Michael Malice - Why US Intellectuals Supported the Soviet Union

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  • Michael Malice explains why so many US intellectuals supported the Soviet Union despite all of its atrocities.
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  • @Liberty-Vault
    @Liberty-Vault  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Are Soviet atrocities glossed over in the West compared to the Nazi regime?
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    • @anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808
      @anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      *Yes it is.*
      The interesting thing is that Communism & Nazism are both Left wing ideologies.

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, because of who did it. The Nazi crimes are amplified, exaggerated, and shoved down everyone’s throats because the victims wore tiny hats.
      The Bolshevik crimes are glossed over because the perpetrators wore tiny hats.

    • @skillfuldabest
      @skillfuldabest 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808incorrect.
      National-socialism has more right wing than left wing traits.
      Nationalism, Homogeneity, low time preference, hierarchy, personal responsibility, conservative values are all very right wing traits.
      Socialism and public property are left wing traits, but then again H actually said he believes in private property rights so his version of socialism was more right wing than the contemporary idea of socialism.
      So taking all this into account, nationalism-socialism is in fact a centre-right ideology.

    • @YourBestFriendforToday
      @YourBestFriendforToday 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Not just glossed over
      Out right ignored
      I learned 0 about Mao or Lenin’s evil.

    • @anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808
      @anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@skillfuldabest Nah, TIK did a deep dive, Hitler was a self-confessed Leftist in MK.
      And the Nazi's were a small Socialist party, it was never right wing.
      Nationalism can be Left or Right wing, for instance, Ho Chi Minh was both a Communist & Nationalist.

  • @Moonman63
    @Moonman63 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    When you’re captured by your ideology, it’s hard for facts to change your mind.

    • @kalui96
      @kalui96 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      it's so fascinating how Puritans come in so many shapes and sizes

    • @pippi5000
      @pippi5000 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oof. The NPC’s are hating the the fact I have a law license in California. There’s no convincing me she’s anything but a blithering idiot. Try reading one of her briefs before’16. Embarrassing

    • @morenitomoreno1282
      @morenitomoreno1282 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Perfect description of a libertarian

  • @azuth11
    @azuth11 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    "If you think admitting fault causes you to lose credibility, then you never had any in the first place."
    -Admiral Fujitora

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Their first mistake is assuming that 'the intellectuals' are the ones best equipped 'to understand things.'
    Never has been true. Intellectual simply means 'interested in ideas,'--good or bad, insightful or stupid.

  • @Libertaro-i2u
    @Libertaro-i2u 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Bidenomics may be bad, but it's cronyism, not communism.

    • @dennisshaper4744
      @dennisshaper4744 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except the bottom half get screwed just like communism. Banning energy that's effective, banning cars and appliances... All is a start. Fake elections...

    • @dennisshaper4744
      @dennisshaper4744 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And poor people aren't starving, they are living on absolute garbage that makes them ill...and overweight.

    • @MrD_2112
      @MrD_2112 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sovjetunion was crony "capitalism" to the core and then some. Remember Marx letters to Lincoln after the American Civil war. Guess who's twisting the meaning and concepts of words? 😉

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No one said it was. It IS the early stages of an American transition to communism. The decision to chase identity politics is a big part of that.

    • @gasstationpeanuts1814
      @gasstationpeanuts1814 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which is all well and good to say, but history doesn’t spring into existence from the ether. There are foundations laid down years, decades, and centuries in advance. If you believed that the next existential threat to the Republic will come from the left-wing of this country, which has been shoring up its hold on politics and the media for decades, then why would scrutiny on the Biden administration ever be a bad thing? To call Biden a communist is plainly incorrect, but to identify sympathies or similarities to progressivism, collectivism, etc. is perfectly worthwhile.

  • @chokkan7
    @chokkan7 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What he describes is so similar to the woke movement we are currently experiencing in the West. These devotees of Socialism have so convinced themselves of the utter rectitude of the premise that no fact can at this point dissuade them; they will morph reality to suit their ideal, no matter who has to be sacrificed in the process.

  • @davidstrohl
    @davidstrohl 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I lived in West Berlin from before the Berlin Wall fell until after German Reunification. Every single leftist belief that I was indoctrinated in about the benefits of Marxism/Leninism as a young man evaporated immediately after seeing how the East German people were forced to live. Capitalism has serious issues when it’s allowed to operate without any constraints, but communism, when made manifest as was done by the East Berlin and other communist regimes, just sapped people’s souls. In less than a year the entire country disappeared, a decision voted for overwhelmingly by the East German people themselves in their first free and fair elections since 1932. They discarded the bankrupt rotting husk of the GDR, a country that survived for 40 years only by being propped up by the USSR’s umbilical and extorting their West German neighbor for hard currency, without a second thought. No matter what, their futures could never be worse than their past under communism. And 35 years on, it really hasn’t been.
    “There are many people in the world who really don’t understand - or say they don’t - what is the great issue between the free world and the communist world… Let them come to Berlin!”
    -JFK, Berlin, 1963.

  •  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was never taught this in school, and I have a BS degree. Down with the teacher's union.

  • @malcolmarchibald6356
    @malcolmarchibald6356 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    You will own nothing, and you will be happy.
    - some nutjob.

  • @akaaccount
    @akaaccount 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    He’s making such a great point about the experimental scientific aspect of the Soviet Union. Everybody talks about the Cold War as two systems against each other, but that’s not the way it started. First, capitalism isn’t a system designed and implemented opposite to socialism. It’s the lack thereof, it’s leaving people alone. The two “systems” didn’t have the same goal. The Soviet Union wanted to transcend mankind and achieve utopia. I’m a libertarian, but even I can find the ambition of the early USSR as interesting and even admirable. Turns out it doesn’t work, but neat experiment. Sucks for the tens of millions who died trying.

    • @gezenews
      @gezenews 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What about that idea is interesting? I find it about as interesting a dog thinking a bone is over a ledge and then falling off a cliff. It was horrifying and silly from the start.

    • @DjRenect
      @DjRenect 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Like so much of the USSR's "accomplishments": at what price?

    • @BirthdayFreak67
      @BirthdayFreak67 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Never read the Tower of Babel

    • @captainpazuzu
      @captainpazuzu 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Experimentation is part of empiricism. Glad it wasn't us though...

    • @BugsyMcOvaltine
      @BugsyMcOvaltine 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The basis of capitalism isnt leaving people alone. Its the enforcement of property rights by the government at its foundation. Private property as a concept needs to be rigorously enforced by a government constantly. It isnt just letting people be.

  • @Westcoastrocksduh
    @Westcoastrocksduh 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What MM doesn’t understand is that Huckabee isn’t saying we are now North Korea but that those laws ARE North Korean style and they always lead to more and more laws like it.

    • @wheel-man5319
      @wheel-man5319 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. If you can tell me what size soda I can buy, what stops you from telling me what brand to buy, and then from banning soda entirely.

  • @user-em9su3dd9y
    @user-em9su3dd9y 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great questions, great answers.

  • @gregorybrennan8539
    @gregorybrennan8539 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The chalk talk for communism didn't pan out. Happens all the time in medical research

    • @ischmidt
      @ischmidt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marxism and communism are "I can fix him/her" applied to all of humanity, and we know how often that works.

  • @gregy1570
    @gregy1570 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    i'm sure many of those intellectuals', ummmm, heritage had nothing to do with it

    • @ninjagold9244
      @ninjagold9244 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Antisemitism prevented early entry of these communists into American academia. Only much later did left-wing universities admit that they played a major role in disseminating and legitimizing the work of J "intellectuals" in spite of healthy antisemitic pushback from contemporaries.

  • @emanuelpetre5491
    @emanuelpetre5491 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Because early life. That’s why. But then again Malice can’t say it because he’s no Pound or Fischer.

  • @jackreacher.
    @jackreacher. 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Going to a totalitarian state to pocket receipts for a skeptical crowd takes a whole nuther kind of crazy.

  • @spksiba2993
    @spksiba2993 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I immediately thought about how the media lies about israel in exactly the same way.

    • @eriklondon2946
      @eriklondon2946 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are ALWAYS lying, in an attempt to get you to do something that will allow them to have more power over you.

    • @poorman2457
      @poorman2457 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We all hear the same stories of people being horrified about Israeli treatment of Palestinians. You're spot on with your observation .

    • @John-bravooo
      @John-bravooo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@poorman2457they treat them fine

    • @wheel-man5319
      @wheel-man5319 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@John-bravoooWho builds hospitals or elementary schools over military installations?

    • @wheel-man5319
      @wheel-man5319 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@John-bravooowho builds tunnels in order to attack their neighbor?

  • @mgs2014
    @mgs2014 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This reporters in 30s were like hasan pikers and young turk originations of today.

  • @sifridbassoon
    @sifridbassoon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i recently read goldman. very interesting

  • @Claude_van
    @Claude_van 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why do they wear headphones when they are sitting opposite each other?🤔

    • @carlos_takeshi
      @carlos_takeshi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If you actually want to know, Audio University has an answer: m.th-cam.com/users/shortsFp_H4RM3NJo
      In short, it makes for a higher quality recording, because people hear what's going through the mics and can adjust their voices so they come through clearly.

  • @Wadiyatalkinabeet_
    @Wadiyatalkinabeet_ 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Intellectuals”

  • @ericrose419
    @ericrose419 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What book is he talking about?

    • @1klakak
      @1klakak 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The White Pill

  • @drewdrewson1384
    @drewdrewson1384 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Malice is what we call a limited hangout whenever he talks on issues like this.

  • @bringerofword4644
    @bringerofword4644 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the reason we keep talking about communism is because we have already started on that road. You dont get there in one day

    • @wheel-man5319
      @wheel-man5319 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Socialism is just a step on the path toward communism.

  • @chaseroberts3111
    @chaseroberts3111 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I support Russia not the Soviet Union

  • @jaredarmstrong7403
    @jaredarmstrong7403 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bring an intellectual just means you can rationalize away all your worst beliefs and attitudes.

  • @patrickspellman8758
    @patrickspellman8758 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hmmmm I wonder if it’s bc they all have similar ethnic backgrounds?

  • @johnduffin9425
    @johnduffin9425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Russians like vodka. I like vodka. so there's that.

  • @johnduffin9425
    @johnduffin9425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Russia is looking like the good guy vs NATO at the moment.

    • @badart3204
      @badart3204 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      By trying to subjugate it’s former colony?

    • @leongremista95
      @leongremista95 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      No, it's not

    • @johnduffin9425
      @johnduffin9425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@leongremista95 So NATO is the good guy by poking Russia in the eye with a stick?

    • @johnduffin9425
      @johnduffin9425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@badart3204 All I know is NATO started this fiasco that has cost a million lives. Now, Where does that put Russia?

    • @pin65371
      @pin65371 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@badart3204 exactly.. they have wiped out so many Ukrainians because Ukraine had different ideas of their future than Russia. These people that think that Russia is the good guy here are as dumb as the people that think communism is a good idea.

  • @johnduffin9425
    @johnduffin9425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like Russian lovely ladies and the pro hockey players.

  • @familyplan979
    @familyplan979 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    J E W S