I've skiied many Austrian resorts but not this one. It's on my to-do list now! What a beautiful run and great scenery. Yes please! Excellent filming, too. Thanks. John, UK.
you HAVE to do it. it's mighty expensive but the coolest thing is, you can pass the border over to switzerland (right where the video starts) and ski another whole different mountain (Talschaukel)
As someone who skied this slope many times (and even last week) I can confirm the most steep part is not the entrance of the slope, but the part after the narrow path (which is labelled 14c). 70% grade is exactly 35 degrees, so I am not sure what you are trying to say? All 70% grade pistes are 35 degrees. That is quite steep on ski's. The Harakiri in Mayrhofen is 78% or 38 degrees, which is not much steeper than this run. People that call 70% a red run obviously have no experience skiing whatsoever.
@@Marchah Let's keep this discussion in English :) Wether a slope is icy changes every week. Mostly in March, most slopes are icy in the morning, and a bit soft from noon. Actually, currently due to high temperatures, intermediates and even beginners can safely ski most black runs.... they are so slushy that it's very easy to control your speed on them. Remember that a 78% slope isn't 78% all the way. The run in this video is actually very steep after the narrow path. It just doesn't show on camera.
@@davesmulders3931 Lets face it, people who worry about whether on on piste run is difficult or not has obviously never spent 2 hours searching for one of their skis in powder, 2 miles from civilisation!
@@mattwachsman4937 I've tracked my speed with an app before and I can say that 40+ feels FAST. This is coming from an adrenaline junkie too lol. I kept trying to break 50 and I could only do it like twice because it was hard to find a slope that was steep enough even when straight lining and crouching to be more streamlined. This video is the best example of the go pro effect I've ever seen. It does zero justice to reality.
Given the time this was uploaded and the location, the blackness of this track lies at the bottom, where you get to wait in queue with possibly infected skiers.
Siete delle persone fantastiche, per sciare così bene. Anch'io una volta ero un sciatore, essere così in alto mi sembrava di toccare il cielo. Questa è una manna data da Dio per tutti noi, per divertirsi con amici e amiche. Grazie mille ciao.
Hoellkar is a black run these days? I remember it as one of the more relaxing “autobahns” in Ischgl. That said: skiing fast is not that challenging….try to lay down some elegant carving curves. The snow and terrain are made for that!
Keeping left at the top of the Palinkopf brings you onto the start of the 'Smuggler's Run', which takes you into the Samnaun Valley in Switzerland. It's a great place to stop for a rosti or beer. BTW, I had my brand new Stocklis stolen from a ski-rack outside the Ice Bar, which you passed at the bottom of the Hollencar at the end. The Ice Bar was usually an early-morning haunt for coffees, before it became inundated with posers flaunting all the latest gear and never skiing.
And both of them aint the fastest , not even in Ischgl. You cant go straight down there but there are slopes (like if you go left from where he finished the slope) where you can go just straight where atleast i got 134kmh . Obv the other one Could be faster but that aint safe even if there are no ppl cause you will fly over the slope lol
The fish eye effect of the go pro dampens the impact of the slope, known as the go pro effect. I imagine that the slope is a black because for portions of it it contains long stretches of steep terrain with no easy way for a skier to stop if they do fall.
@@Alexskiing hello i tought you may not see so im writing here i want to make this type of videos too what do hou use for sperd altitude... I would be so happy if you could awnser
What is all this black and blue stuff that ppl talk about does it only apply to skiers? I’ve been snowboarding for three years now and always wondered what that meant
Had no idea is the steepest or hardest. Just came back from Ischgl and I loved it there but I cannot say I was impressed with the steepness of the groomed runs. On the other hand, off-piste you can find some challenging terrain. To me the steepest seemed to be 4a just before intersecting 7.
Try 7a. It's a red run with a fairly steep pitch of 42 degrees (or 90%). It used to be black but hey, you need a red run down the valley so now it's red. That is the steepest run of Ischgl, and... the best part is the steepest part is so narrow you cannot pass anyone. Seeing it's branded red, also novices go down that route, so better bring your a-game to avoid accidents.
@@michaelg8841 true! I’ve had friends go from not being able to even stand up on a pair of skis to red slopes (in between blue and black, I know not every country uses red slopes) in a matter of hours! All it takes is someone pushing you! I’ve had a similar experience snowboarding I feel like. (Besides falling and getting my arm hurt first day of the trip once) Quick progression is easy in the beginning. On the second day I was tumbling down a black slope with relative control.. albeit I maybe wouldn’t put it as good.
@@erikhjortsater5461 dude that is not the way it is supposed to be... a person who is driving red slopes after a couple is a real danger to everyone one the slope. Especially for himself...
@@masterchief-vd1xs No, not really. Of course you aren't doing it if you don't feel confident enough to do it. The slope was wide and no one was speeding. If you're the beginner, everyone else need to watch out for you, not the other way around. It was perfectly safe on a wide slope with few other people.
GoPro distorts image considerably. Try looking up on YT a GoPro video from a slope you've seen in real life, and you'll be surprised by the difference.
Hi Mark, yep the Gopro's wide angle makes it look a lot less steep I think it's the second steepest in-bound run in Austria so it's pretty firmly in the black category
It’s steeper than it looks and it depends on the day you go that top section can be icy 🥶 however it’s not that difficult really. Isgul is great resort!
omg looks very dificult but i think i would give it a shot if not many people were there ;D beacuse im skiing slowly and i feel uncomftable when skiers are going fast i feel like they wouldnt want me there
No !! We were all slow skiers at one stage so do not feel uncomfortable !! Going around a slow skier is very easy on those wide pistes so you wont be a problem for any decent skier !!!
@@amblincork ah thank you it’s nice so know that 👍🏻, sadly due to covid I wasn’t able to go on skiing vacation this year, and we had planned on going to val thorens Im France..
Gut gemacht. Die Kopfbewegungen könnten etwas ruhiger sein. Dann ist das Bild auch ruhiger. Aber das muss man erst einmal hin bekommen . Ein großes Lob. Gruß Rainer
Maybe other trails around there are that steep but FatMap topo map tells me 14A is only 30degree incline and 14C is 35 degrees. There's a short stretch in the middle where it's steep but it's just an average black diamond in North America.
He passes the lift station (C5 lift) around 2:47. This lift takes you up in a couple of minutes. To get there in the first place you take the lift C2 hollkär (from höllboden, restaurant at the end of the movie) and then ski the red slope down which holds to the right and gives you access to the lift up.
1:15 really stepping into it. The difficulty seems lower because of the lack of idiots out of their depth. It seemed like pretty pro skiers riding with you. The hardest part at the end when you hit 60 mph was avoiding hitting the other skiers/riders on the merge IMO. Beautiful scenery. It seems you are surrounded by mountains so vertigo isn't as bad as it would be on that grade. Keep having fun. Love your videos.
I depends on the conditions and the number of people on the slope. He clearly tried to wait for the other people to be far enough away before he started. 🤔 There's no point in being reckless, just to go fast.
![[4K] Skiing Ischgl, 10km Continuous Top to Bottom From Palinkopf 2864m, Austria, GoPro HERO11](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9DQ8iJdoBEw/mqdefault.jpg)
I've skiied many Austrian resorts but not this one. It's on my to-do list now! What a beautiful run and great scenery. Yes please! Excellent filming, too. Thanks. John, UK.
you HAVE to do it. it's mighty expensive but the coolest thing is, you can pass the border over to switzerland (right where the video starts) and ski another whole different mountain (Talschaukel)
John farr, mein absolutes Lieblings-Skigebiet, die Abfahrten, die Bergwelt, die tollen Lokalitäten einfach einmalig...I love it 💖
What is the best ski resort ( biggest and cheapest)?
@@daniss_mm i liked Crans Montana in Switzerland
john farr, I love this so beautiful, Austrian resort...my favourite...you also can pass the swiss skiing- mountains...it's fantastic 👌🤍💙
I hit 68mph once at Stevens Pass in Washington State back in 2010. 60 is pretty easy to hit if traffic is light and the snow is well-groomed.
I have great memories of learning to ski in Ischgl about thirty five years ago
man, its been over 10 years since I've been there the last time and I still remember those slopes ^^
Amazing! I did this run in 2018. Always remembered how damn steep it was and this video randomly enters my recommended
As someone who’s skied many slopes around 70% grade I think it’s pretty safe to say that’s about 35 degrees if being generous
As someone who skied this slope many times (and even last week) I can confirm the most steep part is not the entrance of the slope, but the part after the narrow path (which is labelled 14c). 70% grade is exactly 35 degrees, so I am not sure what you are trying to say? All 70% grade pistes are 35 degrees.
That is quite steep on ski's. The Harakiri in Mayrhofen is 78% or 38 degrees, which is not much steeper than this run. People that call 70% a red run obviously have no experience skiing whatsoever.
@@davesmulders3931 vandaag toevallig de harakiri gedaan
.. buiten t feit om dat deze erg ijzig is is die een stuk steiler dan de piste in dit filmpje.
@@Marchah Let's keep this discussion in English :) Wether a slope is icy changes every week. Mostly in March, most slopes are icy in the morning, and a bit soft from noon. Actually, currently due to high temperatures, intermediates and even beginners can safely ski most black runs.... they are so slushy that it's very easy to control your speed on them.
Remember that a 78% slope isn't 78% all the way. The run in this video is actually very steep after the narrow path. It just doesn't show on camera.
Show yours
@@davesmulders3931 Lets face it, people who worry about whether on on piste run is difficult or not has obviously never spent 2 hours searching for one of their skis in powder, 2 miles from civilisation!
What a Buzz, love the freedom of the slopes....
Perhaps the GoPro distorts the viewpoint, but that certainly didn’t seem like a black run in any shape or form!
I'm actually curious at how fast a lot of my runs are. I feel as though most of the time I'm at least ripping at 40+
@@mattwachsman4937 I've tracked my speed with an app before and I can say that 40+ feels FAST. This is coming from an adrenaline junkie too lol. I kept trying to break 50 and I could only do it like twice because it was hard to find a slope that was steep enough even when straight lining and crouching to be more streamlined. This video is the best example of the go pro effect I've ever seen. It does zero justice to reality.
Great filming I really like Ischgl. Especially the Schatzi bar
I see you re a man of culture
Love that there are no trees in either sides of the trails.
I can FEEL this video
i‘m going skiing tomorrow and that motivates me a lot
Good job looking uphill
Do you need motivation for skiing!?
This can’t be a black track! For beginners yes!
This is not even a red piste. Maybe it's the corona piste
@@meonyt26 So you know “The Wall” in Switzerland I guess? Le pas de Chavanette! Waist high burps and the helicopter waiting downwards 😊
@@os6219 Yes I’ve skied the wall. I was thinking this doesn’t look much like a black run to me. Doesn’t compare to the Chavanette.
Given the time this was uploaded and the location, the blackness of this track lies at the bottom, where you get to wait in queue with possibly infected skiers.
I’m Black ✊🏼
Awesome keep up posting these great videos!
Keep on doing this type of Videos 💪
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Siete delle persone fantastiche, per sciare così bene. Anch'io una volta ero un sciatore, essere così in alto mi sembrava di toccare il cielo. Questa è una manna data da Dio per tutti noi, per divertirsi con amici e amiche. Grazie mille ciao.
Hoellkar is a black run these days? I remember it as one of the more relaxing “autobahns” in Ischgl. That said: skiing fast is not that challenging….try to lay down some elegant carving curves. The snow and terrain are made for that!
Keeping left at the top of the Palinkopf brings you onto the start of the 'Smuggler's Run', which takes you into the Samnaun Valley in Switzerland. It's a great place to stop for a rosti or beer. BTW, I had my brand new Stocklis stolen from a ski-rack outside the Ice Bar, which you passed at the bottom of the Hollencar at the end. The Ice Bar was usually an early-morning haunt for coffees, before it became inundated with posers flaunting all the latest gear and never skiing.
In fact, the bitcoin rate is tied to the speed of this particular skier
61 mph Topspeed! Nice.
Looks like a normal family drive. well done
Thanks for the comment Richard!
Thank you for the video, yes it is a black and a very nice run too..:)
jokes on you
Pretty sweet, looks like a giant sheet of ice, hence the speeds
Wrong!!! Fastest Black is on the right way at 1:00 - You go on the left... sorry, I was there and ride there
so true
Waaaaaaaaaa
But the 70% is After they come together. So its not wrong
And both of them aint the fastest , not even in Ischgl. You cant go straight down there but there are slopes (like if you go left from where he finished the slope) where you can go just straight where atleast i got 134kmh . Obv the other one Could be faster but that aint safe even if there are no ppl cause you will fly over the slope lol
@@kingfreddy5268 Yes, underneath palinkopf lift there is a black slope. I went 125km/h no danger at all because you can just go uphill next to brake.
Is this on the Samnaun side or Ischgl? I was there the same time as you in february☺️
Cool Ischgl side I think
I love Ischgl and think I have done that run... at 6mph 😜😂
Fantastic!!! How it's possible add the information related to the speed? is there a tool?
Camera gps or something I guess?
Gopros do this.
Thanks guys!!
Hi I made a video about it recently it's pretty long but there are tags at the bottom so you can skip to the bit you need.
Hi i'm sorry . I have 2 questions. How You put it that grafith, which program si that. And... Where are you in the vídeo. I'm from argentina.
How do you check your speed? is it through the camera? or do you use a sports watch?
Did You switch Hypersmooth mode on?
Yep its the Gopro hero 7 black
Thanks for the ride ! !!
Very nice, but how does this qualify as a black run?
The fish eye effect of the go pro dampens the impact of the slope, known as the go pro effect. I imagine that the slope is a black because for portions of it it contains long stretches of steep terrain with no easy way for a skier to stop if they do fall.
I want to learn to do this black piste
Cool video! I wish GoPro didn't distort the video so it would be easier to see the real steepness.
Yeah I agree
Pretty much all cameras -, still or video, tend not to show steepness of hills
Da werden Erinnerungen wach 😃👍
That’s a black track?
Nice place, not existing though... i can see myself having a go in the early morning for warm up.
Bellissima discesa. Potrebbe dirmi dove si trova? Vorrei superare il tuo limite!😊😉
Ischg'l
what camera did you use?
Witch app you use 4 it?
Gopro telemetry overlay amazing program.
Ischgl. That most be the most ski-resort kind of name of all time.
Amazing piste quality. I’d be up for that
The whole of Isgul is so well looked after its an amazing resort
@@Alexskiing thanks for the tip, Alex. Will investigate
@@Alexskiing hello i tought you may not see so im writing here i want to make this type of videos too what do hou use for sperd altitude... I would be so happy if you could awnser
What is all this black and blue stuff that ppl talk about does it only apply to skiers? I’ve been snowboarding for three years now and always wondered what that meant
Also what’s piste
looks like a blue slope, idk, here in Switzerland black slopes really look back at you if you look at them. pure fear. maybe its the camera though...
Had no idea is the steepest or hardest. Just came back from Ischgl and I loved it there but I cannot say I was impressed with the steepness of the groomed runs. On the other hand, off-piste you can find some challenging terrain. To me the steepest seemed to be 4a just before intersecting 7.
Hi Eugen thanks for the comment. I fell in love with Isgul this year you are properly right about 4a.
Some of the blacks in Ischgl do seem as if they might be reds elsewhere ! Though Ischgl is wonderful !
Try 7a. It's a red run with a fairly steep pitch of 42 degrees (or 90%). It used to be black but hey, you need a red run down the valley so now it's red. That is the steepest run of Ischgl, and... the best part is the steepest part is so narrow you cannot pass anyone. Seeing it's branded red, also novices go down that route, so better bring your a-game to avoid accidents.
Beautiful
FANTASTIC !
Damn made it look easy
It is easy. Ski for a few days and you can do better mountains/hills
@@michaelg8841 true! I’ve had friends go from not being able to even stand up on a pair of skis to red slopes (in between blue and black, I know not every country uses red slopes) in a matter of hours! All it takes is someone pushing you!
I’ve had a similar experience snowboarding I feel like. (Besides falling and getting my arm hurt first day of the trip once) Quick progression is easy in the beginning. On the second day I was tumbling down a black slope with relative control.. albeit I maybe wouldn’t put it as good.
It’s easy to come down an mountain.
But hard to get confident at high speeds
@@erikhjortsater5461 dude that is not the way it is supposed to be... a person who is driving red slopes after a couple is a real danger to everyone one the slope. Especially for himself...
@@masterchief-vd1xs No, not really. Of course you aren't doing it if you don't feel confident enough to do it. The slope was wide and no one was speeding. If you're the beginner, everyone else need to watch out for you, not the other way around. It was perfectly safe on a wide slope with few other people.
This is my favourite run in ischgl. And it is steep - anyway! Try it - and enjoy!
Please also use kph additional to mph.
I have done this run....at a very modest speed though !
That was a red all the way through!
daniel schweber my thoughts entirely
@@jscho87 except that its 70%
GoPro distorts image considerably. Try looking up on YT a GoPro video from a slope you've seen in real life, and you'll be surprised by the difference.
Where is it?
Ischgl
how do you get the mph thing on there i want to start doing it cause im getting a gopro
A program called telemetry overlay
@@Alexskiing at thank you and I did get the gopro
Where is it, what ski resort ?
Isgul in Austria!
Merci pour le run et la découverte
👍❤️😎
J'aime beaucoup ce que tu fais et comment tu ski continue 💪
Un français ! 🤝🏼
A je suis pas le seul
This graphic on the left, is this some kind of corona curve?
Now be there at 9am when its freshly groomed. That'd be a dream
Why is this a black? Is it steeper than it appears?
Hi Mark, yep the Gopro's wide angle makes it look a lot less steep I think it's the second steepest in-bound run in Austria so it's pretty firmly in the black category
Seems to be smoother than it actually is
Was there new year’s 19/20 and the weather was like that for the whole week
how did you plot this speed vs time graph, also can a similar elevation vs time graph be plotted together with speed vs time
I use a program called GoPro telemetry extractor
Can you do a video, how you edit?
Can't say I rated the resort that much. There's a lot better resorts in Austria than there. The nightlife is also incredibly seedy.
Is this italy?
No Austria
Why is it black?
I am every year in Ischgl and piste 14A is my favorite piste. But I think, the fastest piste in Ischgl is piste 20 at Palinkopf 🙂
Its my favorite as well!
What app is being used?
HI Joe I use the GoPro app to add the overlays.
That’s groomed like a green run and looks like a landing strip
Haha
Looking forward to ski on this piste, doesn't look too exciting to be honest. But should certainly be enjoyable.
It’s steeper than it looks and it depends on the day you go that top section can be icy 🥶 however it’s not that difficult really. Isgul is great resort!
Damn bro, you are DAMN SKILLED
Me toi
omg looks very dificult but i think i would give it a shot if not many people were there ;D beacuse im skiing slowly and i feel uncomftable when skiers are going fast i feel like they wouldnt want me there
No !! We were all slow skiers at one stage so do not feel uncomfortable !! Going around a slow skier is very easy on those wide pistes so you wont be a problem for any decent skier !!!
@@amblincork ah thank you it’s nice so know that 👍🏻, sadly due to covid I wasn’t able to go on skiing vacation this year, and we had planned on going to val thorens Im France..
DUDE, I'd be shredding down that mountain on my board trying to break my 90mph record! That place looks 🙌🙌!
Great and informative !
Gut gemacht. Die Kopfbewegungen könnten etwas ruhiger sein. Dann ist das Bild auch ruhiger. Aber das muss man erst einmal hin bekommen . Ein großes Lob. Gruß Rainer
You sold yourself short, it showed 61! 😎😎😎😎
@Michael Jackson glad to see your still enjoying the video's 👍
Damn Skilled love them!😎😎👊👊👊
I once made a speedcheck with the snowboard. Did 76 mph ;-)
That's shifting on a Snowboard I haven't seen anyone get up to that pace on one!
BRO U SHOULD MAke the speed numbers black cuz they sometimes blend in with the snow
No they don't
@@felix-b4940 yeah sometimes they do
Hi Dead pool phantom john good idea. I will have a look at that for next season.
what skis and bindings do u have?
I have Atomic x9 with the standard bindings.
@@Alexskiing cool thanks.. Ski resorts shut down??
@@miketorre16 Yep pretty much all of them in Europe
@@Alexskiing wow, ya same here in the USA, was supposed to go Friday.. But not anymore... Down for the season.. Be safe man!!
Such a shame let's hope this mess is all over for next season. You too buddy.
I think the ones who dipnot like the video have no Idea of skiing
Maybe other trails around there are that steep but FatMap topo map tells me 14A is only 30degree incline and 14C is 35 degrees. There's a short stretch in the middle where it's steep but it's just an average black diamond in North America.
WOW... Amazing !!! Beautiful run. You went about 30 mph faster than I would want to. So, only 3 minutes to get down, but how long to get up there?
He passes the lift station (C5 lift) around 2:47. This lift takes you up in a couple of minutes. To get there in the first place you take the lift C2 hollkär (from höllboden, restaurant at the end of the movie) and then ski the red slope down which holds to the right and gives you access to the lift up.
That Black looks like a green tbh
i think you're exaggerating slightly
1:15 really stepping into it. The difficulty seems lower because of the lack of idiots out of their depth. It seemed like pretty pro skiers riding with you. The hardest part at the end when you hit 60 mph was avoiding hitting the other skiers/riders on the merge IMO. Beautiful scenery. It seems you are surrounded by mountains so vertigo isn't as bad as it would be on that grade.
Keep having fun. Love your videos.
"pro skier" stfu there werent any pros there lmao. A level 3 instructor could tear all these skiers including alex a new hole on their technique.
What are you trying to express, Donald?
Right down to the Schatzi
Welcome to Austria 😉
This one video puts New Englands mountains into shame
Haha I would love to ski in new England!
Was skiing this one and im not a pro...it wasn't that hard.
I thought the graph meant you were skiing uphill. Silly me.
Bruh
Quite slow for Ischgl's fastest piste 😆. Still a nice video 👍🏽
Alex, cool skiing! 👍🤘 Did you think somewhen about taking part in downhill competitions? I think you have not bad chances after additional training.
This dude means business...
No fricking way you went 100km per hour
Dubbs 60 kmph
yeah the scale is wrong.. its kmh instead of mph
Poor dubbs, doesn't know how fun skiing can be.
whencani I snowboard
Why not? 🤪
That looks fun!
Wish I could go 😔
That was awesome
me & my boys be breaking 70 mph on our little mt. here in ne az!! check the trace ski app. Look up sunrise mt.
I depends on the conditions and the number of people on the slope.
He clearly tried to wait for the other people to be far enough away before he started. 🤔
There's no point in being reckless, just to go fast.
My kind of trail… groomed and wide open !
Adorable
😎 Cool
Where is a black track here? You got it wrong
What in bound run would you class as black?