Poor Kamelion always getting the short end of the stick and getting used by the Master again I wonder if this is an origin story for how this universe’s master gets him in The King’s Demons
Is it me (as Terry Wogan used to say) but it seems impossible that the 50th anniversary of the Master’s debut is here, so comparatively soon after the golden jubilee of the show itself. Only eight years had passed between Hartnell emerging from the gloom of Totters Lane and Pertwee collapsing into the heather and the arms of Unit. It’s not just that there was a vast difference in the show, but society itself had changed almost beyond recognition in the intervening years. The worlds of 1963 and 1971 seem utterly unconnected, by time or space. Perhaps it’s my age, but in comparison 2013 seems just a large amount of yesterday’s ago, it’s zeitgeist no different to now.
Yes, since 2003. His first story as the Master has David Warner as the Doctor, Nick Courtney and the Brigadier and David Tennant as a very unpleasant UNIT officer.
I think 2019, 2020 and 2021 are going to be the year where we celebrate the villains of our stories and maybe even turn them into dark anti-heroes, at best.
Yeah I also enjoyed that TARDIS crew as well as especially since Kamelion gives a companion with uniquely alien properties to the story that never got explored in the show
Ironically, for an Impressionist Jon Culshaw has he most distinctive voice I've ever heard. Yet another reason why not only do I disagree with him playing beloved Who characters, but I disagree with Big Finish going through a phase of constantly hiring the same people for every production (Dan Starkey, Jon Culshaw...)
I agree. Jon Curlshaw can do a good Tom Baker but with Pertwee and the rest he is only good at one aspect of the characters. For example, when he tries to imitate Ainley he focuses on that scene in the Five Doctors where The Master greets Chancellor Flavia and Burusa. With Pertwee he is only good when Pertwee says " What you take me for old chap?". With the Brigadier he is only good when the Brigadier is yelling. Like "Sargent Benton!". The results are characters that sometimes sound similar to the original actors because he is only good at certain characterizations. With Kamelion there's no effort. It sounds like Curlshaw with a robotic voice.
It’s implied he comes after his universe’s equivalent of Delgado. The story begins with the master regenerating after a crash and it’s revealed that he’s already lived through the Pertwee years (just minus the Pertwee, or any Doctor for that matter)
As well as making me glad I ordered Masterful, I now have visions of the Unbound Master v the Fifth Doctor, a story I didn't know I needed until now. Clearly between this and Master! it will be a fantastic 2021.
On TV, the 2023 60th Anniversary will also be exactly 50 years since the LAST appearance and sad loss of Roger Delgado - the Original, you might say. A multi Doctor / multi Master story for the 60th? Tennant, Smith, Capaldi, Whittaker, and the 14th Doctor vs Jacobi, Simm, Gomez, Dhawan, and a cgi Delgado cameo... Because these characters have got history
@@eclecticdog2k901 I get where you're coming from. But I feel that trying to crowbar in proactive cameo's of all the classic Who actors - another "no Sir, all thirteen" style moment - would look like just a rehash of The Day of the Doctor. Maybe a nostalgic montage showing previous encounters might work? Likewise, onscreen Tennant can just about convince us he's the same guy these days - McGann definitely can - but Eccleston? No way. Got to suspend a whole lot of disbelief there, or use some fancy schmancy de-aging tech to pull it off (can't wait for him on audio, though, omg :). I suppose having the older Doctors play different, alternate universe roles might work, as part of some dastardly Master-plan... but that's getting a bit Zagreus (which I really enjoyed btw). I do appreciate you joining in with the spirit of the OP though. Unlike some... I mean, I get that this is a Big Finish safe-place right here. But surely the words "anniversary" and "multi-Master" carry further than audio only! The Light at the End was a valiant effort. The Legacy of Time did it better. Masterful will be my first BF of the New Year, to join the almost 300 (and rising) I already own on download-only... If the TV version can do the 60th even half as well as BF undoubtedly will, I'll be happy :)
Harveyc_05 Harveyc_05 He debuts in the Doctor Who Unbound story Sympathy for the Devil (also in the cast is some chap called David Tennant, didn’t get anything bigger), reappearing in the third volume of The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield and The War Master: Anti-Genesis.
Why do some of the Unbound Master's lines shake around from left to mid stereo field? It's very distracting :/ Please make the recordings mono in the edit?
So I haven’t heard a single story where Mark Gatiss is the Master so could someone explain to me what’s is part in all of this? And don’t be shy to spoil it for me 😊
Obscure, AU, OC, Master from a near 20 years old story, and the character iteration was on ice until about two years ago when he started popping up in other BF ranges.
@@CardCaptorDeadpool I don't know how obscure he is as far as Big Finish goes. The Unbound Stories were one of the first things I heard about Big Finish doing.
I believe he started in a story with Benny when she gets stuck in an au. She finds her way back. The Master follows shorty after. Even "helping" the Jacobi Master when he does
To be fair, most of his appearances thus far as The Master have been under a pseudonym. Peeps probably wondering why Big Finish haven't brought back Sam Kisgart 😁
I think he’s the only actor to portray both Master and Doctor. Master: canonical but alternate. Doctor: parody but brilliant in 1999 - Doctor Who Night, where there’s also a sketch that’s basically the plot of “An Adventure in Space and Time” condensed into 5 minutes
In crossover i am redeemed this one no more evil plans the Covid 19th changed me not torule in evil way or doing evil things though i kinda have that evil laugh sometimes.
So, how many people is Mark Gatiss now? Will I wake up one day and be Mark Gatiss? Are we all Mark Gatiss?
I'm Mark Gatiss and so is my wife
Mark Gatiss and Nicholas Briggs shall replace the human race
The greatest evil in the Doctor Who universe is back; oh and The Master is there to
K A M E L I O N ! ! !
That's not Kamelion...its Alexa.
Sounds NOTHING like Kamelion.
This could've meant Kamelion or Mark Gatis lmao
Poor Kamelion always getting the short end of the stick and getting used by the Master again I wonder if this is an origin story for how this universe’s master gets him in The King’s Demons
Master vs Master is always fun.
The Doctor, dead!? The Unbound Master in the main universe!?
Lawrence Gist *cough* *cough* The War Master: Anti Genesis.
@@radioactivecheesenowinnucl4746 That wrote itself out of time.
@@radioactivecheesenowinnucl4746 he got sent back at the end of it though
@@EditedAF987 it’s never explained where he got sent to only that he was caught up in the ripples of reality changing looks like we will find out!
I..... AM..... THE..... MASTER
I quite like "I've got bigger fish to kill".
Is it me (as Terry Wogan used to say) but it seems impossible that the 50th anniversary of the Master’s debut is here, so comparatively soon after the golden jubilee of the show itself.
Only eight years had passed between Hartnell emerging from the gloom of Totters Lane and Pertwee collapsing into the heather and the arms of Unit.
It’s not just that there was a vast difference in the show, but society itself had changed almost beyond recognition in the intervening years.
The worlds of 1963 and 1971 seem utterly unconnected, by time or space.
Perhaps it’s my age, but in comparison 2013 seems just a large amount of yesterday’s ago, it’s zeitgeist no different to now.
I was 7 when "Day of the Doctor" came out. Now I'm turning 17, yet DotD seems like it was only a few years ago. Time flies.
I'm guenuenly more excited for this than Christmas!
did it live up to your expectations ?
@@Joseph-uo3mx Yes
Just the one or all of them?
Gattiss as Master?! niiiicccees
He’s probably the luckiest Doctor Who Fan ever
@@youtubeaccount697 Other than Tennant and Capaldi.
It's nothing new
Yes, since 2003. His first story as the Master has David Warner as the Doctor, Nick Courtney and the Brigadier and David Tennant as a very unpleasant UNIT officer.
@@jbcatz5 Well that is just messed up, isn't it? 🤣
the 9th Doctor will met the 10th Master who will be be played by Simon Pegg.
Sounds good, I’ve had it on preorder, so looking forward to it.
Well I wasn't expecting that
I think 2019, 2020 and 2021 are going to be the year where we celebrate the villains of our stories and maybe even turn them into dark anti-heroes, at best.
any chance of more 5th Doctor/Tegan/Turlough/Kamelion stories in a future box set release?
Yeah I also enjoyed that TARDIS crew as well as especially since Kamelion gives a companion with uniquely alien properties to the story that never got explored in the show
CALL ME BY MY NAME!!!
Ironically, for an Impressionist Jon Culshaw has he most distinctive voice I've ever heard. Yet another reason why not only do I disagree with him playing beloved Who characters, but I disagree with Big Finish going through a phase of constantly hiring the same people for every production (Dan Starkey, Jon Culshaw...)
I agree. Jon Curlshaw can do a good Tom Baker but with Pertwee and the rest he is only good at one aspect of the characters. For example, when he tries to imitate Ainley he focuses on that scene in the Five Doctors where The Master greets Chancellor Flavia and Burusa. With Pertwee he is only good when Pertwee says " What you take me for old chap?". With the Brigadier he is only good when the Brigadier is yelling. Like "Sargent Benton!". The results are characters that sometimes sound similar to the original actors because he is only good at certain characterizations. With Kamelion there's no effort. It sounds like Curlshaw with a robotic voice.
He doesn't even attempt to sound like Gerald Flood as Kamelion and has turned the character into a totally bland and nondescript Alexa.
Brilliant! Question: Is Gatiss supposed to be his universes equivalent of Delgado or a proper regeneration from him?
Alternate universe
It’s implied he comes after his universe’s equivalent of Delgado. The story begins with the master regenerating after a crash and it’s revealed that he’s already lived through the Pertwee years (just minus the Pertwee, or any Doctor for that matter)
@@EditedAF987 thank you. He's very much like delgado.
Loved this!
As well as making me glad I ordered Masterful, I now have visions of the Unbound Master v the Fifth Doctor, a story I didn't know I needed until now.
Clearly between this and Master! it will be a fantastic 2021.
Don't forget "War Master Vol. 6: Killing Time"...
@@edwinsoto6932 Completely agree!
The War Master range is arguably the most consistent, with gems like The Sky Man littering the collection.
On TV, the 2023 60th Anniversary will also be exactly 50 years since the LAST appearance and sad loss of Roger Delgado - the Original, you might say. A multi Doctor / multi Master story for the 60th?
Tennant, Smith, Capaldi, Whittaker, and the 14th Doctor vs Jacobi, Simm, Gomez, Dhawan, and a cgi Delgado cameo...
Because these characters have got history
Let tv do whatever, the big finish anniversary should be spectacular
@@youtubeaccount697 Big finish do better anniversary specials imo
@@Super_Mario128 thinking of Light at the end
But also at least Eccleston and McGann if they would be willing...plus the other Classic Doctors should have a role, even if somewhat reduced
@@eclecticdog2k901 I get where you're coming from. But I feel that trying to crowbar in proactive cameo's of all the classic Who actors - another "no Sir, all thirteen" style moment - would look like just a rehash of The Day of the Doctor. Maybe a nostalgic montage showing previous encounters might work? Likewise, onscreen Tennant can just about convince us he's the same guy these days - McGann definitely can - but Eccleston? No way. Got to suspend a whole lot of disbelief there, or use some fancy schmancy de-aging tech to pull it off (can't wait for him on audio, though, omg :).
I suppose having the older Doctors play different, alternate universe roles might work, as part of some dastardly Master-plan... but that's getting a bit Zagreus (which I really enjoyed btw).
I do appreciate you joining in with the spirit of the OP though. Unlike some... I mean, I get that this is a Big Finish safe-place right here. But surely the words "anniversary" and "multi-Master" carry further than audio only! The Light at the End was a valiant effort. The Legacy of Time did it better. Masterful will be my first BF of the New Year, to join the almost 300 (and rising) I already own on download-only... If the TV version can do the 60th even half as well as BF undoubtedly will, I'll be happy :)
2:04 - Doom door opening sound!!
Round two between the unbound master and the war master who will succeed
Well thats a turn up for the books
Plus the Master is not always evil.
I AM READY!
14th Master:I am the Master and you will obey me hahahahahaha
Omg yusss 🥺😱
I wonder where Mark Gatis fits in with
The other incarnations 🤔🤔🤔
he's an Unbounded universe Master
He’s an alternate universe Master, specifically an alternate take on the Delgado Master.
@@jbcatz5 thanks for the information man!!!! So he's a parallel to delgado
Harveyc_05 Harveyc_05 He debuts in the Doctor Who Unbound story Sympathy for the Devil (also in the cast is some chap called David Tennant, didn’t get anything bigger), reappearing in the third volume of The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield and The War Master: Anti-Genesis.
@@jbcatz5 He's the regeneration after, when the Delgado Master was fatally injured in a plane crash.
@bigfinishprod is there an actual title for this short type of prequel story. The current given title is a bit wonky.
The 9th Master is not yet seen but however many actors are chosen including also Tom Hindleston.
It might possible to be played by none other than Martin Freeman who also played John Watson in Sherlock for the 9th one
.....😱🤯🎉 Oh glob! I can't wait.
I’ll pre ordered the limited edition mouths ago I can’t wait
is there is just a hint of Professor Nebulous, in this incarnation of the Master?
Likely
Why do some of the Unbound Master's lines shake around from left to mid stereo field? It's very distracting :/ Please make the recordings mono in the edit?
Probably because he’s walking
Sunset Shimmer
Andrew Scott was kicked out of choice due to his role as James Moriarity in Sherlock.
So this is not a body stolen instead an incarnation and no crispy Master in this alternate universe.
So I haven’t heard a single story where Mark Gatiss is the Master so could someone explain to me what’s is part in all of this? And don’t be shy to spoil it for me 😊
Alternative universe
He was an alternative universe Master. It's my understanding he comes directly after alternative universe Delgado. His Doctor is David Warner.
Obscure, AU, OC, Master from a near 20 years old story, and the character iteration was on ice until about two years ago when he started popping up in other BF ranges.
@@CardCaptorDeadpool I don't know how obscure he is as far as Big Finish goes. The Unbound Stories were one of the first things I heard about Big Finish doing.
I believe he started in a story with Benny when she gets stuck in an au. She finds her way back. The Master follows shorty after. Even "helping" the Jacobi Master when he does
No doubt it'll be a Masterful release (groans).
Already Pre-ordered.
Well looks like this production is now cursed considering they brought Kamelion in it. Fun while it lasted guys.
Is this suppost to be an alternate Tremas who is an incarnation of the Master?
ordered 😀😀😀
I am the 14th Master and you will obey me for good
13th actually but one i preassume îs 14th Bruce one more similar with Sunset
Someone put this on Derpibooru please just featuring a Rarity Shimmer.
ooh alt-master
the 11th Doctor will have 20th Master although another one will come and it will lekely be the 9th Master in crossover.
This one again Sunset Shimmer 14th Master Sonata Shimmer
So make the Master like a space James Bond instead?
The amount of people who have never seen Gatiss' Master or think this is Gatiss' first time as tbe Master 😂
To be fair, most of his appearances thus far as The Master have been under a pseudonym. Peeps probably wondering why Big Finish haven't brought back Sam Kisgart 😁
@@anealingfeeling5356 He hasn't been Sam Kisgart since he returned in the New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield, though.
@@TheSixthDoctor just a joke, I was joking.
@@anealingfeeling5356 I am growing very tired of people claiming to be joking when they were simply wrong.
I think he’s the only actor to portray both Master and Doctor.
Master: canonical but alternate.
Doctor: parody but brilliant in 1999 - Doctor Who Night, where there’s also a sketch that’s basically the plot of “An Adventure in Space and Time” condensed into 5 minutes
In crossover i am redeemed this one no more evil plans the Covid 19th changed me not torule in evil way or doing evil things though i kinda have that evil laugh sometimes.
k look a him bf
whats it about the doctor and master and having rubbish robot servants.