Dale Vince: The Conservatives made Climate Change a culture war issue
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- Founder of Britain’s first renewable energy supplier. An OBE, a champion of electric vehicle charging and a campaigner.
Dale Vince is one of the principal voices in today's climate dialogue.
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What a brilliant guy Dale is. His arguments are blindingly obvious - so why does the current government not see it.
They know. They just don't care. Why would they? It's only poor people that are going to suffer. Who cares what they think? It's not like they were going to vote Tory after the last 13 years anyway.
They do see it, but it's the tory leadership deciding that their best hope is stoking up the culture wars. Literally tricking the uninformed public into accepting their disingenuous arguments that somehow "the lefty woke" and Labour are trying to force everyone to accept a so called "green agenda" that they claim isn't needed and will ruin the country and cost billions. More "us and them" like Brexit except this time the woke are the bogey man, the enemy that only they can save us from.
Because the Cons are manned by free market fools.
If he is so brilliant why doesn't he call out the corruption? Why say I can't believe blah blah blah... he has good teeth... He knows money talks.
@@jaynfontain6635 you are casting the corruption net wide, anything in particular?
On shore wind farms now, solor on all new houses and factories.... if we had been doing this for the last 10 years.
yep, are energy bills would be even higher.
@@jim-es8qk So the hike in gas prices didn't , how did British Gas make nearly a billion in a year. Was it from selling gas at inflated prices?
@@waynecartwright-js8twThey bought all the raw gas in advance and took advantage of the higher spot prices.
@@jim-es8qk Ignorant and proud of it, fool.
@@jim-es8qk Of course energy produced at home is way more expensive than gas or oil priced by international markets. I too would much rather have an Arab or an American determine the price of my energy than having someone in Britain pricing energy for a British energy market.
I'm so glad I am a Ecotricity customer...we need more people like Dale Vince.
Just what the world needs is more grifters 👌
this bloke has his head screwed on and talks a lot of truths
Yeah, problem is that "we're done with experts" though. Another tory innovation, ignorant and bizarrely proud of it, all in the name of some idiotic culture wars ideology.
Do you know he is pro-hamas are you OK with that..
@@vincentblack7467That's a lie.
@@vincentblack7467 That was Stop Oil
He talks a lot of nonsense and makes a lot of money out of the status quo. More green is more black in his bank account.
How naive are you 🤦
I totally agree with Dale. After the ridiculous announcement about gas power stations, I wrote to my (Conservative) MP saying exactly what Dale is saying here. The sooner the Tories are out of office, the better.
So when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine I can light you up for warmth?
@@williamsulman2646 Alongside wind and solar production, there will be a need for storage of energy. A good example is Australia, where they are installing a lot of battery storage. The two have to go hand in hand. It's ridiculous to support an energy system that, if not stopped, will make this world uninhabitable for my grandchildren. Investing in renewable energy can stop that becoming a reality. It's a no-brainer.
@philreilly6959 then you pay for it for your grandkids! My generation can't afford to feed ourselves let alone have kids.
How about you pay 50 percent extra for your energy because I don't agree to paying 25 percent extra on mine.
@williamsulman2646 Times are hard for everyone. I'm a pensioner, so I'm not exactly rolling in money, but I want to do what it takes to give everybody, including you, a decent future rather than a horrendous one. I don't know where you have got your information from, but it sounds like you think that if the country invests in renewable energy, then it will be extra for you to pay.
The fossil fuel industry keeps telling everybody that it will cost more, but it's not true. The cheapest form of energy in the world today is Wind energy, followed by Solar energy. Gas powered power stations are more expensive to run.
The problem at the moment is that all energy has to charge whatever the international price for gas is set at. That's why our energy bills are so high. Even though half of the energy used in this country comes from renewables, which are cheap and getting cheaper all the time, the whole of our energy prices are set by the price of gas. The government are supposed to be looking at getting a fairer system, but they're not rushing.
So that's why our energy costs are so high and why they'll stay that way for years to come if more gas powered power stations are built.
So more investment in renewables (which would be paid for by private companies) would result in you having to pay much less for your energy while at the same time helping to cut global warming. Don't believe the fossil fuel industry who say the opposite is true, they have been lying to us for half a century. They knew back then that their products would cause global warming, but they hid the truth. And they're lying now because they want to carry on making massive profits at our expense.
So I understand your frustration and anger at the way things are at the moment and I share that. But the fault doesn't lie with renewable energy, it lies with the fact that the government are putting in place policies that will carry on hitting your pocket (and mine!!!)
@philreilly6959 no your not sharing my frustrations.
I'm 37 and working class and we are being taxed out of existence to pay for your pensions and nhs care.
The last thing I wanna hear is that we need to go back to the stone age to stop the worrys of people who quite frankly have nothing to worry about!
Wind turbines made In China by coal powered station's to make the western pearl clutching middle classes feel a bit better. So then they can write comments online about how virtuous you are on a phone made by slave's again in China who are not going to stop burning coal so whatever we do on this tiny island it makes no difference anyway.
So how are you going to save your grandkids? Your calling for a future of complete poverty because we've spent all are money on green impoverishment. China and India continue to industrialise and burn whatever they feel like for fuel.
I switched to Ecotricity a long time ago & I can happily recommend Dale Vince's company to anyone.
Climate change denial (or at least scepticism) is actually pretty common amongst people on the political right, it's crazy.
People unable to do basic research on your side is just plain concerning. How many times a day are you sold magic beans? Vince is a con man.
Great interview Ava👍
This guy should be Prime Minister. Simple as.
Yup he knows how to line his own pockets before he's even got the job 👌
Yep, a lying huxter and snake oil salesman, he fits the bill.
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Hugh Fernley Wittingstall,George Monbiot,and Dale Vince.heroes.and Fergal Sharkey.Lowkey.is another and Peter Oborne
Yup they are like fireman aren't they. Risking their lives every day.
Oh hang on I think you spelt hero wrong there I spell it with a c.
@@williamsulman2646 cero‽ 🤨
@@LimeyRedneck no, cu*t
@@robertjsmith wow that was the best comeback ever. Do you do a bit of comedy on the side?
Excellent interview and nice to have someone who is genuine, sincere and cares about our future. Have been with Ecotricity for quite a few years now and see no reason whatsoever to change.
Sunak is probably getting a backhand or free shares so he can count his money more.
Highly unlikely that he's getting backhanders, far more likely that he wants to keep the job.
He certainly is?
@@symmo1969 corrupt to the core I bet
@allenjenkins-xd5ui he should be in a cell with his mate Johnson
There's no "probably" about it, it's a racing certainty.
Sunaks extended family has done a deal with Israel and BP for Gas and oil exploration in Gaza and of the coast of Palestine
Billions in oil and gas was discovered a decade or so ago by a British oil exploration company.
@@grumpy-dad3701 and Sunaks extended family 3 months ago signed deals with the Israeli government and BP for drilling and extraction in Palestine and of the coast , what part of the corruption are you missing
Israel government gave the contract to Sunak’s wife’s company as the Israeli government is forcefully clearing Palestinian settlements ergo, Sunak is profiting from war and infosys still operates out of pootin’s moscow as well, without sanctions. Thereby profiting from war….
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Thanks for this, I really enjoyed it. Shame it's not a longer interview!
Im very happy with Ecotricity as an energy supplier. Im hoping their green gas schemes will get traction because I live in a new build house with a new boiler so it seems wasteful to rip it out to replace with a heat pump. Also, there is nowhere to put a heat pump in my house because its tiny.
the heat pump is installed outside
@@tonycollyweston6182 not all of it - there is equipment that needs to go inside as well. I only have 1 cupboard and from the pictures I've seen, it's not big enough. And I'm not sure I even have room outside either. I think the outside part would have to hang off the side of the house? I've heard they can become noisy over time. Not a problem if it's at the bottom of a large garden. Not so great in a tiny terrace. I would actually love one as I think you can run them in reverse to cool the house in the summer but I really don't think it's feasible for me.
you are very correct, I was thinking about the outside unit.
@@tonycollyweston6182 if they are as good as people say they are then they should be mandatory to integrate into all new builds. My house is only 3 years old so I'm a bit miffed it didn't have one already. And why not solar panels too? Missed opportunity. The cost to me would be a lot less if it was part of the initial build. Even with loans and schemes I would really struggle to fit these now I've bought it.
Dale's a legend. Convoy style ✊
@19:51 If only we had a party who's sole objective was to be green, what could we call them... ?
Exactly! I like Dale, but fcuk New Nu-Labour!!
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Who no one has ever voted for.
@@williamsulman2646 apart from last may in Mid Suffolk. 57% in all seats and we now run the District Council 24 green 6 Con 4 Lib Dem.
Having worked in the powder coatings industry it is ver easy to change the colour of wind turbine. Some of the products I worked on were paints that look like wood which were common for buildings in cypress.
I may be wrong, but isn't the timeline: Sunak has meeting (without Minutes) with Shell executives at Downing Street, Sunak grants licences to permit gas/oil drilling, Sunak announces new gas-fired power stations? The power stations will take at least five years to develop and then we are subject to global fluctuations in fossil fuel prices and out goes net-zero. Meanwhile there are huge numbers of Planning Applications for battery storage (check it). Go for 'em Dale!
Read the book Manifesto, It is an interesting story, and comes to good conclusions. Dale Vince is a man who puts his money where his mouth is. He was a lead in the 'Electric Highway' , a project that got Electric Vehicles onto the main roads, and was run at a financial loss for several years.
Ecotricity has become my supplier of choice, a choice I have never regretted.
He puts his money where he knows gullible people will follow.
this could also be further complemented by generating power with sewage and being currently all water companies need to invest in sewage treatment it would be a great time to do this through HTC or biodigester processes or any of the variants.
Methane.
Great interview Dale. So much sense, well explained.
The man who is destroying a football club. 🤣🤣🤣
Windmills are whimsical! 🤩
What a choice: Concrete towers bleaching out poison, or hopeful windmills‽‽
Letting people decide to buy an electric car at their leisure isn't a solution to anything.
He does supports Labour through a large donation and hasn't criticized their cut in spending for green projects. I would have hoped he challenged them more particulary as the cut came because of donation from a climate skeptic.
This Green Gin was a tonic.
I agree with you 100% Dale. The Tories have damaged the country in more ways than they can understand. We have the potential to remedy things and get the country moving in the right direction again. We need to get out to vote and change things for the better.
it's far more difficult to profiteer off renewables than fossil fuels
It’s the massive subsidies they’re after.
There is a genuine problem that we get week-long wind droughts during winter. To solve it we'd need about 6Twh if energy storage, so probably a lot more pumped hydro.
Otherwise we'll be trapped with gas back-up.
Small scale nuclear with the newer, safer reactor designs can easily plug that gap.
@@englishsteve1465 We tried small scale nuclear in the 1950s-1960s, and the smart engineers quickly worked out that you get a lot more power by making the parts slightly bigger. Hence why almost all modern reactors are about 1GW. So I'm in favour of big modular reactors.
Just look at the SMRs being proposed in the UK. Their 300MW light water reactors: Essentially 1960s reactors. That's fine with me, perfectly safe and green. But the bigger reactors are more economical.
Dale has large back up batteries installed. Large batteries are much more developed with a greater capacity for storage. So this problem is well on its way to being solved.
We do get periods of lower wind speeds true, but this is in my view an exaggerated problem. It is windy (or windy enough somewhere in uk for wind production at all times) Wind production data available via national grid iamkate Never is wind production zero. If not windy here it will be windy elsewhere and we can use that and energy via interconnections to the continent and other sources of energy.
@@davidedwards4691 I've looked at the data for wind power output. We regularly get week-long periods of only a few GWs of wind power .(Remember that wind power output is the cube of the speed, so a small drop in speed can produce a large drop in output.)
And it's not exaggerated because we simply don't have any technology to cheaply store Twhs of electricity. Batteries are fine for a few hours, but not days, and definitely not weeks.
Pumped hydro/compressed air could work, but the upfront investment is massive.
We need to admit its a massive problem because, if we don't solve it, we'll end up stuck with gas peaker plants.
Shame he doesn't want to be a politician. The real power is in the lobby.
Unelected PM presiding over a ship of fools, good call. ❤
I buy green electricity - and it’s more expensive than fossils. Auctions of new wind capacity involve subsidies to guarantee prices. Plus we just auctioned off a lot of Backup Power generation to the dirtiest of fossil generators to balance out the grid so we can use green energy - those subsidies will be added to bills too. I am a staunch supporter of green energy but I still fail to see how and when it actually ends up cheaper than fossils. Probably we should end the subsidies for fossils first?
Apart from the defence of Keef's 'economics' and New Nu-Labour generally, loved all Dale said!!! 🤠💚
One statement within this entire interview should inform the entire UK population about how successful the Tory privatisation ideology has been! That is how much we pay for the fossil fuel that we harvest from our own North Sea oil and gas fields! The next crisis is going to be the availability of drinking water seeing as we skld that to foreign interests
Well, English water was sold off. Scotlands is still publicly owned and maintained. Not sure about Wales and NI.
The SNP will create the greatest Green economy in Europe.
Turbines.... They're turbines...
I wouldn’t worry mate, he won’t be in power to implement them anyway. 😆
The issue of NIMBYism is a definition that is an actual thing relating to place-identity, it is important to take these issues into account when forming planning descisions. Developers will always have problems with so it is important that consensus building in local communities is part of the planning system which is something that does not exist at the present time. Personally I am not a fan of on-shore wind but the public do find it acceptable.
Disagree on Labour becoming green - labour has a poor track record on the environment this especially under the war mongerer TB who u-turned on all those public transport projects which we were promised in the mid-1990s.
I really appreciated this but I wish Just Stop Oil had been smarter. Their protesting methods did more harm than good to the green cause IMO as people don't want to be likened to them & their movement has become a weapon to be wielded as a criticism by anyone that's not pro-green.
2nd Hand EVs are now relatively cheap so for 10k you could buy a car that will last 6 or 7 years.
You are saving (£50pw x 50 weeks) £2,500 a year in fuel so its costing you NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.
Mad how many people haven't realised the economics of this yet. I've been in my i3 for 5 years, it's cost me less to own and run than I would have spent on diesel alone in my old car.
@@SeanPowell That won't last for ever though. Enjoy while it lasts cos at some point the government is gonna need to claw back the loss in fuel duty.
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This. Anyone thinking they’ve done well will be the next tax target for Sunak and Co….
A second hand ev has the risk of the batteries needing replacement, as much as the value of the car basically give or take a grand or so
It hurts
Why does Dale keep saying "windmills"? When was the last time a windmill was built?
Those "wind turbines" you see are actually milling grain into flour, so it's correct to call the "Windmills". The flour is then transferred to a Grain Reconstitution Facility where heat is released upon blending with water. This heat is used to turn water into steam which drives turbines to generate electricity.
😂 lets Bowie to the Green Genie. Had my first try at a vegan pie at FGR. His ethics, ideas and follow through actions make me think about things I wouldn't normally consider but, he makes things sound so simple it makes me nervous. I'm an action coward 😊
The fossil fool is so good ha
Hero
I offered Dale the opportunity to create a carbon negative fuel 15 years ago. We could have made a real difference by now. He turned it down because he felt I was rushing him. I was going through a family break up at the time.
Big fan of Dale but haven’t really heard much in terms of green policy from Labour & doesn’t sound like they get the metacrisis at all with their talk of “growth” 🙄🤷♂️
A 4kw domestic solar PV array with batteries, pays for itself within 5 years at current grid prices. After that it provides the home with 4000kwh a year for FREE for the next 20+ years.
Put another way that is 2p per kwh over 25 years.
But you won't see Rishi nor Dale pushing for that.
They want centralised energy with big energy companies making obscene profits - charging 30p for something that costs them 2p.
What are we to do, vote.... for who? labour? 😂
Don't forget geothermal the greatest source of renewable energy is under our feet ,a Canadian company ,eavor is about to bring base load geothermal to the world the technology is coming on line very soon
What happens when the wind stops? There is a war on and imported European gas is very expensive.
The important thing here is energy storage which appears to just be overlooked.
or the sun doesn't shine ? Can we only solar charge from 10am to 2pm (4 hours)? then only drive in the morning and at night ?
@@David-bi6lfEnergy storage? It doesn't exist.
@@Carlos-im3hnI live in the North. I haven't seen the sun since September.
Or if it blows in the other direction and causes the windmill to turn the wrong way innit.
Anyone else get a real "Labour can do no wrong" vibe from this guy?
I'll bet this guys in for a rude awakening if Starmers Labour wins...
Until Labour say they will rescind the North Sea Oil & Gas licences then both parties are the exact same
Truly you asurred me that after giving your natural herbal medications to my autistic son he will be fine, after 21 days he speaks better thanks to Doctor isibor.❤
How old are you child?
The sun isn’t always shining so we can no longer be always consumers
‘Big wind’ and ‘big solar’ are not green in any way…quite the opposite in fact.
They're ensuring the future. Green energy doesn't pump out the numbers the nation needs. Plus our contribution is almost negligible compared to total emissions.
He's wrong about the current state of the electric cars. Currently the cost to charge a car is deerer per mile than it is per mile in diesel or and efficient petrol.
It's only cheaper if you home charge which isn't possible for most, especially those living in high rise buildings or terraced houses.
Electric cars also cost roughly a third more than their petrol equivalents and degrade must faster too. Both down to the batteries with them pushing up the price and how they degrade over time.
These issues need solving before more aggressively pushing people into those vehicles.
If the cost of energy is reduced, electric charge points are more heavily regulated and the battery problems are solved we can move to electric vehicles with no drawbacks.
@AegisK depends on where you live, if there's no provision on site for car charging then you're at the mercy of the expensive, unregulated public charge points.
@AegisK that's really good to hear, if everyone works together like that we'll get to a place where EVs aren't something only those better off can afford much quicker. We'll all be better off for it too.
i have a 14 year old diesel car which is now worth more than what i paid for it. EV car hustle is a hype train with the wheels beginning to fall off.
Is Dale's POV biased at all 🤔
As apposed to Sunak's POV being unbiased? Is that what you're saying?
There's no one who is unbiased
As someone who works in the green energy sector, whilst some of his sentiment is correct, his facts (and answers) are extremely misguided
He is a partisan hack
Partisan hack.
normal people can't affort automobiles as they are, let alone "throw away" $$$$EVs. Cost of tires ? Cost of disposal ? EVs heavy 2x weight ?
Abit rich when labour want net-zero sooner which will destroy us.
This guy seems to be out of tuch on a few points i suspect he has a vaesed intrest in wind turbines. People have started to work out that so caled renuable enegy is not what we are being brainwashed to beleeve. Nucaler power is by far the best option.
This interview is awful. He makes all these claims, does not back it up even with his 30 decades worth and the woman asks him such dumb questions anyway. Forget the bloody politics and lets talk engineering. How are we going to do it and if you think it is wrong, how would you do it? Remember the wind does not blow all the time. What about the grid? What about storage? What about using thorium or SMR technology?
Truly you asurred me that after giving your natural herbal medications to my autistic son he will be fine, after 21 days he speaks better thanks to Doctor isibor.❤