This is amazing! Gem grinding always burnt me out in the other two games, now I can just craft for fun! Should probably finish the main story for Ryza 2 real quick though lol
I maxed my skill tree off of red neutralizers. I just unlocked Patty as a character and I have around 500k gems lol. And a level 999 weapon (crem ore) for each character for where I am. With Atk +Spd ++ 99, Stats Charge ++ 99 and some other skill (that I like). Really enjoying this one
More or less what I did. I duped a whole bunch of Super Pure Water's to just shove into the red neutralizers during item rebuild. Kinda expensive on gems, and was only only getting 3000 SP, but it worked well enough. My red neutralizers ended up getting Super Purity, so I ended up using a pre item rebuild red neutralizer for gems (was originally using Medica Powder's for that).
I remembered I got stuck at the final boss in Ryza 1 and accidentally found your guide and flabbergasted about how little I knew. Then I played Ryza 2 and intentionally only go to your guide mid game because I want to try to figure things out myself for the first 10-20 hours. And now I just started playing Ryza 3 and about 45 minutes into the game, already opened your Ryza 3 playlist haha
It will NOT ALWAYS give you more gems. just did uni charm with ultra purity (ofc unlocked) super trait and its duplication cost is more than twice as high as reduction 900+ vs 2600+ edit: neutralizers however can be abused for a minor profit
Hi! Thanks for all the great guides you do for Ryza games! I was wondering if it it might be possible to make early game examples in these videos too. Sometimes it is hard to follow when you are using an end game example on day 2. I think it would be really helpful for people looking to these guides early on to include both. I know you said it can be done on any item but it isn’t the same as walking through like you did for the philosophers stone. ❤ Really appreciate your guides!
So I was trying this with Grass Beans. Sells for 450, costs 600 to dupe. Ultra Purity is on. Do you think there is a quality threshold or something? Because I whatever traits where available, quality is 107. I haven't unlocked rebuilding yet, was hoping to have infinite gems for SP farming. Thanks for your videos, they help immensely.
I tried this with an uni charm as well, maxed out quality and lvl, super trait ultra purity unlocked. reduces for 5460 and costs 16k to dupe so i think it might be limited to alchemy ingredients. Don't use equipment or accessories for this method i guess. Edit: So I created a maxed out Yellow Neutralizer with Ultra Purity. Dupes for 2064, Reduces for 3360. So its possible right out of the gate like you said. takes a little longer to max out gems but that fact is that its possible.
have you ever played any game before? specifically of the RPG genre and with multiple resource systems and calculations and whatnot, darn near every game in our past is breakable to some level of utter brokenness if exploited correctly. should really get into watching speedruns of games and you will notice immediately this is nothing new or any kind of outlier.
@@lenia272 This is something new they added, to a system that already existed in previous games. The first thing you think of is whether it can produce more gems than it costs to duplicate.
Simplification: Craft any item with the "Ultra Purity" supertrait in it and keep duplicating/using reduction on it. You will always get gems because Ultra Purity makes them reduce for more gems than it costs to duplicate. The rest of the video is basically just talking about everything you can do to increase the amount of gems you get from this process (using an item that naturally goes for a lot, at level 99, with 999 rarity, etc.).
Once the Ryza guides are uploaded i think im going check out RE4 and finish agarest and then ill be back to FF8 and grandia along with octopath traveler
@@Primalliquid92 thanks Primal! I’ll be checking you out for RE4, FF8, and Grandia. Looking forward to watching you get wrecked on RE4. Your channel should do very well on RE4 remake.
I started watching you ever since I played Ryza 1&2 and when Ryza 3 came out you just came and saved my life again. Amazing guides keep it up!
This is amazing! Gem grinding always burnt me out in the other two games, now I can just craft for fun! Should probably finish the main story for Ryza 2 real quick though lol
Go for it!
I maxed my skill tree off of red neutralizers. I just unlocked Patty as a character and I have around 500k gems lol. And a level 999 weapon (crem ore) for each character for where I am. With Atk +Spd ++ 99, Stats Charge ++ 99 and some other skill (that I like). Really enjoying this one
More or less what I did. I duped a whole bunch of Super Pure Water's to just shove into the red neutralizers during item rebuild. Kinda expensive on gems, and was only only getting 3000 SP, but it worked well enough.
My red neutralizers ended up getting Super Purity, so I ended up using a pre item rebuild red neutralizer for gems (was originally using Medica Powder's for that).
Thanks for the guide Primal! You're always the first stop when a new atelier game comes out!!
My pleasure!
I remembered I got stuck at the final boss in Ryza 1 and accidentally found your guide and flabbergasted about how little I knew. Then I played Ryza 2 and intentionally only go to your guide mid game because I want to try to figure things out myself for the first 10-20 hours. And now I just started playing Ryza 3 and about 45 minutes into the game, already opened your Ryza 3 playlist haha
It will NOT ALWAYS give you more gems. just did uni charm with ultra purity (ofc unlocked) super trait and its duplication cost is more than twice as high as reduction 900+ vs 2600+
edit: neutralizers however can be abused for a minor profit
Here we are. I said I wasn’t gonna get tips and tricks. Where did that get me, right back to you.
Hi! Thanks for all the great guides you do for Ryza games! I was wondering if it it might be possible to make early game examples in these videos too. Sometimes it is hard to follow when you are using an end game example on day 2. I think it would be really helpful for people looking to these guides early on to include both. I know you said it can be done on any item but it isn’t the same as walking through like you did for the philosophers stone. ❤ Really appreciate your guides!
its the exact same steps as the phil stone, just create any item even a red netrualizer with ultra purity, dupe it and sell it
So I was trying this with Grass Beans. Sells for 450, costs 600 to dupe. Ultra Purity is on. Do you think there is a quality threshold or something? Because I whatever traits where available, quality is 107. I haven't unlocked rebuilding yet, was hoping to have infinite gems for SP farming.
Thanks for your videos, they help immensely.
did you unlock the super trait node? 450 is way to low for something with ultra purity it seems like your super trait is locked
@@Primalliquid92 Super Trait was unlocked, yes. I did it with an alchemy ingredient now and it worked. Maybe this problem is specific to Grass Beans.
I tried this with an uni charm as well, maxed out quality and lvl, super trait ultra purity unlocked. reduces for 5460 and costs 16k to dupe so i think it might be limited to alchemy ingredients. Don't use equipment or accessories for this method i guess.
Edit: So I created a maxed out Yellow Neutralizer with Ultra Purity. Dupes for 2064, Reduces for 3360. So its possible right out of the gate like you said. takes a little longer to max out gems but that fact is that its possible.
I did this on a medical powder before the first boss of the game to max skill tree and gems lol. I will use your method once I get to that point lol
How are you mass selecting in gem reduction? Its a real pain selecting each one!
just hold X and press down
@@Primalliquid92 Thanks🙂 I bet a similar method existed in Ryza 2? If so, Oh! All those wasted hrs doing LOTS of clicks!!
Amazing guide, that simply Primal for you ^^
Hey, thanks!
Prima may i ask u, how can i find the dragon eyes
Im currently stuck to find where that item is? Btw good video
dragon bosses, use keys to respawn them
Did they....test this before release?
have you ever played any game before? specifically of the RPG genre and with multiple resource systems and calculations and whatnot, darn near every game in our past is breakable to some level of utter brokenness if exploited correctly. should really get into watching speedruns of games and you will notice immediately this is nothing new or any kind of outlier.
@@lenia272 This is something new they added, to a system that already existed in previous games. The first thing you think of is whether it can produce more gems than it costs to duplicate.
Where is ultra purity papillon?
primal do i need to farm the seed for this series to like ryza 1 and 2?
seeds are still the best for endgame stuff yea
I feel so stupid, because I still don't understand
Simplification:
Craft any item with the "Ultra Purity" supertrait in it and keep duplicating/using reduction on it. You will always get gems because Ultra Purity makes them reduce for more gems than it costs to duplicate.
The rest of the video is basically just talking about everything you can do to increase the amount of gems you get from this process (using an item that naturally goes for a lot, at level 99, with 999 rarity, etc.).
I can't get ultra purity to save my life...tried un maxed seeds, farming yellow gathering points, etc😅
The game is so blurry on PS
turn off "motion blur" in the graphics options..
@@leviathanx0815 I did. But it isn't matter they fix it with a patch
When you back to FF and that other game you were playing Primal?!
Once the Ryza guides are uploaded i think im going check out RE4 and finish agarest and then ill be back to FF8 and grandia along with octopath traveler
@@Primalliquid92 thanks Primal! I’ll be checking you out for RE4, FF8, and Grandia. Looking forward to watching you get wrecked on RE4. Your channel should do very well on RE4 remake.
I know gem farming is going to be waste of time so I just used cheat engine and maxed it out for 2 seconds lmao.
kinda pointless considering it takes 2 seconds to max out legit
@@Primalliquid92 it's pointless wasting time achieving the same result.