when i said the game needs more techs everyone misunderstood me and started flaming me one of the appealing aspects which aba somehow has over su is that some combos are fun or tricky to pull off which makes it more fun because of the existence of techs
One underrated aspect of this conversation is the balancing of both games. aba is the more polarizing game due to its balancing, with it basically generating tons of crazy moments and clips of stupid combos and whatnot, whereas su overall is a lot more tame. Since aba has higher highs, it kind of wins over people in a way. Most everyone understands aba has the better combos, bigger roster (and arguablly better characters due to those combos), and stronger community (although it didnt start that way), but I think most people look at aba's balance as mainly a negative when it is arguably part of the reason it is so popular and more liked than su. Sometimes having a "worse" made game is actually a good thing, theres a reason kusoge's exist.
I feel like another one of the main reasons is it's far too complicated to pick up for a more broader audience. There are so many buttons to learn and mechanics to memorize, yet there isn't much innovation the players THEMSELVES can do. The characters aren't flexible. This game takes the "expand outwards" route, without leaving room for the players to grow inwards. I hate to compare it to TSB (the sloppiest battlegrounds) but in that game the mechanics are incredibly simple. M1s, jump, moves, dash. The only bit of modern universal tech they have is the ragdoll cancel, and it's just a dash while ragdolled. It's that very limited and simple moveset that forces players to develop techs and niche things to do. Not to mention the lack of a key audience. People who like ABA style air combat will play ABA, and those that don't like that style of combat won't play SU at all.
1. ABA has had a loyal fanbase for over like 5/6 years now 2. ABA has over 10x the characters of SU despite, on average, the characters being much more poorly designed. That alone makes ABA way more appealing as theres more content and more to try/aim towards. 3. SU combos are not as variable as ABA. The combat also feels a lot less free. However, the characters are VERY balanced and that may be the reason. ABA characters are so horribly balanced its insane. Get hit once with some characters and youll get TOD'd or inf combod.
SU didn’t want to change their boring combat, going off the copium that just because the small majority of their discord polled that they liked the combat (the same people keeping their game at 300 players)
i think the main reason is...game just released in wrong time. as i know it was in development for 1-2 years, which is insane the thing that shonen unleashed have now is not really impressive anymore.
Lowkey hot opinion but anime unlimited (that other ABA like game that died out like 2 times) is better than shonen for me just cuz it has that aba feel while having a kind of polish and unique paint to its roster as well
It's so shit the developers are lazy the owner is greedy and the game dies every time they try to make a new one. They had like 4 different anime unlimiteds and they were all the same cash grabs
SU is fundamentally better but somehow The Slop game i play known As ABA which is way worse ofc the balancing is dog shit but the variety of characters makes ABA stand out
Lack of content, and the lack of bad players, the average roblox players is around 10 to 12 years old, so if they join the game they'll get smoked, because the only people that still play this game are sweats, same thing happened to Heaven's Arena
@theblackpilgrim1 chika barrage (trunks sword barrage), umbrella girl barrage (might guy nunchaku barrage), umbrella girl fly thing (chika balloon), literally 70% of prestige characters (one of them is literally just lancer + ishkandar or however he's called) and many more!!!!!
it's a great game but it's too systematic and has no combos outside of their bread and butter combos
Mhm, there’s no reason to go into training besides learning the bread and butter or testing the new balance changes
Same game these testers were saying that was so advanced compared to other battlegrounders.
Tried way too hard to be different
when i said the game needs more techs everyone misunderstood me and started flaming me
one of the appealing aspects which aba somehow has over su is that some combos are fun or tricky to pull off which makes it more fun because of the existence of techs
One underrated aspect of this conversation is the balancing of both games. aba is the more polarizing game due to its balancing, with it basically generating tons of crazy moments and clips of stupid combos and whatnot, whereas su overall is a lot more tame. Since aba has higher highs, it kind of wins over people in a way. Most everyone understands aba has the better combos, bigger roster (and arguablly better characters due to those combos), and stronger community (although it didnt start that way), but I think most people look at aba's balance as mainly a negative when it is arguably part of the reason it is so popular and more liked than su. Sometimes having a "worse" made game is actually a good thing, theres a reason kusoge's exist.
I feel like another one of the main reasons is it's far too complicated to pick up for a more broader audience. There are so many buttons to learn and mechanics to memorize, yet there isn't much innovation the players THEMSELVES can do. The characters aren't flexible. This game takes the "expand outwards" route, without leaving room for the players to grow inwards. I hate to compare it to TSB (the sloppiest battlegrounds) but in that game the mechanics are incredibly simple. M1s, jump, moves, dash. The only bit of modern universal tech they have is the ragdoll cancel, and it's just a dash while ragdolled. It's that very limited and simple moveset that forces players to develop techs and niche things to do.
Not to mention the lack of a key audience. People who like ABA style air combat will play ABA, and those that don't like that style of combat won't play SU at all.
@@rnaodmsomething incredible, I couldn’t of said it better myself. ❤️
1. ABA has had a loyal fanbase for over like 5/6 years now
2. ABA has over 10x the characters of SU despite, on average, the characters being much more poorly designed. That alone makes ABA way more appealing as theres more content and more to try/aim towards.
3. SU combos are not as variable as ABA. The combat also feels a lot less free. However, the characters are VERY balanced and that may be the reason. ABA characters are so horribly balanced its insane. Get hit once with some characters and youll get TOD'd or inf combod.
the little animations you put in this video is actually fire, w vid
@uwi9148 appreciate it ❤️, I will try to implement more.
cut out the stutters and pauses in ur audio i PROMISE its gonna come out 10x better
Agree
And stop with the filler words, having to tell us "y'know" for the 20th time WONT make us KNOW
@ajojofann agreed
SU didn’t want to change their boring combat, going off the copium that just because the small majority of their discord polled that they liked the combat (the same people keeping their game at 300 players)
ANIME SHOWDOWN PLEASE SAVE ME
That gave doesn’t even have a someone to make scripts
How do we tell him
@@theblackpilgrim1 they hired like 4 new scripters big dog
@@puperman4208 oh really I had no idea, I haven’t kept up with the game. So who knows it might make a resurgence.
For me it’s truly just the lack of characters for real
W video man, you got so much talent, underrated youtuber fr please keep up the good work and dont give up 🙏🙏
HEY! thats really nice to say! I Appreciate it alot. Hope you have a great day man.
i think the main reason is...game just released in wrong time.
as i know it was in development for 1-2 years, which is insane
the thing that shonen unleashed have now is not really impressive anymore.
Yea I know what you’re saying people have already seen what the game has to offer so there’s nothing new to see besides the updates they add
For me it’s that they don’t allow you to get that many characters fast and it gets boring to grind with one character
yeah, they could add more daily challenges to fix that or release more characters upon updating.
Lowkey hot opinion but anime unlimited (that other ABA like game that died out like 2 times) is better than shonen for me just cuz it has that aba feel while having a kind of polish and unique paint to its roster as well
Literally just an aba copy
@ only other game to have sans in it so I’m chillin
It's so shit the developers are lazy the owner is greedy and the game dies every time they try to make a new one. They had like 4 different anime unlimiteds and they were all the same cash grabs
personnaly its heaven arena this game is the only one who tryed to really differentiate from aba while having more freedom in the combat systeme.
sorry for playing shadow dio, bro
Lol all good I just needed background footage
I'll give it another two updates before the devs abandon this like they did troublesome bg 2 and make troublesome bg 3 💀
I really hope not, LMAO.
Good video but please fix that mic asap gng
The animations u added in are cool and unique so keep those up 🙏🙏
Yeah, rewatching it noticed that alot, I will work on that for sure.
deepwoken purple guy posted
I’m not the purple guy 😡
SU is fundamentally better but somehow The Slop game i play known As ABA which is way worse ofc the balancing is dog shit but the variety of characters makes ABA stand out
Lack of content, and the lack of bad players, the average roblox players is around 10 to 12 years old, so if they join the game they'll get smoked, because the only people that still play this game are sweats, same thing happened to Heaven's Arena
w vid👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks a lot ❤
aba has way more reused moves thats why
true, one of Ragna moves was reused before they changed it, but can you list another example?
@theblackpilgrim1 chika barrage (trunks sword barrage), umbrella girl barrage (might guy nunchaku barrage), umbrella girl fly thing (chika balloon), literally 70% of prestige characters (one of them is literally just lancer + ishkandar or however he's called) and many more!!!!!
its a super good game but everybody is just loyal to aba lol
First view
Luv u bro ❤