Great video; Good old Garratt keeping up it's good work in Zimbabwe without the now everywhere ubiquitous back-up diesel somewhere behind in the train where one can't be sure whether the shiny steam loco in front is pulling or the diesel at the back pushing!
Sadly, this was a charter for our benefit .... and, you've guessed it .... there was a diesel on hand just in case. I'm pleased to report that it wasn't needed though. Andy
I must say Ken that I'm really concerned that a change of management in Zimbabwe will mean an end to the Garratts. By the way, only one of us is a lad ! Dandan's my Mongolian wife (met her alongside the JingPeng Pass).
Thank you Chris. Sadly, there's very little steam to see around the world these days and travel is impossible anyway. Fortunately, we have more steam in the UK than anywhere else ..... Andy
They must get a lot of line fires with all the grass etc. very close to the track. Wonderful locomotives. Always amazed at their size running on 3'6" track.
Strangely, I have never seen a lineside fire there. I believe they have spark guards within the chimney. They are very large for such narrow gauge track. I have thought the same myself! .... Andy
It's the way you captured the images and presented them ! At 7:55, for example, it's almost like a teacher delivering his piece in a lecture theatre before a class of students who may not all have seen the real thing at work. Well, I'm one of them and I thoroughly enjoy it !
I remember being told in 2008 that all steam in Zimbabwe had ended. I was living in Botswana at the time and could have gone on a trip... but they were still going in 2017?
And should be still steamable in 2021 but they're only kept alive for those who pay for them and, of course, there's no tourism right now. So the future of Zimbabwe's Garratts is hanging in the balance ...... Andy
Well spotted !!! They were there only because we'd asked them to be there, I'm afraid. In reality they didn't seem to grasp the idea that the Garratt was the point of interest. It annoys me, every time I watch this sequence too ! Incidentally, the guys standing on the opening bridge were there of their own accord. However, they were watching us - not the Garratt. Andy
Please do. I'd be honoured. Please also look at some of my other videos from Africa - th-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJyctu0J7os_-kgl3ilcodJy.html ....... Andy
Let us hope that ZNR will save remaining steam locomotives for preservation.The drivers and firemen there seem not only to enjoy working on them they have also acquired great skills in their maintenance which helps keep them on the rails after so many years.
Thank-you for a fine video. It's encouraging to find anything that works in Zimbabwe in view of the stories we read coming from there. The locomotive (whichever one it is) looks superficially sound, and clearly goes well. Would I be right though, in assuming from the plate shown that the boiler hasn't been inspected since 1991?
Yes. You would be absolutely correct. They're kept working by swapping parts around - including boilers. It's very difficult to be sure which loco you're watching because every part is swapped from another loco !
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam They don't inspect the boilers!?! The greatest boon to safety was the American Society of Mechanical Engineers establishing rigorous boiler inspection standards!
@@gregorymalchuk272 Boilers are inspected and repaired to the best of their ability. However, the country and the railway is short of money so repairs are not carried out to a standard that European and US engineers would demand. Andy
Only two parts to this particular train, I'm afraid, but take a look at the playlist for more videos from my two trips to Zimbabwe - th-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJyctu0J7os_-kgl3ilcodJy.html ....... Andy
The Garratt featured here is a 2-6-2+2-6-2, however there is still a Class 16A 2-8-2+2-8-2 hauling coal at Hwange Colliery. Take a look at the clip below, also taken in July 2017 - th-cam.com/video/HiyveZ-5KDU/w-d-xo.html
@@theextremeanimator4721 There's 6029 running regularly in Australia and the Welsh Highland Line has several Garratts all in beautiful condition, in Wales. Take a look at this video - th-cam.com/video/ZIUzjNtijaE/w-d-xo.html Andy
It would vary enormously, Raymond, depending mainly on the driving wheel diameter. I've personally seen Garratts travelling at around 55mph (88kph) ..... Andy
I have to confess Roy that I know the reason for the full turn ! They only turned it because we asked to see the turntable working - the loco was already facing the right way .... sorry !!
I don't think I can agree with your interpretation of a Garratt being a tank engine but I have to confess that the Garratt was turned especially for us just to demonstrate the turntable as much as the locomotive !! ..... Andy
@@robertrich663 I think in normal service, they'd run whichever way around they already were although, as with most steam locomotives, it's normal to run chimney first ...... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam I agree, in normal service the Garratts worked both ways. The big exception in the world to 'chimney first' are the Southern Pacific 'cab in front' mallets which had the tender coupled at the smokebox end, giving the crew the best forward of any steam engine. Needless to say when they operated passenger trains it can't have been any improvement for the poor passenger!
I must say some steam whistles are just amazing. I did think he rather overdid it a bit on this occasion though. Just listen to this one - th-cam.com/video/grvW6WudjqA/w-d-xo.html and also this Chinese one - th-cam.com/video/xPJx24HDOW0/w-d-xo.html and I'm just working on some stuff I filmed in Java in 2007 and one of those has more whistle than "puff" !! Andy
All steam in Africa is doomed. Politician upheaval throughout the many countries there and the general lack of interest in maintaining even a small fleet of operational locomotives for the fledgling tourist industry is too expensive
👍👍is my comment as I seldom type anything. Also gave you an official thumbs up. I have never given anyone a thumbs down. With one exception, sometimes when I do no like a comment.
I agree that steam locomotives are bad polluters. Most of what you can see in the smoke, though, are the particulates which fall to the ground rapidly. The real damage is done by greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. These are given out in just as large a quantity by road vehicles, aircraft, ships and power stations. There are only a tiny number of steam locos left working and they are beautiful and fascinating machines. They are a valuable relic from our industrial past and need to be saved from destruction. The pollution from these few steam locos is TINY compared to the pollution from the billions of road vehicles, aircraft and ships in the world. Getting rid of just a handful of steam locomotives will make no difference to the world but getting rid of the pollution from road vehicles would probably sort the problem in one move. If you’d like to save our Earth from disaster, please get rid of your car or motor bike, don’t buy anything that has been delivered by air, sea or lorry, switch off your electricity at home, never go on holiday by aircraft or car. Not easy, is it? Andy
You've obviously never done it! As a child I'd always want to feel the blast from the chimney. It's a bit like standing at the end of an airport runway as a jet takes off!! Andy
Many of us as scholars used to travel by train 1965,65,66,67,68 from East London all the way to Ndola Wednesday morning till Sunday morning, ‘twas a great trip,
Oh my god, the thumbnail had me thinking that the rear section of the garratt was actually a switcher 🤣
Same
Thank you very much again
I'm see a 14A garrat in action!
It's my favourite steam .
Thank you very much for video.
And thank you very much for your comment. Andy
Great video; Good old Garratt keeping up it's good work in Zimbabwe without the now everywhere ubiquitous back-up diesel somewhere behind in the train where one can't be sure whether the shiny steam loco in front is pulling or the diesel at the back pushing!
Sadly, this was a charter for our benefit .... and, you've guessed it .... there was a diesel on hand just in case. I'm pleased to report that it wasn't needed though.
Andy
Another good one lads, thanks for sharing. Hopefully news of turmoil in Zimbabwe will not affect the railways
I must say Ken that I'm really concerned that a change of management in Zimbabwe will mean an end to the Garratts. By the way, only one of us is a lad ! Dandan's my Mongolian wife (met her alongside the JingPeng Pass).
Apologies for any offence caused. The term "lads" is a bit of a Northern generic term. Please accept my apologies Dandan.
It's OK Ken. I do the same !!
Thank you. I have been sat here feeling awful
Great films many thanks for filming everything. It must be fantastic to be there and watch these great locomotives in real life regards
Thank you Chris. Sadly, there's very little steam to see around the world these days and travel is impossible anyway. Fortunately, we have more steam in the UK than anywhere else ..... Andy
Good Video there is life left in 525 . I hope it will be preserved in working order and not left to decay.
I fear it will only limp on as long as there are foreigners willing to spend money to see it working.
525 is already derelict this is 519 carrying the plates off 525 for the camera's. 519 today (December 2017) is at Hwange in daily service.
They must get a lot of line fires with all the grass etc. very close to the track. Wonderful locomotives. Always amazed at their size running on 3'6" track.
Strangely, I have never seen a lineside fire there. I believe they have spark guards within the chimney. They are very large for such narrow gauge track. I have thought the same myself! .... Andy
Brings back memories of my childhood, on that Northholt flyover between NorthEnd and Sauerstown Kenilworth..thanks for posting !!!
It must have been great to see these Garratts every day.
Thanks for sharing this great H/D Steam action video from July,2017.
.... and thank you for your kind comment !
Great old stuff. Looking good. Looks like some Pullman cars in the mix.
That's just the standard colour scheme for Zimbabwe Railways ... Andy
Great video! Nice to see the locals watching infectious steam!
I'll confess - we did encourage them a little ! Andy
This is an excellent lecture for me !
What are we teaching you??
It's the way you captured the images and presented them ! At 7:55, for example, it's almost like a teacher delivering his piece in a lecture theatre before a class of students who may not all have seen the real thing at work. Well, I'm one of them and I thoroughly enjoy it !
I'm not sure if you're making fun of me !!! Anyway, thank you very much for your kind comment. I'm sure you'll pass your exams !
I'm absolutely sincere ! Thank you.
I remember being told in 2008 that all steam in Zimbabwe had ended. I was living in Botswana at the time and could have gone on a trip... but they were still going in 2017?
And should be still steamable in 2021 but they're only kept alive for those who pay for them and, of course, there's no tourism right now. So the future of Zimbabwe's Garratts is hanging in the balance ...... Andy
I'm curious what was so interesting to look at that none of the kids on the bridge turned to watch the train after it passed?
Well spotted !!! They were there only because we'd asked them to be there, I'm afraid. In reality they didn't seem to grasp the idea that the Garratt was the point of interest. It annoys me, every time I watch this sequence too ! Incidentally, the guys standing on the opening bridge were there of their own accord. However, they were watching us - not the Garratt. Andy
Great vid of 525. mind if I share the link to the Rhodesian Railways FB group?
Please do. I'd be honoured. Please also look at some of my other videos from Africa - th-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJyctu0J7os_-kgl3ilcodJy.html
....... Andy
Let us hope that ZNR will save remaining steam locomotives for preservation.The drivers and firemen there seem not only to enjoy working on them they have also acquired great skills in their maintenance which helps keep them on the rails after so many years.
You are right. I don't have a lot of hope, though, that these Garratts will be kept steaming for much longer .... Andy
Thank-you for a fine video. It's encouraging to find anything that works in Zimbabwe in view of the stories we read coming from there. The locomotive (whichever one it is) looks superficially sound, and clearly goes well. Would I be right though, in assuming from the plate shown that the boiler hasn't been inspected since 1991?
Yes. You would be absolutely correct. They're kept working by swapping parts around - including boilers. It's very difficult to be sure which loco you're watching because every part is swapped from another loco !
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam They don't inspect the boilers!?! The greatest boon to safety was the American Society of Mechanical Engineers establishing rigorous boiler inspection standards!
@@gregorymalchuk272 Boilers are inspected and repaired to the best of their ability. However, the country and the railway is short of money so repairs are not carried out to a standard that European and US engineers would demand. Andy
Last boiler inspection December 1991!
Where did you find that date? I doubt it was that long ago - even in Zimbabwe ..... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam I was reading the inspection plate you zoomed in on. or thats how I interpreted it.
@@raymondleggs5508 You're probably right about the plate but it just won't have been updated ... that's more like Zimbabwe!! ...... Andy
Really wonderful
Just 6 years ago but these sights are no longer available .... Andy
When are you going back for part 3, 4 & 5
Only two parts to this particular train, I'm afraid, but take a look at the playlist for more videos from my two trips to Zimbabwe - th-cam.com/play/PLNKEdhmODMJyctu0J7os_-kgl3ilcodJy.html
....... Andy
Espectacular saludos desde Argentina
Gracias ..... Andy
I had never seen a 2-8-2-2-8-2 before and certainly not one actually working on a daily bases!
The Garratt featured here is a 2-6-2+2-6-2, however there is still a Class 16A 2-8-2+2-8-2 hauling coal at Hwange Colliery. Take a look at the clip below, also taken in July 2017 -
th-cam.com/video/HiyveZ-5KDU/w-d-xo.html
Classical Steam is under a slow revival
And Garrats should be part of it.
There are several Garratts in preservation around the world ... plus these few in Zimbabwe which can be steamed to order!
Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam but they all should be in good condition...
@@theextremeanimator4721 There's 6029 running regularly in Australia and the Welsh Highland Line has several Garratts all in beautiful condition, in Wales. Take a look at this video -
th-cam.com/video/ZIUzjNtijaE/w-d-xo.html
Andy
I am Indian 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 Zimbabwe biutyful country
It's a very beautiful country but very poor (because badly run for many years). Andy
Rhodesia was the very beautiful country.
Top speed of garrett locomotive?
It would vary enormously, Raymond, depending mainly on the driving wheel diameter. I've personally seen Garratts travelling at around 55mph (88kph) ..... Andy
Whistle sounds like it has a cold and a sore throat
It does a little doesn't it? These Garratt whistles are fab when they're working properly ..... Andy
What sort of whistle is it? It sounds like the ones used on 15Fs.
It seemed to me that the loco was turned then realized it would be facing the wrong way when returned to Bulawayo.
I have to confess Roy that I know the reason for the full turn ! They only turned it because we asked to see the turntable working - the loco was already facing the right way .... sorry !!
kinda odd seeing it on a turntable, since garrats are a type of tank engine
I don't think I can agree with your interpretation of a Garratt being a tank engine but I have to confess that the Garratt was turned especially for us just to demonstrate the turntable as much as the locomotive !! ..... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam Surely many SAR Garratts, esp the GL's were run bunker first so that the crew were not asphyxiated in the tunnels!
@@robertrich663 I think in normal service, they'd run whichever way around they already were although, as with most steam locomotives, it's normal to run chimney first ...... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam I agree, in normal service the Garratts worked both ways. The big exception in the world to 'chimney first' are the Southern Pacific 'cab in front' mallets which had the tender coupled at the smokebox end, giving the crew the best forward of any steam engine. Needless to say when they operated passenger trains it can't have been any improvement for the poor passenger!
@@robertrich663 Agreed ...... Andy
why did they turn a garratt around
I have to confess, it's because we asked them to !!
I TC
Mmm HV
Aolol that stock built when it was Southern Rhodesia !!!
Yep! - Andy
As a fireman if my engine looked like that I would been fired......
They made extra smoke for our filming Neil !! Andy
0:13-0:25 Great whistling talent! :-) Sometimes I wish that you could do the phe phe phe phe phe phe pheeeue on most railways!
I must say some steam whistles are just amazing. I did think he rather overdid it a bit on this occasion though. Just listen to this one -
th-cam.com/video/grvW6WudjqA/w-d-xo.html
and also this Chinese one -
th-cam.com/video/xPJx24HDOW0/w-d-xo.html
and I'm just working on some stuff I filmed in Java in 2007 and one of those has more whistle than "puff" !!
Andy
Wow, this is a big difference to the Long-short-long!
Whistling here is totally out of control .... a bit like eating, drinking .... oh, and the economy !! Andy
Agreed! lol
All steam in Africa is doomed. Politician upheaval throughout the many countries there and the general lack of interest in maintaining even a small fleet of operational locomotives for the fledgling tourist industry is too expensive
I agree. It really is a miracle that a handful of Garratts still hangs on in Zimbabwe. They could disappear at any moment. ........ Andy
No need of turn table 2 gpood vaporish tonish rools ♥️
One advantage of a Garratt - Andy
Another of the countries whose raiways were built by the British !!
Correct - Andy
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That's a thumbs up, then? Thanks! ........ Andy
👍👍is my comment as I seldom type anything. Also gave you an official thumbs up. I have never given anyone a thumbs down. With one exception, sometimes when I do no like a comment.
@@tomharrington1393 Thank you very much, Tom ........ Andy
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I agree that steam locomotives are bad polluters. Most of what you can see in the smoke, though, are the particulates which fall to the ground rapidly. The real damage is done by greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. These are given out in just as large a quantity by road vehicles, aircraft, ships and power stations. There are only a tiny number of steam locos left working and they are beautiful and fascinating machines. They are a valuable relic from our industrial past and need to be saved from destruction. The pollution from these few steam locos is TINY compared to the pollution from the billions of road vehicles, aircraft and ships in the world. Getting rid of just a handful of steam locomotives will make no difference to the world but getting rid of the pollution from road vehicles would probably sort the problem in one move. If you’d like to save our Earth from disaster, please get rid of your car or motor bike, don’t buy anything that has been delivered by air, sea or lorry, switch off your electricity at home, never go on holiday by aircraft or car. Not easy, is it?
Andy
That's still way too much locomotive for what it actually pulls! What a waste!
They used to pull more. Now they're all that's left - Andy
Who would want to stand on a bridge and get a face full of hot smoke. Give me a break here.
You've obviously never done it! As a child I'd always want to feel the blast from the chimney. It's a bit like standing at the end of an airport runway as a jet takes off!!
Andy
Many of us as scholars used to travel by train 1965,65,66,67,68 from East London all the way to Ndola Wednesday morning till Sunday morning, ‘twas a great trip,
Add this to the list of things I do NOT want to do. Be a Paint Salesman in Africa. Nothing appears to be maintained!
And this locomotive had been specially tidied up for us !
Great opportunities.
Which is precisely why Africa is what it is.