Do you know anything about this episode challenges and the bright dust pile? All sources show this is the last week of challenges but we are far under the requirement needed.
Ay this point, Bungie should have a rotating team of people in Trials and Comp every week checking for blatant cheaters. And get a refund for that Battle Eye.
Man I wish Bungie would publish a list of all the cheaters that got banned. And the reason I want Bungie to publish a list of all the cheaters is because it happens a lot that a player accuse another player of cheating and in most cases it's more of a skill issue why that person accuses another player of cheating. And if that person is on the ban list that was accused of cheating by that person, then the person who made that accusation is not a noob or anything. And I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, if Bungie did that, it wouldn't be illegal to do that, because the developers of The First Descendants do that, they publish a list of all cheaters that have been banned.
Bungie needs to improve the speed of their cheater detection. Once detected while in a match, that cheater should either experience auto death. If a teammate revives that cheater, then it just keeps that cheater cycling through deaths/rez, death/rez so they just give up...or make their weapons do zero damage.
@@Mugiwara2k More so that this action of the ban wave coincidentally came after DMG matched with a cheater. It may or may not have been the case, but it just looks sketchy on paper that the ban wave came AFTER that incident.
@@kristiansimon7511 I don’t see how it’s sketchy. He matched with a cheater, and banned him as a result. Bungie can’t know of every single cheater (there’d be none if they could) and some of the cheats they use now can bypass their anti-cheat security. It only makes sense that he’d ban one when he sees it with his own eyes.
@@Mugiwara2k And you’re absolutely right, that is true and you’re not wrong. What I’m saying is in the eyes of some others, people will see this as Bungie only banning people when it affects them. This is probably not true, but based on the timing, it comes off this way.
dmg is just a CM. he plays quite frequently actually. He does trials pretty often too. He talks about it on his personal twitter lol. People are so damn butthurt apparently about it too that he stumbled into a cheater while he was playing. It was inevitable, regardless of how hard they push to deal with them, they're going to slip through the cracks no matter what, the only looming threat they have against them is the fact that a lot of these cheat distributers are slowly getting pinched. This narrative is so passe it's not even funny. I'm not even trying to defend Bungie in any real sense. The community is just that fking stupid.
@@BeeBeeBeeLolThey'll hate you, but you speak the truth. The community will take no accountability, but is at least partially responsible for this mess. The community can ask for something, get it, then spit it out like a spoiled brat because nobody actually agrees on what they want. I don't think it's possible to please this community.
The changing name thing makes sense lmao. I had a hunch people were doing that. Seen someone's name change a few times in crucible & they were trying to trip me out. Seen my IRL name a couple times. It makes sense that would happen from how much I used to play crucible. It's crazy that people are still able to cheat to that extent with how much tech is out to prevent that from happening. I'm not even mad anymore at cheaters for cheating fr. Makes good content. Wish it would stop tho.
So wait… a bungie employee has to be first impacted by cheating before they actually do something about it ? Um…could we ask then that bungie employees, as part of their 5 day job, play the game 1 of those days . Seems that is the way to get things fixed
Matched a cheater every 3-4 matches over the last weekend. One guy had aimbot, zim/chronus, etc. Did not miss. 92% precision kill rate on hand cannons, 98% precision kills on snipers...you get the idea...and I'm a terrible trials player. And I kept matching with this cheater every few games. I just gave up.
Really glad DMG could come back to D2, just to get something done automatically (after it had to personally affect him) Crazy how they know how to stop the cheats, but decide to soak up paychecks instead.
In my GM, a guy continually teleported through enemies & one shot champions. We couldn't keep up & kept getting pulled. I know ppl say oh its PVE," he had a flawless emblem. Just be safe these hacks can't sit in either content unchecked just in case
This is quite amusing because I bumped into one of those name exploiters in the tower. He had a name that I had tried to use before but couldn't use it because it was offensive 🤣
If I understand correctly, the number of players has to go down so much that a Destiny developer only matches against a cheater once before taking steps against cheaters? So let the number of players go down further, maybe then invest in a proper anti-cheat system. I mean, how can players identify cheaters faster and more accurately than Bungie's anti-cheat system?
Innocents rarely get banned. It only takes 2 minutes to check their Crucible/Trials stats and past games. I do this before reporting players all the time.
People have established non burner steam accounts with YEARS of comments on their profile from people they cheated against complaining about it. Their profile title will be a troll like "Go cry about it." The overwhelming confidence these cheaters have that nothing will be done about their constant cheating is not unfounded.
I'm a geezer who's gone Flawless a couple dozen times and I mostly play Trials for the cosmetics. I stopped taking it seriously once I realized how much RNG kills the matchmaking while cheaters and exploiters run wild in the playlist.
Ive been storylining my new hunter. Still haven't been able to play Vesper and am having trouble with Kells Fall. Am low on cores, prisms, and am in desperate need of acend shards.
So it took a dev to finally experience it themselves for the company to decide it was worth it to start banning these cheaters? The game has been a wreck for years.
I was doing some Gambit with a friend, and we went against someone who was mic banned, most likely he was a cheater but my friend and i didn't pursue the issue and moved on.
Good job Bungie! Can we also ban by association!? Most of these cheaters are just taking ults to flawless and they dont care if they get banned. If you play with cheaters, get BANNNED with them!
Wait I thought they put out an update through battleye that specifically stated of zen and xim software were detected, a softban would be placed on ya, so you'd be forced to play with other softban players instead
That's what they were supposed to do but they never did it. Occasionally they ban someone for a week but since trials is out every week it doesn't really do anything to cheaters in trials
Unfortunately cheaters aren't the only issue in PvP. One of the bigger issues than cheating is player population. (As a use to be sweaty PvP player who doesn't play d2 anymore) I feel for anyone that plays PvP religiously rn as it's gonna feel empty compared to start of last year.
You really missed the story here. DMG would NEVER go flawless without the assistance of streamers. Check his stats. So, while DMG isn't cheating he is using his position within Bungie to be boosted by streamers to flawless. Besides, acting like going flawless is something that doesn't breed cheating is non-sensical. And you apparently only get banned if you offend an actual Bungie employee.
This is a WHOLE different conversation that honestly the community isn't ready for because they honestly don't see how this is scummy. There is a whole community that is ok with this type of behavior.
@@malice4mercy904I was using lightweights months before the buff, but I also use Duality and Cryosthesia. I still have blood on my hands. I will not stoop as low as chaperone.
There's way more cheaters than 1 in 27 matches, and that's because Bungie banned all of us previously loyal customers from playing Trials if we didn't buy the last expansion, thus lowering the non-cheater player count. RIP Bungie.
PlayStation said I broke restrictions and they blocked my party chat and my messages on my console can’t use any well it’s because other people msg me and report me for nothing even though they msg me first and called me names etc
We as a community sending tweets, forums even videos about this begging for it to stop: Nothing Bungie dev live streams Trials and runs into cheaters: Massive ban wave Of course when it affects Bungie they do something lmao haha
The reason i stopped playing is cause of cheaters. Man like not once in d1 or d2 i could have made it to flawless due to cheaters on the last match for a flawless.
I got banned during this. I've never cheated and lack the knowledge to do so. I've played since Beta. Bungie just be banning loyal fans. It's a joke. All my progression gone.
So, realistically the slow banning is to prevent hackers from figuring out HOW Bungie detects cheats. Bungie COULD ban everyone the instant they log in, but doing so means hackers now know how the anticheat works and suddenly cheating becomes a forever problem. Bungie however, likely doesn't even know it has cheaters until an employee logs on and tries to go flawless. Roblox, Infinity Ward, Blizzard, you name the company, they know whose cheating but choose to spare a certain number of cheaters to cause enough confusion on cheating forums that the cheat devs don't know why some people got spared, and some didn't. Was it infinite ammo? Infinite super? Pseudo wall hacks? Only the game maker knows. I'd imagine the only reason Bungie is banning players right now is because the ship is sinking and they want to look like they're doing something to clean their image up.
So now they’re making the employees play the game just to try and bump up the numbers😂and first day they run into the stuff we’ve been talking about. They are such a joke for a developer they make Ubisoft look professional.
They could have a guaranteed trilas armour/weapon drop for every match and most people still wouldn't play. You are just absued and tbagged canon fodder
How many times did Bungie said about cheaters they want to fix it that's what they say in the past anyway don't matter what they do they're always have cheaters in trials on crucible. It don't matter what they do that I'll still do it they cannot stop the cheaters because they do not care about the other people playing the game
I wish I had the power to insta ban cheaters in Trials
@@LUCKYY10P not just trials what about gambit???....what about normal PvP??
@@Paul-y5e5jYeah even Regular Crucible is plagued at times...smh
It’s really bad. 1 and 27?? More like 1 in 3
Do you know anything about this episode challenges and the bright dust pile? All sources show this is the last week of challenges but we are far under the requirement needed.
Just ban epic from making accounts
A lower player population makes cheaters more exposed.
You beat me to saying it sire
Look man it's all been a ploy to get rid of the cheaters this whole time.
There are more cheaters because the tool was leaked for free on discord and on EpicNPC for a couple hours
So it affects a bungie employee and something gets done. Brutal.
This.
Yall Thumb up this please!
Destiny players get good news and find a way to turn it into something negative. Class acts.
Budgie is starting to act just like the politicians do. They only take action once it affects them.
Lol they dont do anything until it effects them personally.
Just like politicians, they’re a joke tbh
Other games do this in a weekly basis
Or something that is funny, like 12 people raids & other fun things.
I want some of my money back!!!!!......it's been happening for years!!!
they are banning cheaters every week...
@@Paul-y5e5jyou don’t have any money 😂
Ay this point, Bungie should have a rotating team of people in Trials and Comp every week checking for blatant cheaters. And get a refund for that Battle Eye.
They could of they didn't fire so many people
I've matched Dmg in console lobbies several times over the past few weeks. Not sure if he's looking for cheaters or dodging the ones on PC 😅
Man I wish Bungie would publish a list of all the cheaters that got banned. And the reason I want Bungie to publish a list of all the cheaters is because it happens a lot that a player accuse another player of cheating and in most cases it's more of a skill issue why that person accuses another player of cheating. And if that person is on the ban list that was accused of cheating by that person, then the person who made that accusation is not a noob or anything. And I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, if Bungie did that, it wouldn't be illegal to do that, because the developers of The First Descendants do that, they publish a list of all cheaters that have been banned.
Ban ximmers and 90% of the trials base is gone
Pretty much!!!
Don't forget Cronus Zens
Half of the 2kd+ players gone in a flash.
Bro I've been saying this for years so many of them
For real
It's kind of ridiculous that it took a dev matching a cheater personally for them to finally do something, though.
Lol, this has been going on forever. If Bungie did not match these cheaters nothing would have been done! 😂
Bungie needs to improve the speed of their cheater detection. Once detected while in a match, that cheater should either experience auto death. If a teammate revives that cheater, then it just keeps that cheater cycling through deaths/rez, death/rez so they just give up...or make their weapons do zero damage.
Not my problem until it’s my problem
Bungie pulling the ol' Politician Card 😂
How is banning cheaters and people breaking TOS “pulling the ol’ politician card”?
@@Mugiwara2k More so that this action of the ban wave coincidentally came after DMG matched with a cheater.
It may or may not have been the case, but it just looks sketchy on paper that the ban wave came AFTER that incident.
@@kristiansimon7511 I don’t see how it’s sketchy. He matched with a cheater, and banned him as a result. Bungie can’t know of every single cheater (there’d be none if they could) and some of the cheats they use now can bypass their anti-cheat security.
It only makes sense that he’d ban one when he sees it with his own eyes.
@@Mugiwara2k And you’re absolutely right, that is true and you’re not wrong. What I’m saying is in the eyes of some others, people will see this as Bungie only banning people when it affects them. This is probably not true, but based on the timing, it comes off this way.
@@kristiansimon7511 Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense with everything going on with the game lately, even if it’s probably not the actual case.
Cheaters: come on,it was just my new gaming chair.
I didn’t realize they played this game considering how everything has been in destiny
dmg is just a CM. he plays quite frequently actually. He does trials pretty often too. He talks about it on his personal twitter lol.
People are so damn butthurt apparently about it too that he stumbled into a cheater while he was playing. It was inevitable, regardless of how hard they push to deal with them, they're going to slip through the cracks no matter what, the only looming threat they have against them is the fact that a lot of these cheat distributers are slowly getting pinched. This narrative is so passe it's not even funny. I'm not even trying to defend Bungie in any real sense. The community is just that fking stupid.
@@BeeBeeBeeLolThey'll hate you, but you speak the truth. The community will take no accountability, but is at least partially responsible for this mess. The community can ask for something, get it, then spit it out like a spoiled brat because nobody actually agrees on what they want. I don't think it's possible to please this community.
Right? I'd love to see some of these Devs play the content they are putting out...
Makes sense since they sure as hell arent fixing the game
They also have everything unlocked and don't have to grind for impossible rolls.
The changing name thing makes sense lmao. I had a hunch people were doing that. Seen someone's name change a few times in crucible & they were trying to trip me out. Seen my IRL name a couple times. It makes sense that would happen from how much I used to play crucible. It's crazy that people are still able to cheat to that extent with how much tech is out to prevent that from happening. I'm not even mad anymore at cheaters for cheating fr. Makes good content. Wish it would stop tho.
I wouldn't applaud Bungie for ban waves when it took a CM to match up with cheaters for them to do anything about it.
So wait… a bungie employee has to be first impacted by cheating before they actually do something about it ?
Um…could we ask then that bungie employees, as part of their 5 day job, play the game 1 of those days . Seems that is the way to get things fixed
What they didn't tell us is that this "large" amount of bans equates to almost HALF THE GAMES CURRENT PLAYER POPULATION!😂
Matched a cheater every 3-4 matches over the last weekend. One guy had aimbot, zim/chronus, etc. Did not miss. 92% precision kill rate on hand cannons, 98% precision kills on snipers...you get the idea...and I'm a terrible trials player. And I kept matching with this cheater every few games. I just gave up.
Really glad DMG could come back to D2, just to get something done automatically (after it had to personally affect him)
Crazy how they know how to stop the cheats, but decide to soak up paychecks instead.
In my GM, a guy continually teleported through enemies & one shot champions. We couldn't keep up & kept getting pulled. I know ppl say oh its PVE," he had a flawless emblem. Just be safe these hacks can't sit in either content unchecked just in case
This is quite amusing because I bumped into one of those name exploiters in the tower. He had a name that I had tried to use before but couldn't use it because it was offensive 🤣
I'm amazed that there were even enough people still playing to ban.
Bungie only does something about it when it directly happens to them
It has been always hard to convince Bungie about cheaters... they only believe it when they are affected directly.
If I understand correctly, the number of players has to go down so much that a Destiny developer only matches against a cheater once before taking steps against cheaters? So let the number of players go down further, maybe then invest in a proper anti-cheat system. I mean, how can players identify cheaters faster and more accurately than Bungie's anti-cheat system?
We complain it and nothing happens. But it hits them then they want to do something about it.
Bungie would not do anything about the cheaters until a Bungie Dev personally matched a cheater. 🤣
Time to visit the help forums to see the "Innocents" that have been wrongly banned LOL.
Innocents rarely get banned. It only takes 2 minutes to check their Crucible/Trials stats and past games. I do this before reporting players all the time.
When one guardian or team has found a way to initiate the ban hammer with statistics. Delicious
People have established non burner steam accounts with YEARS of comments on their profile from people they cheated against complaining about it. Their profile title will be a troll like "Go cry about it." The overwhelming confidence these cheaters have that nothing will be done about their constant cheating is not unfounded.
thanks for the heads up to not waste time in trials or likely IB :)
Will is about time they get a bit of a taste of what we’ve been dealing with.
I looked up a one person today was banned over 20 times, I’m not a dev but really! How can I see a cheater and Bungie can’t? Wtf!!!
I'm a geezer who's gone Flawless a couple dozen times and I mostly play Trials for the cosmetics. I stopped taking it seriously once I realized how much RNG kills the matchmaking while cheaters and exploiters run wild in the playlist.
So it took for one of them to be screwed over before they did anything.. great ! And it's more like 1 in every 27 players... not 27 games.
Whats the cronus numbers so sick of sketchy duels😅
Such a bad look man just giving more ammo to the community 😂
Imagine being a cheater and seeing the game devs load against you
Ive been storylining my new hunter. Still haven't been able to play Vesper and am having trouble with Kells Fall. Am low on cores, prisms, and am in desperate need of acend shards.
Try Dares of Eternity on Master, it whatever it's called. Pretty easy to get through with a half decent team and you can farm Shards.
@@JonnyAnonyou got the name right. Not many people play it, but with bxr being popular, people are flocking over to it.
They probably thought ZK or Jake was gonna match em...Nope. 😂😅
So it took a dev to finally experience it themselves for the company to decide it was worth it to start banning these cheaters? The game has been a wreck for years.
I thought Devs couldnt stream Destiny... When Broman's brother started working at Bungie he said he couldn't stream destiny anymore.
I was doing some Gambit with a friend, and we went against someone who was mic banned, most likely he was a cheater but my friend and i didn't pursue the issue and moved on.
It would be easy to fix, only allow access to trials by purchasing the DLC. But they won’t do that because it will make their player #’s go down.
That's already how it works. I can't play trials, because I don't have final shape.
So now that they've experienced it, they do something about it?
I don’t understand why I got communication ban.
Good job Bungie! Can we also ban by association!? Most of these cheaters are just taking ults to flawless and they dont care if they get banned. If you play with cheaters, get BANNNED with them!
They should ban them, along with all their clanmates.
Matched Revenge this weekend. 100% blatant cheater.
So good to know…
Really restoring the faith at bungie
Good to know they'll only fix it when DMG plays trials? How is that good?
@@chandothemandoit's extremely complicated, corporate crap, unfortunately so many heads, not enough hands...
GOOD…. What will Bungie do for Marathon?
So you're telling me the only way the game gets fixed/looked into is if one of the BUNGIE DEV'S get cheated on.... bull💩
Wow. It's almost like the people who play your game know more about the problems than you do. So fucking listen to us.
that cheater must be either brave, stupid or both to blatantly cheat in front of a bungie dev team or employee!
The highest number possible of heavy headshot kills statistically would be 9
Unless you mean trials
I thought they banned the use of those external devices a while back?
Wait I thought they put out an update through battleye that specifically stated of zen and xim software were detected, a softban would be placed on ya, so you'd be forced to play with other softban players instead
That's what they were supposed to do but they never did it. Occasionally they ban someone for a week but since trials is out every week it doesn't really do anything to cheaters in trials
Is this why I can't match anyone to play comp with?
Wow, it only took Bungie to ACTUALLY PLAY THEIR GAME to do something about how shitty it is
I'm glad and all, but tell me why it takes a Dev getting matched with a cheater for stuff to get done
Unfortunately cheaters aren't the only issue in PvP. One of the bigger issues than cheating is player population. (As a use to be sweaty PvP player who doesn't play d2 anymore) I feel for anyone that plays PvP religiously rn as it's gonna feel empty compared to start of last year.
For the 300th time. Dev = developer. "Works for bungie" doesn't by default mean developer.
You love to see it, I have 0 sympathy for cheaters, cronus, xim users etc
You really missed the story here. DMG would NEVER go flawless without the assistance of streamers. Check his stats. So, while DMG isn't cheating he is using his position within Bungie to be boosted by streamers to flawless.
Besides, acting like going flawless is something that doesn't breed cheating is non-sensical. And you apparently only get banned if you offend an actual Bungie employee.
This is a WHOLE different conversation that honestly the community isn't ready for because they honestly don't see how this is scummy. There is a whole community that is ok with this type of behavior.
They’re literally banning the only active player base they have now😂
I got banned today after 10 years I don’t even play PvP unless it’s iron banner. Free from this game
As long as you weren’t using a pulse I would say you probably didn’t deserve it.
@@malice4mercy904I was using lightweights months before the buff, but I also use Duality and Cryosthesia. I still have blood on my hands. I will not stoop as low as chaperone.
Looks like I’m doing Trials this weekend!
It’s just ganna be more sweaty taking out cheats doesn’t take out the problem.
There's way more cheaters than 1 in 27 matches, and that's because Bungie banned all of us previously loyal customers from playing Trials if we didn't buy the last expansion, thus lowering the non-cheater player count. RIP Bungie.
Let’s leave trials for Bungie and the cheaters 😂😂😂
Cheaters in comp too!!!
lol we'll see if this actually stops the cheaters, it might for now but lets see if it does in the long run.
If you consider xim cheating it’s way more common than 1/27.
PlayStation said I broke restrictions and they blocked my party chat and my messages on my console can’t use any well it’s because other people msg me and report me for nothing even though they msg me first and called me names etc
Liar. You retaliated and that’s why you’re banned. You didn’t do “Nothing”. That’s not how bans work.
Putting destiny on pc was the nail in the coffin
Since the ban wave the pvp player base has dropped into single figures 😅
It about time 👏👏
I'm pretty much done with the PVP until there is a Major change in Battle Eye or Destiny 3.
Destiny 3 is a dream that won’t ever happen. However battle eye update at this point is starting to fit that as well.
I don’t think it’s one and 27. I think it’s one and five.
I just avoid Trials all together now. It's just to much to deal with. Maybe I'll come back when there's less cheaters
Less cheaters means less player and more meta abusing 3.0 kd tryhards. So there is no real solution at this point
@malice4mercy904 That's definitely true too
Theres been many videos of prominent streamers posting videos of cheaters and they only do something when an employee sees it live while playing smh.
So they gonna go from 15k active players to 8k. Titanic is sinking guys.
We as a community sending tweets, forums even videos about this begging for it to stop: Nothing
Bungie dev live streams Trials and runs into cheaters: Massive ban wave
Of course when it affects Bungie they do something lmao haha
So all it took was they getting affected by them.... Got it.
2044 power level is crazy
I've seen a 2052 in a gm
Epic gamers say goodbye
Diffizzle looking for a trials carry from the devs 😅
The reason i stopped playing is cause of cheaters. Man like not once in d1 or d2 i could have made it to flawless due to cheaters on the last match for a flawless.
I got banned during this. I've never cheated and lack the knowledge to do so. I've played since Beta. Bungie just be banning loyal fans. It's a joke. All my progression gone.
With my luck I'd team up with a dev on my first time trying to cheat lol
So, realistically the slow banning is to prevent hackers from figuring out HOW Bungie detects cheats. Bungie COULD ban everyone the instant they log in, but doing so means hackers now know how the anticheat works and suddenly cheating becomes a forever problem. Bungie however, likely doesn't even know it has cheaters until an employee logs on and tries to go flawless. Roblox, Infinity Ward, Blizzard, you name the company, they know whose cheating but choose to spare a certain number of cheaters to cause enough confusion on cheating forums that the cheat devs don't know why some people got spared, and some didn't. Was it infinite ammo? Infinite super? Pseudo wall hacks? Only the game maker knows.
I'd imagine the only reason Bungie is banning players right now is because the ship is sinking and they want to look like they're doing something to clean their image up.
All console cheaters: " I'm on console bro"
As if consoles don't have cheats.
TIME TO PLAY TRIALS THIS WEEKEND 😂
they'll be back by then, lots of cheaters have multiple alt accounts
@@elastic3379real.
So... people have been complaining about CHEATING for MONTHS now.
But because it happens to one of "them" it's a problem now? GTFOH.
lmao there goes 20% of the population
So now they’re making the employees play the game just to try and bump up the numbers😂and first day they run into the stuff we’ve been talking about. They are such a joke for a developer they make Ubisoft look professional.
We're all thinking the same thing right? Lol Yea thought so.
They could have a guaranteed trilas armour/weapon drop for every match and most people still wouldn't play. You are just absued and tbagged canon fodder
How many times did Bungie said about cheaters they want to fix it that's what they say in the past anyway don't matter what they do they're always have cheaters in trials on crucible. It don't matter what they do that I'll still do it they cannot stop the cheaters because they do not care about the other people playing the game
Cheaters just want to win , real bad.