Activision is so insecure that they ban a mod that helps them make money from MWR sales. Are they that afraid of people finding out modern cod isnt as good as the old ones?
Exactly this. They can't retroactively add micro transactions or Engagement Optimized Matchmaking to their old games, so they gotta funnel everyone to the new games 😂
Chop is absolutely right when it comes to Easter eggs in zombies. I hate how much emphasis is put on the ‘story’ and Easter eggs now, it used to be cool secrets found by dedicated players, and the main focus of the mode was the satisfying gameplay, atmosphere etc
Black ops 3, considered the best zombies in the franchise, it was focused on the story. The simple fact is that the stuff they make today isn't as good
I think what Treyarch don't understand is it's not how many people complete the Easter eggs it's the fact that there is the possibility to do Easter eggs that gives the mode it's soul, mystery, and replayability. Guided mode removes the mystery in my opinion and turns it into a Campaign mission.
The thing I find most absurd about all of this is the idea that H2M was ever going to have any impact on BO6. Activision has no reason to believe that, nor does the player-base and community as a whole. Realistically speaking, MW2 is old news and we already got the maps remastered in MW3 2023 not even a full year ago. Anybody who wants old Call of Duty does not really care about new Call of Duty and vise versa. Nobody who loves Warzone and MW3 are gonna drop everything for this remaster. Those who appreciate both will simply play both BO6 and MW2 remastered. I thoroughly and wholeheartedly believe there’s no evidence to suggest that MW2 remastered in the version of a mod for COD4 remastered exclusively on PC would take away from BO6 numbers; that’s simply ridiculous, and Activision taking these measures is equally ridiculous, disappointing, and frankly kind of disgusting.
24:40 Tdawg was tryin his absolute hardest to pay attention to what chopper was talking about and not interrupting him about the Modern Warfare 2 H2M cease and desist news.
Counter Strike was originally a mod for half life. Valve saw its popularity and bought out the company who made the mod. But at the same time, I feel like we should expect stuff like this, so the question is why did people buy it in the first place.
Have y'all thought about after cod next since y'all will be so close to each other. Making a vid Tdawgsmitty and CHOPPER split screening some zombies. I know it's probably not gonna happen but I think it would be dope. It would be such a nostalgia esc video reminiscent of the early 2010's zombies videos. Y'all to make a great team keep up the solid work.
STOP catering only to the new players. Not everyone needs to be able to play COD. We don’t want zombies to be simplified. We don’t want algorithmic matchmaking. If you need a billion dollar corporation to hold your hand through the ENTIRE GAME, that’s your problem. Just get better. Activision needs to respect the og player base instead of making mobile game micro transaction simulators for Timmy No-Thumbs
Random Sidenote but the blood effects look really good in all 3 BO6 modes, especially when compared to Cold War. That’s the biggest thing for me when it comes to satisfying gunplay/kills.
The big question that I’m wondering right now is that do they still have anything planned for call of duty for 2025? Because I heard sledgehammer games is not doing like a black ops two remastered or whatever it was And also, for the fact that Grand Theft Auto is coming out next year
Treyarch has been calling the “easter eggs” main quests since BO4, I think they just want people to complete those main quests. We as the zombies community are still calling them easter eggs, but they’re really just story quests and it makes sense that treyarch wants people to get invested in the story. As far as side quests go, those are true easter eggs and they should be found out on your own i feel.
Black ops 6 is definitely going to be my last cod because of the next year Black ops 2 is only going to have a year in Black ops 6 has 4 years so Black ops 2 is not going to be good it's going to be buggy and not playable if I do buy Black ops 2 it's when the game is cheap on sale for the remastered for zombies maps.
Im devastated and heartbroken just like everyone else. I think this said a whole new low for Activision and this is way worse than they think going forward. I guess what we can take from this is move forward and do not support a company who does not like you and find something new. I know it's hard for cog community buying a cod game every single year but I think it's time to stop and it will never stop but we can get it where low as possible in sales then they have previously and that should scare them for the long run. You cannot do something like this and expect get absolutely no consequences. That is all I'm going to say and I'm going to be playing other games. I'm done with COD officially
This is such a stupid financial move from Activision Microsoft..i was so excited for BO6, but since this news, I'm not sure ill buy BO6. I was definitely going to until i saw the news. I bet there are loads of other people thinking the same thing
Mods like Fallout London are allowed, but somehow something like this isn’t allowed? The one time it feels like an exception to the rule too considering you need to own the game. I don’t really understand.
I find Guided Quests being controversial to be kinda stupid on the communities part. There is absolutely nothing negative about it(unless Treyarch fails to make the steps un-datamineable). There is still an Easter Egg/Main Quest Hunt. TH-cam Guides are still going to be relevant especially earlier on(not only because the Guided Quests won't be out right away, but also because you get a reward for doing it unguided(and a bonus reward for doing it unguided before guided comes out)). More people being able to do it means they can start making them harder to solve again(since casuals will be able to play the guided mode). I don't agree with it losing it's identity as an Easter Egg, because it still needs to be solved. H2 being shutdown the way it was is pretty messed up. I saw it coming from a mile away, but it definitely should've been C&D'd sooner, or just let it be since it made them some sales on MWR.
Just a heads up. I know everybody keeps saying OG MW2 is not safe to play on Steam, but I have been playing it for about 3 months straight almost every day up until this point without a client and have had no issues. Is there a chance? Perhaps, but in my personal experience I have not run into anything fishy. Mainly modders, but nothing that is a security concern. So either the concerns are overblown or I have just been super lucky every day for 3 months straight. Do with that info what you will though.
This was obvious, H2M should have just shut their mouths, finished the mod, tested it quietly, LAUNCHED IT THEN TOLD PEOPLE (that way we could have made tons of backups and distributed it amongst ourselves, Since the game was supposed to have a server browser anyone who got it initially and those who had it shared with them could still play Online, and If they kept LAN support X-Link Kai would get around ANY server shutdown) But NO, they had to go loud giving Activision WEEKS to get their lawyers enough time to kill it in its cradle. This was NOT JUST Activision greed, it was BLATANTLY SET UP TO FAIL KNOWING THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!! We ALL KNOW Activision was going to do this one way or another, they want to be the only option for MW2 content. But they just HAD to make everything public to market themselves to Activision! Maybe the next time there are vacancies in a CoD Dev studio their names will be on the quick contacts lists and THAT was the entire reason for this project (Just like SM2) Not JUST greed, Not JUST Incompetence, But a plan from the start. Assholes on all sides.
I'm sorry, I've played most zombies bar bo3, I am a ranked player, but why are activision and ester eggs a thing? They're making it a mission/task not an ester egg! An Easter egg is a hidden thing! You're not meant to know about it. Again, making zombies not zombies.
Why can't we have the cold war progression week upgrade your perks outside of the game that sound that Why can't we have the cold war progression week upgrade your perks outside the game that sound that was way better
@@Mattsuki and another reason is they didn’t give the green card for them to do it they should of waited to do it too before they said yes they did copy some things in game too so yeah
I was going to stay up to midnight and play the mod right as it comes out. But no my excitement fed right into activisions hands and I spent like 8 hours on mwr, so no refund. Shit company, Shit games.
Also, I know you're more mp, but saying mods can't rival with new games ? I bought mwfake2 for the campaign. And I'm playing world at war or BO3 more than mwII. I didn't even buy MWIII. Bo3 thanks to custom was above COLD WAR and blackcell in steam sales. Plus sorry to say but the majority and mainstream youtubers are dumb and corrupted by activision. Playing more activision content than the real fun. Also activision were scared of BO6 being taken out of attention. They were scared of the mod. Publisher has no rights anymore. I don't care about the "I understand from a publisher point" we talk about activision here. And chopper, you have the fucking T7 patch for BO3 Zombies.
WE BACK BOYSSSSSSSSS!
ps... did chop get blurrier???
I’m so fuckin glad. I love listening to this on my drive home and was bummed there wasn’t a new episode in the morning but this is just fine.
We got you! We back baby
Activision is so insecure that they ban a mod that helps them make money from MWR sales. Are they that afraid of people finding out modern cod isnt as good as the old ones?
It prob they saving it as a last bullet to use if modern cods stop making money like they did with cod 4 remaster
Exactly this. They can't retroactively add micro transactions or Engagement Optimized Matchmaking to their old games, so they gotta funnel everyone to the new games 😂
Yep. Also content. Content for creators. But they really fucked up. #boycottactivision
HM2 is banned already? 😮
Couldn't have said it better myself
The blurrier i am the more bad news we have
Sadly true
A higher quality chop would be weird to be honest.
My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined... thanks activision
😂😂
Let’s gooo missed these podcasts, best COD podcast, both of you are GOATS ❤
This has quickly become one of my top 3 podcasts to listen to. Gg’s crew.
I swear, Tdawg only owns one shirt LMAO
Hahaha
Nah, he has 2. The Scott Stapp SB shirt as well.
Chop is absolutely right when it comes to Easter eggs in zombies. I hate how much emphasis is put on the ‘story’ and Easter eggs now, it used to be cool secrets found by dedicated players, and the main focus of the mode was the satisfying gameplay, atmosphere etc
Chop was cooking
Black ops 3, considered the best zombies in the franchise, it was focused on the story.
The simple fact is that the stuff they make today isn't as good
I think what Treyarch don't understand is it's not how many people complete the Easter eggs it's the fact that there is the possibility to do Easter eggs that gives the mode it's soul, mystery, and replayability. Guided mode removes the mystery in my opinion and turns it into a Campaign mission.
This isn’t the treyarch who made those games bf completely diff dev team they don’t know wat there doing tbh
Have never had the pain of trying to complete easter egg quest with randoms
It was the most frustrating thing ever
The thing I find most absurd about all of this is the idea that H2M was ever going to have any impact on BO6. Activision has no reason to believe that, nor does the player-base and community as a whole. Realistically speaking, MW2 is old news and we already got the maps remastered in MW3 2023 not even a full year ago. Anybody who wants old Call of Duty does not really care about new Call of Duty and vise versa. Nobody who loves Warzone and MW3 are gonna drop everything for this remaster. Those who appreciate both will simply play both BO6 and MW2 remastered. I thoroughly and wholeheartedly believe there’s no evidence to suggest that MW2 remastered in the version of a mod for COD4 remastered exclusively on PC would take away from BO6 numbers; that’s simply ridiculous, and Activision taking these measures is equally ridiculous, disappointing, and frankly kind of disgusting.
I'm devastated. We'll never get a remaster 😢
24:40 Tdawg was tryin his absolute hardest to pay attention to what chopper was talking about and not interrupting him about the Modern Warfare 2 H2M cease and desist news.
Great podcast as always
Thanks for listening
Counter Strike was originally a mod for half life. Valve saw its popularity and bought out the company who made the mod. But at the same time, I feel like we should expect stuff like this, so the question is why did people buy it in the first place.
Have y'all thought about after cod next since y'all will be so close to each other. Making a vid Tdawgsmitty and CHOPPER split screening some zombies. I know it's probably not gonna happen but I think it would be dope. It would be such a nostalgia esc video reminiscent of the early 2010's zombies videos. Y'all to make a great team keep up the solid work.
We’re gonna do a live podcast at cod next :)
FiNNALY WE BACK... but for the worse reasons. RIP.
STOP catering only to the new players. Not everyone needs to be able to play COD. We don’t want zombies to be simplified. We don’t want algorithmic matchmaking. If you need a billion dollar corporation to hold your hand through the ENTIRE GAME, that’s your problem. Just get better.
Activision needs to respect the og player base instead of making mobile game micro transaction simulators for Timmy No-Thumbs
Ah yes he said "Timmy No-Thumbs!" I've spotted a fellow chad BlameTruth enjoyer lmao
Bro is preaching
Crazy how they went from me buying MWR and Bo6 to now refunding MWR and not buying bo6
Random Sidenote but the blood effects look really good in all 3 BO6 modes, especially when compared to Cold War. That’s the biggest thing for me when it comes to satisfying gunplay/kills.
R.I.P. MW2R... That's a bummer Activision did that to them.
Not even buying BO6 for zombies after today. Activision is trash for shutting down H2M.
:(
Loser
its just zombies campaign now. less mysteries, less exploration and questions, no excitement.
we are so back
Im an xbox girl and was so willing to buy a pc for the h2m mod. Really disappointed
I have to respect that 🫡
24:51 H2M SHUTDOWN TALK STARTS
The big question that I’m wondering right now is that do they still have anything planned for call of duty for 2025?
Because I heard sledgehammer games is not doing like a black ops two remastered or whatever it was
And also, for the fact that Grand Theft Auto is coming out next year
Treyarch has been calling the “easter eggs” main quests since BO4, I think they just want people to complete those main quests. We as the zombies community are still calling them easter eggs, but they’re really just story quests and it makes sense that treyarch wants people to get invested in the story. As far as side quests go, those are true easter eggs and they should be found out on your own i feel.
Yes, sir going dark is back with another podcast❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You already know!
Black ops 6 is definitely going to be my last cod because of the next year Black ops 2 is only going to have a year in Black ops 6 has 4 years so Black ops 2 is not going to be good it's going to be buggy and not playable if I do buy Black ops 2 it's when the game is cheap on sale for the remastered for zombies maps.
Can’t believe people actually thought activision would be fine with it
I know Right
Well tbf bo2 plutonium still exists🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Why didn't Activision just buy H2M like Rockstar did with FiveM?
Can we get MrRoflWaffles on the pod?
😉
No
@@GoingDarkPodcastyes please
YOU BET BLACK OPS 6 BETA IS GOING TO GET HACKED TO HELLL NOW!
RIP H2M, WE COULD'VE GONE BACK TO THE MACHINIMA DAYS
Im devastated and heartbroken just like everyone else. I think this said a whole new low for Activision and this is way worse than they think going forward. I guess what we can take from this is move forward and do not support a company who does not like you and find something new. I know it's hard for cog community buying a cod game every single year but I think it's time to stop and it will never stop but we can get it where low as possible in sales then they have previously and that should scare them for the long run. You cannot do something like this and expect get absolutely no consequences. That is all I'm going to say and I'm going to be playing other games. I'm done with COD officially
This is such a stupid financial move from Activision Microsoft..i was so excited for BO6, but since this news, I'm not sure ill buy BO6. I was definitely going to until i saw the news. I bet there are loads of other people thinking the same thing
Mods like Fallout London are allowed, but somehow something like this isn’t allowed? The one time it feels like an exception to the rule too considering you need to own the game. I don’t really understand.
Microsoft dgaf what Activision does sure there’s some policy but it’s pretty light make no mistake this was a 100% Activision
I find Guided Quests being controversial to be kinda stupid on the communities part.
There is absolutely nothing negative about it(unless Treyarch fails to make the steps un-datamineable).
There is still an Easter Egg/Main Quest Hunt.
TH-cam Guides are still going to be relevant especially earlier on(not only because the Guided Quests won't be out right away, but also because you get a reward for doing it unguided(and a bonus reward for doing it unguided before guided comes out)).
More people being able to do it means they can start making them harder to solve again(since casuals will be able to play the guided mode).
I don't agree with it losing it's identity as an Easter Egg, because it still needs to be solved.
H2 being shutdown the way it was is pretty messed up.
I saw it coming from a mile away, but it definitely should've been C&D'd sooner, or just let it be since it made them some sales on MWR.
Bethesda embraces mods, look at the team literally remaking oblivion in Skyrim 😮 activision is 100% selfish 😢
RIP MW2R 💔💔
Rip mw2r you will be missed 😢
everyone report activision to the bbb for a rug pull scheme
Just a heads up. I know everybody keeps saying OG MW2 is not safe to play on Steam, but I have been playing it for about 3 months straight almost every day up until this point without a client and have had no issues. Is there a chance? Perhaps, but in my personal experience I have not run into anything fishy. Mainly modders, but nothing that is a security concern. So either the concerns are overblown or I have just been super lucky every day for 3 months straight. Do with that info what you will though.
Why tdawg so happy about this on the thumbnail 😭😭
Yeah thumbnail was urgent hahaaj
✌THANKS!
This was obvious, H2M should have just shut their mouths, finished the mod, tested it quietly, LAUNCHED IT THEN TOLD PEOPLE (that way we could have made tons of backups and distributed it amongst ourselves, Since the game was supposed to have a server browser anyone who got it initially and those who had it shared with them could still play Online, and If they kept LAN support X-Link Kai would get around ANY server shutdown) But NO, they had to go loud giving Activision WEEKS to get their lawyers enough time to kill it in its cradle.
This was NOT JUST Activision greed, it was BLATANTLY SET UP TO FAIL KNOWING THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!! We ALL KNOW Activision was going to do this one way or another, they want to be the only option for MW2 content.
But they just HAD to make everything public to market themselves to Activision! Maybe the next time there are vacancies in a CoD Dev studio their names will be on the quick contacts lists and THAT was the entire reason for this project (Just like SM2) Not JUST greed, Not JUST Incompetence, But a plan from the start. Assholes on all sides.
1v1 each other in ncaa
We are back!!!! We are so close to BO6 beta !!!!! Great episode ❤
I'm sorry, I've played most zombies bar bo3, I am a ranked player, but why are activision and ester eggs a thing? They're making it a mission/task not an ester egg! An Easter egg is a hidden thing! You're not meant to know about it. Again, making zombies not zombies.
Why can't we have the cold war progression week upgrade your perks outside of the game that sound that Why can't we have the cold war progression week upgrade your perks outside the game that sound that was way better
Its all made, sell it to activison and boom we get it
HOW do they mess this up
Literally bought mwr/iw on pc yesterday... honestly f*ck this company, I'm definitely not buying bo6, even if the beta is good
Refund that shit
@@acev3521 just sent in my request
Reason why they did it they copied from mw2 remaster campaign and added some campagain maps for multiplayer
@@brandonbergfelt536 they didn't give a reason
@@Mattsuki and another reason is they didn’t give the green card for them to do it they should of waited to do it too before they said yes they did copy some things in game too so yeah
I was going to stay up to midnight and play the mod right as it comes out. But no my excitement fed right into activisions hands and I spent like 8 hours on mwr, so no refund. Shit company, Shit games.
I heard people getting a refund at 8 hours just tell them you wanted to play a mod which doesn’t exist anymore.
Unfortunately the h2m got a cease and desist but still excited for the episode and bo6 tho
Oh well😂
There’s going to be issues with bo6 zombies ppl are just to hype
Honestly might as well make another podcast CoD will always be trash the proof is literally in front of our eyes. What’s even the point anymore?
This sucks. Refund
#protestCOD
No
@@Austin2tall97 yes simp
Also, I know you're more mp, but saying mods can't rival with new games ? I bought mwfake2 for the campaign. And I'm playing world at war or BO3 more than mwII. I didn't even buy MWIII. Bo3 thanks to custom was above COLD WAR and blackcell in steam sales.
Plus sorry to say but the majority and mainstream youtubers are dumb and corrupted by activision.
Playing more activision content than the real fun.
Also activision were scared of BO6 being taken out of attention. They were scared of the mod. Publisher has no rights anymore. I don't care about the "I understand from a publisher point" we talk about activision here.
And chopper, you have the fucking T7 patch for BO3 Zombies.
L activision
W Activision
@@Austin2tall97funny rage bait
All of these Call of Duty TH-camrs need to do their part and NOT BUY BLACK OPS 6 AND TELL THEIR FANS NOT TO and maybe we’d see a change.
Not buying BO6 or any call of duty PERIOD!!! I don’t care how much hype there is, NO HYPE OF CALL OF DUTY IS GOING TO MAKE ME BUY THEIR GAME!!!
Good