Great to hear that the ecu settled down and the codes went away! Ipd plenum is best at smoothing out flat spot in power 4500-5500. Dyno's show a good 14-20 hp bump through the old flat spot, but only about 7-10 hp at the top end. This is not a "night and day" power modification, but in conjunction with other mods can be a nice addition. The GT3 Throttle body works best in conjunction with a hi flow exhaust system. Without hi flow exhaust you will most likely just feel better throttle response from the bigger throttle body because you are letting more air in with the same old throttle pedal positions, but about the same hp as before. Again, as a system it works well with other intake/exhaust/ecu mods. Great update!
Back when I use play with nodding cars, the first thing I did to increase power was install headers. That always gave a noticeable difference. Love your drone shots and the music is awesome. Can't wait for part 3.
I’ve been on the fence about the IPD Plenum for so long especially for the 2.7L so far as gains are concerned...go in with no expectations and perhaps it’ll turn out for the better. Nonetheless, the parts themselves look awesome in the bay and simply knowing the fact that more air is entering the engine in a less restricted fashion is satisfying! Now should I go in on this upgrade???
Thanks for these two videos. I have the same car, same wheels even and have been reading about this mod. Seems not worth it by itself but potentially worth it with an exhaust swap and remap. I'll keep mine original a bit longer! Love the drone shots.
On my 986, i have a 997 plenum and throttle body(74mm). Car acted a bit weird at the first start but after driving, the ecu learned the mod. I also have secondary cat delete pipes and a modded straight through muffler. Car screams and feels quicker but a tune would help a lot im sure.
Thanks for sharing! I saw the boost brother youtube video on the same plenum install. And they claimed that the performance is significantly better. This provides me with another perspective.
@@alsatch_ Let us know if the performance improves after the rough running is gone. I think the boost brothers also experienced no performance gain after the install. But the performance came into place afterward, on its own, without any flashing or tuning. It came supposedly after the computer learned of the increased airflow. Like everyone else, I'd love to only spend good money for a positive difference.
Dear Porsche 81, I'm also late to the party having just seen your Pt. 1 & 2 of the IPD plenum install. I also have an '06 Cayman S. A significant upgrade I would highly recommend is the Fabspeed Header & Maxflo muffler system. It is a great modification to increase performance and decrease weight. It might also maximize the effectiveness of the plenum. I highly recommend it. Thank you very much for the video and happy driving!
This mod NEEDS to be tuned for. You are putting your engine in danger by not tuning it. Just ask Flat6 Motorsports, they are the experts in these engines.
Thanks for the good luck. Great channel. Just bought an 06 cayman s with same mods on + exhaust and proper decent lower suspension. Dino at 320 bop. Feels a lot quicker than the last 2.9 PDK I had. All the best Graham
Hi there probably the combination mod as you said would make the ultimate difference, I must say I feel that the performance of my Porsche is more than adequate for normal roads,unless you intend to race it on a track,also taking into account the mods have to be declared on your insurance adding to the overall cost I suppose you have to weigh up whether it’s worth it or not.
TheYjmfan the more I think about this, I think I would have been better off starting with the headers. Everything together would be good, but this mod on its own so far is not much different.
My first guess was one of those corrugated lines was cracked or leaking causing unmetered air, leading to idle fluctuations and running lean. Easy enough to find with an unlit torch around any suspect joints. If the revs go up, then you are sucking in the propane or MAPP gas, and there's your leak. The other possibility is that it's all fine and your fuel trim tables just needed time to adjust and add more fuel to compensate for the increased airflow. The ECU has a fuel map, but it also has the ability - over time - to adjust the fuelling up or down by a SMALL amount for this particular engine. WHY? lets say one bank of cylinders has cam timing slightly different from the other bank, it's fuelling needs would be slightly different. Trim tables add or subtract very slightly from the main fuelling tables to adapt to the conditions of this particular engine. If you dramatically increase the airflow, then this would likely exceed the ability of fuel trim to fully compensate for the lean mixture. The fix would be to re-map the main fuel tables to allow the injectors to stay open a little bit longer at all times , boost the fuel pressure, or increase the injector size slightly.
Thanks for these videos. I have a 2008 Cayman S that I bought last August and I was thinking of doing the same mods that you’re doing. But after seeing all the check engine light trouble I think I’ll stay away from the plenum/ throttle body mod. I’m still planning on getting a Carnewal exhaust, and perhaps a high flow air filter.
Would love à behind the scenes on your filming. Who’s flying the drone? What’s the 2nd car with you?? Thanks for the content. Considering this upgrade when I finally pick up my 987.2 in the next few weeks!
Just curious with regards to the IPD plenum- do you get and strange noises? I’ve heard some people mention a supercharger like whine post installation. Thanks 👍
You have changed the capacity of the throttle bodies, but the map is the same, even though the engine will settle on its old map you are leaving HP on the table, get it mapped then you’ll get a before map figure and after map figure then equate that to your gains, I’d do intake and map together then you’ll see .... if you have not seen it, monky London did a video with a guy with a 986s have a look see what he did 👍🏻
Cheers, yeah i see what your saying and would make sense. Would it not make sense to also get the headers done before doing the map though? Or would the Map only effect the intake of air? Cheers.
Mate have you done the intake (airbox) if not your still drawing the same airflow ? Panel filters are not the one.... I reckon that’s about how far you should go, then get some weight out of the car 👍🏻, these companies will empty out pockets for headers etc.... Porsche tax writ large 🤪👍🏻
I’ve been reading around the forums and the IPD plenum along with an exhaust and the Cobb tuner seem to yield some very good results. Some have even said just headers and the tune alone have seen 20-30 horsepower. Good luck Satch
Nate Mallory cheers Nate yeah it sometimes makes me wonder if I may aswell have just done the headers and tune instead of the tb & ipd. Seeing as I have them I’ll just do all 3 and see what I get.
Driver 81 Porsche And not for nothing it may save your DME if they are all talking to each other properly via the tune. Pls hit us with a vid. Love the content 👍🏾
The drone shots are really great. I just cannot get over how much I like the ending of this video. what drone are you using? is it an auto follow or piloted?
Late to the party sorry if theres more videos about it..... but did you ever get it on the rolling road after this mod and an ECU remap? I've got 987 boxter and have to say between 2000 and 3000 it needs more kick. I have read ECU remap can potentially help but have not real solid info. Apparently Porsche did this to the car to pass decibels tests for EU standards?!
Blimey mate all credit to you for trying , but like you say you so should have dyno'd the Cayman before install as I;m sure I'd want to feel a marked difference for the 700 or so quid and all the hassle you've gone to.
Mike G yep I should have done that, somebody said it won’t matter too much though, so long as I dyno before and after the tune. Not sure how true that is but I’ll do it.
I put the IPD on my 996 and got exactly no gain. On a very light load the response became more on/off. For me the IPD is pure BS. Im an aerodynamicist by profession and I dont buy the explanations of the maker. The Reynolds number is so high anyways that dimples do not help … and fuel injection is later in the channel so I can not really see any vaporising gains either nor less condensing in the inlets aft injectors. And it is quite a bit heavier than the plastic OEM part.
MagicAyrtonforever I hear ya. The drone doesn’t pick up sound and haven’t yet got round to recording any decent engine sounds for the vids but I’ll get on it soon and start putting them on.
Bapo Rapo thanks for watching. I’m not 100% sure on that but hopefully somebody will be along shortly to help you.
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I watched the ALL 20 min of the 2 videos, just wanted to hear the admission sound pedal to the metal. disappointed with your lack of commitment driving a Porsche.
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Forgot to say. I’m handing out 10 years good luck for anybody who subscribes and comments 😎🤘
Haha
Only 10yrs? 😂
Great to hear that the ecu settled down and the codes went away! Ipd plenum is best at smoothing out flat spot in power 4500-5500. Dyno's show a good 14-20 hp bump through the old flat spot, but only about 7-10 hp at the top end. This is not a "night and day" power modification, but in conjunction with other mods can be a nice addition. The GT3 Throttle body works best in conjunction with a hi flow exhaust system. Without hi flow exhaust you will most likely just feel better throttle response from the bigger throttle body because you are letting more air in with the same old throttle pedal positions, but about the same hp as before. Again, as a system it works well with other intake/exhaust/ecu mods. Great update!
qikqbn77 yeah I definitely need to put my hand in my pocket again to see the best out of this mod. 👍
Back when I use play with nodding cars, the first thing I did to increase power was install headers. That always gave a noticeable difference.
Love your drone shots and the music is awesome. Can't wait for part 3.
Thanks Vincent I'm sure there will be more vids on this mod very soon :-)
Good honest review. Needs to be brought together with 200 Cel headers and a remap from a Porsche specialist and should show some good gains.
Mark Duffy I agree. I’m thinking I would have been better off starting with the headers 🤔
@@alsatch_ Can confirm, this coupled with a good set of headers and a tune turns this thing into a screamer
I’ve been on the fence about the IPD Plenum for so long especially for the 2.7L so far as gains are concerned...go in with no expectations and perhaps it’ll turn out for the better. Nonetheless, the parts themselves look awesome in the bay and simply knowing the fact that more air is entering the engine in a less restricted fashion is satisfying! Now should I go in on this upgrade???
Thanks for these two videos. I have the same car, same wheels even and have been reading about this mod. Seems not worth it by itself but potentially worth it with an exhaust swap and remap. I'll keep mine original a bit longer!
Love the drone shots.
On my 986, i have a 997 plenum and throttle body(74mm). Car acted a bit weird at the first start but after driving, the ecu learned the mod. I also have secondary cat delete pipes and a modded straight through muffler. Car screams and feels quicker but a tune would help a lot im sure.
MyLocksFlop sounds like fun mate. Il be doing the remap soon. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing! I saw the boost brother youtube video on the same plenum install. And they claimed that the performance is significantly better. This provides me with another perspective.
Nhat Tran yeah I also seen their video. They didn’t seem to have any rough running after installation though.
@@alsatch_ Let us know if the performance improves after the rough running is gone. I think the boost brothers also experienced no performance gain after the install. But the performance came into place afterward, on its own, without any flashing or tuning. It came supposedly after the computer learned of the increased airflow. Like everyone else, I'd love to only spend good money for a positive difference.
Dear Porsche 81,
I'm also late to the party having just seen your Pt. 1 & 2 of the IPD plenum install.
I also have an '06 Cayman S. A significant upgrade I would highly recommend is the Fabspeed Header & Maxflo muffler system. It is a great modification to increase performance and decrease weight. It might also maximize the effectiveness of the plenum. I highly recommend it.
Thank you very much for the video and happy driving!
This mod NEEDS to be tuned for. You are putting your engine in danger by not tuning it. Just ask Flat6 Motorsports, they are the experts in these engines.
A J agreed it will be done soon
Thanks for the good luck. Great channel. Just bought an 06 cayman s with same mods on + exhaust and proper decent lower suspension. Dino at 320 bop. Feels a lot quicker than the last 2.9 PDK I had. All the best Graham
Hi, did you ever get any dyno runs done after the plenum install?
Hi there probably the combination mod as you said would make the ultimate difference, I must say I feel that the performance of my Porsche is more than adequate for normal roads,unless you intend to race it on a track,also taking into account the mods have to be declared on your insurance adding to the overall cost I suppose you have to weigh up whether it’s worth it or not.
TheYjmfan the more I think about this, I think I would have been better off starting with the headers. Everything together would be good, but this mod on its own so far is not much different.
Thank you for your honesty 👍
Love the music at the end, real Cayman driving music! 😀
John S thanks john appreciate your support.
My first guess was one of those corrugated lines was cracked or leaking causing unmetered air, leading to idle fluctuations and running lean. Easy enough to find with an unlit torch around any suspect joints. If the revs go up, then you are sucking in the propane or MAPP gas, and there's your leak.
The other possibility is that it's all fine and your fuel trim tables just needed time to adjust and add more fuel to compensate for the increased airflow. The ECU has a fuel map, but it also has the ability - over time - to adjust the fuelling up or down by a SMALL amount for this particular engine. WHY? lets say one bank of cylinders has cam timing slightly different from the other bank, it's fuelling needs would be slightly different. Trim tables add or subtract very slightly from the main fuelling tables to adapt to the conditions of this particular engine. If you dramatically increase the airflow, then this would likely exceed the ability of fuel trim to fully compensate for the lean mixture.
The fix would be to re-map the main fuel tables to allow the injectors to stay open a little bit longer at all times , boost the fuel pressure, or increase the injector size slightly.
These cars are not meant to be driven at 2-3k rpm, and airflow-related mods will not affect low-end torque with a F-6 engine.
I wonder if a $1000 remap would be a better performance investment than just attaching the IPD on the intake.
Thanks for these videos. I have a 2008 Cayman S that I bought last August and I was thinking of doing the same mods that you’re doing. But after seeing all the check engine light trouble I think I’ll stay away from the plenum/ throttle body mod. I’m still planning on getting a Carnewal exhaust, and perhaps a high flow air filter.
Would love à behind the scenes on your filming. Who’s flying the drone? What’s the 2nd car with you??
Thanks for the content. Considering this upgrade when I finally pick up my 987.2 in the next few weeks!
Great video! Thanks for doing what you do for everyone.
Appreciate your comments Mike, I only do it if there is an audience like your good self.
Just curious with regards to the IPD plenum- do you get and strange noises? I’ve heard some people mention a supercharger like whine post installation. Thanks 👍
Thanks for your review Satch it is very helpful to get an honest opinion on this subject.
Love those shots over the moors (Stanhope Edmundbuyers?) Great video again. Keep them coming !
Bob Atwell thanks bob. Yes you got it in one. I just love it over that way. 👍
You have changed the capacity of the throttle bodies, but the map is the same, even though the engine will settle on its old map you are leaving HP on the table, get it mapped then you’ll get a before map figure and after map figure then equate that to your gains, I’d do intake and map together then you’ll see .... if you have not seen it, monky London did a video with a guy with a 986s have a look see what he did 👍🏻
Cheers, yeah i see what your saying and would make sense. Would it not make sense to also get the headers done before doing the map though? Or would the Map only effect the intake of air? Cheers.
Mate have you done the intake (airbox) if not your still drawing the same airflow ? Panel filters are not the one.... I reckon that’s about how far you should go, then get some weight out of the car 👍🏻, these companies will empty out pockets for headers etc.... Porsche tax writ large 🤪👍🏻
Anyway this is a great subject, because there are no real vids of what IPD gains are ? Everyone else wonders and you are cracking on with it 👍🏻
The Cayman really does look good and a great location. Nice video.
TellTaleTim thanks mate it was shot over weardale way. Great location. 👍
@@alsatch_ I'll have to go take a look... weather is improving so I'll be location hunting again.
Hey! Just noticed, where did you get the front Aeros from?
My brother for sure remap but drive it and have fun bro. Awesome video
I’ve been reading around the forums and the IPD plenum along with an exhaust and the Cobb tuner seem to yield some very good results. Some have even said just headers and the tune alone have seen 20-30 horsepower. Good luck Satch
Nate Mallory cheers Nate yeah it sometimes makes me wonder if I may aswell have just done the headers and tune instead of the tb & ipd. Seeing as I have them I’ll just do all 3 and see what I get.
Driver 81 Porsche And not for nothing it may save your DME if they are all talking to each other properly via the tune. Pls hit us with a vid. Love the content 👍🏾
The drone shots are really great. I just cannot get over how much I like the ending of this video. what drone are you using? is it an auto follow or piloted?
Coyote Vapor Works hi. Yes I use a magic pro drone with an auto feature which follows the car depending on my pre set commands. Cool or whAt?!
Great video, great music!
J Co thank you sir really appreciate it!😎👍
Late to the party sorry if theres more videos about it..... but did you ever get it on the rolling road after this mod and an ECU remap? I've got 987 boxter and have to say between 2000 and 3000 it needs more kick. I have read ECU remap can potentially help but have not real solid info. Apparently Porsche did this to the car to pass decibels tests for EU standards?!
The IPD Plenum makes the biggest difference in the midrange.
Thanks for another great video, nice to see you change it yourself! Did you do a dyno after?
Blimey mate all credit to you for trying , but like you say you so should have dyno'd the Cayman before install as I;m sure I'd want to feel a marked difference for the 700 or so quid and all the hassle you've gone to.
Mike G yep I should have done that, somebody said it won’t matter too much though, so long as I dyno before and after the tune. Not sure how true that is but I’ll do it.
Will you consider changing out the tail lights ? I’ve been looking for some for my boxster.
These are sweet www.xtunepower.com/product.php?id=ALT-ON-P98705-LED-RS
Mike Morgan I have not considered anything else but never say never.
Love the videos keep them coming
Thanks Rob really appreciate that. Plenty more coming soon.
Man those lobsters look great!
What headers cost less than a plenum?
I put the IPD on my 996 and got exactly no gain. On a very light load the response became more on/off.
For me the IPD is pure BS. Im an aerodynamicist by profession and I dont buy the explanations of the maker. The Reynolds number is so high anyways that dimples do not help … and fuel injection is later in the channel so I can not really see any vaporising gains either nor less condensing in the inlets aft injectors.
And it is quite a bit heavier than the plastic OEM part.
Nice one mate.
Davon Pointer thanks Devon appreciate you watching again. 😎👍
Remap would be ace!
Kyle Martin on the cards soon Kyle.
Driver 81 Porsche great series! Following :)
SHOULD HAVE DONE A BEFORE AND AFTER!
Dude did you ever go to dyno test?
I subscribed ages ago but can I still have a bit of luck please? Even 1 year!! 😂
Pistol Pete well of course. You get 15 years for already being a subber
Be nice to hear the engine instead of blowing up my speakers with music.. I enjoyed the video though thanks.
MagicAyrtonforever I hear ya. The drone doesn’t pick up sound and haven’t yet got round to recording any decent engine sounds for the vids but I’ll get on it soon and start putting them on.
Anyone know what to upgrade to take the handling to the next level on a 1998 986 boxster with the 2.5 motor
Bapo Rapo thanks for watching. I’m not 100% sure on that but hopefully somebody will be along shortly to help you.
I watched the ALL 20 min of the 2 videos, just wanted to hear the admission sound pedal to the metal. disappointed with your lack of commitment driving a Porsche.
Actually those fluctuations kind of remind me of a highly tuned american V8 swap, LOL.
Nice
16k view exact
That road is much too straight, you need the twistys!!!
Hello
The jg guy hello again nice to see you. 😎👍