Gojushiho-Dai Commentary
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- This video explains and demonstrates the kata Gojushiho-Dai. In the SKIF school of Shotokan 'Dai' and 'Sho' are opposite to the JKA style. Please don't be confused. The kata is demonstrated step by step with explanation and commentary.
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The Kata is called Gojushiho- Dai in SKIF, it is not wrong. It depends on what organization you train with. I spent ten years training full time in Japan and know Kanazawa Hirokazu Soke personally, without doubt he is the number one senior Master of Shotokan alive today and his knowledge is immense.
To all those who are confused with the Dai and Sho switch, in the Shotokan International Federation under Kanazawa, Koncho this form is designated as Dai. In the JKA they would call is Sho, this Sensei is with the SKIF organization so he should demonstrate it as Dai, if he did not he would not be following the curriculum of this organization. I hope this answers all the confusion of JKA & SKIF - Dai and Sho forms. The Why part of the questions should be asked of Kanazawa himself, if one really finds this interesting, or just practice your organizations Dai and Sho interpretations and follow your path to excellence.
It is funny - Mr. Walker even talks about the difference at the beginning of the video and still so many comments that he got it wrong :-D
@@talaniel They're brain dead.
It's written at the beginning, he says it out loud, and anyone who's been doing Shotokan for more than six months knows about the Dai and Sho version of Gojushiho being the other way round for some folks.
Very nice walk through as always. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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thank you very much for helping me with every kata in the S.K.I.F Shotokan system, god bless you
Excelente didática de ensino dos Katas Shotokan, sempre mostrando em diversos ângulos os detalhes.
Sensei, Thank you for posting this video, and all your other videos. They are all a great learning resource. ~rj USKL
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Hello, when do you will put more videos of karate, this videos help a lot. tks.
Nicely explained.
very helpful and clear thank you 👍
I don't understand why is opposite in Skif.. in WKF federation this is "Sho"
Rumor has it that Sensei Kanazawa got it wrong in a competition and after that he decided to change the order. In my opinion, that is just ridiculous...
Gojūshiho Shō and Gojūshiho Dai are two versions in Shotokan of the Shōrin-ryū kata called Useishi (54) or Gojūshiho. The oft-repeated story about the JKA having to rename the Gojushiho kata due to a tournament mix-up; and Kanazawa Hirokazu, because of his seniority, keeping the original names in his SKIF organisation is without foundation. In fact, Kanazawa is on record [1]as saying that when he formed SKIF he changed the names of the two kata as he felt that the “sho” designation suited the smaller, more difficult, kata better. Kanazawa also mentioned that this kata was introduced into the JKA before its sibling, and this explained why the JKA decided to call it “dai” when they introduced the second Gojushiho into the syllabus.
@@sandrapatriciaoriguarios4589 That rumour was about a different instructor, NOT Kanazawa.
Who knows, and more importantly, who cares.
Excelente, from Brasil
This is Gojushiho Sho in JKA!
I've learned this kata as Gojushiho-sho.
thank you for the video, but the sound quality is lacking when compared to the rest of your channel, you should keep that in mind.
Osu
+Paulo Lippi same i have I learned this kata as Gojushiho-sho.
If we watch international karate tournaments, this is Gojushiho Dai. 🙏 He clearly explained in the beginning.
@@MSadique007 . .
Big 54 Steps (Gojushiho Dai). Many styles of Shorin Ryu (like Matsubayashi) just simply call it Gojushiho. Shotokan's Gojushiho Sho is somewhat similar to the Kobayashi Shorinkan version (though there is a technique similar to the Matsubayashi version).
Sensei kata oss
Oss sensei
Can anyone provide the solid reason why this confusion, what is the history or the reason it is practiced opposite? I mean most of the competitions above performed is Gojushiho Sho, but here it is stated Gojushiho Dai
This is what I have been informed by my sensei's when discussing the difference in naming.
"It was called out incorrectly on first performance & the JKA did not correct it to "save face", when Soke kanazawa broke away he went back to the original convention."
johnny lonergan Its Sho in every other Organization as well...
Also this Kata exists way longer than the JKA or even Shotokan itself
Otherwise it would be Goju-yon ho instead of shi ho just like the modern Heian/Pinan Yondan in which the new term Yon is used for the number four instead of shi.
So the name most likely reaches back way further though it still can be true as there is no real knowledge when the two Katas where melted thoghter for the first time and therefore had to be called dai and sho but i think both of them exist in Shorin-Ryu as well
I can only forward what i was thought by my sensei ! and his direct training under soke kanazawa.
Two katas of Gojushiho gojushiho dai n gojushiho sho
It's not a "confusion".
Just different people calling the same thing by a different name. Happens all the time for all sorts of things.
bueno un buen kata sistema skif del maestro kanazaea sensei osu
oss sensey bu gojushiho sho
OSS!
This is obviously Gojushiho Sho in JKA!
Yes; and?
Wery.kolye.faide.sense.thanks.
This is Gojushiho sho not dai,Dai does comes with a Ippon nukithe attack not yohon nukithe
You can't read.
this is gojushiho-sho kata .you must be careful thanks.
You must learn to read and listen.
Thanks.
this is gojushiho-sho. .. not "dai" also, please put what type of organization you're in so we wont be confused.. please.. thanks
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
gojushiho-sho!
não gojushiho-dai
Yes não gojushiho daï
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
oss sensey buradakıkata ayrı sızın katanız ayrı neden ??
This is gojiusho sho and not dai ! I have been tought from sensei Shirai and Kase who came from Funakoshi's Shotokan original school. And in JKA that is the naming too.
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
You said it is gojushi sho dai and this is gojushi sho 😡
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
No , its gojushiho sho, not gojushiho dai
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
Esa is gojushi sho nou gojushiho dai
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
Thank you for sharing your knowlage, but this is godjoshihu SHO, i also comented on godjoshuhu "sho" video tutorial, and its mistaken for godjishiho dai, so please try not to mix those two kata, bc just the namw being mastaken changes A LOT
Think you
Dai
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Please, try to learn to read.
That is sho and not dai.
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
Il s'agit de GOJUSHIHO-SHO ...Désolée!
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It's not Gojoshio dai.
🤡
This kata is called gojushiho sho
What's your mom called?
Gojushiho sho
What about it?
Sir this is gojushiho sho.. I think so
You can't read (I think so).
This is not Gojoshio dai
Learn to read.
this is sho not dai
sinse
oss
Try having your eyes and your ears checked.
Or maybe the problem's with the brain (or lack thereof).
make sure u know witch kata you are teaching in this video u r teaching gojushiho-sho not dai not trying to be rude but just letting u know
+max krause there's actually a confusion on which is dai and which is sho.
this one is originally dai.
The name change seems to have happened sometime in the 1960s or 1970s when a high-ranking JKA instructor announced 'Gojūshiho Dai' and then performed Gojūshiho Shō at the All-Japan Karate Championships. Due to his high rank, nobody dared question him about this hence why all Shotokan Karate Schools who Originate from the JKA use the reversed names.
but Kanazawa sensei refused to change the original names, and then, schools originating from SKIF still use the original names.
because of that, either name you use is actually right, it mosty depends on the origins of your school.
Guy...did you listen to the audio? He pointed out in the beginning that it depends on your organization.
+max krause He spent the first several minutes of the video addressing this very issue!
He also mentioned that in the description. Some commenters did not read before commenting.
Imagine having to call a kata by the wrong name just to save face for your head instructor. Even the school Kanazawa came from (JKA) calls it Dai. This is a classic example of the sheep mentality of those studying Japanese karate.
Global Fugitive that pretty rude of you. What katas have you posted. Shameful.