I'm a a Bears fan. I think the Bears and Giants have at least one thing in common this season: How's the O Line gonna play? If the answer is putrid or worse ...
Thomas didn't play much last yr. He is elite LT. Schmittz didn't. We got elumayand runyan and stinnie and just signed the raiders best o lineman from last year
Thank you. Everyone is saying how Caleb has so many weapons... maybe so, but can he get the ball out on time? (I am not a Bears fan, but would like to see them succeed this year)
I loved Barkley when he was here but at pick 2 ,I was expecting adrian Peterson, he will not be missing piece for eagles because offense and running game was not the problem with sanders and swift. Singletary will match Barkley stats last year, not wow spectacular plays but just production
Just realized watching this, Tiki left after a couple years with Eli, and the defensive line was bolstered by another edge rusher. Does someone see a pattern here? @QHarlan they just added John Runyan Jr and Jermaine Eluemunor in free agency. O-Line will be better at least. Maybe DJ finally gets some time back there so we can see what he's really got. This is going to be the best O-Line he has played with yet.
If the offensive line couldn’t block anyone then why did the offense immediately move better with the backups and less weapons and have the majority of deep balls?
I partially agree with you. Yes, the O-line is a major factor in the Giants' success the season, if not the most important one. But another thing that people miss from last season is that the play calling was abysmally conservative when DJ was in. Either Kafka wasn't confident in himself, his QB, or both.
@@chidorisnake22 that’s absolutely true. I believe the exposure plan actually started the year before. They started out showing how they can get production by hiding the weaknesses of Jones and Barkley. After sneaking out a good record and the QB and RB payment noise started they called the games straight and basic to expose reality and the losing streak started. Once still in the hunt and with expectations the second half was a failure.
@@chidorisnake22 I believe Dabes first didn’t want to call for Jones plus learn his job, then he let Kafka call it how he wanted after trying to run and get an HC job. He let Barkley pick his run types which was right into the back of the line and hope for an untouched hole.
I’m excited to see how the o-line performs, but just like last camp Jones doesn’t look natural or comfortable at the position even when there’s no threat of contact. They gave him one preseason drive after paying him in order to not fracture his already fragile confidence. In his 5th year after his first playoff win then playoff embarrassment.
I think o line has improved better skill players. Defense has been solid, if 1 player on offense and Defense steps and not our stars,players you don't expect similar to 2011 when jpp and Cruz made big jumps
What is a “successful” season for the giants this year? Certainly not a deep playoff run, let’s be realistic. If they can get 7 wins and just show some stability on offense I’d call that a success. They have plenty of cap space and draft picks to improve going forward.
Are you talking about Jones looking good in the videos where the defense is walking and not trying to cross the line? When he’s staying and holding the ball for 5 seconds? When it’s sped up he’s sacked at 3 seconds and still inaccurate without the threat of being touched. 👎🏾
Let’s check your evaluation skills. Who gives the best chance for deep walking in TDs, Jones or Lock? What will you say when Jones is again the worst deep ball thrower on the roster for another season?
Can't throw a deep ball when you have less than 2 seconds to throw the football. Giants gave up 85 SACKS last year (2nd most all time) with practice squad level line men.
The Giants need to score more than 21pts a game and I think they will IF the O line is improved and gives Daniel Jones time to throw. People need to realize they are going to be a passing team this year throwing deep to Nabers Hyatt Wan'dale and Slayton. The defense up front will be good but the secondary looks raggedy which could be a problem that's why I say they must score more than 21pts to 24 pts.
Dak is currently 2-5 in the playoffs and despite what happens this season or next season, he is poised to make like 60 million + a year whether he stays with Dallas or not. If he doesn't win a playoff game this year or even make the playoffs, how is that inevitable contract any different than Danny's a couple years back when he only has 1 more playoff win on a way better team? Nobody cares about a regular season Randy. Herbert is getting paid 50 million a year and hasn't even won a playoff game yet. Oh, and he currently has plantar fasciitis, an injury that LINGERS.
While i dont think Singletary is as good as Barkley, i think he will be a good back. As far as seeing what DJ has this year, i think we all know what we have with him at this point.
They didn't talk at all about the 1 thing most likely to hold this team back from being decent... the same thing that has held them back for the last decade... the offensive line. The line HAS to improve or it won't make any difference how great Nabers is or how much Hyatt improves or whether Daniel Jones returns to form or any of that... Evan Neal has to improve, their free agents have to be better that what they had, Thomas has to stay healthy... otherwise it makes zero difference who is QB.
If Daniel jones looks good in social media it proves to everyone that we shouldn’t care about off season videos. You can isolate a single video or any nfl qb ballin. Don’t fall for it!
it’s like he didn’t watch hard knocks at all keeping saying they gave DJ a contract n not Saquon they offered saqoun twice before DJ n that’s why gave DJ n agent all the leverage speak facts
All this talk about Saquon. The decision to not sign him was not about just this year. It is about in 2 and 3 years if he is as injured as he’s been do you really want to be paying 13 million to a guy not on the field.
How the loss of their best offensive player makes them better makes no logical sense. Daniel Jones isn't better without Barkley, even with a new WR1. Easier to double WR1 than having to stack the box vs Saquon. Not buying Daniel Jones lead NYG 👎👎
In that so called “Good season” that got Jones paid, he only put up points against the Vikings twice and the Colts in the second half of the season and playoff game. That’s 2 wins in 3 productive games. That’s like Eli only having 3 TDs total in 2 SB games and getting 2 MVPs. Good feeling, but not actually good.
This show makes a mountain out of a mole hill when it comes to the Giants. Bottom line is Saquon was not good enough to carry a franchise. It’s just the way the NFL is nowadays. The RB is not the premiere position it once was. 40 million for a QB now is not that much money in the grand scheme of things. Believe me I wish Jones was better but he hasn’t had the best situation to succeed and he’s just not talented enough to overcome it.
Daniel is the least of the Gmen problems the last 5 years. Terrible coaching carousel, Bad draft picks and one of the worst oline in the history of the league.
Has a Giants fan, since 2016 our O-line has been terrible… How hasn’t that not been addressed yet? I really was hoping the chargers would pass on Joe Alt.
@jarrettscott so has the QB play lol.. his been an average QB his entire career..is the line bad,yes...but let's not act like he's gonna turn into some elite player cuz the offensive line improves..we can still use an upgrade at QB,whenever the opportunity presents itself
My man’s Rich lol still bitter about the made up story that the Giants going to move up for 3rd pick for Mc Carthy lol. I know he wishes the Giants get humiliated against the Vikings week one but Sam Darnold will be the starter catching the L.
Daniel Jones Twitter clips are a disaster what’re you guys talking about? And no one is “excited”. Our fanbase has been fighting a war over this shitty QB for years.
Chris Brockmans hate for Trevor Lawrence/young QBs is pathetic. Daniel Jones DOES NOT have more playoff Wins than the 55 million QBs Love,Trevor,Burrow all have 1 win or more.. Daniel 1 win (and Daniel came in ahead of all those QBs and had more time to get the wins) Do some research it’s your job as the stooge😂
Yeah that Vikings season was a mirage on a historic level and any pundit tracking history was seeing that. It really helped the new head coach set his culture in motion when they were winning in spite of a lot of factors, but it didn't hide the fact that they were winning in spite of that.
Daniel Jones is a very good player period. He does have a concerning injury history, we never blocked for him since he's been here and he can make frustrating mistakes. 40m is completely reasonable, and this being his "last shot" with the Giants is reasonable.
Motor had 90% of Saquon's production on less touches at half the price with less of an injury history. This is only a difficult decision if you are uneducated, emotional, uninformed, biased and unintelligent.
Rich Eisen is one of the worst analysts. So biased and dishonest and anti Danial Jones. He falsely reported previously that the Giants were done with him. Such a bad reporter. He knows nothing.
It makes me sick that the Vikings are going to lose to a scrub like Daniel Jones because they CHOOSE SAM DARNOLD. Who had 3 good preseason reps with the niner all-stars.
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I'm a a Bears fan. I think the Bears and Giants have at least one thing in common this season: How's the O Line gonna play? If the answer is putrid or worse ...
As a giants fan we should be at least average with the pick ups we made and new oline coach. But I won’t put money on it 😅
Thomas didn't play much last yr. He is elite LT. Schmittz didn't. We got elumayand runyan and stinnie and just signed the raiders best o lineman from last year
You are absolutely correct. O-line is so important.
Thank you. Everyone is saying how Caleb has so many weapons... maybe so, but can he get the ball out on time? (I am not a Bears fan, but would like to see them succeed this year)
I loved Barkley when he was here but at pick 2 ,I was expecting adrian Peterson, he will not be missing piece for eagles because offense and running game was not the problem with sanders and swift. Singletary will match Barkley stats last year, not wow spectacular plays but just production
Just realized watching this, Tiki left after a couple years with Eli, and the defensive line was bolstered by another edge rusher. Does someone see a pattern here? @QHarlan they just added John Runyan Jr and Jermaine Eluemunor in free agency. O-Line will be better at least. Maybe DJ finally gets some time back there so we can see what he's really got. This is going to be the best O-Line he has played with yet.
I just want to see him beat the cowboys.
It all and I mean all, revolves around the O line. Period. That is the real missing piece.
I think they played another game after that Minnesota game 🤔. As fan that game was pretty embarrassing
No O line. Oh, they were there, but just getting in the way don't cut it.
@@Sarconthewolfsame one as the game before though
They had my behind fly from Florida to Philly to see them get spanked in the second round
If the offensive line couldn’t block anyone then why did the offense immediately move better with the backups and less weapons and have the majority of deep balls?
I partially agree with you. Yes, the O-line is a major factor in the Giants' success the season, if not the most important one. But another thing that people miss from last season is that the play calling was abysmally conservative when DJ was in. Either Kafka wasn't confident in himself, his QB, or both.
@@chidorisnake22 that’s absolutely true. I believe the exposure plan actually started the year before. They started out showing how they can get production by hiding the weaknesses of Jones and Barkley. After sneaking out a good record and the QB and RB payment noise started they called the games straight and basic to expose reality and the losing streak started. Once still in the hunt and with expectations the second half was a failure.
@@chidorisnake22 I believe Dabes first didn’t want to call for Jones plus learn his job, then he let Kafka call it how he wanted after trying to run and get an HC job. He let Barkley pick his run types which was right into the back of the line and hope for an untouched hole.
I’m excited to see how the o-line performs, but just like last camp Jones doesn’t look natural or comfortable at the position even when there’s no threat of contact. They gave him one preseason drive after paying him in order to not fracture his already fragile confidence. In his 5th year after his first playoff win then playoff embarrassment.
Dj is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be, with a better o line and time to throw we'll remember why he earned the nickname Danny "Dimes"
A miracle.
I think o line has improved better skill players. Defense has been solid, if 1 player on offense and Defense steps and not our stars,players you don't expect similar to 2011 when jpp and Cruz made big jumps
What is a “successful” season for the giants this year? Certainly not a deep playoff run, let’s be realistic. If they can get 7 wins and just show some stability on offense I’d call that a success. They have plenty of cap space and draft picks to improve going forward.
Are you talking about Jones looking good in the videos where the defense is walking and not trying to cross the line? When he’s staying and holding the ball for 5 seconds? When it’s sped up he’s sacked at 3 seconds and still inaccurate without the threat of being touched. 👎🏾
Let’s check your evaluation skills. Who gives the best chance for deep walking in TDs, Jones or Lock? What will you say when Jones is again the worst deep ball thrower on the roster for another season?
Can't throw a deep ball when you have less than 2 seconds to throw the football. Giants gave up 85 SACKS last year (2nd most all time) with practice squad level line men.
Jones is WAY better than Lock, if you don't know this then you have never seen Lock play. Devito has a chance at QB2. Lock was such a waste of money
Eagles crapped the bed last half of the season.
The Giants need to score more than 21pts a game and I think they will IF the O line is improved and gives Daniel Jones time to throw. People need to realize they are going to be a passing team this year throwing deep to Nabers Hyatt Wan'dale and Slayton. The defense up front will be good but the secondary looks raggedy which could be a problem that's why I say they must score more than 21pts to 24 pts.
Defense plays well and Nabers is a star on offense.
Dak is currently 2-5 in the playoffs and despite what happens this season or next season, he is poised to make like 60 million + a year whether he stays with Dallas or not. If he doesn't win a playoff game this year or even make the playoffs, how is that inevitable contract any different than Danny's a couple years back when he only has 1 more playoff win on a way better team? Nobody cares about a regular season Randy. Herbert is getting paid 50 million a year and hasn't even won a playoff game yet. Oh, and he currently has plantar fasciitis, an injury that LINGERS.
While i dont think Singletary is as good as Barkley, i think he will be a good back. As far as seeing what DJ has this year, i think we all know what we have with him at this point.
They didn't talk at all about the 1 thing most likely to hold this team back from being decent... the same thing that has held them back for the last decade... the offensive line. The line HAS to improve or it won't make any difference how great Nabers is or how much Hyatt improves or whether Daniel Jones returns to form or any of that... Evan Neal has to improve, their free agents have to be better that what they had, Thomas has to stay healthy... otherwise it makes zero difference who is QB.
You were wrong at the combine
John Mara is no Wellington Mara.
Same amount of superbowls. John is a great owner and its fans like you that give the Giants a bad name.
Wellington Mara was no wellington Mara either. The NFL forced him to bring in someone to run the team because they needed NY to be good
@@TheCman183 People cry when you don't do what they want.
@@TheCman183oh stop it. He’s horrific. He should have no role in personnel, he doesn’t let his coaches or gms do their job
If Daniel jones looks good in social media it proves to everyone that we shouldn’t care about off season videos. You can isolate a single video or any nfl qb ballin. Don’t fall for it!
I worry more about Daboll meddling with things than I do Daniel Jones
it’s like he didn’t watch hard knocks at all keeping saying they gave DJ a contract n not Saquon they offered saqoun twice before DJ n that’s why gave DJ n agent all the leverage speak facts
I think Saquon is going to BALL OUT in Philadelphia. Now that he is playing behind a line that can block for him. Full disclosure I'm a Giants fan.
All this talk about Saquon. The decision to not sign him was not about just this year. It is about in 2 and 3 years if he is as injured as he’s been do you really want to be paying 13 million to a guy not on the field.
NFL prob twisted John Marra arm due to being 100th season 2 have team on hardknocks
3:10 he took out his entire whatnow?🧐
This dj rap is the same one for five years.
This is weird to see these guys pump up my team waiting for the smack to happen as I watch it
Just get Nabers the ball bro lol
A competent organization would’ve moved off jones after year 2
Until the Giants give up on the Daniel Jones mistake they will be a sub 500 team... Period.
How the loss of their best offensive player makes them better makes no logical sense. Daniel Jones isn't better without Barkley, even with a new WR1. Easier to double WR1 than having to stack the box vs Saquon. Not buying Daniel Jones lead NYG 👎👎
If they double Malik then slayton, Hyatt, and Wandale will thrive
For the Giants to be successful, 10 of the 16 NFC teams will have to forfeit the 2024 season.
🤣
Giants any shock nfc
Really hope so...
Kaper who?
In that so called “Good season” that got Jones paid, he only put up points against the Vikings twice and the Colts in the second half of the season and playoff game. That’s 2 wins in 3 productive games.
That’s like Eli only having 3 TDs total in 2 SB games and getting 2 MVPs. Good feeling, but not actually good.
You only see a nabers highlights because designed so people can justify the pick. If you went to camp you know most of those plays were called dead
This show makes a mountain out of a mole hill when it comes to the Giants. Bottom line is Saquon was not good enough to carry a franchise. It’s just the way the NFL is nowadays. The RB is not the premiere position it once was. 40 million for a QB now is not that much money in the grand scheme of things. Believe me I wish Jones was better but he hasn’t had the best situation to succeed and he’s just not talented enough to overcome it.
Daniel is the least of the Gmen problems the last 5 years. Terrible coaching carousel, Bad draft picks and one of the worst oline in the history of the league.
He's definitely not the LEAST of the problems
Has a Giants fan, since 2016 our O-line has been terrible… How hasn’t that not been addressed yet?
I really was hoping the chargers would pass on Joe Alt.
@@kevind6965 let's not act like attempts haven't been made to address it..
BUT he is the “Bad Draft Pick” 👀😂.
Janiel Dones is the MAIN problem because the Qb is the most important position on the team.
@jarrettscott so has the QB play lol.. his been an average QB his entire career..is the line bad,yes...but let's not act like he's gonna turn into some elite player cuz the offensive line improves..we can still use an upgrade at QB,whenever the opportunity presents itself
kirk cousin not kirk warner rich....
Warner was the qb the year the giants drafted Eli which is what he was talking about
My man’s Rich lol still bitter about the made up story that the Giants going to move up for 3rd pick for Mc Carthy lol. I know he wishes the Giants get humiliated against the Vikings week one but Sam Darnold will be the starter catching the L.
Daniel Jones Twitter clips are a disaster what’re you guys talking about?
And no one is “excited”. Our fanbase has been fighting a war over this shitty QB for years.
they make the same excuse for daniel every year. 😂😂
I know.. im a Giants fan and its sickening
@@dannyduds1058giants would have sucked even if we had burrow.
There’s no way anyone thinks Jones is a franchise quarterback. They know he’s not good and gotta be talking just for show
The key to success is for Daniel Jones to not play like himself
Key ingredient to be successful this season, don’t be the Giants…
Chris Brockmans hate for Trevor Lawrence/young QBs is pathetic. Daniel Jones DOES NOT have more playoff Wins than the 55 million QBs Love,Trevor,Burrow all have 1 win or more.. Daniel 1 win (and Daniel came in ahead of all those QBs and had more time to get the wins) Do some research it’s your job as the stooge😂
He's referring to Trevor/Love who have 1 and Tua has 0 - but yes he should have said same not more.
A successful Giants season? Isn't that the definition of an Oxymoron?!
Rich… you keep talking about jones winning a playoff game against the Vikings. My guy my eagles last year was the 2022 Vikings frauds
Yeah that Vikings season was a mirage on a historic level and any pundit tracking history was seeing that. It really helped the new head coach set his culture in motion when they were winning in spite of a lot of factors, but it didn't hide the fact that they were winning in spite of that.
Nabers is lighting it up, and Jones still hasn't proven that he's worth $47 million this year. John Mara continues to be clueless
DJ has been lighting up 11 on 11's? Nah he's actually had a very shake training camp so far. Lots of missed throws.
Daniel Jones is a very good player period. He does have a concerning injury history, we never blocked for him since he's been here and he can make frustrating mistakes. 40m is completely reasonable, and this being his "last shot" with the Giants is reasonable.
Motor had 90% of Saquon's production on less touches at half the price with less of an injury history. This is only a difficult decision if you are uneducated, emotional, uninformed, biased and unintelligent.
Rich Eisen is one of the worst analysts. So biased and dishonest and anti Danial Jones. He falsely reported previously that the Giants were done with him. Such a bad reporter. He knows nothing.
Dak needs an Owner like Mara
7 wins would be surprising. As would Jones not being planted on the bench after week 9.
I haven't seen Janiel Dones lightening up anything lol
He lit up his bank account.
@@junehanzawa5165 facts
Eisen is a giants fan and it shows
He's a life-long die-hard Jets fan
@@timflint25 he’s turning
@anthonylemanski9032 he shouldn't LOL the misery for Big Blue fans is almost as bad as what Gang Green fans already deal with
He's a new Yorker so I'm sure there's a soft spot. But his jets delusions prove his loyalty. They're outrageously homer
Giants will be lucky to win 6 games
They got 6 last year with the 3rd string qb and a lesser oline. Go throw money on it then buy dawg I bet they hit the over
All the footage from training camp throws by DJ have been floaty ducks and slightly off target… not good.
It makes me sick that the Vikings are going to lose to a scrub like Daniel Jones because they CHOOSE SAM DARNOLD. Who had 3 good preseason reps with the niner all-stars.
We lose enough games to get the #1 Pick lol lol 🤦🏾🤦🏾
Any chance the Giants are considering moving to CFL?
This guy's got jokes....
Without Saquon the Giants are NOTHINGGG!
Mara enjoying the high point of Giants season; August week 1!
Mara was the Biden of Hard Knocks...
philly collapse incoming
WTF is wrong with these guys? Do you guys not watch Giants fucking football. Am surprised at you Brock