If your m1s do high dmg, it is considered brain dead just like silenthearts doing nothing but parry trading and everyone thinks theyre all unskilled because how much damage their m1s deal, which i somewhat agree with.
@@instantt7726 its not like ur hits are 100% guaranteed u still have to hit ur m1s. it doesnt make the build cheese just cuz the heroblades do less damage and they cant rely on mantras lol. he still has to win the parry trade and the heroblades still do damage.
Notice how it was ONLY the Shadow user who complained and folded almost immediately when put under pressure for like 5 seconds. Its almost like they all play the game on easy mode with the best attunement in the game and can't handle not being able to mantra spam. The guy who complained at the end atleast tried adapting and only complained when he died.
Ok so I know the shadow user he's in my guild and is my Best friend. He almost Nevers use cringy build like this and complain the same as you about those mantra. But you need to understand that is build is a mage build (not a m1 build) and other is a base m1 build. I totaly understand he's pov you just can't do a thing to win
Friend of mine. He use a build like everyone (he dont like at all those type of shadow build) but you need to understand that if your build is a mage build being forced to m1 is NOT fun at all you need to take the pov of him too to be able to judge 😊
if possible you should get reinforce and taunt (sing is optional), but taunt will make it harder for them to run away/jump around meaning they have to parry trade
@@chriss1544 doesn't every build that doesn't go silentheart have at least five mantras? Mage build or not (btw i hate pyrekeeper too so I see your point, but five mantras is normal
@@HowlingDeath375my comment was sarcastic, technically pyre users have 5 more mantras because they got 5 different crits and even during tranquil circle they can still use them
Funny how people complain about this when in multiple cases when THEY ARE THE ONES AT ADVANTAGE. Silent hearts, star kindreds, blade harpers, most legendary weapons all have natural advantage in this due to having more options and mix ups
prov is a high C tier low B tier enchant for pvp guh for this build it would be like a mid/high B tier, maybe low A (these are PERSONAL rankings from someone with 1800 hours)
7:24 ''You are not original'' I've fought many hundreds of times in chime and overworld, watched maybe a thousand videos and I've NEVER seen someone do a build like this, it literally does not get any more original than this.
Someways you could probably use the build more effectively: Use the blindseer thing in tandem with shadow chains so they cant run as much (put modifiers on it brah..) Wait for your shadow chains to travel a bit and then proc posers that way its actually true Learn how to uppercut behind block Its an actual unique build that i wanted to show how i would probably use it im not telling you how to play your own build obviously but its just some lil tips that i picked up from this video
why is this like the ''true silentheart'' build. Also this seems fun as hell, ive been missing the old days of deep and been complaining but i could have literally done what you did in this video ALL THIS TIME and stopped yelling into a void. I've lost a lot of my skill since mantra spam became the meta, so I can't wait to go make this build and try it out in combat.
7:22 a shadow hero blade clonetrooper, the least original of them all telling a parry trade build they aren't original? I've only seen 2 people ever make a parry trade build, verse 2 mage meta spoiled them. 💀
hey fyi lose your mind isn't that good as everyone says since if you want the full 15% damage buff you need 0 sanity at which you're pretty much dead and at most when you're tier 1-2 sanity you get 5% damage buff, I recommend investing those 80 points into a different stat tree or even getting reinforced with it. 😎👍
I thought when you popped heretics you get 20 seconds of proxy "max" sanity which gives you the full dmg buff, which works with piercing will as well because it requires you to "actively" lose sanity?
explaining pros and cons of 80 wp stat point: you'll get max damage at tier 3 insanity, which is 0 sanity but at 0 sanity, you get autogrip the moment you're knocked and there's a small stun for having 0 sanity while activating heretic sutra, you lose sanity this will proc piercing will and shared misery when using 80 wp its recommend to use it for the pen, clearly you only get 1 extra damage if you have like 5% dmg buff i recommend going 85 for shared misery if you want to build around that because applying insanity to your enemy is good if they dont have unfazed, tier 3 will autogrip and stun them 80 if you want the pen its build specific
6:02 also did u just hit him while he was parry stunned 😭 (but because of these interactions its probably due to you having better ping not entirely sure but its still an issue that kind of makes parry trading not really parry trades) Anyways some stuff u need modifiers to ur shadow chains with a blessed gem so people won't run and u can truly immobilize someone so they won't run away alternatively you could also run specter gale just for the talents which I guess would be good for the overworld but idk that was my original idea for a build like this but like I kinda stopped playing for a long while :D
Had something close to this on a 250+ year old animal king slot. The stats are definitely horrible by today’s standards. I used blindseer since I was tired of oathless and couldn’t get visionshaper. Saw the shadow chain talent and thought it was neat. Used it to seal people if we were flooding
I think that all this "build vs build" idea is actually the playerbase fault, people be relying more on their 2km shadow gun and 100 damage m1s than their parry skills or non-cheese builds which are balanced and can go alright against anything (and not be fully countered by another cheese like the saltalchemist shadow hb guy)
To be fair this is still a cheese build, completly locking people out of using all their abilities unless you're a silentheart is cheese, but I find it funny how the biggest cheese builds, a pyrekeeper and shadow mage complained most.
This specific one isnt, but it could be. If he had other mantras to deal damage i could understand, this specific build with only mantras that stop the other from using mantras while he himself has no damage mantras puts them on a even playing field (Block, Parry, Dodge)
I won’t lie, even though i was complete ass at verse 1 pvp, I probably would’ve enjoyed it more than people running to the Himalayas as it is right now.
the guy at the end thought he was nonchalant to just get folded, always good to parry check players fr. also why was there a guy using a pve build on chime?
WHERES UR WORLD WITHOUT SONG 😡😡😡😡 (also if u want to make it viable you can use something like lords tithe and grand support so you can heal a lot and steal ether so they cant cast or use overflowing dam 👍)
@@Ruby_Shinra-vf8knnobody cares about “their pov” they’re using cheese builds and complaining when someone takes away their mantras with a much more skill based build.
@@Ritheix u have 100 in medium, 6 in profiency, + heretics ur doing 80-90 per m1 while theyre doing 30 per m1 with heroblade. they need to land 3 m1s to be equal to ur SINGLE m1 with a MEDIUM wepon
@@instantt7726it’s not cheese they just have to literally parry its cheese if someone can throw down 4 mantras in 3 seconds and do 2-3 bars of your hp for missing one parry deepwoken was always meant to be a parry based m1 game not feint into 4 mantras
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A build that is more Silent Heart-like than Silent Heart
the fact these people think that doing parry trades are “cringe” is just crazy to me bro deep players cant be real 😭😭🙏
If your m1s do high dmg, it is considered brain dead just like silenthearts doing nothing but parry trading and everyone thinks theyre all unskilled because how much damage their m1s deal, which i somewhat agree with.
Literally why? Parry trading is a fair way to do damage and actually requires skill@@lesinare906
@@lesinare906parry trading is legit skill based idk what ur on
@@lesinare906 then put proficiency on your build not just putting them all in songchant.
M1s are literally supposed to be the main damage source. M1ing and parry trading is a core part of the game not your 20km shadow gun meta😭
parry trade builds ARE NOT CHEESE!! people call it cheese cause they cant spam attunement constantly especially flamecharm or shadowcast players!!
we need the azure shattered katana royal pathfinders back
he has 100 in medium and 6 proficency fighting heroblades with zero in proficency they are indeed cheese
@@instantt7726 mald
@@instantt7726 its not like ur hits are 100% guaranteed u still have to hit ur m1s. it doesnt make the build cheese just cuz the heroblades do less damage and they cant rely on mantras lol. he still has to win the parry trade and the heroblades still do damage.
@@instantt7726 okay, mage
Notice how it was ONLY the Shadow user who complained and folded almost immediately when put under pressure for like 5 seconds. Its almost like they all play the game on easy mode with the best attunement in the game and can't handle not being able to mantra spam. The guy who complained at the end atleast tried adapting and only complained when he died.
Ok so I know the shadow user he's in my guild and is my Best friend. He almost Nevers use cringy build like this and complain the same as you about those mantra. But you need to understand that is build is a mage build (not a m1 build) and other is a base m1 build. I totaly understand he's pov you just can't do a thing to win
@@Ruby_Shinra-vf8kn don't go mage on a sword game
@@Rikushiiii it's not sword game anymore, wake up to reality dumbass
@@Rikushiiii not a sword game btw
@@Rikushiiiitbh its not a sword game...
7:26 "you are not original" while using shadow heroblade
6:46 bro says cringe while he is playing saltchemist shadow hb😂 cant believe these guys are real
Fr
Shadow users when they have to play the game instead of button mashing:
Friend of mine. He use a build like everyone (he dont like at all those type of shadow build) but you need to understand that if your build is a mage build being forced to m1 is NOT fun at all you need to take the pov of him too to be able to judge 😊
@@subaruakyou too
@@Ruby_Shinra-vf8kn Well it's not fun at all fighting the 30000000 shadow hb salt user spamming healing potions and giant mantras
if possible you should get reinforce and taunt (sing is optional), but taunt will make it harder for them to run away/jump around meaning they have to parry trade
sing for encore to guarantee shadow chains if u can’t sheathe
@@OriginallyEzeusing 2 mantra at once is not possible
good idea i’m going to recreate this build
What a hero keeping the deepwoken chime clear of mantra spams
the first guy legit boosted bro, the moment he saw he couldnt 23456 he prob went in panick
Nah you gotta respect the fact that he was actually trying to parry trade and wasn't even button mashing in the first place
he uses pyre keeper so he still has 5 mantras
instead he just r r r r
@@chriss1544 doesn't every build that doesn't go silentheart have at least five mantras? Mage build or not (btw i hate pyrekeeper too so I see your point, but five mantras is normal
@@HowlingDeath375my comment was sarcastic, technically pyre users have 5 more mantras because they got 5 different crits and even during tranquil circle they can still use them
isn’t insane that this game has reached a point in its life that you have to “force” people to utilize its basic skill function
Nah fr tho bro some of the most fun fights I've had were mostly parry trading people
Funny how people complain about this when in multiple cases when THEY ARE THE ONES AT ADVANTAGE. Silent hearts, star kindreds, blade harpers, most legendary weapons all have natural advantage in this due to having more options and mix ups
you couldve got the guy who said "wipe irl" banned btw
True but lets not be mean
@@subaruak That's very respectable.
@@subaruak He has no enemies
@@subaruakbut it would be funny
He got banned, not for long tho
this would be more fun if silenheart wasnt physical mage spam
y’all complain about anything silentheart has FOUR abilities that are barley spammable
@@strawl3erry871 Flow state macro makes everything faster, for a no mantras oath it is literally a mage. The cds are nonexistent
If you have providence thorns ngl you would absolutely slap them
prov is a high C tier low B tier enchant for pvp guh
for this build it would be like a mid/high B tier, maybe low A
(these are PERSONAL rankings from someone with 1800 hours)
ok
@@mat6tehpokemon946 What are you on about 😭 M1 dmg enchants are better for this build because they're more consistent
yea no mantra but pyrekeeper itself equal to 5 mantras 😭
real
Kind of. They all share a cooldown, aside from the running crit.
The fact that this seems much more appealing to a non deepwoken player than the actual combat should say some things
Bro people are avoiding parry trades at all cost. They jump out of parry stun, airswing, swing again. Anything but parry trade
Airswinging is punishable, but it's depressing people can't do the bare minimum and basics
7:20 - "u are not original" bro s3fu u are playing with hero blade 🙏🙏😭😭
THIS is what silentheart shouldve been
They removed the damage buff right? Thought it's good enough to make it stick to it's core idea.
@@torque8047 nah bro mage silentheart builds will always exist with the typa moveset it got rn
They removed the silent from silentheart
sigil knight church knight ronin? damn nice meta...
7:24 ''You are not original'' I've fought many hundreds of times in chime and overworld, watched maybe a thousand videos and I've NEVER seen someone do a build like this, it literally does not get any more original than this.
shadow saltchemist kid is a geek, you metaphorically shoved him in a locker with your build, good job
Someways you could probably use the build more effectively:
Use the blindseer thing in tandem with shadow chains so they cant run as much (put modifiers on it brah..)
Wait for your shadow chains to travel a bit and then proc posers that way its actually true
Learn how to uppercut behind block
Its an actual unique build that i wanted to show how i would probably use it im not telling you how to play your own build obviously but its just some lil tips that i picked up from this video
You could've gotten nemesis to further prevent them from running and thus provoking parry trades more often.
7:36 deepwoken players when they have to play the game
u shouldve took devouring eye too
@@smhkyoka True i forgot
why is this like the ''true silentheart'' build. Also this seems fun as hell, ive been missing the old days of deep and been complaining but i could have literally done what you did in this video ALL THIS TIME and stopped yelling into a void. I've lost a lot of my skill since mantra spam became the meta, so I can't wait to go make this build and try it out in combat.
this channel might be peak, first vid ive seen, hope for many more
80 will post, what are you smoking
7:22 a shadow hero blade clonetrooper, the least original of them all telling a parry trade build they aren't original? I've only seen 2 people ever make a parry trade build, verse 2 mage meta spoiled them. 💀
Every medium weapon is the same what you are lol talking about
This is great content seeing as nobody wants to parry trade anymore. good job
THIS IS PEAK.
sum eternal logstones and this build would be peak
hey fyi lose your mind isn't that good as everyone says since if you want the full 15% damage buff you need 0 sanity at which you're pretty much dead and at most when you're tier 1-2 sanity you get 5% damage buff, I recommend investing those 80 points into a different stat tree or even getting reinforced with it. 😎👍
I thought when you popped heretics you get 20 seconds of proxy "max" sanity which gives you the full dmg buff, which works with piercing will as well because it requires you to "actively" lose sanity?
@@blahajsupremacist Nah, if you watched Inteque's vids he explained it and its so much worse than we thought
@ oh word?
@ bring back 2000 hp build meta
explaining pros and cons of 80 wp stat point:
you'll get max damage at tier 3 insanity, which is 0 sanity
but at 0 sanity, you get autogrip the moment you're knocked and there's a small stun for having 0 sanity
while activating heretic sutra, you lose sanity this will proc piercing will and shared misery
when using 80 wp its recommend to use it for the pen, clearly you only get 1 extra damage if you have like 5% dmg buff
i recommend going 85 for shared misery if you want to build around that because applying insanity to your enemy is good
if they dont have unfazed, tier 3 will autogrip and stun them
80 if you want the pen
its build specific
if we all copy this build we might be able to suppress the mages
6:02 also did u just hit him while he was parry stunned 😭
(but because of these interactions its probably due to you having better ping not entirely sure but its still an issue that kind of makes parry trading not really parry trades)
Anyways some stuff u need modifiers to ur shadow chains with a blessed gem so people won't run and u can truly immobilize someone so they won't run away
alternatively you could also run specter gale just for the talents which I guess would be good for the overworld but idk that was my original idea for a build like this but like I kinda stopped playing for a long while :D
Hey I made that same build too lol (btw heretic sutra is not worth getting at all, doesn’t proc full lose your mind)
Amazing video. Much respect. GET RID OF THE MANTRA SPAMMERS!!!!!
Had something close to this on a 250+ year old animal king slot. The stats are definitely horrible by today’s standards. I used blindseer since I was tired of oathless and couldn’t get visionshaper. Saw the shadow chain talent and thought it was neat. Used it to seal people if we were flooding
10:06, ngl that was kinda funny LOL
I think that all this "build vs build" idea is actually the playerbase fault, people be relying more on their 2km shadow gun and 100 damage m1s than their parry skills or non-cheese builds which are balanced and can go alright against anything (and not be fully countered by another cheese like the saltalchemist shadow hb guy)
Have you tried blessed gem on shadow chains for more silencing?
Amazing video keep uploading goat
I miss old silentheart. That oath was the whole reason I got at least a little better at parrying and now its gone :(
To be fair this is still a cheese build, completly locking people out of using all their abilities unless you're a silentheart is cheese, but I find it funny how the biggest cheese builds, a pyrekeeper and shadow mage complained most.
This specific one isnt, but it could be. If he had other mantras to deal damage i could understand, this specific build with only mantras that stop the other from using mantras while he himself has no damage mantras puts them on a even playing field (Block, Parry, Dodge)
good vid and build man ignore the people who cry they're just mage one tricks playing a different game than us
get eternal logstones on shadow chain, it last much longer
I wasnt sure if it had modifers so i didnt even try but good to know
try putting like 3 eternal and 3 aoe on on ur shadow chains it lasts much longer
WE MAKING PEOPLE PRESS F WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥🔥🔥
This build is a must have in low elo
"deepwoken (for dummies)" ahh build
I honestly want to make this build just so I can improve my basic parrying skills, seems like a decent idea
I find it absurd that most people will do almost anything to avoid parry trading in this parry-based game💔
w music choices js like me fr
"Cringe" - shadow heroblade saltchemist
seeing your errors in parry trading and lack of fienting is a turnoff from this vid 😭
Closest thing to old silentheart
I won’t lie, even though i was complete ass at verse 1 pvp, I probably would’ve enjoyed it more than people running to the Himalayas as it is right now.
godseekers HATE this meta...
put 3aeon and 3eternal on shadow chains with perfect and crystal and use blessed u basicly can spam them no stop
About to do this but with Light Weapon instead.
How many death threats yall think I will receive?
I'm convinced that these people have never experienced verse 1. Being able to sit still and parry trade is meant to be the bare minimum.
All fun and games till a pot bomb and gun build pulls up on you and you get maged on with 0 mantras
“You are not original” says the shadow puppets shadow hero blade saltchemist
this build is great i may do similar one cuz i need to get better at parry trading
try and feint or delay ur m1s more even if you are "parry trading"
you'd be able to do this even better with a nemesis/showstopper
if shadow chains get nerfed i aint playing deepwoken ever again 😭
Awesome video bro but the discord link is expired could you update it please?
the guy at the end thought he was nonchalant to just get folded, always good to parry check players fr. also why was there a guy using a pve build on chime?
Oh my god no way I really did met you in chime GG
lowkey put prov thorns since ur parry trading
should get enforcer pull to stop them from running
SAY THIS IS TO EASY WHEN U PLAY AT 4 BARS, but good video the people have to stop running and playing weird
its all fun and games until you find a silentheart
Twisted puppets shadow heroblade mage mfs trying not to cry after they can't use their clone trooper builds (they will get smoked without it)
bros out cheesing the cheesers
This build will show whos a verse 1 player and whos not
suba der goat
you should get nemesis on this
why did you go 25 charisma?
WHERES UR WORLD WITHOUT SONG 😡😡😡😡 (also if u want to make it viable you can use something like lords tithe and grand support so you can heal a lot and steal ether so they cant cast or use overflowing dam 👍)
wth pyre and shadowflame salt saying cringe? cool
You just need to understand them their pov 😊
@@Ruby_Shinra-vf8knnobody cares about “their pov” they’re using cheese builds and complaining when someone takes away their mantras with a much more skill based build.
@@Ruby_Shinra-vf8kn well never is never
imo theres literally no way this can qualify as cheese unless youre mantra carried
6 profiency and 100 in medium fighting heroblades with 0 in prof
@@instantt7726 well that's ur fault for trying to be a mage
@@instantt7726 but how is it cheese..? you calling M1S CHEESE?? M1SSS?
@@Ritheix m1s with 100 medium and 6 profiency against heroblades that do 30 damage per m1 yes
@@Ritheix u have 100 in medium, 6 in profiency, + heretics ur doing 80-90 per m1 while theyre doing 30 per m1 with heroblade. they need to land 3 m1s to be equal to ur SINGLE m1 with a MEDIUM wepon
yes, drag them back to verse 1 please
The hate I felt for that shadow hero blade omg.
Monster mantras? Cus they don’t take up talents
a world without song ahh build
Calling a build that forces parry trade cheese just proves how sorry pvp has gotten (parry based game btw)
100 medium and 6 prof if ur fighting a heroblade ur just cheesing them
Shut up
(i mainly mean that towards the bums that run around and mantra spam) wouldnt be an issue if parry stun worked properly but DEEPWOKEN 🎊
@@instantt7726it’s not cheese they just have to literally parry its cheese if someone can throw down 4 mantras in 3 seconds and do 2-3 bars of your hp for missing one parry deepwoken was always meant to be a parry based m1 game not feint into 4 mantras
@@instantt7726and u have to be buns at the game if you’re complaining about m1 damage u got the f q and g key on your keyboard for a reason
Think he talking about the video by @notprimeily @ 0:15
Are you a church knight with sigil knight commander armor???? Bro get the drip right come on man
@@DeepDelveKayMudet i didnt get the hallowtide 22 bro😭
Wow bro your so crazy
genius build wp
u shouldve grabbed ardour scream
Make the same build but with dual hand gun trust itll be busted
I love this build
Ck helmet skc armor... Wipe irl.
make a goofy jester build
its always fun observing the grunts that run from tranquil circle
"cringe" the shadow heroblade saltchemist says
yoo i fought you