.

  • @singinwhatimdoin
    @singinwhatimdoin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did not expect to find this level of comedy in a video about word clocks. Clearly, I was a fool. This is “The Art of Mixing” all over again...

  • @troycopeland5156
    @troycopeland5156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big difference I'm getting a clock asap I never knew what external clock actually did until now thanks great video A+ in explaining and detail

  • @bandsonline
    @bandsonline 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. If I can get my own gear synced as easy as you made it look then I will be a very happy person!

  • @FAMEAcademyNY
    @FAMEAcademyNY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most Awesome Video Dude! I've been a recording engineer for over 20 years and a live sound engineer for the past 5 years and NEVER even considered using word clock. I've always seen the BNC on the backs of equipment and thought you only need it for video. and now i do video and never needed it... So I dismissed it... Until a few weeks ago someone told me the YAMAHA LS9 was a great mixer but sucks without an external word clock... I was like wow! That led me to investigate witch in turn led me to your video.... I listened to your recordings and when the timpani cam in on the second pass I was like WAIT? WHAT? I didn't even notice them on the first pass... I went back and listened to both passes again and YES there was a significant difference in the warmth of the low end.. The timpani stood out. The Cellos and Bass were much more present in the mix.... DAMNIT! Something else I need to buy.....
    P.S. This was by fay the best explanation and example I've see so far. Thanks!

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah so my reply is REALLY late to the game here but I'm happy this was helpful! I actually got into this clock because someone randomly asked my advice on if it was important. I had no idea so I tested it & ended up spending $1000 on the clock featured in this video lol

  • @yngvae2
    @yngvae2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your vids are all so far out. i love it! hex pattern shirt. perfect!

  • @user-my9dp2ny3l
    @user-my9dp2ny3l 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man.. straight to the point with bit humor !!! Thank you !!!

  • @mb9ether
    @mb9ether 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video .....interesting way to deliver very interesting info ....nice bit of humour , keep up the good work bro

  • @incredible916
    @incredible916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Very simple and informative. Very funny, and makes you want to learn more about gear. Do you have any videos on Basic Midi setups?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! I'm glad you liked it. Thank you very much for the nice comments ;D
      Unfortunately, I do not have any MIDI setup videos at this time because I don't work with it. If you come across a good one, reply to this comment with a link! It would be cool to watch.
      Stay tuned! ✌ ☮

  • @alextrust9716
    @alextrust9716 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Adam!If i connect this clock thru spdif to my Zen Tour,do i have the same sound that when it conected thru BNC?

  • @MichaelHBuur
    @MichaelHBuur 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved that intro :-D I found the internal clocked first take to be more bright and alive. Second take sounded perhaps more smooth but lacked clarity. Very hard to judge with two different takes though.
    It would have been interesting to hear the Zen Studios AFC controlling the UA 4-710d.

  • @timperry2375
    @timperry2375 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid. Could you do a test between the micro clock mkiii xb vs the apogee big ben? Thanks

  • @lengwxiong0082
    @lengwxiong0082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My audio interface does not have any jacks for clock cables (spdif,
    adat, etc). I have a basic UMC404HD by Behringer. How would I
    incorporate a word clock device to my Behringer? I ask this question
    because I plan to purchase dedicated mic preamps in the future so I have
    more varieties of preamps. So, in my case, do I need a master clock
    device? I shall wait for your response. Thanks in advance.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Leng, thanks for watching! I looked at the Behringer interface you have & there is no way to hook up an external word clock device. While external preamps will be really cool & absolutely provide an increase in quality over the Behringer pres in your UMC404HD, my recommendation would be to invest in a better interface first. The quality of A/D & D/A conversion will improve your overall production value.

  • @eugenemichael9833
    @eugenemichael9833 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    much appreciated this video is great

  • @ampulsetonstudio1410
    @ampulsetonstudio1410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for the Video and Information.Pretty useful and eye-opnening for me, cause i have the same setup going!I stumbled by accident on your video. :)

  • @zillaclout
    @zillaclout 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good (and funny) video! Appreciate your summary....im in the market and this really helped out alot. Thanks!

  • @xXxAmadeuzxXx
    @xXxAmadeuzxXx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow bro. Great video. I can hear the difference. Clock off sounded congested.

  • @andreitimotin3599
    @andreitimotin3599 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clocking..it's the taboo subject for me. I have a question and would be lovely if you can be gentle enough to answer it ar at least give me your opinion on that . I have only one audio interface (Orion 32+) which I use to control some outboard gear like compressors, eq's, reverbs and a tube summing box, from time to time i record a guitar through a Isa One Focusrite preamp. My question is : considering that the Orion has its own very good clock which can be the master for my setup , does it make sense to have an external clock ? Thx

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Andrei, it sounds like you have a really nice setup! What I would say to anyone in your position is that a high-quality clock like the BLA XB will improve the quality of all aspects of production including tracking quality, playback quality while mixing, & bounce quality. Any interface I use while connected to the XB is operating at its absolute maximum potential & the difference is noticeable. Anytime I travel for work, the XB comes with me & the project is better as a result.
      After owning the XB for over a year, it's hard to imagine working without it :)

  • @xXxAmadeuzxXx
    @xXxAmadeuzxXx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. One of the best videos about word clock.
    I have a quick question. I bought a black lion audio sparrow mk2 Analog to digital converter. It has a built in word clock.
    So I just need to hook up the bnc coming from the bla sparrow to my fireface 802 word clock in?
    Also it has a button on the back of the fireface that say 75ohm terminated. Do i have to press that button? Thank you bro!!!!

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo AMADEUZ,
      It sounds like you've got it right. How has this system been working for you? It would be really cool to hear how you like that sparrow!

  • @hermanaziz9313
    @hermanaziz9313 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can i use the external for stabellise my mixer world clock?

  • @robertsimpson5801
    @robertsimpson5801 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Great video! I have a question for you. Do you know anything about the Digidesign SYNC word clock? I was able to acquire one for a very good price, but I have no idea about how good or bad he quality of the clocking is. Do you have any thoughts on it?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I am not familiar with this device. Anytime I'm buying gear, something I think about is the cost of the device compared to what I expect. An example might be if I own a new $1000 interface, I would want to use a clock that is also recent technology in a similar caliber of production, (i.e., probably not Behringer).
      I wish I could provide a more specific answer! I hope this helps

  • @juelezg
    @juelezg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just started looking into this as i am setting up a studio midii and audio based and i a wondering wether to have a designated word clock hardware any advice would be grately appreciated, thanks for the video

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Juelez, thanks for watching. If you are running a production space with multiple A/D converters & outboard digital gear, all devices must clock from somewhere. The quality of the clock determines the accuracy of the sampling & ultimately clarity in your signal. Depending on your goals & where you are along the career path, it might not necessary to have a super-high grade device like the Black Lion Audio Mk III XB, but you will likely benefit from having a dedicated clock rather than syncing to your primary interface. As always, you get what you pay for!
      Good luck :)

  • @metalfather8139
    @metalfather8139 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous capture absolutely beautiful. And im a metal musician.

  • @hironanase20122012
    @hironanase20122012 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If setting the antelope as a master clock, is the result better? Antelope also got a really good clock.

  • @RKBibleStudy
    @RKBibleStudy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I have an aggregate device on my mac, comprising an Apollo Twin, a Persons Fire Project, and some outboard preamps.
    I'm looking into the word clock thing. BTW beautiful recording.

  • @andyrachelgraham9755
    @andyrachelgraham9755 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adam, I'm trying to use a Zen Studio w/the BLA micro clock into logic, but it seems like logic is overriding the word clock and controlling the sample rate, any advice?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! I am so sorry I just NOW saw this question D:
      It sounds like you need to adjust the sample rate within Logic, and then the XB, and then make sure the Zen Studio is looking to external clock via the Zen Studio Launcher software control. I hope you solved the issue by now!!

  • @AgustinCaniglia1992
    @AgustinCaniglia1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect. Thanks!

  • @marctrainor5595
    @marctrainor5595 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done video. Lot's of fun but lots of good serious stuff too. I just ordered the Black Lion micro mkIII, used but in good condition. I do think I heard a difference here in your comparison. It seems "more in your face", more in the forefront with the Black Lion on. I know the MKIII is a step lower than the MKIII xb, but I hope it gives me some of what you have in the XB. I'm running 3 interfaces and two Cymatic Utrack 24's, so the six outputs on the Black Lion should do the trick. One reason I decided to watch your program here is to see if you terminated each unit, and it looks like you did. The only thing that worries me a little is that you doubled up on the one unit by using not only the 75 ohm plug, but the internal terminator as well. I've read from some pretty good sources online, I think, one of the might have been Sound on sound, that it can be detrimental to double up on the termination, however your recording sounded great, so I'm not sure if they're right on that. Ultimately, I hope that I'm right in assuming that we should somehow, internally or externally terminate each unit when using this clock because it's not set up in a "daisy chain" fashion. Let me know if I'm wrong on that. Great job on your end, and keep up the good work. Marc Trainor.

  • @ioannisandriotis7813
    @ioannisandriotis7813 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and nicely explained!
    I think the sonic difference between the two examples leaves no doubts about the clarity, depth, and stereo field when using a master clock. At least that is my opinion based on what I heard.
    Just curious if you have compared:
    1. The Black Lion hardware vs Antelope Audio Master Clock hardware
    2. How much of a difference would it make if you were using an interface like Goliath and utilize it as a "Master Clock" to connect a couple of other devices instead of having a dedicated Master Clock.
    Also, can you please explain the signal path / gain stage for the Royer SF12.
    Thanks in advance.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ioannis Andriotis Honestly, I have only tried the BLA Micro Clock XB & was sold. I have no doubt that Antelope makes an outstanding clock but I have not compared. There are some very interesting articles that assert different clocks will color a recording in different ways that are more or less pleasing to the ear!
      In terms of using an external clock for multiple devices rather than the internal clock of any given interface, I typically default to "you get what you pay for". In other words, let's say I have a $3000 interface & a $1200 clock. Considering the amount of other components in the interface, I highly doubt its internal clock accounts for 30% of the device's cost. Therefore, the external clock is more likely of higher quality than the interface's internal clock. While I admit this to be a generalization that might not always be accurate, it is my starting point for assessing these things.
      As for your SF-12 gain staging question, I set my gains the dame regardless of what microphone I am using. I will typically aim for -6dB to -3dB (digital) at the absolute loudest passage of whatever I am about to record. I like to use the Millennia HV-3D, Universal Audio 4-710, & the Universal Audio 2-610 on this mic. There is really no wrong setup for the SF-12 as it sounds lovely on any source. If I want some compression, my UA 4-710 has great compressors on each channel OR I use my Revive Audio modified ART PRO VLA II with Cinemag xformers. This is my best compressor & imparts a beautiful tone even if I don't press the signal from there I run straight into the Zen Studio. All Mogami interconnects, NO PATCHBAY.
      I hope this is helpful! Thank you for. your kind words :) Happy recording!

    • @ioannisandriotis7813
      @ioannisandriotis7813 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lansky Sound thanks for taking time to reply!

  • @TheBelse
    @TheBelse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wicked video...breaks my heart spending money on things that don't make a sound...this time it's needed...amazing piece of kit.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      King Belsey haha thank you very much!! After i spent a week with the XB it was difficult to mail it back. I bought one within like four weeks cause I knew what I was missing. I recently had the opportunity to sync a piece of gear via SPDIF! That was fun for a change...
      I like your pun, btw ;) stay tuned!

  • @drknubele
    @drknubele 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Lansky, From now, what is your thought after using the XB that long? Have you tried some other stuff?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not work without my XB. If I travel, it comes with me. Every session, whether it's a single stereo pair on a piano or twenty channels on a live tracking session, the XB is my source for time while tracking, mixing, or mastering. I believe this device has improved the clarity & robustness of everything produced since I started using it. No regrets :D
      There is a solid chance that most recording setups will benefit from an external clock, the Black Lion Micro Clock Mk 3 XB just happens to be mine! I hear the difference & I love it.
      Thanks for asking :)

  • @simcHyt
    @simcHyt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was always afraid of those angry looking BNCs on the backs of stuff. Not anymore, thank you for this kickass video!

  • @jamesflickinger1363
    @jamesflickinger1363 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can hear the difference too. Wow ! Wish I had $1,400.00 to spend on one. Thanks for the video. Very well done.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the vid. Yeah, those catz @ Black Lion are super-talented. Maybe try out one of their preamps sometime ;D

  • @harrysaini9412
    @harrysaini9412 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello sir am use rme ucx interface .u say best word clock advice professional sounds ?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, I am not certain what you're asking here. If you can be a little more specific, it might be possible to give you a solid answer. Thanks!

  • @matthewJ142
    @matthewJ142 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know Tascam makes a rack mount master clock. And I think it works 2x as good when you are dealing not only audio but also video editing because the timing is really important in syncing audio to video

  • @LP-tq1kx
    @LP-tq1kx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for very informative video. I am personaly hearing exactly what you are describing and that is the reason why i am looking around to buy my clock as well (BLA is candidate). I hear purely increasing details with clocked version, slightly brightness, but in sense that the AD just be able to capture the higher frequencies not forget them, the depth is better as well and what is for me the most important the music is for me more emotional due to combination of these aspects! What is still questionable is aging of these clocks, what i understood from Grimm papers (another great clocks - not 10M), 10M clock are better to keep their quality longer time. So what about clocks like Grimm, BLA? Are they going to be "off" in a year and should be replaced or what we can expect? For now yes the timing which leads to clearer image and recording is there, but for how long?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey sorry for the late reply! I'm assuming you already found your answers but just in case.....
      I talked to the rep at BLA when testing this unit & asked similar questions. Now, this was a few years ago but here's what I remember: All clocks slip. What is important is the metric used to measure how much slip happens, in particular the window of time that was measured in testing. So here's the funny part...
      When I was talking with BLA something I brought up was that the clock built into my Antelope interface had better numbers on paper than the Mk III XB. I asked, "Why is your clock better than this one? The test data shows Antelope's clock is statistically superior." The BLA rep explained that their testing took data over a longer sample of time than Antelope's. So it's like Antelope measured less slips but they measured over a shorter time window. And more importantly than any kind of testing -- the BLA clock just sounds better regardless of statistics.
      buying good gear is to produce something fundamentally better than what we have. So no matter how precise a standalone clock may or may not be, odds are it is improving recording quality!

    • @LP-tq1kx
      @LP-tq1kx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lansky Sound hello, i appreciate your answer even after the while and it is interesting, what i can say as i became satisfied owner of BLA mk3 xb in the meantime is that i fully agree that sometimes specs are saying nothing 😀 anyway i bought focusrite 2 Pre as my second recording converter and this converter benefits from BLA clocking without any doubt as well. So for me good investment and i can go for slightly cheaper converter and have decent quality after clocking.

  • @ActionThanos
    @ActionThanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg that little lavaliere is a cute prop!

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanos P haha, sharp eye! There was an issue with the lav channel that rendered it useless... So it sounds like I am in a massive cave but it's only my basement ;) Silly, huh?

    • @ActionThanos
      @ActionThanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I figured. And I was just funnin because that's happened to me before but hey, pretty good backup audio.

  • @patrickey5552
    @patrickey5552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In our testing recording acoustic piano in a critical environment the clock had a better stereo image, a clearer sound, and better defined bass. Also worth noting, different clocks have different effects on the sound. For example one clock created a brighter recording we didn't care for on our material. We were told that clock was popular for use with guitar based recordings and not acoustic based recordings. I think you would find the same if you tried different clocks on similar material. So it might be for a mobile or even studio rig you'd want a couple of clocks around. Crazy thought, so we just use the one we liked on our acoustic material and went with that. It does make a difference.

    • @timperry2375
      @timperry2375 ปีที่แล้ว

      What clocks did you test?

    • @downpatmusic
      @downpatmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timperry2375 it’s been a long time since our tests. But I recall it was an Ardvark clock against an Apogee Big Ben. I don’t think the Ardvark is around anymore. For acoustic piano the Ardvark resulted in a better bass and stereo image. Warmer. The Apogee was brighter and thinner sounding. I spoke to an engineer at Apogee at the time and he said their clock was better for rock, electric guitars etc…We also tested cable on our mic pres and Mogami Digital cable certainly resulted in a noticeable more transparent sound. Since these days, sound has taken a backseat for this level of attention. So I don’t fuss like I used too though the artists at the time and I certainly appreciated the effort and results.

    • @timperry2375
      @timperry2375 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. The big ben is a staple, and has been used in many of the metal albums I've liked iver the years. I'd be curious to see if it's still worth it up against the clocks from Black lion

  • @user-nj3mt9yx7o
    @user-nj3mt9yx7o 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    можно две карты подключить по word clock?

  • @sanchezproductions87
    @sanchezproductions87 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    BLA is partnered with sweetwater to help mod your interfaces and optimize them. Do you think that will be more efficient than the external clock?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black Lion Audio is AMAZING at what they do. In terms of their modifications to interfaces, I do not believe they adjust or replace any of the internal clocking units. They are typically improving op amps, capacitors, & connections within the hardware to improve the quality of signal path. How I would look at this is that it will result in an improvement to "sound texture" or timbre of the tracking quality.
      The external clocking has a different effect that I would compare to image focus & overall clarity. If you can afford to have BLA operate on your devices, I do suggest it, but the clocking issue is different than their mods.
      I hope this helps!

  • @freezerburn6454
    @freezerburn6454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe how well that word clock improved the recording. It will be 4 years since you made this video soon, did you get to hear any other word clocks out there? Did you find any more that impressed you?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey! Yeah the difference is remarkable. I just don't record or mix without the clock anymore because I can't deal with the difference haha.
      I actually didn't do any more research after testing the BLA Micro Clock Mk III XB -- I just bought this one & moved on with life! I am certain that different clocks produce different-sounding results but I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole. If you're thinking about buying one, the only advice I can give is to spend at least $400. My reasoning for this is that the cost & quality are always directly related & we need to buy a better clock than what we paid for with out interface. I hope that's helpful ;)

    • @freezerburn6454
      @freezerburn6454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdamLansky Yeah I'm really falling down the rabbit hole here. I've gone as far as looking at oven controlled clocks and even adding a 10Mhz Rubidium Atomic Clock as a reference to the oven controlled clock(only online, none in person) I mean it's staggering how many thousands of dollars one can spend on time. My application is just home hifi and replaying only on my audio interface which is a Burl B2 Bomber D/A. Since I'm not recording and syncing an A/D and D/A I just wonder how well it could work for just home playback, I understand you're syncing a number of devices for recording and playback. I'm on the journey if it's worth it for hifi playback.

  • @gorillachilla
    @gorillachilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good man top lad

  • @ragulchelladurai4952
    @ragulchelladurai4952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man god bless

  • @Japsem
    @Japsem 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah man I can Hear the difference. feel more depth and clear.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't record without it haha

  • @incredible916
    @incredible916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kept rewinding the cat hair part lol

  • @yngvae2
    @yngvae2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who was the choir and strings group? you always work with the best musicians!

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Booth that was the Choral Arts Ensemble! You can learn about them at www.PortlandsChoir.org. They're a fun group to work with :D

  • @mrmorpheus9707
    @mrmorpheus9707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im using my rosetta 200 to clock my apollo quad...thoughts?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, thanks for asking! The Apogee Rosetta 200 has some age to it being just over a decade old at this point. The UA Apollo series is still fairly hot off the press & it's my understanding that a lot has improved in terms of clocking during this time period. Apogee vs. UA is like Godzilla vs. Wu Tang so it's a really tough call (although Wu probably wins, really). My suggestion would be to repeat the test I performed in my video:
      1) Record identical source material with the clock & without the clock
      2) Bounce in REAL TIME with the clock & without the clock
      3) Critically listen with the clock & without the clock to different aspects of the recording like high freqs, mids, & lows
      This process will def take some effort but you'll have tangible results to compare. You'll at least find things you like about each or maybe even a clear winner. I wish it was possible to give a hard answer, but maybe this will help with a decision. I hope this helps!

    • @mrmorpheus9707
      @mrmorpheus9707 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      My point exactly!!!! If i have to critically listen, check under a microscope sort of speak...& Its not a def" major.." oh hell yea moment". Then. It doesnt matter!!!! Its not. NIGHT & DAY

    • @mrmorpheus9707
      @mrmorpheus9707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lansky Sound tho i do appreciate the reply...i just clocked it to rosetta to see if i hear a diff". &. i dont

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. Whatever works best is the way to go, so if there's no audible difference I guess the more simple setup is the route. You might hear differences at higher sample rates depending on what you test with, but this is also dependent on speakers, connection quality, etc..
      At the end of the day, the best setup is the one that inspires creativity & produces results! Rock on

  • @420wizdumb6
    @420wizdumb6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:23 was not expecting that! lmfao

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha yea gotta stay silly

  • @SydneyValette
    @SydneyValette 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why terminating the out bnc?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In lower-quality clocks, the electrical signal originating from the clock can actually reflect off the unterminated hardware back into the clock like a mirror. This can cause the clock to jitter!
      Black Lion Audio has assured me the Mk III XB would not have this problem, but why take chances? ;)

  • @St99785
    @St99785 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hm, strange that I didn’t notice a huge difference, and i’m listening on all high end gear. I guess it’s true as they say YMMV. Still, i’m interested in this piece. I have 3 digital devices, two (2) MOTU 16A’s connected by ethernet, and a digital effects box (the Yamaha SPX2000), usually connnected either analog or through AES/SPDIF, depending on how many input/outputs I need on my master clock 16A. Both interfaces have great ESS32 converters, but my understanding is that a good clock, or dedicated A to D converter should still make a difference that will be more than subtle.
    I guess the research shall continue. Outstanding video, by the way. Thank you.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're really interested in picking up one of the XB clocks, your best bet is to get in touch with BLA. The device is not cheap but the results are real. Talk to them about your production needs & maybe something can be arranged!

  • @demariotownsend1228
    @demariotownsend1228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro want was that thingy with all the tubes in it

  • @Hello-pl2qe
    @Hello-pl2qe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you going to make me spend more money? I use an rme 802 and though I've been really happy, at the time of purchase I was wanting an antelope but now after hearing your example with the designated clock, it brought everything to life.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry lol yeah the cool thing about the clock is you can take it anywhere you're recording & improve anything you touch. If I'm working in a friend's studio, I bring the clock & everything sounds better. Think of it as an item that will make you a more valuable engineer no matter where you go!
      This way, we can justify BUYING LITERALLY ANYTHING HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

  • @andrewortiz3416
    @andrewortiz3416 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My chain: I got this same clock with my Avalon 737 preamp plus my burl b2 bomber AD converter and my Apollo Twin Duo MKII. and I got my u47 telefunken mic. Im 24 feeling blessed and thankful to be able to afford this stuff with no hesitation. thank God for sure.

  • @MultiMurphy19
    @MultiMurphy19 ปีที่แล้ว

    With word-clock on much better separation and better dynamics.

  • @troycopeland5156
    @troycopeland5156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow major difference

  • @williammoore116
    @williammoore116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I am curious about time

  • @levitys123
    @levitys123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy Crap... I was not expecting that difference. It honestly sounds WAY better. way less muddy, Like you said it felt more real.... Why? I don't get it.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay so here's the secret:
      Imagine you're watching an old move that plays the frames at 24 per second. That means each second is divided into 24 parts as equally as possible & one individual frame is displayed for that duration of time... So what happens if the frames aren't perfectly timed? Some arrive slightly too soon or too late & the image is no longer smooth -- it will appear inconsistent & be visually distracting.
      It's the exact same thing with audio except there is a frame every 1/44,100 times a second or higher. These inconsistencies in timing produce micro phase shifts that cancel the dimensionality of sound. A good clock will be more consistent & produce more real-sounding audio!
      Wild huh? Sorry it took me a YEAR to explain. My clock has slipped like a LOT lol

  • @ohjayesimpson67
    @ohjayesimpson67 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HELP! I didn't wipe hair off my keyboard and now time is going backwards!!

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      time could have likely been going backwards this whole time & now you've fixed it.
      i don't think it's possible for us to know ;)

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You love grey don't you?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was some years ago & I'm now firmly in my LMFAO phase of dress ;)

  • @syncropain
    @syncropain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too much difference for my experience with good external clocks, aardvark, apogee, no way the stereo field is so much larger

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, umm I like how it works. I've been using this clock for a few years now & I can't stand how things sound without it. The diff is legit

  • @matiasss550
    @matiasss550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    then........ a world clock is?

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ::shrugs boldly::

  • @tortillaman2491
    @tortillaman2491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I turned this off when I heard "We're engineers." Some people think just because they have recording gear, they are big time producers now.

    • @225maine
      @225maine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you then?

    • @tortillaman2491
      @tortillaman2491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@225maine a little green man from outer space.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey so umm who said "We're engineers"? did I say that or someone else?

  • @williammoore116
    @williammoore116 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but i don't even own a cat

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      William Moore cats are readily available at most pet stores or can often be found roaming the streets in violent gangs. Tread lightly!

  • @TheLordcasio
    @TheLordcasio 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uhhhhhh...WHAT? You say you spoke to Antelope about clocking? Igor from Antelope started Antelope with doing clocking. Clocking comes more into play when you have multiple tracks running into a mixer. Matt Newport (who started Black Lion [moved on to Dzingoff]) who I used to go thrifting with, would also disagree with your assessment...as he designed the unit you used as the "control". Beyond ALL of that...it is "TH-cam"....no REAL results unless you have files to download. Every audio nerd knows, "no real judgement, until I get the OG files".
    Beyond that....I love what you are doing...keep at it. HUGS.

  • @tonythebrowne
    @tonythebrowne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn thing doesn't even tell time

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lollll definitely did NOT get what I paid for in that regard hehe

  • @ACIDGREENTECHNO
    @ACIDGREENTECHNO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahahaaha cable vooooodooooo fuck this shit..

  • @streetlogic
    @streetlogic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that money on gear but the room sound not so much sorry can't watch with all this room reflection.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The funny thing about a comment like this is that, while it might make you feel better about yourself to say something mean, it actually just makes you look bad.

  • @lengwxiong0082
    @lengwxiong0082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My audio interface does not have any jacks for clock cables (spdif,
    adat, etc). I have a basic UMC404HD by Behringer. How would I
    incorporate a word clock device to my Behringer? I ask this question
    because I plan to purchase dedicated mic preamps in the future so I have
    more varieties of preamps. So, in my case, do I need a master clock
    device? I shall wait for your response. Thanks in advance.

    • @AdamLansky
      @AdamLansky  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, uhh, sorry for the EXTREMELY late reply, but I haven't been checking this account. In your case, I would recommend investing in a better interface before getting involved with a clock. A Behringer might work but doesn't have good sound to it, nor does it have the appropriate connections you need to set up clocking. I wouldn't get anything less than a Focusrite 18i20 to start! Good luck friend