So I've played around a lot with ATC auto throttle control for landing and it works with full flaps. The trick is to trim on speed first for full flaps and then engage atc. The velocity vector drops significantly, which you should already be correcting by pulling the stick back. Once the vector indicator starts going up you have to catch it or you'll start climbing. Only minimal stick adjustments after this and you have to constantly adjust. After doing it couple times, I can say it works and is very helpful.
I'm just now exploring the ATC system....... as you said at 3:50 you have to restrain the urge to go hands-on throttle. I thought of Terrain-Following Radar in the F-111........ at night........ being the first pilot to engage the TFR and trust it, hands off. I've only recently come to learn the automatic carrier takeoff of the F-18....... touch those controls and SPLASH.......... !!!!!!! Thanks, doc!!! Great tutelage every time.
What in the fresh hell! I have been manually screwing with the throttle for several landings and chasing the E-Bracket everywhere. Now I want to check this out.
I don't know who needs to see this. but to bring up the control indicator on the bottom left of the screen, just press... (I forgot which one) LCTRL, or RCTLR and ENTER
Reading magazine and right hand on the stick... But any way nice video i have had problems with atc and landing, probably something to do with me landing full flaps.
it was not difficult from the beginning :D , just need a bit more practice (crashes) , at the end u wont heart by mistakes lol ! atc has delay for adjusting, not a good practice for carrier!
Quick thumb rules to break after landing: -Don't land too heavy, the heavier you are the longer runway you'll need. -Always land to the assinged runway number, this means you'll land on upwind, meaning against the wind -Increase AOA while idle throttle just before touch down without tail striking, this will stall the aircraft & decrease ground speed. -Once all wheels are on runway pull the stick back and engage full air break. -At 75 ground speed begin carefully breaking with toe breaks, this is also good time to enable nose wheel steering.
@@knighttemplar4058 The Red cross is just a visualizer for the viewer, so we can see what hes doing with his stick and throttle, the cross is the stick the middle is like the 0 Position (stick is in the middle) and when the point moves he is using the stick, the Bar on the left represents the throttle an its Position and movment
@@knighttemplar4058 Show controls indicator: RCtrl + Enter (it can be shown in every aircraft not just the hornet), but i dont think their is really any use to use it while playing but their u go maybe it will help u :)
not for carrier ladings will need to what till ACL is implemented then it will use Radar controlled landing at the boat. This if for when you touch the deck AB does not engage fast enough if you bolter
When you touch the deck, then you need to take throttle control and put it into AB. I have had no problems getting back off the deck in a bolter situation where I used ATC to land. It is awesome.
@@firemedicjm911OK I was doing it wrong left it AT all the way but, that being said if you need to take control of throttle just as easy to use it all the way after the break. But would defiantly be a pulse on case 3 till ACLS is in
lol wut I aways do in DCS.. when landing I turn on the afterburners, boost to 600kns till 7 mile to the runway, and start to full airbreak, put down the gear, flaps and touch down with 140 kns
So I've played around a lot with ATC auto throttle control for landing and it works with full flaps. The trick is to trim on speed first for full flaps and then engage atc. The velocity vector drops significantly, which you should already be correcting by pulling the stick back. Once the vector indicator starts going up you have to catch it or you'll start climbing. Only minimal stick adjustments after this and you have to constantly adjust. After doing it couple times, I can say it works and is very helpful.
Thx Sir
I'm just now exploring the ATC system....... as you said at 3:50 you have to restrain the urge to go hands-on throttle. I thought of Terrain-Following Radar in the F-111........ at night........ being the first pilot to engage the TFR and trust it, hands off. I've only recently come to learn the automatic carrier takeoff of the F-18....... touch those controls and SPLASH.......... !!!!!!!
Thanks, doc!!! Great tutelage every time.
What in the fresh hell! I have been manually screwing with the throttle for several landings and chasing the E-Bracket everywhere. Now I want to check this out.
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You never have to chase the E bracket if you trim it out correctly and don't get crazy slow or crazy fast
I don't know who needs to see this. but to bring up the control indicator on the bottom left of the screen, just press... (I forgot which one) LCTRL, or RCTLR and ENTER
I needed this thank you!
I already know this but you helped many people by saying this 😂
Wait so can you use this to keep pace with tankers as well?
I spent WAY TOO MANY hours crashing into the deck and NOW I SEE THIS
Left hand is for tying the piddle pack shut. You don't want a full bladder distracting you when you're low and slow.
Reading magazine and right hand on the stick... But any way nice video i have had problems with atc and landing, probably something to do with me landing full flaps.
You're supposed to land full flaps usually.
Landing for dummies..... I'd expect carrier landings to be a piece of cake with this!
it was not difficult from the beginning :D , just need a bit more practice (crashes) , at the end u wont heart by mistakes lol ! atc has delay for adjusting, not a good practice for carrier!
@@manizaeim disagree. I've been practicing for a year and more and I still struggle with getting the landings correct.
Percy Danvers You probably just suck then
I think it actually makes it harder since you're supposed to use throttle instead of pitch on carrier landings to stay on the glide slope.
On the rare occasion I take off feet wet I always plan to land at an airfield. Maybe I will return to the carrier now. Thanks!
Wow...
Thanks Cap, haven't tried ATC yet, but will give it a go today!
Thanks for the video tutorial!
When did ATC app mode get added? Last I heard it was 'later in EA'
I've asked ED if this is ready for use yet, and they haven't replied, so I'm just gonna assume that it is in and working...
@@grimreapers uhhh cap.... it's just getting added now
Thanks again Cap
the braking system for the f18 is so slow. I feel it is easier to land on a carrier because it takes the stress away of running off the runway.
Yeah it takes ages to slow down. I cant land on short runway unless I touchdown really early otherwise i cant get it slow down
aero brake, it helps
Quick thumb rules to break after landing: -Don't land too heavy, the heavier you are the longer runway you'll need. -Always land to the assinged runway number, this means you'll land on upwind, meaning against the wind -Increase AOA while idle throttle just before touch down without tail striking, this will stall the aircraft & decrease ground speed. -Once all wheels are on runway pull the stick back and engage full air break. -At 75 ground speed begin carefully breaking with toe breaks, this is also good time to enable nose wheel steering.
Great video, please do TOT for the harrier when you get time
Harrier has ToT????
Hi, I don’t know if it’s modeled but it you press TMR function, then TTT you will find TOT, I just cannot make it work
That's just amazing!
Can you engage ATC from the cockpit? Is there a switch modeled? It can be a bit tricky to use keyboard keys in VR.
in the hornet is a button on the front of the throttle there two next to each other raid/fov and atc
challenge/video idea for you. Can you land without looking out of the window (only use ddi hud(needles) and on speed indicator
and tacan +hsi etc
yes you can also use a TGP to see the runway and land
Grim Reapers@Hello and thank you for your video..I have a question,if you don't mind..how do you operating the red cross ? thank you for your time .
What do you mean by red cross?
@@grimreapers At the left low corner ,there is block with red cross ,Why I don't have it in my Hornet too ?Thank you for your answer .
@@knighttemplar4058 The Red cross is just a visualizer for the viewer, so we can see what hes doing with his stick and throttle, the cross is the stick the middle is like the 0 Position (stick is in the middle) and when the point moves he is using the stick, the Bar on the left represents the throttle an its Position and movment
@Joker hank you for your answer. Ok..I understand,,Where I can find it to setup in my F18?or is some king mod ?
@@knighttemplar4058 Show controls indicator: RCtrl + Enter (it can be shown in every aircraft not just the hornet), but i dont think their is really any use to use it while playing but their u go maybe it will help u :)
not for carrier ladings will need to what till ACL is implemented then it will use Radar controlled landing at the boat. This if for when you touch the deck AB does not engage fast enough if you bolter
When you touch the deck, then you need to take throttle control and put it into AB. I have had no problems getting back off the deck in a bolter situation where I used ATC to land. It is awesome.
@@firemedicjm911OK I was doing it wrong left it AT all the way but, that being said if you need to take control of throttle just as easy to use it all the way after the break. But would defiantly be a pulse on case 3 till ACLS is in
It's getting ACL? wow cool
I thought for the first 40 hours of flying the hornet that the ATC toggle was for air traffic control radio and never used it. Whoops
Is he using VR at his desk? How is he looking around?
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Thanks CAP! I was wondering if real pilots use ATC for landing on carriers or not. Regards
Definitely in CASE 3 landings they do I believe.
How’d you get the pilot in your cockpit?
It's in options from main menu Im pretty sure. In there somewhere.
Probably not relavant now but to future viewers its right shift an p.. u can also default it on in the menu 😉👍
lol wut I aways do in DCS.. when landing I turn on the afterburners, boost to 600kns till 7 mile to the runway, and start to full airbreak, put down the gear, flaps and touch down with 140 kns
left hand: magazine
right hand: stick
Sounds like a normal guy's evening before free porn was invented.
lol
Drinking beer is bad?
never
I almost unsubscribed after that comment.
American light beer?
Absolutely.
Is this beta?
No.
Yes open beta
I WANT THE AUTO LANDING...
And auto parking at ramp
@GHOSTSKILLS these people need to go back to their tubeliners.
Lol
If you like auto landing, you can play the M-2000C.