There is no driver shortage. These companies just want to pay drivers less. Flood the market with drivers and drop the rates. I’ve been driving for 7 years so I know.
Time to look for another line to work. Most of you guys are true professionals but I have to wonder who in their right mind can stand sitting still for hours on end on Atlanta freeways. Not to mention dealing with Darwin Award candidates
@@timolapse it is.. this isn’t the same generation that it was 30 years ago. Lots of ppl don’t want to be OTR for 5-1/2 days. And longer.. some ppl don’t like that life style. It’s not for everyone. And now you have jobs that pay ppl enough to live comfortable off of. You know? Back in the days. Truck driving is where the money was at. It’s not like that no more…
They always say there is a shortage of drivers but the companies won’t hire you unless you have 2 years experience. It’s hard to get 2 years experience when every company requires it.
It's the insurance company requirements. Insurance goes through the roof for inexperienced drivers. Gotta stick with the mega carriers like Prime and Schneider for the first 2. The ones that can afford the insurance for you.
May trucking is a great company to start out with, they’ll take you. Late model to brand new equipment. I’ve moved on to much greener pastures, but I still miss my time driving for May.
As an engineer all I can say is people don’t particularly manage weather very well. At all. With respect to a machine? With the proper instrumentation, it can see more than you can in human “zero visibility”.
@@VoteForBukele Just like most things that go to sh;t in the field. Desk jockies know everything. . In the real world people need product and truckers drive through terrible weather. A computer is smart enough to stop. Tell your major customer your product is delayed because my computer do not want to drive.
I have over a decade of commercial driving, I've been in many vehicles with a drive cam that only allows so much space between the bumper and the next vehicle. If this is a similar tech, I'd be very interested in in seeing it's performance in New York City traffic where bumper to bumper driving is necessary to move one mile every 5 minutes. I'm also very interested in seeing it maneuver backing off of a busy street into a dock full of workers and forklifts.
Shortage is also due to low wages and less than acceptable treatment for drivers. Who wants to work for peanuts, while been told that a machine will replace you in the near future? No one with a brain cell will stay as a driver these days. The learning curve requires time, training and the liability is very high. Self-driving is here to stay and a young person needs a career with progression.
I know that's the common theme, but that's far from true. Like everything else in this world you got to pay your dues. I know company drivers making 2k+ a week. There is so much money out here, you wouldn't even believe it.
@@pokerchannel6991 Is it? The creation of jet packs been around since the 80's, but do you see people flying around on jet packs? My point is there are over 1000 things automated trucks want be able to do without a human onboard supervising.
@@Aj-qb3pr Hey im going to give you this to scare you tesla bought there software from a company who created it on there own roads void of other people they ran flawlessly during bad weather now think what if America made 1 road across America and normal cars like yours wernt allowed on it thats just near term future
They should perfect the self driving technology with the smallest and lightest vehicles possible, before moving onto big rigs. If a 200 lbs vehicle gets into an accident the damage would be dramatically less than that of a semi truck.
Ikr. But i think they already have with self driving ubers and car auto pilot mode. The reason why you dont see much of self driving lifts or ubers is that uber dont actually own the uber drivers, they just own the app which the drivers use and uber gets a percentage of the money when the customer pays or something like that.
@@jish55 Not sure if you understood my point. Perfect the technology on small cars meaning fully self driving cars. Make small vehicles at cheaper cost, iterate on it, then scale up.
Love to see how it is going to navigate though tight situations in the back of stores and back into a loading dock when other trucks are back there and crowded situations.
Good point, but who created this 100% never drove a truck before or know anything about the business, big carriers are jumping in with them so they themselves don’t loose their spots in the business, as themselves created the bs about drivers shortage.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol. The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and dat to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results wuth that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
They will require a human as backup. So the question is do you want a potentially tired human in control or a machine that never tires and sees in every direction at the same time? You act as if humans don't crash vehicles all the time.
It’s human nature to overvalue trivial skills. Driving a vehicle doesn’t take much skill. Wanna know how I know? All of you muppets do it. And you don’t do it particularly well. I get it. It’s different. But believe me, there isn’t a single thing that you can physically do that a machine can’t do more efficiently, more safely and with less stupidity and distraction.
@@Pau_Pau9 Well of course not. The backups job will to be to stay awake. If found sleeping and something happens. They will be held responsible. That's the whole reason for the human backup. If found sleeping and nothing happens. They will lose their easy job. So there will plenty of incentives to stay awake and alert. Again I trust always active senors with backup sensors over a human any day. People get distracted. People make mistakes. Like missing the run away truck turn off. If a machine detects a issue with the breaks. It will simple go to the next turn off without fail. The whole system of checks would have to fail. Even then, that's what the backup driver is for.
I'm a new trucker of 3 yrs, but sad to say this technology is gonna work. It's gonna hurt many truckers. Imagine all the money these companies will save not having to pay owner operators. A machine can drive 24/7 and only needs to be fueled and maintenance provided at places like LOVE'S. Many of the Mega carriers will be able to have there present fleet trucks modified with the technology. 150 years ago, I'm sure horse powered carriage operators had doubts about the gasoline engine.
Actually I think it's more along the lines of people driving up, especially with kids who pump their fist to get the trucker to honk their horn. Imagine their surprise if there was no driver. By having the sign people are warned. Since so many people don't pay attention to news, or social media they may not be aware of these new trucks.
if I see a self drive truck, I am going to accidentally drop a card board box in front of it. Also, I am going to cut it off in a way where I am not at fault. TLDR: I am going to fvk with it in every possible way to make it crash.
@@pokerchannel6991 Hey im going to give you this to scare you tesla bought there software from a company who created it on there own roads void of other people they ran flawlessly during bad weather now think what if America made 1 road across America and normal cars like yours wernt allowed on it thats just near term future
So let me get this straight. I have to wait weeks on end for spare parts for basic conventional trucks that break down every 30k miles.... yet they think they can mass produce driverless trucks with state of the art cameras......
@@_____case a combination of methods that are a hybrid of using deductive reasoning (something ai cannot do), guessing by touching the emergency grooves on the shoulder to pin point where the lines are, not caring about where the lines are and make the two lane road one by driving in formation behind the car in front of you. Using real time split second decisions and critical thinking to abort and shutdown in a safe location (which isn't as easy as it sounds because there are an extremely limited places that are safe)
@@jaybartgis5148 No one is saying that any of these tasks are easy. You are saying that they are out of reach of modern AI systems. But in reality, these tasks, including deductive reasoning, can be accomplished by modern AI systems.
@@jaybartgis5148 lol you underestimate what ai can do with machine learning and data collecting. You say that like you're an expert on what ai can do when you're only an expert of what its about to replace. Ai already laid its foundation by being able to drive cars, driving a truck would just be like driving a car but with extra steps and more research, plus you can trust a computer to be more consistent, efficient, and cheaper. It would be a good idea for truck drivers to start eyeing other jobs, sooner or later it will replace you. Its better to accept it now than face reality 2 to 4 yrs later and be left with nothing.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol. The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and dat to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results wuth that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
Ford Motor Company doubled employee wage in one day . Henry Ford said he wanted his workers to afford his products .Drivers make money and spend money , that keeps the economy moving. If the electronics of self driving trucks were built by Detroit Diesel or Cummins , the units will break down every mile . The highways will become parking lots .
I dont think this will be running anytime soon. flat tires, adding oil, adding fuel, knowing when and where to back in the dock. Im sure it wont be backing into dock # 5 or if you get the wrong address. Its a lot that goes into trucking that a computer cant compute.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol. The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays.
@@PassiveIncomeTrucker id advice you start eyeing for a new career . Like maybe someone that can maintain the trucks instead of drive them. Cuz sooner or later its going to happen and its better to be prepared than having reality hit you in the face 3 to 5 yrs from now.
@@shadowgun7331the cost was/is too high. Y’all have to understand these companies do NOT like maintaining their fleet. Trucks like these require every last piece to be in great shape to operate…. Whereas with human drivers they can slack on tons of maintenance and still get things done. The only tech here that is obsolete here is self driving cause it cost the company too much to keep it going and too much just for obtaining the thing. These trucks had NO CHANCE of making it kn the market
The idea that these trucks are only meant to replace the shortage of drivers is pure propaganda. Once these work and have full DoT approval. Truck drivers are gone. My man with the best office seat in the world is doing all he can do to make sure that other truckers have no seat. Good job pal...
How is that any different than a normal hijack? Do you know any drivers who are going to be shot over their loads? Difference is the machine will never be in on it. You will have to pull some crap on the open road in full view of dozens of cameras mounted on the truck. You can’t slide a couple grand to the machine so it calls in a theft at the truck stop while it hands you the keys.
@@kevinc8955 exactly, both points are valid, with a ski mask in the middle of the night on open road, u have more than enough time to pull it off on the “machine”
Do you know that 33 percent of Americans are truck drivers or something like that it's 1)3 of the working population. It would destroy the economy over night.
@@aardvarkhendricks6555 People didn't learn to go down in technology to live with horse and buggy. That was the best technology of the times before cars. So they would have been happy to have that.
@@faithfulservantofchrist9876 I'm not sure of what you are trying to say. Capitalism pushes society towards efficiency, productivity and technological innovation. Nothing is more efficient then robots and eventually AI. Human labor will soon become obsolete and we will have to ask ourselves how we want to proceed.
Lmao and both of those had a driver sitting behind it controlling it. Can’t wait to watch people such as yourself get crushed by a semi with 45k in the back of it from one of the sensors failing.
This isn't going to work. Done drivers are hands on. Like at a fast food restaurant. Driving is half the job. Who's going to offload the products and take it inside the restaurant. It might work from dock yard to dock yard like Amazon to Amazon.
The guy with the plaid shirt is really smiling knowing he's about to put millions of people out of work. The high school geeks will be getting the last laugh after all.
the thing is. this is the beginning of the end of working as we know it first they did cars now there moving on to trucks then it will be things like crane and forklifts then it will be a robot like the tesla bot coming for all are jobs and giving us a UBI that will go up to middle class by the end of it but there is know to ways about it we are heading for a tech based great depression mostly because they will either put to much money in the hands of the people not working and it will lead to high inflation or they will give the people out of work nothing and have no inflation with people not knowing where there next meal will come from. its a balancing act one we all failed in the past here is hoping this time is different. if we make it to the other side of this it will be as big as when the car was invented if not bigger than as far as changing the way people live there life and goals in there life will change that drastically.
Convoy. A lead truck has someone in it. He's more like a train engineer than a truck driver. Managing all the operations outside of driving so less people needed, but more responsibility & pay 💵
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol. The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
How about just streamlining the trucking business altogether and only requiring truckers to drive 4hrs to a destination and four hours back to where you came from with a load and pay them a hourly wage$25 - $30 hour and up. You could turn all truck stops into truck relay stops where you would drop off a load and pick up a return load then you could have Interstate truckers who just go to those same truck stops to pick up loads to deliver them to businesses throughout their state no more driving from coast to coast truckers will be home daily with their love ones and then it will be a profitable fun industry to work for. I'm sorry but that's just my thoughts if I ruled the world and I am sure other people have thoughts like this if they ruled the world.😁
A truck going at a high rate of speed could be very dangerous without a human able to make quick (and correct) decisions. I know because I have driven trucks across the country and had a few close calls where I had a couple of seconds to react before having a collision.
Aeroplanes have been landing themselves since the 1970s. Fly by wire technology is getting more advanced but regulations require pilots to be present in the cockpit. The driverless technology will work but may not kick off the human driver completely. That's my take.
Explain to me how a driverless truck is going to fight its way through heavy city traffic, trying to get around cars and cornering. Is a driverless truck going to take the paperwork from your load into a shipper or receiver to get loaded or unloaded. Who is going to get out and open the doors to your trailer. Explain all of this to me and not to mention the price tag. We can't afford the trucks now because of the expense. These things are going to be probably close to $500,000.
It looks like they want everyone in ev cars that are auto pilot so im guessing they will try to outlaw people driving its madness. People will sell themselves straight into slavery.
When it comes to heavy duty vehicles, trucks are cheap. An articulated ladder truck for the fire department will set you back $500 000. So will a top=of -the -line John Deere combine, which btw can work a field without a driver, just based on GPS.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol. The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
Stop telling people there is a shortage of drivers, there is not…i am currently a truck driver, the shortage is places for trucks to safely and legally park. The shortage is of places that allow trucks to go. The caliber of drivers now is trashy and thus places have banned trucks. The shortage is of proper training and etiquette… so many regulations and rules, yet not a whole lot of places to safely park…..
Not a chance any time soon. There was just a video released lately of an autonomous CMV instantly making a hard left and crashing itself into a barrier. It narrowly avoided another vehicle and fortunately none were directly beside the CMV, or it would have crushed the vehicle and it's occupants like a tin can.
@@GENECARP yeah but there was no reason for that truck it just slammed into the center divider. It happened so fast the babysitter couldn't stop. Besides they got sensors on truck. Blind spot sensors tailgating sensors they don't work.. the truck would apply the brakes on the open road due to rain or even the road mist being kicked up triggered it...
Great, take more jobs from people. On another note, you're kidding me, right? The idea of regular sized self driving cars sounds incredibly dangerous, but semi trucks??? I guess that's one way of cutting down on emissions, because now everyone will be too afraid to use the freeway.
Good, less traffic for me. It only sounds dangerous because new technology may as be black magic to you. You don't understand how it works. So stay off the road. No skin off my back. Truth is once protected vehicle accidents will drop to almost zero. Stupid humans cause crashes. That's a fact.
@@VoteForBukele a way to destroy other's people life and freedom USA SUCKS and some day but just some day this country will die!!!! And it's more closer than it is 🔥 here's the proof with this technology and next no one will have a job 🙃
You act like truck drivers don't make mistakes everyday? Hoe many terrible truck drivers are out there? Haha I would prefer an automated system over most of the truck drivers on the road I see.
The shortage comes from companies not paying enough to run a truck and be away from their family for a whole week while still paying by the mile with new laws that won’t let you drive anymore when you aren’t tired.
My guess is that fueling stations will have humans operating the pumps and they will fill up the trucks. Payment may be handled ahead of time via contract between the companies involved.
My sensors had about a small layer of ice on them so the sensors couldn’t operate. Also, 1,000,000+ people out of work when you guys are gleefully “done.” Good for you!
1m people being able to work on something else is a bad thing? Guess we shouldn’t have invented the steam engine so those thousands of galley rowers could still be busy rowing away at it. 💪
@@ClimateKiller Thank you for making this point! To add: we all could have stayed on the farm, plenty of work to do back then, you work 13 hour days in the summer and if it was the late middle ages you likely got time off in the form of non optional hibernation in the winter, because if you moved too much you would die from lack of caloric intake (the relative production per person at that time would make most African nations look wealthy by comparison). To be fair I'm sympathetic to the OTR truckers plight though, but much of the issues involved with them finding gainful employment elsewhere is systematic and would be totally unrelated to this technology shock. Its things like credential inflation, which has barred them from otherwise gainful opportunities, and or restrictive policies like zoning laws which tend to get more restrictive the closer to high wages areas you go; such that unskilled labor cannot afford to move to those areas where jobs pay the most in general (the cost of housing inhibits the move and is almost entirely related to the artificial restriction of housing supply). Further if this nation got rid of zoning laws there would be in effect around 10 million new job openings in construction. Much less our shortages in the trades, somewhere on the order of 5 million jobs that need to be filled currently between auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, and welders. And I'm certain these rigs are going to break down more often since they can do 24 hour hauls, that means the use of that capital is likely to increase, which means breakdown frequency increases within a fixed timeframe (since OTR truckers are no longer sleeping on the haul this increases the frequency of use and subsequent breakdowns by a third within that use period). Also a full automation means the relative cost of all goods comes down, if I remember correctly ITIF did research on this and found that overall productivity would be upwardly benefited around 7% for the nation, wage effects would be in line with productivity effects.
"Can't make mistakes" What a bold statement. People's lives are at the hands of a computer with no operator. How good the AI is one thing, but the machine itself driving is another. You realize the 'mistakes' that truck drivers make kinda let you know something is going on, like "hey I need to make a turn" or they may flash their lights letting people know they'll go after they go. I dont know.. its just so many factors that a robot truck driver won't have that a real truck driver has. Are they gonna notice people doing the arm pump and honk? Hm!?
Who does the pre-trip inspection? Who checks load securement and tire conditions at refueling stops? Who provides automated refueling service when the truck needs fuel? Who navigates the truck through detours or in response to road closures or errors in the navigation/routing system? Who weighs the truck after the customer loads the truck? Who drives the truck when a sudden down-poor, hail storm or dust storm overcomes the RADAR, LIDAR and optical navigation systems?
Hopefully this tech is used to assist operators behind the wheel, the supply chain is already a mess so I really don’t see mass implementation of this tech even in 10-15 years. Waymo is aiming towards level 4 autonomy so I think we’re still a long way from operators being completely removed from the roads.
Lets see if it can put on chains, go through tight spaces, mountain passes, and 90* back onto a dock with 2 inches of space on each side of the rear trailer wheels. All these test are on flat straight roads. In this case it is better to use cargo trains. It will be a long time before self driving semi's take place. Only if the infrastructure is built around for it.
@@thaphreak Both of you have zero clue. With automatic chains you can't go over 25mph. They're fine for in town but not for OTR. Also, driving a car in town is vastly different than driving a semi. Drivers make so many decisions on what rules of the road to break in order to make turns or when to pull out all the time. A computer would just sit there and don't know what to do.
@@kalel33 Both? I been doing this for a bit. at max load 105k every night. In the Snow, in Ice, end getting stuck 3 times this winter in the night, even with chains. THey would have to design a robot to get out of the truck to do what I do. I am not worried at all about automated trucks. and yes I agree with you.
@@thaphreak i did do the research. And it there isnt one. So that's my point. You have no evidence because there is no evidence of trucks be able to drive in the snow.
Yeah, you’re gonna need your little AI robot to get out and put the chains on, amongst the multitude of other driver responsibilities. Make a cargo train drive by itself first and then we’ll talk, they’ve yet to even make that happen.
A lot of trucker cope in comments. This technology will improve over the years and drivers will become obsolete. Anyone judging the tech as it is today is completely missing the point.
This concept is laughable. 15 years CDL, HAZMAT, tanker, doubles and triples rated. How is a self diving truck going to check and adjust the brakes and tires? How will it throw chains on when it's snowy and icy? How will it drop it's skids at the dock? How will it pull the handle to detach the trailer? How can it throw on a gas mask and secure a leak? How can it act in on the scene to mitigate a spill? How can it reach out the window and snap the wiper arm to clear the ice? How will it deal with being hijacked? We have had autopilot for aircraft since around 1940. Planes still need pilots and can only get away with autopilot because it's only used at altitude. When something goes wrong the aircraft can drop thousands of feet before the pilot intervenes. On the road the room for error is a millisecond. Just like electric cars which run on coal and will break the grid soon this will also only cause chaos.
City centers are the most difficult locations for these trucks. It seems like a good solution, for now, would be to have them go driverless over the open roads and long-haul portions, then have a driver meet up and hop in for the last 30 minutes of the drive to assist with details that are hard to handle by the autonomous driving systems. Drop off the load, look over the machine, pick up another load, fuel up the truck, and then send the truck back on its way to the next stop. A driver could handle multiple loads in a day, and they would still go home to their families. I've worked in the trucking industry, and I would greatly prefer this over the traditional over-the-road trucking situations.
Imagine when people learn to hack self driving trucks and get them to drive the entire shipment to where they want. A group of people could unload a million dollars of merchandise depending on the truck they hit.
Everyone thought this was going to take truckers jobs in the near future….I guess all those comments didn’t age well with the news that came out recently lol
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes it’s not going to happen in the near future. Maybe if you’re born today and you want want to be a trucker in 20 or so years, maybe. They can’t even get driverless cars right, so they’re a long ways to getting driverless semi trucks right. As for owner ops, they’re just going to have to pivot as you would in everyday life when an obstacle presents itself. They’re still going to own their trucks, they just won’t have to drive them when this tech is perfected.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes plus, states have already been passing legislation on banning self driving trucks. California just did it and more states are following their lead.
@@edwardp8927 I'm just going to say stay sharp, stay vigilant. I'm personally showing my kids with a visit to my brother in law about what working as an electrician is about, because I feel that they should know that job is an option out there, yes, it's possible for there to be plumbing bots, technologically, but in the end, economics wins. In the end you do need a balance for the fact that machines do not buy or consume in the overall economy. Consumption is part of the overall economy. Balancing the consumption, the labor, and so on, is a complex issue.
i feel like in the beginning when it become way better that they will allow the trucks to drive them self until the truck get into a city or when it get near its drop off location and someone else will just get in the truck and help it to its destination and unload it.
This is pretty dumb. They need to master self driving cars first. If something goes wrong with an 80,000 LB semi truck the results will be catastrophic
Horrible idea. So many lives will be lost or severely injured due to humans relying on technology to do the work for them. Self controlled cars are already dangerous enough let alone letting a 80,000lbs semi truck that has air brakes with gauges that constantly needed to be watched in case of an air leak driving down the road alone. Think we need to keep the robots simple take like self vacuum cleaners not this… These are a big truck driving down the interstate these when loaded or even not loaded hauling a trailer do NOT stop on a dime. Computer can’t do a pre trip…
All i have to say is this if a recall or computer error in that one truck , every truck with that or has that ai system is immediately out of service millions of dollars lost , wasted product and the whole system collapses costing billions of dollars where if there is a problem with a single driver its only one truck can companies really take that risk where instead of losing one load due to bad performance they lose an entire fleet due to a system error or hack think about it
Well for tesla those are the kinds of roads its use too sense they did drive year around but for waymo i dont know tesla just needs to continue to expand and trim there neural network for each town kinda like microsoft flight sim or google maps but with real time information basically he needs to do more waymo and state by state optimize
Just saying, if this becomes a thing, maybe 50 years from now, it will take away more jobs. I fear we are heading for a future of apathy, which as we have seen, only leads to anarchy.
The best thing we can do is put the freight underground. Let humans have the roads. Minimizing the heavy machinery on the roads will allow us to make our transportation smaller, more light-weight, and efficient which will reduce the cost of the transportation, its energy consumption, and free up the roads for more nimble transportation.
@@leibun In the very long term (100+ years) yes. But you can get a lot done by just focusing on the few places that would benefit the most from it for now.
No, take the roads away from humans and give them to machines. Turn people into cargo. We all live longer lives and then we can text or watch all the TikTok videos we want on the road without killing someone.
@@randallstephens1680 Wow, you think just like a leftist. The cost of a vast underground railway network is incredible. Particularly if California government workers build it.
You all are so ready to see people be stripped of their livelihoods for what? Most of you speaking have never and could never operate a semi-tractor trailer. You think it will stop at trucks? Soon we’d all be out of work, replaced by robots. Do you have a plan?
unpopulated opinion - if your job can be replaced by automation, your job should probably be automated. the overall good of being able to transport products faster and more efficient will be overall better for society than however many people losing their jobs and have to find a different career. no one is arguing we should get rid of farming equipment because it now takes 20 less farmers to do the job that one can with modern technology
@@userAlexander computer jobs such as IT networking and coding arent likely to be automated since theyll be the main ones working to automate other jobs
I have only one question. Who responsible for any dead or damage on road if anything happened. Who ? Who cover insurance. State Farm ? Farmers ? Who now answers
Who is going to pre trip the trailers, back in dock door or get into tight spaces? 😂😂 they might make it work but in 50 years so i aint worried, not happening any time soon😂😂
And what happens when it snows, especially here in Wisconsin, even a dusting? What about LTL bumping docks all day at businesses? Na like an airplane, I want someone there
I think self driving vehicle are much safer in snow.. in the cdl license permit, you have to cut your speed in half if it's snowing. So this is a computer it won't forget that, you just need to program that. I'm not sure how this self driving technology will handle in low visibility situations, tho or the unpredictable 4wheelers break checks. Unless they take a whole new approach to the breaking system of self driving trucks I don't see them doing really well on the roads.
@@whatislifebuttheenjoymento3405 And the truck can drive all day and isn’t bottlenecked by 13 hours or whatever cap the law puts on a driver. It can go at half your speed and still make the same time that you do over a days drive.
Everything is automated. You can now go out and do your business in town and literally never have to speak to or require the assistance of another human being. You can top up your car fuel, wash your car, pay for food at self checkout, pay your bills at an ATM, check in and out of Libraries and hotels, order food at a restaurant kiosk, go to the cinema. Soon, trucks will become self driving and it will be only a matter of time before we are no longer needed.
There is no driver shortage. These companies just want to pay drivers less. Flood the market with drivers and drop the rates. I’ve been driving for 7 years so I know.
learn to code
I learn that too over the years , no shortage and its all BS
Time to look for another line to work. Most of you guys are true professionals but I have to wonder who in their right mind can stand sitting still for hours on end on Atlanta freeways. Not to mention dealing with Darwin Award candidates
7 years ain’t nothing compared to these drivers who been driving for 40 years… so you don’t know. You’re still learning
@@timolapse it is.. this isn’t the same generation that it was 30 years ago. Lots of ppl don’t want to be OTR for 5-1/2 days. And longer.. some ppl don’t like that life style. It’s not for everyone. And now you have jobs that pay ppl enough to live comfortable off of. You know? Back in the days. Truck driving is where the money was at. It’s not like that no more…
They always say there is a shortage of drivers but the companies won’t hire you unless you have 2 years experience. It’s hard to get 2 years experience when every company requires it.
It's the insurance company requirements. Insurance goes through the roof for inexperienced drivers. Gotta stick with the mega carriers like Prime and Schneider for the first 2. The ones that can afford the insurance for you.
I know someone who works in HR and he told me you can lie about experience and most companies will believe you😊
May trucking is a great company to start out with, they’ll take you. Late model to brand new equipment. I’ve moved on to much greener pastures, but I still miss my time driving for May.
And one year late Wymo decided to stop its driverless trucks development. Game over for Wymo
As a trucker all I can say is weather. No amount of computers can predict the the weather.
As an engineer all I can say is people don’t particularly manage weather very well. At all. With respect to a machine? With the proper instrumentation, it can see more than you can in human “zero visibility”.
@@VoteForBukele Just like most things that go to sh;t in the field. Desk jockies know everything. . In the real world people need product and truckers drive through terrible weather. A computer is smart enough to stop. Tell your major customer your product is delayed because my computer do not want to drive.
@@VoteForBukele show me a self driving truck driving in snow. Then show me that same truck backing up in a dock.
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I have over a decade of commercial driving, I've been in many vehicles with a drive cam that only allows so much space between the bumper and the next vehicle. If this is a similar tech, I'd be very interested in in seeing it's performance in New York City traffic where bumper to bumper driving is necessary to move one mile every 5 minutes.
I'm also very interested in seeing it maneuver backing off of a busy street into a dock full of workers and forklifts.
I imagine these will be just for motorways for now
Motorways with extremely ideal driving conditions.
Shortage is also due to low wages and less than acceptable treatment for drivers. Who wants to work for peanuts, while been told that a machine will replace you in the near future?
No one with a brain cell will stay as a driver these days. The learning curve requires time, training and the liability is very high. Self-driving is here to stay and a young person needs a career with progression.
We are in the future
I know that's the common theme, but that's far from true. Like everything else in this world you got to pay your dues. I know company drivers making 2k+ a week. There is so much money out here, you wouldn't even believe it.
here is some info for you: self drive truck needs no wage. problem solved.
@@pokerchannel6991 Is it? The creation of jet packs been around since the 80's, but do you see people flying around on jet packs? My point is there are over 1000 things automated trucks want be able to do without a human onboard supervising.
@@Aj-qb3pr Hey im going to give you this to scare you tesla bought there software from a company who created it on there own roads void of other people they ran flawlessly during bad weather
now think what if America made 1 road across America and normal cars like yours wernt allowed on it thats just near term future
They should perfect the self driving technology with the smallest and lightest vehicles possible, before moving onto big rigs.
If a 200 lbs vehicle gets into an accident the damage would be dramatically less than that of a semi truck.
Ikr. But i think they already have with self driving ubers and car auto pilot mode. The reason why you dont see much of self driving lifts or ubers is that uber dont actually own the uber drivers, they just own the app which the drivers use and uber gets a percentage of the money when the customer pays or something like that.
I trust self driving technology more than stupid humans.... human driving has gotten absolutely atrocious
Your logic sounds correct but it's WRONG. There are already robots at 200 lbs or less. With greater weight means greater complexity.
They already have. In the last decade, 95% of all accidents were from human error, not self driving vehicles.
@@jish55 Not sure if you understood my point. Perfect the technology on small cars meaning fully self driving cars. Make small vehicles at cheaper cost, iterate on it, then scale up.
Love to see how it is going to navigate though tight situations in the back of stores and back into a loading dock when other trucks are back there and crowded situations.
Just like a human driver would, they use the same data, visual, sounds, logic, communication with dispatch
@@thomasjust2663 so to back into a dock you need to communicate with your dispatcher? Humm interesting😂
Good point, but who created this 100% never drove a truck before or know anything about the business, big carriers are jumping in with them so they themselves don’t loose their spots in the business, as themselves created the bs about drivers shortage.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol.
The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and dat to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results wuth that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
@@thomasjust2663 Go behind a major shopping market and look at the hairy situations that drivers have to deal with.
The ego of these tech companies is unbelievable.
No, just absolutely NO. I never want to drive near a driverless semi or car ever. Not ever. What could go wrong ? No man to stop it
They will require a human as backup. So the question is do you want a potentially tired human in control or a machine that never tires and sees in every direction at the same time?
You act as if humans don't crash vehicles all the time.
That backup better not be a dummy and fall asleep behind the wheel!
It’s human nature to overvalue trivial skills. Driving a vehicle doesn’t take much skill. Wanna know how I know? All of you muppets do it. And you don’t do it particularly well. I get it. It’s different. But believe me, there isn’t a single thing that you can physically do that a machine can’t do more efficiently, more safely and with less stupidity and distraction.
@@VoteForBukele Oh yeah smart guy?
Then why don't they have full autonomous vehicles out now?
Why don't you go and program one yourself?
@@Pau_Pau9 Well of course not. The backups job will to be to stay awake. If found sleeping and something happens. They will be held responsible. That's the whole reason for the human backup.
If found sleeping and nothing happens. They will lose their easy job.
So there will plenty of incentives to stay awake and alert. Again I trust always active senors with backup sensors over a human any day. People get distracted. People make mistakes. Like missing the run away truck turn off. If a machine detects a issue with the breaks. It will simple go to the next turn off without fail. The whole system of checks would have to fail. Even then, that's what the backup driver is for.
I'm a new trucker of 3 yrs, but sad to say this technology is gonna work. It's gonna hurt many truckers. Imagine all the money these companies will save not having to pay owner operators. A machine can drive 24/7 and only needs to be fueled and maintenance provided at places like LOVE'S. Many of the Mega carriers will be able to have there present fleet trucks modified with the technology. 150 years ago, I'm sure horse powered carriage operators had doubts about the gasoline engine.
Respect the engineers they work for this, while truckers just sit down its a lazy job
@@pedromeowgisuparperv2844
Truckers are not lazy but within 20 years they will become obsolete
A bumper sticker "TEST VEHICLE, NO DRIVER" to keep other cars at a safe distance.
Actually I think it's more along the lines of people driving up, especially with kids who pump their fist to get the trucker to honk their horn. Imagine their surprise if there was no driver. By having the sign people are warned.
Since so many people don't pay attention to news, or social media they may not be aware of these new trucks.
if I see a self drive truck, I am going to accidentally drop a card board box in front of it. Also, I am going to cut it off in a way where I am not at fault. TLDR: I am going to fvk with it in every possible way to make it crash.
@@pokerchannel6991 Hey im going to give you this to scare you tesla bought there software from a company who created it on there own roads void of other people they ran flawlessly during bad weather
now think what if America made 1 road across America and normal cars like yours wernt allowed on it thats just near term future
So let me get this straight. I have to wait weeks on end for spare parts for basic conventional trucks that break down every 30k miles.... yet they think they can mass produce driverless trucks with state of the art cameras......
Yep exactly what lines will these camera be following when theres a foot of snow on top of them.
@@marcushennings9513 How do human drivers know how to stay in the lane when the road is covered in snow?
@@_____case a combination of methods that are a hybrid of using deductive reasoning (something ai cannot do), guessing by touching the emergency grooves on the shoulder to pin point where the lines are, not caring about where the lines are and make the two lane road one by driving in formation behind the car in front of you. Using real time split second decisions and critical thinking to abort and shutdown in a safe location (which isn't as easy as it sounds because there are an extremely limited places that are safe)
@@jaybartgis5148 No one is saying that any of these tasks are easy. You are saying that they are out of reach of modern AI systems. But in reality, these tasks, including deductive reasoning, can be accomplished by modern AI systems.
@@jaybartgis5148 lol you underestimate what ai can do with machine learning and data collecting. You say that like you're an expert on what ai can do when you're only an expert of what its about to replace. Ai already laid its foundation by being able to drive cars, driving a truck would just be like driving a car but with extra steps and more research, plus you can trust a computer to be more consistent, efficient, and cheaper. It would be a good idea for truck drivers to start eyeing other jobs, sooner or later it will replace you. Its better to accept it now than face reality 2 to 4 yrs later and be left with nothing.
It won't replace people because they will still need drivers backup and confirmation for deliveries.
I wanna see it back into a dock between two trucks!!!!
Police are going to be mad they have nobody to harass imagine the police trying to search the automatic truck
😂😂😂
They trained to hate truck drivers
How soon before first lawsuit ?
Well there is an accident almost everyday with human drivers. So not long. A stupid human is bound to run into and try to blame the machine.
@@meoff7602 much better is a machine so is an easy case my next 10 million dollars I already see them 😎
@@austro3852 with all that money waymo gets, they'll get some pretty good lawyers
I can see it already self driving truck plowing through cars.
I would like to see how this truck does when severe weather suddenly happens and massive potholes are in the road
It’s still in development, everyday it gets better.
@@MrAppltec I talk to engineers all I hear is , yea its coming but it will take years 15-20 to safely operate themselves
@@theentrepreneur607 They are probably right.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol.
The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and dat to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results wuth that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
or when people start hacking them
Ford Motor Company doubled employee wage in one day . Henry Ford said he wanted his workers to afford his products .Drivers make money and spend money , that keeps the economy moving. If the electronics of self driving trucks were built by Detroit Diesel or Cummins , the units will break down every mile . The highways will become parking lots .
You're so full of negativity...
Exactly look how much problem def systems have....
I dont think this will be running anytime soon. flat tires, adding oil, adding fuel, knowing when and where to back in the dock. Im sure it wont be backing into dock # 5 or if you get the wrong address. Its a lot that goes into trucking that a computer cant compute.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol.
The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays.
@@shadowgun7331 Oh yeah I'm bitter 🤣🤣🤣
@@PassiveIncomeTrucker id advice you start eyeing for a new career . Like maybe someone that can maintain the trucks instead of drive them. Cuz sooner or later its going to happen and its better to be prepared than having reality hit you in the face 3 to 5 yrs from now.
Electric semis
@@shadowgun7331the cost was/is too high.
Y’all have to understand these companies do NOT like maintaining their fleet. Trucks like these require every last piece to be in great shape to operate…. Whereas with human drivers they can slack on tons of maintenance and still get things done.
The only tech here that is obsolete here is self driving cause it cost the company too much to keep it going and too much just for obtaining the thing. These trucks had NO CHANCE of making it kn the market
The idea that these trucks are only meant to replace the shortage of drivers is pure propaganda. Once these work and have full DoT approval. Truck drivers are gone. My man with the best office seat in the world is doing all he can do to make sure that other truckers have no seat. Good job pal...
My thing is all you need to do is make the truck slow to a full stop and loot the truck on those empty highways
How is that any different than a normal hijack?
Do you know any drivers who are going to be shot over their loads?
Difference is the machine will never be in on it. You will have to pull some crap on the open road in full view of dozens of cameras mounted on the truck. You can’t slide a couple grand to the machine so it calls in a theft at the truck stop while it hands you the keys.
@@kevinc8955 exactly, both points are valid, with a ski mask in the middle of the night on open road, u have more than enough time to pull it off on the “machine”
Show me that truck driving through fog, rain, and snow!!! or what happens when it breaks down?
I'm sure horse and buggy drivers made all types of excuses for not having engine vehicles on the road.
Do you know that 33 percent of Americans are truck drivers or something like that it's 1)3 of the working population. It would destroy the economy over night.
@@faithfulservantofchrist9876 Change is constantly occurring. We will learn to live with it just as horse and buggy drivers did.
@@aardvarkhendricks6555 People didn't learn to go down in technology to live with horse and buggy. That was the best technology of the times before cars. So they would have been happy to have that.
@@faithfulservantofchrist9876 I'm not sure of what you are trying to say. Capitalism pushes society towards efficiency, productivity and technological innovation. Nothing is more efficient then robots and eventually AI. Human labor will soon become obsolete and we will have to ask ourselves how we want to proceed.
Lmao and both of those had a driver sitting behind it controlling it. Can’t wait to watch people such as yourself get crushed by a semi with 45k in the back of it from one of the sensors failing.
This isn't going to work. Done drivers are hands on. Like at a fast food restaurant. Driving is half the job. Who's going to offload the products and take it inside the restaurant. It might work from dock yard to dock yard like Amazon to Amazon.
When Bob is out a job he can thank himself
The guy with the plaid shirt is really smiling knowing he's about to put millions of people out of work. The high school geeks will be getting the last laugh after all.
Poor people are obsolete...
Unfortunately, the only people that got put of a job are the fools who thought this would take off. Company is basically bankrupt
If one hits me I will be the first one to file a billion dollar lawsuit.
95% of trucking companies pay they're drivers poorly. Hence the shortage.
It will make mistakes, especially in icey snowing conditioners
2:16
"Their biggest hurdle is planning for unpredictable human drivers"
CRST truck drives by slowly center frame.
SHOTS FIRED!😂
😂
The truck driver is helping to train his replacement..lol
There’s no shortage .
That’s just an excuse to get that technology on the road.
But that technology is going to fail in an heavy commercial vehicles.
the thing is. this is the beginning of the end of working as we know it first they did cars now there moving on to trucks then it will be things like crane and forklifts then it will be a robot like the tesla bot coming for all are jobs and giving us a UBI that will go up to middle class by the end of it but there is know to ways about it we are heading for a tech based great depression mostly because they will either put to much money in the hands of the people not working and it will lead to high inflation or they will give the people out of work nothing and have no inflation with people not knowing where there next meal will come from. its a balancing act one we all failed in the past here is hoping this time is different. if we make it to the other side of this it will be as big as when the car was invented if not bigger than as far as changing the way people live there life and goals in there life will change that drastically.
Robotic military protecting the government against the hungry people of America
"this truck's not gonna make mistakes." that will be his famous last words. fully automated trucks are a mistake.
Ironically, it was… company going down the drain
I want to see it fuel its self ,open trailer doors and latch them ! Fix the refer ,fuel the refer ,program the refer !
Convoy. A lead truck has someone in it. He's more like a train engineer than a truck driver. Managing all the operations outside of driving so less people needed, but more responsibility & pay 💵
The stores will handle that.
Innovation in fuel stations, docks & warehouses follows the innovation in autonomous trucks, Amazon is already working on this as we speak
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol.
The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
How about just streamlining the trucking business altogether and only requiring truckers to drive 4hrs to a destination and four hours back to where you came from with a load and pay them a hourly wage$25 - $30 hour and up. You could turn all truck stops into truck relay stops where you would drop off a load and pick up a return load then you could have Interstate truckers who just go to those same truck stops to pick up loads to deliver them to businesses throughout their state no more driving from coast to coast truckers will be home daily with their love ones and then it will be a profitable fun industry to work for. I'm sorry but that's just my thoughts if I ruled the world and I am sure other people have thoughts like this if they ruled the world.😁
Computer crash all the time. One freak accident & multi-million dollar lawsuits.
A truck going at a high rate of speed could be very dangerous without a human able to make quick (and correct) decisions. I know because I have driven trucks across the country and had a few close calls where I had a couple of seconds to react before having a collision.
Aeroplanes have been landing themselves since the 1970s. Fly by wire technology is getting more advanced but regulations require pilots to be present in the cockpit. The driverless technology will work but may not kick off the human driver completely. That's my take.
But can it back into angled docks, drive in severe wheather, go up and down mountains etc ??
If Craig Harper paid his drivers more money it would eliminate the driver shortage
NO INSTINCTS TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS!
This will only work for businesses like Safeway, Wal-Mart, FedEx, Ups, that's it. Trucking is far greater than this.
They're probably the majority no ?
@@gaaligadu148 Mega carriers are only 5% of all trucking. 95% are small mom and pop companies.
Explain to me how a driverless truck is going to fight its way through heavy city traffic, trying to get around cars and cornering. Is a driverless truck going to take the paperwork from your load into a shipper or receiver to get loaded or unloaded. Who is going to get out and open the doors to your trailer. Explain all of this to me and not to mention the price tag. We can't afford the trucks now because of the expense. These things are going to be probably close to $500,000.
Send a driverless truck from terminal to terminal and have a local driver cover the last few miles.
It looks like they want everyone in ev cars that are auto pilot so im guessing they will try to outlaw people driving its madness. People will sell themselves straight into slavery.
When it comes to heavy duty vehicles, trucks are cheap. An articulated ladder truck for the fire department will set you back $500 000. So will a top=of -the -line John Deere combine, which btw can work a field without a driver, just based on GPS.
Ur just bitter cuz you'll be replaced sooner or later lol.
The money they could save could be invested into more machine learning researchs to provide better intel and data to the ai, machine learning ai have already shown to do research on deep sea bed with very similar results with that of a tenured scientists. lol you know nothing about computers nowadays
Stop telling people there is a shortage of drivers, there is not…i am currently a truck driver, the shortage is places for trucks to safely and legally park. The shortage is of places that allow trucks to go. The caliber of drivers now is trashy and thus places have banned trucks. The shortage is of proper training and etiquette… so many regulations and rules, yet not a whole lot of places to safely park…..
Not a chance any time soon. There was just a video released lately of an autonomous CMV instantly making a hard left and crashing itself into a barrier. It narrowly avoided another vehicle and fortunately none were directly beside the CMV, or it would have crushed the vehicle and it's occupants like a tin can.
Yeah, those sensors even if they are specialized for driverless cars, they will always be too faulty for driving.
Any videos released of car wrecks with people driving?
@@GENECARP yeah but there was no reason for that truck it just slammed into the center divider. It happened so fast the babysitter couldn't stop. Besides they got sensors on truck. Blind spot sensors tailgating sensors they don't work.. the truck would apply the brakes on the open road due to rain or even the road mist being kicked up triggered it...
lol you wish.
@@RoIIingStoned With all the Autonomous CMV companies going bankrupt and leaving the US and remaining in Europe, not sure what'cha mean boss.
Great, take more jobs from people. On another note, you're kidding me, right? The idea of regular sized self driving cars sounds incredibly dangerous, but semi trucks??? I guess that's one way of cutting down on emissions, because now everyone will be too afraid to use the freeway.
Good, less traffic for me. It only sounds dangerous because new technology may as be black magic to you. You don't understand how it works.
So stay off the road. No skin off my back. Truth is once protected vehicle accidents will drop to almost zero. Stupid humans cause crashes. That's a fact.
If people were any good at it, the machines wouldn’t be invented. Necessity is the mother of invention.
@@VoteForBukele mankind
@@VoteForBukele a way to destroy other's people life and freedom USA SUCKS and some day but just some day this country will die!!!!
And it's more closer than it is 🔥 here's the proof with this technology and next no one will have a job 🙃
You act like truck drivers don't make mistakes everyday? Hoe many terrible truck drivers are out there? Haha I would prefer an automated system over most of the truck drivers on the road I see.
The shortage comes from companies not paying enough to run a truck and be away from their family for a whole week while still paying by the mile with new laws that won’t let you drive anymore when you aren’t tired.
Just wondering how these self driving trucks are going gets low on fuel. How will the add fuel to their tanks?
My guess is that fueling stations will have humans operating the pumps and they will fill up the trucks. Payment may be handled ahead of time via contract between the companies involved.
How to make Optimus Prime:
No matter how perfect it works, it is A MACHINE!!
So why is there no parking at the truck stops?????
My sensors had about a small layer of ice on them so the sensors couldn’t operate. Also, 1,000,000+ people out of work when you guys are gleefully “done.” Good for you!
A driver shortage? What are you doing to retain drivers? Better pay? Naaaah…
1m people being able to work on something else is a bad thing? Guess we shouldn’t have invented the steam engine so those thousands of galley rowers could still be busy rowing away at it. 💪
@@ClimateKiller Thank you for making this point! To add: we all could have stayed on the farm, plenty of work to do back then, you work 13 hour days in the summer and if it was the late middle ages you likely got time off in the form of non optional hibernation in the winter, because if you moved too much you would die from lack of caloric intake (the relative production per person at that time would make most African nations look wealthy by comparison). To be fair I'm sympathetic to the OTR truckers plight though, but much of the issues involved with them finding gainful employment elsewhere is systematic and would be totally unrelated to this technology shock. Its things like credential inflation, which has barred them from otherwise gainful opportunities, and or restrictive policies like zoning laws which tend to get more restrictive the closer to high wages areas you go; such that unskilled labor cannot afford to move to those areas where jobs pay the most in general (the cost of housing inhibits the move and is almost entirely related to the artificial restriction of housing supply). Further if this nation got rid of zoning laws there would be in effect around 10 million new job openings in construction. Much less our shortages in the trades, somewhere on the order of 5 million jobs that need to be filled currently between auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, and welders. And I'm certain these rigs are going to break down more often since they can do 24 hour hauls, that means the use of that capital is likely to increase, which means breakdown frequency increases within a fixed timeframe (since OTR truckers are no longer sleeping on the haul this increases the frequency of use and subsequent breakdowns by a third within that use period). Also a full automation means the relative cost of all goods comes down, if I remember correctly ITIF did research on this and found that overall productivity would be upwardly benefited around 7% for the nation, wage effects would be in line with productivity effects.
"Can't make mistakes" What a bold statement. People's lives are at the hands of a computer with no operator. How good the AI is one thing, but the machine itself driving is another. You realize the 'mistakes' that truck drivers make kinda let you know something is going on, like "hey I need to make a turn" or they may flash their lights letting people know they'll go after they go. I dont know.. its just so many factors that a robot truck driver won't have that a real truck driver has. Are they gonna notice people doing the arm pump and honk? Hm!?
It's just a matter of time before that truck is traveling eastbound at 85 mph in the westbound Lane😂
Who does the pre-trip inspection? Who checks load securement and tire conditions at refueling stops? Who provides automated refueling service when the truck needs fuel? Who navigates the truck through detours or in response to road closures or errors in the navigation/routing system? Who weighs the truck after the customer loads the truck? Who drives the truck when a sudden down-poor, hail storm or dust storm overcomes the RADAR, LIDAR and optical navigation systems?
hi: here is some info for you: ai
@@pokerchannel6991 spoken by somebody who has no CDL and has never stepped a foot into anything trucking related
Hopefully this tech is used to assist operators behind the wheel, the supply chain is already a mess so I really don’t see mass implementation of this tech even in 10-15 years. Waymo is aiming towards level 4 autonomy so I think we’re still a long way from operators being completely removed from the roads.
An artificial intelligence can do all of that in a more efficient way than a dude
Lets see if it can put on chains, go through tight spaces, mountain passes, and 90* back onto a dock with 2 inches of space on each side of the rear trailer wheels. All these test are on flat straight roads. In this case it is better to use cargo trains. It will be a long time before self driving semi's take place. Only if the infrastructure is built around for it.
@@thaphreak Both of you have zero clue. With automatic chains you can't go over 25mph. They're fine for in town but not for OTR. Also, driving a car in town is vastly different than driving a semi. Drivers make so many decisions on what rules of the road to break in order to make turns or when to pull out all the time. A computer would just sit there and don't know what to do.
@@kalel33 Both? I been doing this for a bit. at max load 105k every night. In the Snow, in Ice, end getting stuck 3 times this winter in the night, even with chains. THey would have to design a robot to get out of the truck to do what I do. I am not worried at all about automated trucks. and yes I agree with you.
@@thaphreak show me a video of truck driving in snow by itself sir.
@@thaphreak i did do the research. And it there isnt one. So that's my point. You have no evidence because there is no evidence of trucks be able to drive in the snow.
@@thaphreaksince i been driving people been saying we just a couple of years away from self driving trucks. Ya be wrong for a long time. Lol
Yeah, you’re gonna need your little AI robot to get out and put the chains on, amongst the multitude of other driver responsibilities. Make a cargo train drive by itself first and then we’ll talk, they’ve yet to even make that happen.
I've been seeing those in the Freeways lately Specially around Silicone Valley and Military Base
A lot of trucker cope in comments. This technology will improve over the years and drivers will become obsolete. Anyone judging the tech as it is today is completely missing the point.
Then get ready for a society where everyone loots each other.
This concept is laughable. 15 years CDL, HAZMAT, tanker, doubles and triples rated. How is a self diving truck going to check and adjust the brakes and tires? How will it throw chains on when it's snowy and icy? How will it drop it's skids at the dock? How will it pull the handle to detach the trailer? How can it throw on a gas mask and secure a leak? How can it act in on the scene to mitigate a spill? How can it reach out the window and snap the wiper arm to clear the ice? How will it deal with being hijacked? We have had autopilot for aircraft since around 1940. Planes still need pilots and can only get away with autopilot because it's only used at altitude. When something goes wrong the aircraft can drop thousands of feet before the pilot intervenes. On the road the room for error is a millisecond. Just like electric cars which run on coal and will break the grid soon this will also only cause chaos.
Glad that won't happen in Hawaii in my lifetime.
People cheering this technology on really need to consider the real-world implications
@MUSIKYXTime for a society where everyone steals just to live
City centers are the most difficult locations for these trucks. It seems like a good solution, for now, would be to have them go driverless over the open roads and long-haul portions, then have a driver meet up and hop in for the last 30 minutes of the drive to assist with details that are hard to handle by the autonomous driving systems. Drop off the load, look over the machine, pick up another load, fuel up the truck, and then send the truck back on its way to the next stop.
A driver could handle multiple loads in a day, and they would still go home to their families. I've worked in the trucking industry, and I would greatly prefer this over the traditional over-the-road trucking situations.
Imagine when people learn to hack self driving trucks and get them to drive the entire shipment to where they want. A group of people could unload a million dollars of merchandise depending on the truck they hit.
I’m cool with this but I feel like there should be a button you can push to totally shut down the computers control just in CASE it glitches.
Everyone thought this was going to take truckers jobs in the near future….I guess all those comments didn’t age well with the news that came out recently lol
Just because the company went bankrupt doesn’t mean another cannot fill it’s shoes
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes it’s not going to happen in the near future. Maybe if you’re born today and you want want to be a trucker in 20 or so years, maybe. They can’t even get driverless cars right, so they’re a long ways to getting driverless semi trucks right. As for owner ops, they’re just going to have to pivot as you would in everyday life when an obstacle presents itself. They’re still going to own their trucks, they just won’t have to drive them when this tech is perfected.
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes plus, states have already been passing legislation on banning self driving trucks. California just did it and more states are following their lead.
@@edwardp8927 I'm just going to say stay sharp, stay vigilant. I'm personally showing my kids with a visit to my brother in law about what working as an electrician is about, because I feel that they should know that job is an option out there, yes, it's possible for there to be plumbing bots, technologically, but in the end, economics wins. In the end you do need a balance for the fact that machines do not buy or consume in the overall economy. Consumption is part of the overall economy. Balancing the consumption, the labor, and so on, is a complex issue.
Nah that ain’t a normal driverless truck that’s Optimus prime 😳
There's no drivers shortage companies are not wanting to pay livable wages.
Simple answer: No and Never.
i feel like in the beginning when it become way better that they will allow the trucks to drive them self until the truck get into a city or when it get near its drop off location and someone else will just get in the truck and help it to its destination and unload it.
Time to start using public transportation the roads are to dangerous
Have you actually seen humans operate motor vehicles? It’s like watching a tribe of monkeys copulate with a football.
Is it legal to drive a semi down the road without a driver and is there an insurance company that will cover the company?
What will stop criminals shooting the sensor off take the truck. trucker will destroy them taking there jobs.
There's no shortage of truck drivers. The pay is just not right.
This is pretty dumb. They need to master self driving cars first. If something goes wrong with an 80,000 LB semi truck the results will be catastrophic
Self driving humans are relics of the past. It's time for robots to take over the driving scene.
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@@NR3HGV I have absolutely no idea what you are saying. Speak to me in well structured words.
This will never work
If this comes to pass, it would be an economic disaster with about 8 million truck drivers out of work.
Question how are they going to place the triangles out in case of a flat tire or pre trip
All that is BS. They're not such thing as driver shortage
When they shut down the system again and the trucks don’t know what to do if no one is behind the wheel.
So looking forward to Jonny cab 🚕 services. No reason to own a car with this.
I assume, for now, this tech will be used on the long haul portions of trips, then handed off to drivers in the more complicated areas.
If they need more drivers
Then stop making the hiring process like drivers are joinning the CIA
There’s a driver shortage cause you don’t wanna pay the current drivers
Horrible idea. So many lives will be lost or severely injured due to humans relying on technology to do the work for them.
Self controlled cars are already dangerous enough let alone letting a 80,000lbs semi truck that has air brakes with gauges that constantly needed to be watched in case of an air leak driving down the road alone.
Think we need to keep the robots simple take like self vacuum cleaners not this…
These are a big truck driving down the interstate these when loaded or even not loaded hauling a trailer do NOT stop on a dime.
Computer can’t do a pre trip…
All i have to say is this if a recall or computer error in that one truck , every truck with that or has that ai system is immediately out of service millions of dollars lost , wasted product and the whole system collapses costing billions of dollars where if there is a problem with a single driver its only one truck can companies really take that risk where instead of losing one load due to bad performance they lose an entire fleet due to a system error or hack think about it
how will this truck react in a snow qual ?
if I see a quail on the road, I am going to eat it.
Well for tesla those are the kinds of roads its use too sense they did drive year around but for waymo i dont know tesla just needs to continue to expand and trim there neural network for each town kinda like microsoft flight sim or google maps but with real time information basically he needs to do more waymo and state by state optimize
Just saying, if this becomes a thing, maybe 50 years from now, it will take away more jobs. I fear we are heading for a future of apathy, which as we have seen, only leads to anarchy.
We already have rampant looting and theft by unemployed people, what will change?
What if the computer has a minor glitch for a second and runs over a bus full of our children
The best thing we can do is put the freight underground. Let humans have the roads. Minimizing the heavy machinery on the roads will allow us to make our transportation smaller, more light-weight, and efficient which will reduce the cost of the transportation, its energy consumption, and free up the roads for more nimble transportation.
So … what’s your plan to build an underground interstate hwy or rail system????
@@leibun In the very long term (100+ years) yes. But you can get a lot done by just focusing on the few places that would benefit the most from it for now.
No, take the roads away from humans and give them to machines. Turn people into cargo.
We all live longer lives and then we can text or watch all the TikTok videos we want on the road without killing someone.
Lol.. can you just imagine the cost of doing that. It costs a lot to just build freeways. Now imagine them being underground
@@randallstephens1680 Wow, you think just like a leftist. The cost of a vast underground railway network is incredible. Particularly if California government workers build it.
You all are so ready to see people be stripped of their livelihoods for what? Most of you speaking have never and could never operate a semi-tractor trailer. You think it will stop at trucks? Soon we’d all be out of work, replaced by robots. Do you have a plan?
unpopulated opinion - if your job can be replaced by automation, your job should probably be automated. the overall good of being able to transport products faster and more efficient will be overall better for society than however many people losing their jobs and have to find a different career. no one is arguing we should get rid of farming equipment because it now takes 20 less farmers to do the job that one can with modern technology
@@userAlexander computer jobs such as IT networking and coding arent likely to be automated since theyll be the main ones working to automate other jobs
Whoever created this tech got their wife stolen by a bubba in a Peterbilt 379.
I have only one question. Who responsible for any dead or damage on road if anything happened. Who ? Who cover insurance. State Farm ? Farmers ? Who now answers
I'm can see the cost just to maintain this problem
Yes, there’s a driver shortage but I think pay is the problem. Easily fixed.
You think there is a driver shortage since the media tells you this every day until you believe it
Who is going to pre trip the trailers, back in dock door or get into tight spaces? 😂😂 they might make it work but in 50 years so i aint worried, not happening any time soon😂😂
And what happens when it snows, especially here in Wisconsin, even a dusting? What about LTL bumping docks all day at businesses? Na like an airplane, I want someone there
I think self driving vehicle are much safer in snow.. in the cdl license permit, you have to cut your speed in half if it's snowing. So this is a computer it won't forget that, you just need to program that. I'm not sure how this self driving technology will handle in low visibility situations, tho or the unpredictable 4wheelers break checks. Unless they take a whole new approach to the breaking system of self driving trucks I don't see them doing really well on the roads.
@@whatislifebuttheenjoymento3405 And the truck can drive all day and isn’t bottlenecked by 13 hours or whatever cap the law puts on a driver. It can go at half your speed and still make the same time that you do over a days drive.
Everything is automated. You can now go out and do your business in town and literally never have to speak to or require the assistance of another human being. You can top up your car fuel, wash your car, pay for food at self checkout, pay your bills at an ATM, check in and out of Libraries and hotels, order food at a restaurant kiosk, go to the cinema. Soon, trucks will become self driving and it will be only a matter of time before we are no longer needed.