When lenny was telling anyone who would listen he was the main man in the street fighting game Where were all these hard men who you say could beat him Easy to slag off a dead man But how many times did people see him beat in the street You’ve made bigger name off his back then you ever did as a fighter
Cliff Field lost four of his 15 pro fights, all by stoppage and all due to cuts above his eyes, including twice to Billy Aird and once to Richard Dunn. And Winston Allen lost a points decision to Billy Aird.
Winston Allen fought Frank Bruno and Joe Bugner given Lenny Mcleans record against decent pro's in the ring its certainly likely he would have beaten Mclean.
Come on Ray let Lenny rest in peace he certainly lives in your head amazing how people slag and get brave once people are no longer with us. Take care Ray
@@seanscanlon9067 Yeah I knew a guy said he chased Glasgow Godfather out of Glasgow but I’m not gonna get up in Social Media shouting about it. One name for you - Dave Courtney
Had a sniff of the old barmaids apron have we, Ray? You’re right about Frank Warren though. Bloke just faded into obscurity 🤷🏼♂️ Plus, if Lenny could hardly fight, then doesn’t that make Frank Warren an exceptional promoter as Lenny was such a big name at the time?
When he had a drink in him keep out of his way.The man was a bully.He would think it was funny to kick a man's crutches away at the bar.Seen it many times man had problems in his head
Hi Ray,Lenny and Roy were well known names in the unlicensed fighting, both were ok tbh but not great but its all about putting bums on seats Ray,they had huge following and boxing is all about money only,i feel people are wrong saying Lenny was worst fighter, considering he had no boxing experience he done ok,if Sykes done unlicensed but i dont think he would had he wouldhadwiped floor with 99% but drink was his downfall
Your TH-cam has so much potential Ray!! You could do more podcasts.. It worked great with Mr Fish and Terry (And you come over well with Chris Lambrianou, so why not do it??) Also, I was a paid member for a while. You should think about offering 'advance screenings' or unique posts for members only.. Maybe after 6 months of membership open up offers to a 5 minute skype 'face to face' etc I'd like to know if you knew some of my relatives for example? This post feels like you're diggin up over familiar to be honest. I've no doubt you're 💯 the real deal - once plugged in to the top echelons of crime. I like what you're doing with your walks around London Ray. Maybe interview people as you're walking? It was even nice you talking to the old dears and the bar manager on a couple of posts ago. You've got politics, fitness, true crime and many other things covered. What happened to Gary Stretch interview? Keep it coming but try not to get stuck in a rut Thanks for the entertainment mate!!
@@jackreagan7364 Some great advice Jack. Problem here is that Ray doesn’t have the attention span to let others open up - asking questions letting them answer in-depth - he isn’t able to let the conversation flow. His thought process doesn’t allow it. Pity as he’s charismatic but just doesn’t have what, let’s say Yammy has, the ability to go with the conversation no matter where it goes.
@@donalddorman17 Maybe you're right but perhaps you're not giving him enough credit? Someone like Terry Stone (Who reminds me of the late Eric Hall on speed!) is all ego and giggles and yet from all the shmoozing comes the occasional nugget of information! (Brian Richardson (Rolfe) was saying something along these lines after his recent interview) Ray's not half as hyper as Terry and he definitely gives Mr Fish time to expand on his views!!
@@jackreagan7364 Lol. Turbo Terry right enough! Again great points. Difference with Fish is he is a force that won’t be cajoled or dare I say it, intimidated by anyone, plus he knows how to handle Ray better than most. Old time friends… I’m a huge supporter of Ray but find he’s the cuckoo in the nest. Eventually turning on those that ‘feed’ him - so to speak. Have dealt out many many times my opinion to him. Good and Bad at times. Sometimes he get’s it but then sometimes his natural inclinations overpower his previous good intentions. Brian (Rolfe) did a wonderful job on Terry show. Then again Brian is well practiced (police interviews etc) in putting his side across without the restrictions (coppers etc) swaying him.
U meant 2 have loads of people on your pod chast but u never get any one plus I knew lenny McLean & u would of done u & Winston both together in or out of the ring u r a wrongna
Winston is right its all about levels and Mclean was not a boxer he was not even fit. Roy had some boxing experience and was a nice fella who never took liberties.
You're calling him out about not remembering who beat him but you can't remember the fights you had yourself! At least your contradictions are making you a living I suppose.
Nice one Ray 🕘 perfect time to catch this. Would have been great to see ya getting a fight with Lenny. I liked Cliff and Lenny but to have seen you do the business on em both would have been great had Frank Warren let use have it. Take care and have a good nights rest. Respect always. Jim n Debbie 💯👍🥊🙏
I agree with some of what you say but useless i don't think so against yourself yes but useless no i don't agree to say this when Lenny cant answer back is a bit unfair not to forget Lenny at 23 stone well
Lenny got beat up badly by Micky gluckstead in a pub in Hoxton over Lenny bullying mickys mate micky always said Lenny went down easier than expected. Roy was always the tougher guy especially before Lenny got on the steds ray you would of beat Lenny easy
@@jaywilson1921 you know he was a convicted child molester Lenny hurt him the man wrote the book after Lenny died you idiot there are loads of people who see Lenny hurt him fact he actually pissed himself ..
@@Jamie-sm9px what a load a bull there’s a load of people see Micky smash Lenny to bits including lennys friends carried Lenny out the pub mickys no child molester he was fitted up and that even comes out the boys, mother and that bent copper she was with
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When lenny was telling anyone who would listen he was the main man in the street fighting game
Where were all these hard men who you say could beat him
Easy to slag off a dead man
But how many times did people see him beat in the street
You’ve made bigger name off his back then you ever did as a fighter
They all waited a good 15-20 years after he was dead to talk recklessly about him
Cliff Field lost four of his 15 pro fights, all by stoppage and all due to cuts above his eyes, including twice to Billy Aird and once to Richard Dunn.
And Winston Allen lost a points decision to Billy Aird.
Lenny was no mug.
Winston Allen fought Frank Bruno and Joe Bugner given Lenny Mcleans record against decent pro's in the ring its certainly likely he would have beaten Mclean.
Come on Ray let Lenny rest in peace he certainly lives in your head amazing how people slag and get brave once people are no longer with us. Take care Ray
Rest in peace man was a bully.World is a better place without him
Leave the man alone
Fs Ray - stop it. 🙄
‘Frankie Warren is the worst promoter…’
Yeah alright mate… 🤦🏻♂️
It was Winston Allen saying that.
@@seanscanlon9067 Yes
@@seanscanlon9067 Yeah I knew a guy said he chased Glasgow Godfather out of Glasgow but I’m not gonna get up in Social Media shouting about it.
One name for you - Dave Courtney
@@donalddorman17 Yeah that's fair enough, but I just wanted to know if you thought it was Ray or Winston Allen saying that about Frank Warren.
Had a sniff of the old barmaids apron have we, Ray?
You’re right about Frank Warren though. Bloke just faded into obscurity 🤷🏼♂️
Plus, if Lenny could hardly fight, then doesn’t that make Frank Warren an exceptional promoter as Lenny was such a big name at the time?
Yeah it’s the old ‘if he had brains’ scenario 🤦🏻♂️
You know Lenny is the real deal when it took people 20+ years after he was dead to talk about him like he was nothing 😂
Ray we need you and fish on next weekend top stuff
When he had a drink in him keep out of his way.The man was a bully.He would think it was funny to kick a man's crutches away at the bar.Seen it many times man had problems in his head
You would do a lot better ray if you stopped slagging off the dead who can’t defend themselves
Get fish on big up the fish
I'll second that with ya mate 👍🥊💯
Look forward to the podcast be interesting if the pair of you discuss Roy Shaws capabilities. 👍
Hi Ray,Lenny and Roy were well known names in the unlicensed fighting, both were ok tbh but not great but its all about putting bums on seats Ray,they had huge following and boxing is all about money only,i feel people are wrong saying Lenny was worst fighter, considering he had no boxing experience he done ok,if Sykes done unlicensed but i dont think he would had he wouldhadwiped floor with 99% but drink was his downfall
ray that will be good to get winstone on if it happens dont forget you say things but it never happens so lets see
@@davesummers-mn3bq He’s already forgot… 🤦🏻♂️
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There is some truth in this video Ray 👍
Yawn yawn yawn yawn
He is dead. Out of lune.🐻
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Its all in rays book ........ hang on
Your TH-cam has so much potential Ray!! You could do more podcasts.. It worked great with Mr Fish and Terry (And you come over well with Chris Lambrianou, so why not do it??) Also, I was a paid member for a while. You should think about offering 'advance screenings' or unique posts for members only.. Maybe after 6 months of membership open up offers to a 5 minute skype 'face to face' etc I'd like to know if you knew some of my relatives for example? This post feels like you're diggin up over familiar to be honest. I've no doubt you're 💯 the real deal - once plugged in to the top echelons of crime. I like what you're doing with your walks around London Ray. Maybe interview people as you're walking? It was even nice you talking to the old dears and the bar manager on a couple of posts ago. You've got politics, fitness, true crime and many other things covered. What happened to Gary Stretch interview? Keep it coming but try not to get stuck in a rut Thanks for the entertainment mate!!
@@jackreagan7364 Some great advice Jack.
Problem here is that Ray doesn’t have the attention span to let others open up - asking questions letting them answer in-depth - he isn’t able to let the conversation flow. His thought process doesn’t allow it. Pity as he’s charismatic but just doesn’t have what, let’s say Yammy has, the ability to go with the conversation no matter where it goes.
@@donalddorman17 Maybe you're right but perhaps you're not giving him enough credit? Someone like Terry Stone (Who reminds me of the late Eric Hall on speed!) is all ego and giggles and yet from all the shmoozing comes the occasional nugget of information! (Brian Richardson (Rolfe) was saying something along these lines after his recent interview) Ray's not half as hyper as Terry and he definitely gives Mr Fish time to expand on his views!!
@@jackreagan7364 Lol. Turbo Terry right enough!
Again great points.
Difference with Fish is he is a force that won’t be cajoled or dare I say it, intimidated by anyone, plus he knows how to handle Ray better than most. Old time friends…
I’m a huge supporter of Ray but find he’s the cuckoo in the nest. Eventually turning on those that ‘feed’ him - so to speak. Have dealt out many many times my opinion to him. Good and Bad at times. Sometimes he get’s it but then sometimes his natural inclinations overpower his previous good intentions.
Brian (Rolfe) did a wonderful job on Terry show. Then again Brian is well practiced (police interviews etc) in putting his side across without the restrictions (coppers etc) swaying him.
@@donalddorman17 👍
U meant 2 have loads of people on your pod chast but u never get any one plus I knew lenny McLean & u would of done u & Winston both together in or out of the ring u r a wrongna
Winston is right its all about levels and Mclean was not a boxer he was not even fit. Roy had some boxing experience and was a nice fella who never took liberties.
You're calling him out about not remembering who beat him but you can't remember the fights you had yourself!
At least your contradictions are making you a living I suppose.
That’s why Lenny McLean bullied you in the gym isn’t it Ray. And you was petrified to stand up for yourself.
Lenny a BIG BIG name worldwide
Paul Sykes woulda done the lot of ya
Correct no problem with Paul doing them. . Roy Shaw tried it on 2 x with Paul . Didn't last long Paul soon put him in his place
You and fish are the best
Nice one Ray 🕘 perfect time to catch this. Would have been great to see ya getting a fight with Lenny. I liked Cliff and Lenny but to have seen you do the business on em both would have been great had Frank Warren let use have it. Take care and have a good nights rest. Respect always. Jim n Debbie 💯👍🥊🙏
Boring boring ray hill
Good 👍 yarn Ray have a great day.
If if if
I agree with some of what you say but useless i don't think so against yourself yes but useless no i don't agree to say this when Lenny cant answer back is a bit unfair not to forget Lenny at 23 stone well
6:18 100lbs is just over 45kg
Lenny got beat up badly by Micky gluckstead in a pub in Hoxton over Lenny bullying mickys mate micky always said Lenny went down easier than expected. Roy was always the tougher guy especially before Lenny got on the steds ray you would of beat Lenny easy
That’s not True glucksted pissed his pants he got hurt bad my dad was there he wrote that after Lenny died ..
@@Jamie-sm9px no he didn’t mickys books been written for years took years for it to get published Micky flattened Lenny with ease
@@Jamie-sm9px Micky wasn’t scared of no one if he had a problem with someone mickys there I know
@@jaywilson1921 you know he was a convicted child molester Lenny hurt him the man wrote the book after Lenny died you idiot there are loads of people who see Lenny hurt him fact he actually pissed himself ..
@@Jamie-sm9px what a load a bull there’s a load of people see Micky smash Lenny to bits including lennys friends carried Lenny out the pub mickys no child molester he was fitted up and that even comes out the boys, mother and that bent copper she was with
Alright Champ He Sounds like he needs to do the sledge hammer trick . Not Sure about his Comments ax you know Words are Cheap . Be Luvky
Who gives a shit?
Ye but you’re nobody are you Ray. U was nothing in any realm nobody knows you or your name