Antiques, Dating Chinese Ming to Qing Porcelain and Learning About Footrims
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A look at dozens and dozens of Chinese porcelains from the Ming to Qing Dynasty. Learning about the importance of foot rings through the periods. Learn what they should look like on authentic examples and a look at some fakes.
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Do you ever help people with authenticating a piece of porcelain besides your videos?
Hi peter, thank you for the video it gives me great insight.
Actually i stumbled to this video because I am a bit curious. I have a piece that has been in my family for decades, ever since I could remember. Its a very interesting piece, but I cant seem to find one similar. I dont even know if its a vase or a bottle. The piece has a painting somewhat i think of two warriors fighting, and the backing has a red inscription in chinese character "ming".
Would you mind helping me take a look at it? I would love to send pictures of the piece to you via email.
Gm Peter I have a very rear I would say bowl it is very unusual it has a Chinese house on and a breach and beautiful clouds and trees and five fishes jumping out of the water it has three chips nothing that can't be fix and it has gold edging I am puzzled by it I do not no if it is Japanese or chineese
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I have some old antique.
As I was watching the video, I don`t know why it dawned on me, my father, who spent his childhood in Canton from 1917-1936, always painted our wodden house green and pink....of course! Tang colours in a house properly facing south! Uncommon colours for Costa Rica which I finally undestand.
Wow! Thank you so much for your willingness to share your expertise. I truly appreciate it!
Thanks for watching!
@@PeterCombs may i know your email add? CAn i send you some antiques? Can you help me determine my antiques that i found from shipwreck and the ship is made of wood materials where in and we know that was the time of world war 2.
As I am gradually shifting my interest from 18th century Chinese porcelain to 16th-17th century late Ming and transition period samples, I find this video extraordinarily informative and helpful. Thank you!
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
Hello from New Zealand. I’ve just started collecting, so a real joy to come across this site and Peter’s sage advice!
Mr. Peter: You explained very well, and you have a deep research on Chinese porcelain. Thank you!
i have been following your page for quite some time i feel very admired and very excited for your antiques I am now also fortunate to have some antiques from the Ming Dynasty
Thankyou. Intelligent people share their knowledge because they know that they too will grow through sharing with others. I appreciate your generosity.
I loved this video, great information. Please keep the good stuff coming, big thanks Peter
Thank you so much! These videos are so helpful and interesting!!
What an excellent, comprehensive video! Thank you for making this! I learned SO much!❤
Awesome video. Very educational. Thanks for sharing your Knowledge! Much appreciated.
Excellent help! Thank you much. I will end up studying this several times I'm sure. Now I begin to see the importance of not only identifying production processes but also knowing which rims are specific to which periods. Much to learn.
Hi Peter,
I have been watching your videos for few months, Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. It surprises me, I am able to distinguish some of the original pieces at the first glance. The original are simply beautiful vs fake stale, mechanical.
You are very welcome
Wonderful, thanks for sharing your expertise.
This is a wonderful video, very informative with good photos. I will watch it again. Thank you.
Thank you for this video. This is my first to watch on your channel. I plan to watch as many as I can. I watched ever second
learn lot knowledge from Peter's video. Thank you very much!
Hello Peter: It has been a long time that I have watched any of your wonderful videos. As you know life has changed a little bit for any of us, therefore I concentrated on other things. However, I am back.
We're all for the most part I think doing the best we can dealing with the new normal until things can be brought under control . Being optimistic is the only way to make the most of it . It's not easy. Best Peter
And he taught me,in old cantonese, Li Po famous poem "Night Thougts" amazing how art is really history. Suggest you watch Shadow by Zhang Yimou every scene speaks to the old chinese aesthetics.
I am so sorry I meant "Night THOUGHTS"
I love love love this vid ... thank you so much 🥰 so informative 🥰🥰🇬🇧
Thank you Peter Combs, this video is very educational in identifying different characteristics of old porcelain. As a novice in collecting Chinese porcelain, this video gave me a wealth of knowledge.
You're very welcome, and I am delighted you found it helpful. Another element to use in identifying things. Best Peter
Love this program!!
Thank you Peter, just what i was looking for, educational and helpful.
Great information.Thanks.
Thanks for your insights and knowledge on foot rims. When will you teach us how to read Rein marks?? LOL
This was very helpful in determining the difference between real and fake.
Fantastic and highly informative video. Professionally outlaided with superb easy to follow periodic examples.
It's all part and parcel of the learning process, we hope it helps collectors, dealers and fans learn just a bit more along their journey. Thanks you...Best Peter
Thank you Peter
Thanks for all the info. It greatly helps!
Thank you Peter for a good education on foot rims. I think I get it now!
Foot rims are not a sole indicator, but very strong ones when taking all else into account. 35 years ago, I learned about them from Marion Chait Howe (Ralph Chait Gallery NYC) when I was fairly new to the business. She was a whiz..Best Peter
Very interesting ! Thanks a lot ! 🌸🤗
I have China antiques from my family like you to give comment and valuations. Appreciate your expertise thanks.
Very informative.
Practice practice practice
Excellent job highlighting features
Thank you for sharing.
讲解的非常到位！欣赏/收藏/学习。。。谢谢！！
Great. Now I find a new meaning in dating my Chinese wife.
Thank you sir. Informative for me 🙏❤❤❤🇹🇭
My goodness! That was soooo interesting and informative. I look forward to hearing more. Thank you.
This is a very helpful vid，I will study this vid and your opinion several times for sure。I hope those people buying the fakes see this。
Best wishes!
Thank you
Awesome work and video
Useful information. Thanks.
Thank you so much for your sharing.
Fantastic video!
Wonderful detail and information. Thank you.
Thank you ,very informative and interesting.
Thank you for your video Can you make a video about color vase 😊
Great 👌👌👌
Thank you. I have inherited a beautiful xuande calabash vase. Slight blueish-greyness to the white glaze. Peonies/plum with one ?magpie in the flowers. Very delicate and thin. The bottom is glazed white. The bottom rim is narrow and so clean. There is a vertical 6 figured signature in calligraphy on the shoulder where the decoration has lessened towards the back. The signature looks like a 'Shen Du' type. Quite small writing but I've read that this is the case with his type of signatures. The actual calligraphers of that time DID copy his calligraphy. There are no cracks or chips. It is immaculate. My Mum inherited it. I just feel this could well be a genuine Xuande double gourd vase. Where the deep blackish blue is heaped and piled, there are some little tinny looking marks that show up if I shine a torch on it. I used to gently blow across the top of it, when a child, (Mum held it,) and it sounded like a flute! Would you guess its value, if genuine? Perhaps I ought to add that my Mum's grandmother was a good friend of Oscar Wilde.
Thank you!
Very interesting I learned a lot, thank you very much
Glad to hear that!
Thankful you master antik chinesen 🗣 . Poselin. Proselin.....
Amazing thank you so much
Thx for your sharing info.
This is helpful, thanks. I think you should say what each is worth and time it was made.
Iron oxide is rust.
Subscribed! I thought the exact opposite. That the brownish tinge on the footrim would have meant it was old and had seen a lot of cabinets or tabletops throughout the years. Then had been dirtied up or stained. 🙏
Even those are copy still I love it.
Very useful.
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Peter. the iron mark you keep talking about is the fuming of the glaze during the firing very common in the high-fiving ceramics and shows especially on the white bodies .Chers
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I don't buy porcelain but love history and antiques, it's wonderful the way you explain how to spot the fake piece s
Beautiful
Those are beautiful
Looks simple but it is fullfill
I’d like to thank you a lot for putting the effort to make this video, it’s very informative!
But I left with one question; is the blue-ish tinge of the glaze always a sign of authenticity?!
O my I Love It
Hello Peter. I have two pieces. The glaze style look like Jun glaze. The pieces are contemporary I think but I would like to confirm with you if you don't mind.
Thank you in advance for your answer
Peter I have a piece I need to find out what it is worth. Supposedly ming porcelain in a beautiful carved wooden tray with a brass hanger for the wall. Who could tell me what I have from x family in laws that loved and spent lots on antiques.
Do you happen to have small blue ming wine jar about 5" tall because i had one its had with the family for a long time.
You are really highlighting a kind of madness in the Asian antiques world. If today's potters can reproduce the quality of the ancient porcelains for a fraction of the price then the problem is in people's heads of coveting and buying historical artefacts at crazy prices, usually because they want these "assets" to increase in value (viz greed).
Mike Harrington I’m no great collector or anything, but I think most collectors want the original porcelain because it is a piece of history, from a time of such a rich culture and deep artistic tradition. Personally, I have no interest in fakes or contemporary copies no matter how authentic they might appear, and how much cheaper they may be. I buy mostly Chinese porcelain in the under $500 category anyway, but there are many beautiful objects in that range.
Did you really just ask why new ones are not as expensive as vintage pieces?
Supply and demand. There are hardly any vintage ones left, therefore, they are expensive.
I inherited my sisters oriental collection mostly “diggings” collection. How do I send the pictures to you?
I really like your identifying series, best ever educational videos I watched。 I tried to pay on your website to become a member but paypal always failed me. Can you add Amazon payment?
You can pay Via Stripe, which is a Credit Card Processor for VISA and Mastercard etc. If PayPal isn't cooperating with your browser, you might try clearing your browser CACHE and History as well. Chrome and several other browsers have had some security updates recently that created some issues with old CACHE files. Best Peter
When I send photos for identification, should I scrub the foot of the bases first or leave it, nevermind, you just complimented someone for cleaning the base before photographing. Thanks for the great videos.
It's always helpful to be able to see as much as possible, though it doesn't bother us that much. Best Peter
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Hi Peter,
May I send you a few pictures for identification? What I believe to be a Wan Lee jar scroll mark jar set? And some other unidentified blue and white scroll vase from the Ming dynasty? I’m not pro but have a excellent eye. My gut tells me it’s legit.
Sincerely,
David
It would be helpful if a chart of names and dates listing the dynasties was perhaps in the background.
Peter, you reference "paste" often. As a hobby potter I don't think I have heard that term. Are you referring to the clay body? Always learn a lot from your videos.
hello M. Combs, excellent video, do you recommend the book of Mister Anthony John Allen "the detection of fakes" ??
Yes very much, I know Tony, his books are very good tools, he has several worth owning. Best Peter
Dear Peter,I have an early 19th century family rose mandarin tea pot with its bespoke wicker and brass cosy case .
Could I send photos for your opinion and valuation?With best wishes,love your channel,Greg
I have come across 2 celadon saki cups, apparently xande ming dynasty. There are 4 characters which are quite defined. I've been watching your video, but I'm still unsure if they are replicas or the original thing. Is there someone who can help me identify them?
Sir, how much is the pair jars painted with WU CHAI( Ching dynasty early)?
I'm very impressed with ur video & 😱 u sure know ur bottom pieces of Ming n Quin Long periods 🤗
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Do you have any recommendation about what to use to clean footrims so as not to do any damage them?
You can use traditional Oven Cleaner i.e "Easy Off", or FANTASTIC works fairly well. Either of these can be used on the entire piece, just do not get EASY OFF on any gilding as it will strip it off. Porcelain enamels are impervious to the stuff though. Best Peter
@@PeterCombs Thanks for that!
I have a bowl with a reign mark on the bottom. Can I send you a picture of it to see if its a rarity?
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You give a lot of information. My question is. I have a small bowl. It was very dirty. I cleaned it up. It has minor nicks on the rim. A bit of that rust color in areas. Its Blue and white. It fits in my hand. I have been looking to see if any small bowls look like this. It has a lip around the top of the bowl. I have not seen any bowls with a lip or flat rim. The bottom looks like what you say is ming. I was just curious if you have came across any small bowls like this?
I think that sometimes tea 🍵 bowls were very small and would fit in the palm of your hand. I’m just an ordinary person who ‘’knows nothing’” but am trying to learn. So check out tea bowls. Hope this helps. Saw your comment was 9 months old which was why I decided to comment on your question. Best of luck.
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I have some rare looking jars wondering where i can send to you for your opinion and comment😊
I have an immortal holding a staff around seven or eight in with a staff and intricate moustache has hole on each ear.The mark has six characters and says China in a circle.Does anyone know what this is also has a peach or lotus flower in hand and a bird on his back
I saw many similar as I've looked on eBay and many porcelain dealers.
How do I get a valuation.?
Hello, unfortunately, I do not understand English very much, but using a translator is better than nothing. Thank you for your useful explanations. I would like you to give me your opinion on some pieces that I bought from a friend outside my country. I am waiting for them to be sent to me, but do you have a contact account? I can send pictures to you so you can give me your opinion. Thank you.
Which is the most expensive ?
Hi. Can I ask you to help me with a problem?
For the wanli jar, very rare mark for a imperial family to use, somehow I still don't believe its a true piece
Do you mind if I translate this vid and put it on Chinese network？
Sure I'd appreciate it very much, wouldn't mind at all. Best Peter
What if someone watches this and ends up take these tips of authentic ceramics and tries to copy?
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I ned información.
hello, can i send you some items china, please tell me the age and approximate price
I have three pieces and have no clue what they are. One has a number on the bottom (218.5 14.5). Another says Made in the People’s republic of China, and the other has all kinds of writing. (Dollarama Montreal QAbellcana Damal MADMN Farr.Que in Chine) it’s very hard to make out all the correct letters. They all seem to have the foot rims you speak of, and the Colbert Blue. All very white on the foot.
I'm from Indonesia, I have antiques, is the boss interested in buying them?
surely it's not beyond the 'fakers'' to emulate exactly the genuine foot you describe so nicely for them!
Exactly. I believe the “fakers” have their experts too.