@@Liberty-Vault communism is evil, God have to Adam the right to work and keep the fruits of your labor labors , “ by the sweat of thine brow shalt thow eat thy bread all the days of thy life” not by the sweat of your neighbors brow. This was done to teach the value of work but also to teach charity towards others. You can’t be charitable at gun point that’s theft !!
@@jasonbennett9910 Ho Chi Minh had to chose between American Imperialism or Asian Communism. (He was a nationalist. Vietnamese refer to him as a benevolent grandfather). My wife's family fled Vietnam to Thailand in the late 50's. (Even in Thailand they had to change their names to Thai to avoid being singled out). We're planning on visiting Vietnam soon.
I had a girlfriend, pretty serious, for a couple years at college. She, a visiting Soviet student from near Moscow. Her parents were upper-mid level Soviet government, what, managers. The paranoia distilled in them was profound. I took her to my Dad's house in Mexico, Baja, for a week and she could not believe we didnt need permission. She always thought people were listening. I wanted to marry her and bring her fanily to the U.S. She always said it was impossible. When she had to go home I never heard from her again. Radio silence... and that has always disturbed me.
These replies are ridiculous and uninformed. I grew up in the late 70’s and early 80’s with many families who came from Poland because it was a primarily Polish neighborhood. My grandparents had gotten out before WWII so they were among the lucky ones. We knew more than one family or individual who went back for a visit or a funeral and never returned, like they’d never even been here. An entire family down the street from us went for what was supposed to be a three week visit and never returned. The school year wasn’t over and their home, belongings, family car, and the parent’s jobs were all left behind and had to be dispersed by their friends and neighbors. Anyone who didn’t experience or witness it can never understand.
@@karigirl3569 You're so silly! According to @ignisimber above, that family was just ghosting you. And their neighbors. And their house. And their belongings. And their current life. @ignisimber knows. He's done his research! For those of you who don't get it, I'm obviously being sarcastic.
There's regular greed - "You have more than me.. so I'm going to take it by force". That's evil. But then there's a whole other level of greed that's extra evil. "You have more than me.. and that offends me so I'm going to destroy what you have so nobody has anything". That mentality is soul crushing to a society.
Marxism has been tried under a range of conditions, but in all cases, the ideology has failed miserably. One of the factors Karl Marx ignored was the fact that living and working conditions were improving during the Industrial Revolution. The middle class as we know it today originated during this time period, they were able to move out of their shanties and slums and into better digs (including houses they bought rather than rented), they now were able to afford to eat much better than before, they gained gas (and then electricity) and running water, better medical care was available to them, the newly minted middle class could have their children educated better thus increasing the children's economic opportunities, etc. Given that conditions became better for the working and middle classes, there was no need to revolt and overthrow the existing economic system, and in fact, doing so would end their gravy train. Marxism at its core, is an extremely elitist ideology.
Look at the Democrats and what has been malignantly and deliberately pushed on the world by Biden/Harris admin. And look what the US is letting in. Evil.
communism is not possible because of human nature. the ONLY way it could possible ever work is to be implemented from the smallest levels and to grow naturally. forced communism is oppression.
I think a lot of young people hear these things and think it would be so easy to implement communism/socialism and just not be evil. We need to do a better job of explaining why that system leads in that direction so they can't just write it off as the crimes of evil individuals.
They need to be taught by wise old grumpy people who know you run out of energy as you age and you have to assume some bad actors exist. Some people are lazy. Some people are nasty and some are cruel and evil. And you can’t see that as a young person yet except by experience. Youthful exuberance ignores the reality of those with family and actual responsibility. I recall a similar experience with young pastors in Protestant church. They want to change the world but had no understanding that reality was different.
We need to demonize it like Nazism, potentially make it illegal. Out of all the fascistic systems it is the most dangerous. Well, Islam is up there too.
Part of the problem is that the owner class in this country is so beyond greedy that the US has become this corporate welfare oligarchy masquerading as capitalism where the money is steadily starting to flow only one direction. So if kids are growing up without any real future its easy for them to be bull shitted into buying anything they might be told will work. People will believe anything if they are desperate enough.
Two corrupt ideas: That all morality is relative and that any evil is permitted in the service of a "noble" ideal. Add in the tendency of people to believe that anything they can clearly see must be easy to reach and it's a destructive, explosive mix. Eg, everyone can see the moon, it seems almost reachable, but it took thousands of years of human development to actually get there.
If anyone is wondering how this sort of thing happens in history. How a society can become like that which he is describing, and what that looks like in real life. Remember when they had people reporting their neighbors for having guests come to their home? Well it's exactly like that.
So easy. So very very easy to get people to give up their freedoms. So very easy to turn liberty to tyranny. Like flipping a switch. It can happen overnight. And during the “coof” it did. They will try it again. And we must be ready to stop it and never comply again.
Yup. I can show you FB screenshots of people i went to high-school with talking about how they want to report people during covid for grilling in the back yard
My professors would lose their minds if someone in class were to criticize the ussr. They won’t even allow a flag in class that is not communist/lgbtqmp+ related.
@@KFish-bw1om The scale of Fascism. Starting with Democrats, then the EU...then Mussolini, then Pol Pot, then the NAZIS, then the CCP, then the USSR, then Islam lol.
Females wouldn't allow their babies to experience the world like that. It's one of many, MANY reasons why not letting threm have a say is how society is run was one of the only the things humans have universally agreed on until very recently.
the ussr could have sent 50 million people at the germans but if they didn't have the us sending them millions of tons of equipment jt wouldn't have mattered
How many T-34 tanks, rifles and submachine guns can you construct without tools, without food and trucks to deliver them? Oh funny that you ask about the very few things that the US and UK didn't sent to the USSR but just decided to omit thousands of tonnes of food, trucks, tanketts, industrial equipment, materials, military equipment like boots and radios.... do you want me to continue? USSR lost all those soldiers mostly because of their own idiocy and incompetence and now they want a "thank You" because of that, where it's them who should be thanking the west for saving their asses because USSR would be absolutly stomped if not the cosmic level of support that came from the west. Even with all this support (as well as the intel support, check how they won in Kursk, the german had a really good plan, it's just the allies leaked everything to the reds) they still had massive issues fighting the germans.
@@konstantinkelekhsaev302 USA and Uk send them 100k fuel trucks to move those tanks down the fronts, by '43 USSR had more airpower and ordinance than the germans, USA sealed the deal Stalin and Zhukov admit this in separate memoires.
@@kingtulabi1005Im Ukrainian. Nazis wanted to exterminate my nation and colonize our homeland for lebensraum. The USSR turned Ukraine into the most prosperous and developed part of the USSR.Communism will win in the end because truth and juatice are on our side. You have nothing but lies and greed on your side
Regarding Stalin's motivations not being ideological - Stephen Kotkin wrote, or is still in the process of writing, a three-volume biography of Stalin. His research included a lot time in the archives in Russia, reading Stalin's documents, appointment books, minutes of the Politburo etc. Apparently so well that he claims to be able to reconstruct entire days of Stalin's life from the paper trail. his conclusion was that they were all, including Stalin, true believers in the communist cause. I don't know enough about Kotkin to suspect any ulterior motives, but that's what he says.
In modern day Ukraine, the stats show that minority Russians are bearing the brunt of the KIA, which is a sly method of ethnic cleansing. Back in WWII, ordering your minority infantry to charge into combat without adequate training and equipment casts shade upon anything that was supposedly noble in "reaching Hitler's bunker first." It speaks of being cold and calculating. Given that the Stalin regime would doctor photos to remove evidence of individuals having existed, it should come as no surprise that the paper trail would paint Stalin et al as true believers. Sticking to the fact that Stalin was a thug and bank robber, it is best go with the simplest explanation and acknowledge that schemes like communism are (mainly) designed to enrichen ruthless cronies. Useful idiots who helped the process along will merely be replaced, and their photos doctored.
The problem with trusting what Marxists write is that the dialectic is fundamentally the process of inverting language. Marxists write in a language you're familiar with but the intended meaning is an inversion of what the uninitiated will take away from it. Mao used terms like democratic centralism to describe what was obviously a rigid hierarchical dictatorship.
@@jeremyponcy7311 This is irrelevant. You can be a true believer and still act out as a mobster. Your true belief can in fact be inspired by the same motivation that causes you to be totalitarian. One way or another you see it as a group of men fed up with their economic authoritarian system and then becoming thugs. It's not a very interesting story.
@@gezenews (Post#2) That is not what Jeremy said. The point is that they were originally thugs and criminals (such as Stalin being a bank robber), with language used as a cover. So, there is no point evaluating their "original writings" because these are composed of lies that, to the casual observer, would exemplify how "noble" they were. Just as I'd previously stated concerning "erasing" people by doctoring old photos.
20th Century was like a whole learning-lesson on Modern Warfare (even though Economic & Cultural Warfare is the META now amongst Nuke-Having Nations). They simply believed "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" and you also had dumb@#$% idealistic Leftists in positions of power (mainly academia) that saw the USSR as a Heaven in progress. "You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs" - Pro-Commie Phakkit. "Alright; where's the omelet? You broke all these eggs and you keep breaking them but there's no omelet anywhere?" - Churchill.
The issue was not standing up for Poland. It is glorious sure but the Second World War (1939-1945) was fought for Poles not jews. I also think a lot of it is Franklin Delano Roosevelt secretly admiring communism because his administration did everything to make them.
@@jessfarr5667 It is more like the soviets were forced to by their stupidity and immorality. Those communists who pursue the claim you put forth forget that the country also signed a deal to assuage the nazis, invade Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Finland later on. They furthermore denounced the war and joining it and stopped condemning fascism and all it's ills because the two tyrants got along for a bit. They cannot have their cake and eat it too.
If the ussr desrves more credit for winning ww2 (because they were so callous eith the lives of their own soldiers) they deserve equal or greater credit for starting ww2 by invading Poland and eastern Europe in collaboration with the nazis
The USA collaborated with the Third Reich until Dec 11, 1941. That is 6 months into the Holocaust. Let that sink in. And Poland had in 1921 illegally occupied large swathes of Lithuania, White-Russia and the Ukraine. They had no right to be there. What is wrong with you guys that you deliberately don't know your history?
Not really. There are many ideas from thousands of years ago that are still the future of humanity. Look at meditation. Buddha taught mindfulness 2500 years ago and we caught up ten years ago.
Lives were the USSR's contribution to the war effort. The US built the USSR's manufacturing sector from the ground up, the US supplied the USSR with most of it's military necessities, the US fed the USSR, and so on. This began even before the signing of the Lend Lease Act, the US was the reason for the ending of the War, otherwise the USSR would have starved to death before the US ever joined because the US for several years was supplying around 75% of the food consumed in the USSR. There would be no Eastern front without the US.
Malice only gave John Fetterman money cause he wanted a literally brain-damaged politician to go into the system to speed up its collapse. He hasn't given money to any other Democrat. He's also glad too because Fetterman has recovered better and has an old-school Democrat mentality where he naively believes that Government is meant to serve the people: dude has been standing the way of his contemporary Party's goals and is experiencing 1st-hand how naturally corrupt Governments is as well as being an opposition on the inside.
There's also different forms of Anarchy, dumb@$$. "The Black Flag has many colors" means that the main foundational principle of Anarchy is simply that "All Authority (involuntarily compliance enforced by violence) is morally illegitimate" and that different branches have different ideologies on how societies should coexist voluntarily. Left-Anarchism is re-re because not only do they believe Authority is illegitimate, but also that hierarchies(an unavoidable natural phenomenon) are also illegitimate: not every Anarchy is just Anarcho-Syndicalism. Anarcho-Capitalism is the ultimate Ideology of Individualism. Re-re.
In re The Soviets taking Berlin, my Dad was in Patton’s Third Army he said American soldiers were just 30 miles outside of Berlin and were stopped by the powers that be in Washington DC. I think this was to allow the Soviets revenge for the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union. The Germans hoped to be captured by the United States.
Yes, yes, of course. Before that, a lot of technology was developed in the Roman Empire. What is this if not a convincing argument in favor of slavery!
Disturbingly, there's actually a whole discipline dedicated to this. People will examine evidence and read sources from a time period they never lived through in order to try to understand what it was like.
"It worked in the sense that it became more industrialized." Mr. Malice needs to study the price of that industrialization. Stalin took the grain from the Ukraine, even the stocks to feed the Ukrainian farmers which caused the Holdomor when millions of Ukrainians starved to death, and sold it on the world market (at that time there was a large famine elsewhere in the world). Stalin took the money and bought factories from the West. That was how the USSR became industrialized.
Both the Natsocs and the Socialists/communists made the same essential claim about human nature and the place of the individual vs. The collective. Not that the collective exists... But that is their claim.
After such a long time, it's nice to finally see the masses start to get a clue. It was wrongthink crime for decades to talk about this sort of subject. At this rate, it'll probably only take another fifteen to twenty years for the masses to continue to study and get to some functional conclusions.
Once it is decided that no one may own private property,... the people must necessarily become permanently the chattel slave property of the State... which now *_NEVER EVER_* whithers away?!??
They're @#%$tards. Anarcho-Syndicalists have more erroneous propositions about Human-Nature than Liberalism. At best their ideas can work in a small tight-nit community (like a village or town). Beyond that, the reality of human-nature happens and it falls apart so they become what they hate to enforce an ineffective abomination. In practice, Left-Anarchists are native and impractical compared to Right- Anarchists. Both sides believe all forms of Authority are morally illegitimate. However, the Left-Anarchists also believe Hierarchies are morally-illegitimate so they try to do away with them as well (which leads to ruin). The Right-Anarchists however don't; understand that Hierarchies are also natural and inevitable, and learn to incorporate them in their sub-ideologies - typically aiming for voluntary meritocracies.
Not really. The amount of uncertainty in a persons life goes up dramatically when under communist rulership. Your neighbours spy on you and every word is analyzed if it could be interpreted as anti party rhetoric. Add to that permanent economic instability and you have chaos cubed
I'm not sure where they lived or went to school, but I was 11 when Berlin fell in Ireland and knew what was happening. It was part of social discourse and education.
Yeah, I was taught the cold war in history in high school in South Africa in late 90s and understood the significance of the fall of the Berlin Wall. I don't think these guys were very conscientious students 😂
I was 25 years old and travelling in the Himalayas on the Berlin wall came down. When I was 20 years old I stood on the wall and travelled through eastern Germany and East Berlin. It was surreal then profound when it came down. Most of the boomers Wanted to capitulate to the Soviet union. I was a fan of Ronald Reagan and cheered the end of the Soviet union. However, like the man who knew too little our side turned out to be just as bad and squandered the peace dividend in order to create a global surveillance state at is as we speak I was 25 years old and travelling in the Himalayas on the Berlin wall came down. When I was 20 years old in 1984 and I stood on the wall and travelled through eastern Germany and East Berlin. It was surreal then profound when it came down. Most of the boomers Wanted to capitulate to the Soviet union. I was a fan of Ronald Reagan and cheered the end of the Soviet union. However, like the man who knew too little our side turned out to be just as bad and squandered the peace dividend in order to create a global surveillance state that is evolving is as we speak
My neighbor growing up was a polish guy who was 12 to 16 during world war II. He saw so many brutal things done to the poles by the Germans and The Communist. He joined the US army fought in Korea. He would come to our school during veterans Day and talk with other veterans about their service. Some kids would ask if the other veterans killed people during war. He would probably speak about how he helped ambush a group of Germans leaving Warsaw and he lemented not being able to kill more Germans. He had to flee Poland because The Communist had jailed and beat him. He used to say The only thing he hated more than a Germans were communists. I'm 41 I can vividly remember this guy telling me stories and him showing me the scars. In the US you live very safe and soft lives. We have not experienced the bad side of a lot the side affects of communism.
When WWII began, Germany and the USSR were allies. If Hitler never betrayed Stalin, both countries would have worked together to destroy the Jews. Odd that there's no shame in Russian circles that when WWII began, they were allied with the Nazis. The USSR, wanting to maintain good relations with Hitler, would have also built concentration camps. The world would look so different today.
You have to understand that there was nothing shameful about being an ally of Hitler in those days. Churchill was the same monster as Hitler, he did the same things to the indigenous people of New Zealand as Hitler did. You can't claim that being an ally of the British Empire is a deeply immoral act. All the empires of that time were pieces of stinking shit, all were involved in genocide. And where did you get this nonsense that the USSR allegedly exterminated Jews? The USSR exterminated regardless of nationality, the USSR killed Russians the most.
An American captain supplying ww2 Russian port Arcangel and was advised many of his crew were Communist; Captain replied lets see how communist they are after seeing life In Russia.
"the soviet union doesn't get the respect it deserves for beating the nazis in ww2" Perhaps. But I DEFINITELY know it doesn't get the HATE it deserves for HELPING the nazis with (almost) the first 2 years of the war. They should at least offset each other, and if anything, should make the soviet union look WORSE. If the USSR hadn't helped the nazis, they wouldn't have had such a strong opponent to overcome. Molotov Ribbentrop agreement, partitioning of poland, etc.
Talking about dilution of nazism by taking away antisemitism is unjustified IMO. It was not the core thing in nazism: having some "lower" nation to blame was the point. And it fits. Japanese were nazis actively taking other Asians as lesser people. IMO it's not that you hate Jews in particular, it's that you're socialist, and nationalist, and blame some minority or outside nation for you not being on top.
Fascism lost WWII, but communism won it. Just ask the Poles. They weren't even out from under Hitler's jackboot before the allies betrayed them to the Soviets. They suffered under that communist regime for 37 years before finally regaining their independence in 1989.
China BARELY cracks 2nd world standards and it is full of atrocious human rights abuses and horrible living situations, poverty, government overreach, no free speech, authoritarianism and no democracy, and its ability to succeed at all by any loose definition is only made possibly by its proto-capitalist additions like having a stock market, private property (sort of), etc. This is a wild thing to say.
Communism works in a strictly homogeneous society where everyone has the exact same beliefs about everything. The reason communism has never worked is because the system was always forcing individuals within the system to conform to the mass. In smaller groups like communes, the mass is small enough that individuals stick with the group anyways, as everyone is there with the same purpose. So there’s technically a chance, but only in populations where everyone’s beliefs are the same. Otherwise the question always becomes: what do you do with those that don’t agree?
The irony of an anarchist explaining the failures of a really bad idea. The best thing you can say about an anarchist is, "Well, at least he's not a Marxist."
@junglemoose2164 Yes, I've heard him describe his beliefs before. He lives in a fantasyland no less quixotic than the Leftist fantasyland he rightly and correctly criticizes. And if he doesn't want full-blown anarchy then he's not an anarchist. He's a small government conservative. He wants to have it both ways. What sort of anarchist drapes himself in the American flag?
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 He's either an anarchist, in which case he's a moron, or he's a small govt conservative/libertarian/whatever who calls himself an anarchist, in which case he's also a moron for doing so. You're either an anarchist or you're not.
I thought this about him too until I started watching him and realized he is the only coherent libertarian/anarchist I've ever heard really. Not that I agree with everything because I definitely do not, but he is certainly differentiated from the idealistic idiots that mirror the other side of the far left horshoe. Give him a chance.
I am reading Michael Malice's book "The White Pill: A Tale of Good and Evil". There were parts I did not want to read, because they described such horrible events and details. It would be good to teach our children about the horrors of Stalin's USSR, and what can happen to us when we give up our freedoms. "Freedom is genuine only when bound by the laws and institutions that make us accountable to each other, that oblige us to acknowledge the freedom of others and also treat others with respect." - Roger Scruton
Russia shouldnt get any credit for ww2 seeing as how they kicked it off with the germans via the molotov ribentrov pact that they sugned with the nazis(i know i fucked that spelling up)
By the way the soviets did mitigate it's worst aspects but then it naturally got worse and worse again. Psychiatric torture basically happened also in China today well concentration camps are fun.
Kinda funny how all those sofa experts had never lived in a communist state, nor they have witnessed it themselves, but nevertheless so eager to tell us all about "the horrors of communism".
I come back from hell! - You don't know what you are blabbering about. What you experienced is not real authentic hell as promised and planned by Lucifer. Hell is so great that you stay there for the hell of it, to escape guilt and God once for all.
I have lived in Vietnam. I was there two years ago and will always go back.Ho Chi Minh City, 9 million people, not one dangerous neighborhood. Who is winning again?
I’ve been to Vietnam 4 times , it is pure capitalism with communists in charge, there is no social safety net / health care , Marx got one the right about communism its just about power not equality
Was communism misguided or evil?
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@@Liberty-Vault communism is evil, God have to Adam the right to work and keep the fruits of your labor labors , “ by the sweat of thine brow shalt thow eat thy bread all the days of thy life” not by the sweat of your neighbors brow. This was done to teach the value of work but also to teach charity towards others. You can’t be charitable at gun point that’s theft !!
Communism was guided by evil.
Why can't I upvote your excellent program?
@@Liberty-Vault Evil.
The embodiment of evil
Communists come in exclusively two flavors:
Naive, or evil.
Which one was Ho Chi Minh?
@jasonbennett9910 That's a little different. Ho Chi Min was more of a Vietnamese Nationalist. Using communist countries help to maintain his country.
@@jasonbennett9910 Both
Lots of useful idiots.
@@jasonbennett9910 Ho Chi Minh had to chose between American Imperialism or Asian Communism. (He was a nationalist. Vietnamese refer to him as a benevolent grandfather). My wife's family fled Vietnam to Thailand in the late 50's. (Even in Thailand they had to change their names to Thai to avoid being singled out). We're planning on visiting Vietnam soon.
I had a girlfriend, pretty serious, for a couple years at college. She, a visiting Soviet student from near Moscow. Her parents were upper-mid level Soviet government, what, managers.
The paranoia distilled in them was profound. I took her to my Dad's house in Mexico, Baja, for a week and she could not believe we didnt need permission. She always thought people were listening.
I wanted to marry her and bring her fanily to the U.S. She always said it was impossible. When she had to go home I never heard from her again. Radio silence... and that has always disturbed me.
Bro is blaming a girl ghosting him on communism bahahahaha
@@ignisimber2818 LOL. Yeah, more than likely she didn't get killed or something, unless she's stalen/kruschev/brezhev era.
These replies are ridiculous and uninformed. I grew up in the late 70’s and early 80’s with many families who came from Poland because it was a primarily Polish neighborhood. My grandparents had gotten out before WWII so they were among the lucky ones. We knew more than one family or individual who went back for a visit or a funeral and never returned, like they’d never even been here. An entire family down the street from us went for what was supposed to be a three week visit and never returned. The school year wasn’t over and their home, belongings, family car, and the parent’s jobs were all left behind and had to be dispersed by their friends and neighbors.
Anyone who didn’t experience or witness it can never understand.
@@karigirl3569 what year?
@@karigirl3569 You're so silly! According to @ignisimber above, that family was just ghosting you. And their neighbors. And their house. And their belongings. And their current life. @ignisimber knows. He's done his research!
For those of you who don't get it, I'm obviously being sarcastic.
There's regular greed - "You have more than me.. so I'm going to take it by force". That's evil. But then there's a whole other level of greed that's extra evil. "You have more than me.. and that offends me so I'm going to destroy what you have so nobody has anything". That mentality is soul crushing to a society.
The former is the evil of the thief, the latter the evil of the narcissist.
Marxism has been tried under a range of conditions, but in all cases, the ideology has failed miserably. One of the factors Karl Marx ignored was the fact that living and working conditions were improving during the Industrial Revolution. The middle class as we know it today originated during this time period, they were able to move out of their shanties and slums and into better digs (including houses they bought rather than rented), they now were able to afford to eat much better than before, they gained gas (and then electricity) and running water, better medical care was available to them, the newly minted middle class could have their children educated better thus increasing the children's economic opportunities, etc. Given that conditions became better for the working and middle classes, there was no need to revolt and overthrow the existing economic system, and in fact, doing so would end their gravy train.
Marxism at its core, is an extremely elitist ideology.
It’s also an extremely anti-Christian, nihilistic ideology.
Being anti supernatural cult is a bad thing?😂😈
"In all cases...." , China and Vietnam might have something to say about that...
@@jasonbennett9910You consider those places successes of communism?
@@Smackyjack440 It's not really nihilistic. It's egotistical and is only anti-Christian in that it's anti-religion. You and the state become God.
Judge a system by what it does..evil is not a bug of the communist system, it is the function
This so much
Look at the Democrats and what has been malignantly and deliberately pushed on the world by Biden/Harris admin. And look what the US is letting in. Evil.
communism is not possible because of human nature. the ONLY way it could possible ever work is to be implemented from the smallest levels and to grow naturally. forced communism is oppression.
Bars.
But it will work this time because it's a coalition of really smart people behind it this time
I think a lot of young people hear these things and think it would be so easy to implement communism/socialism and just not be evil. We need to do a better job of explaining why that system leads in that direction so they can't just write it off as the crimes of evil individuals.
They need to be taught by wise old grumpy people who know you run out of energy as you age and you have to assume some bad actors exist. Some people are lazy. Some people are nasty and some are cruel and evil. And you can’t see that as a young person yet except by experience. Youthful exuberance ignores the reality of those with family and actual responsibility. I recall a similar experience with young pastors in Protestant church. They want to change the world but had no understanding that reality was different.
Reality itself is the evil individual.
We need to demonize it like Nazism, potentially make it illegal. Out of all the fascistic systems it is the most dangerous. Well, Islam is up there too.
Part of the problem is that the owner class in this country is so beyond greedy that the US has become this corporate welfare oligarchy masquerading as capitalism where the money is steadily starting to flow only one direction. So if kids are growing up without any real future its easy for them to be bull shitted into buying anything they might be told will work. People will believe anything if they are desperate enough.
Two corrupt ideas: That all morality is relative and that any evil is permitted in the service of a "noble" ideal. Add in the tendency of people to believe that anything they can clearly see must be easy to reach and it's a destructive, explosive mix. Eg, everyone can see the moon, it seems almost reachable, but it took thousands of years of human development to actually get there.
If anyone is wondering how this sort of thing happens in history. How a society can become like that which he is describing, and what that looks like in real life. Remember when they had people reporting their neighbors for having guests come to their home? Well it's exactly like that.
So easy. So very very easy to get people to give up their freedoms. So very easy to turn liberty to tyranny. Like flipping a switch. It can happen overnight. And during the “coof” it did.
They will try it again. And we must be ready to stop it and never comply again.
Yup. I can show you FB screenshots of people i went to high-school with talking about how they want to report people during covid for grilling in the back yard
My professors would lose their minds if someone in class were to criticize the ussr. They won’t even allow a flag in class that is not communist/lgbtqmp+ related.
What ??? Are you serious ?
how about criticizing the islamic state, another system loved by leftist academia
They should create the banality of evil communism museum, and kids should take field trips through it.
It should definitely include everything that happened in America in 2020-2021.
@@KFish-bw1om The scale of Fascism. Starting with Democrats, then the EU...then Mussolini, then Pol Pot, then the NAZIS, then the CCP, then the USSR, then Islam lol.
Females wouldn't allow their babies to experience the world like that. It's one of many, MANY reasons why not letting threm have a say is how society is run was one of the only the things humans have universally agreed on until very recently.
@@JohnSmith-yc6uv They allow their babies to go to the Holocaust museum.
the ussr could have sent 50 million people at the germans but if they didn't have the us sending them millions of tons of equipment jt wouldn't have mattered
How Many T-34 tanks did the US send ? Or How Many Rifles And Submachine Guns ?
How many T-34 tanks, rifles and submachine guns can you construct without tools, without food and trucks to deliver them?
Oh funny that you ask about the very few things that the US and UK didn't sent to the USSR but just decided to omit thousands of tonnes of food, trucks, tanketts, industrial equipment, materials, military equipment like boots and radios.... do you want me to continue?
USSR lost all those soldiers mostly because of their own idiocy and incompetence and now they want a "thank You" because of that, where it's them who should be thanking the west for saving their asses because USSR would be absolutly stomped if not the cosmic level of support that came from the west.
Even with all this support (as well as the intel support, check how they won in Kursk, the german had a really good plan, it's just the allies leaked everything to the reds) they still had massive issues fighting the germans.
@@konstantinkelekhsaev302 USA and Uk send them 100k fuel trucks to move those tanks down the fronts, by '43 USSR had more airpower and ordinance than the germans, USA sealed the deal Stalin and Zhukov admit this in separate memoires.
They want more credit for defeating Germany, yet they were just as bad. Talk about delusional.
They were worse
@@kingtulabi1005 far worse
@@kingtulabi1005Im Ukrainian. Nazis wanted to exterminate my nation and colonize our homeland for lebensraum. The USSR turned Ukraine into the most prosperous and developed part of the USSR.Communism will win in the end because truth and juatice are on our side. You have nothing but lies and greed on your side
Collaborated with the 3rd Reich 1939-41
They were largely responsible for defeating Germany, yet they were also worse
The gulag archipelago is elucidating
A hard book to get through, but one that will change your life.
No (blue) cap
I wonder what other books he wrote.
@@makinbacon3124 Is the translation of 200 years finished?
I can’t get thru it, I tried like 3 times
The quick death of compassion
Regarding Stalin's motivations not being ideological - Stephen Kotkin wrote, or is still in the process of writing, a three-volume biography of Stalin. His research included a lot time in the archives in Russia, reading Stalin's documents, appointment books, minutes of the Politburo etc. Apparently so well that he claims to be able to reconstruct entire days of Stalin's life from the paper trail. his conclusion was that they were all, including Stalin, true believers in the communist cause. I don't know enough about Kotkin to suspect any ulterior motives, but that's what he says.
In modern day Ukraine, the stats show that minority Russians are bearing the brunt of the KIA, which is a sly method of ethnic cleansing. Back in WWII, ordering your minority infantry to charge into combat without adequate training and equipment casts shade upon anything that was supposedly noble in "reaching Hitler's bunker first." It speaks of being cold and calculating.
Given that the Stalin regime would doctor photos to remove evidence of individuals having existed, it should come as no surprise that the paper trail would paint Stalin et al as true believers. Sticking to the fact that Stalin was a thug and bank robber, it is best go with the simplest explanation and acknowledge that schemes like communism are (mainly) designed to enrichen ruthless cronies. Useful idiots who helped the process along will merely be replaced, and their photos doctored.
Kotkin is very good
The problem with trusting what Marxists write is that the dialectic is fundamentally the process of inverting language. Marxists write in a language you're familiar with but the intended meaning is an inversion of what the uninitiated will take away from it. Mao used terms like democratic centralism to describe what was obviously a rigid hierarchical dictatorship.
@@jeremyponcy7311 This is irrelevant. You can be a true believer and still act out as a mobster. Your true belief can in fact be inspired by the same motivation that causes you to be totalitarian. One way or another you see it as a group of men fed up with their economic authoritarian system and then becoming thugs. It's not a very interesting story.
@@gezenews (Post#2) That is not what Jeremy said. The point is that they were originally thugs and criminals (such as Stalin being a bank robber), with language used as a cover. So, there is no point evaluating their "original writings" because these are composed of lies that, to the casual observer, would exemplify how "noble" they were. Just as I'd previously stated concerning "erasing" people by doctoring old photos.
**Stalin dies**
Soviet military brass: "We need to call him out for the catastrophic toll his decisions caused. It's time we stood up to him."
So brave!
Michael Malice did not even scratched the surface of communism when it comes to evil...
No I literally do not know why we teamed up with Stalin to fight the Nazis.
this is profound
20th Century was like a whole learning-lesson on Modern Warfare (even though Economic & Cultural Warfare is the META now amongst Nuke-Having Nations).
They simply believed "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend" and you also had dumb@#$% idealistic Leftists in positions of power (mainly academia) that saw the USSR as a Heaven in progress.
"You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs" - Pro-Commie Phakkit.
"Alright; where's the omelet? You broke all these eggs and you keep breaking them but there's no omelet anywhere?" - Churchill.
The issue was not standing up for Poland. It is glorious sure but the Second World War (1939-1945) was fought for Poles not jews. I also think a lot of it is Franklin Delano Roosevelt secretly admiring communism because his administration did everything to make them.
we teamed up with them out of necessity. Russia played a much bigger role in defeating Germany than the other allies.
@@jessfarr5667 It is more like the soviets were forced to by their stupidity and immorality. Those communists who pursue the claim you put forth forget that the country also signed a deal to assuage the nazis, invade Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Finland later on. They furthermore denounced the war and joining it and stopped condemning fascism and all it's ills because the two tyrants got along for a bit. They cannot have their cake and eat it too.
Somebody go tell Mel Gibson to make a historical film set in the Soviet Union.
The second world war never ended. Charlie Manson
If the ussr desrves more credit for winning ww2 (because they were so callous eith the lives of their own soldiers) they deserve equal or greater credit for starting ww2 by invading Poland and eastern Europe in collaboration with the nazis
The USA collaborated with the Third Reich until Dec 11, 1941. That is 6 months into the Holocaust. Let that sink in.
And Poland had in 1921 illegally occupied large swathes of Lithuania, White-Russia and the Ukraine. They had no right to be there.
What is wrong with you guys that you deliberately don't know your history?
It did what it was intended to do.
His book on this subject was phenomenal
There is nothing less progressive than than following a book from 1840...
Not really. There are many ideas from thousands of years ago that are still the future of humanity. Look at meditation. Buddha taught mindfulness 2500 years ago and we caught up ten years ago.
@@Richard-d1y Bhudda didn't murder 130 million people in the 20th century, ya midwit
@@Richard-d1y I think he is referring to politics and ideology
What are you talking about?
@@rla927 the Communist Manifesto
Lives were the USSR's contribution to the war effort. The US built the USSR's manufacturing sector from the ground up, the US supplied the USSR with most of it's military necessities, the US fed the USSR, and so on. This began even before the signing of the Lend Lease Act, the US was the reason for the ending of the War, otherwise the USSR would have starved to death before the US ever joined because the US for several years was supplying around 75% of the food consumed in the USSR. There would be no Eastern front without the US.
Wrong. The US supplies only started to arrive into Russia any serious quantity well into the war, say 1943.
"Communism is Hell"
(Gives Democrats money, refuses to vote, acts like anarchy doesn't always turn into Collectivism)
Who? Malice??
Malice only gave John Fetterman money cause he wanted a literally brain-damaged politician to go into the system to speed up its collapse. He hasn't given money to any other Democrat. He's also glad too because Fetterman has recovered better and has an old-school Democrat mentality where he naively believes that Government is meant to serve the people: dude has been standing the way of his contemporary Party's goals and is experiencing 1st-hand how naturally corrupt Governments is as well as being an opposition on the inside.
There's also different forms of Anarchy, dumb@$$.
"The Black Flag has many colors" means that the main foundational principle of Anarchy is simply that "All Authority (involuntarily compliance enforced by violence) is morally illegitimate" and that different branches have different ideologies on how societies should coexist voluntarily. Left-Anarchism is re-re because not only do they believe Authority is illegitimate, but also that hierarchies(an unavoidable natural phenomenon) are also illegitimate: not every Anarchy is just Anarcho-Syndicalism.
Anarcho-Capitalism is the ultimate Ideology of Individualism. Re-re.
In re The Soviets taking Berlin, my Dad was in Patton’s Third Army he said American soldiers were just 30 miles outside of Berlin and were stopped by the powers that be in Washington DC. I think this was to allow the Soviets revenge for the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union. The Germans hoped to be captured by the United States.
This video shows what "personal is political" really means.
Every single piece of technology that you use right now everyday was invented in America. A free-market captialist system. That's not a coincidence.
Yes, yes, of course. Before that, a lot of technology was developed in the Roman Empire. What is this if not a convincing argument in favor of slavery!
@@АндрейКаминский-г9в it's 2024. Nice deflection. I see what you did there.
@@SeamusMcFitz-jz9if A lot of technological progress was made in Nazi Germany, buddy. Care to praise that country's socio-economic system?
@@АндрейКаминский-г9в you didn't even go to university. You are irrelevant.
What amazes me is how everyone who never lived during the communism times happens to be a expert and talk openly about communism
Disturbingly, there's actually a whole discipline dedicated to this. People will examine evidence and read sources from a time period they never lived through in order to try to understand what it was like.
reminds me of all the muslims living freely in the west glorifying life under in an islamic state. Just like communism, evil in another name
Price controls on food are good for people who want to lose weight
"It worked in the sense that it became more industrialized."
Mr. Malice needs to study the price of that industrialization. Stalin took the grain from the Ukraine, even the stocks to feed the Ukrainian farmers which caused the Holdomor when millions of Ukrainians starved to death, and sold it on the world market (at that time there was a large famine elsewhere in the world). Stalin took the money and bought factories from the West. That was how the USSR became industrialized.
Both the Natsocs and the Socialists/communists made the same essential claim about human nature and the place of the individual vs. The collective.
Not that the collective exists...
But that is their claim.
amazing clip tbh . very dense 20 min
Without the massive aid from the Allies, the former Axis power of the Soviet Union would have lost again Germany. They did not "win the war".
After such a long time, it's nice to finally see the masses start to get a clue. It was wrongthink crime for decades to talk about this sort of subject. At this rate, it'll probably only take another fifteen to twenty years for the masses to continue to study and get to some functional conclusions.
Every generation a new generation of idiots is born.
You are too hopeful
Once it is decided that no one may own private property,... the people must necessarily become permanently the chattel slave property of the State... which now *_NEVER EVER_* whithers away?!??
Hearing the sirens in the background was low key wild
How the fk is someone a communist and an anarchist aren’t they antithetical
They're @#%$tards. Anarcho-Syndicalists have more erroneous propositions about Human-Nature than Liberalism. At best their ideas can work in a small tight-nit community (like a village or town). Beyond that, the reality of human-nature happens and it falls apart so they become what they hate to enforce an ineffective abomination.
In practice, Left-Anarchists are native and impractical compared to Right- Anarchists. Both sides believe all forms of Authority are morally illegitimate. However, the Left-Anarchists also believe Hierarchies are morally-illegitimate so they try to do away with them as well (which leads to ruin). The Right-Anarchists however don't; understand that Hierarchies are also natural and inevitable, and learn to incorporate them in their sub-ideologies - typically aiming for voluntary meritocracies.
Not really. The amount of uncertainty in a persons life goes up dramatically when under communist rulership. Your neighbours spy on you and every word is analyzed if it could be interpreted as anti party rhetoric.
Add to that permanent economic instability and you have chaos cubed
There's no such thing as an anarcho-socialist/communist.
They are all tyrants waiting for their turn.
Who are you talking about?
@@R-Lee- political systems not an individual
I remember when the Wall fell. I remember saying to a colleague that I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime.
Oh Malice, you sweet summer child.
Remember folks, the Soviets weren't even a plurality of Russians, let alone a majority. But we're not allowed to point out what they were.
I'm not sure where they lived or went to school, but I was 11 when Berlin fell in Ireland and knew what was happening. It was part of social discourse and education.
Yeah, I was taught the cold war in history in high school in South Africa in late 90s and understood the significance of the fall of the Berlin Wall. I don't think these guys were very conscientious students 😂
Michael Malice going around saying communism failed while all this time: CHINA
Some dude, Christmas, 1991
"These people, going around saying communism failed while all this time: USSR"
China is like 5% communist.
I was 25 years old and travelling in the Himalayas on the Berlin wall came down. When I was 20 years old I stood on the wall and travelled through eastern Germany and East Berlin. It was surreal then profound when it came down. Most of the boomers Wanted to capitulate to the Soviet union. I was a fan of Ronald Reagan and cheered the end of the Soviet union. However, like the man who knew too little our side turned out to be just as bad and squandered the peace dividend in order to create a global surveillance state at is as we speak I was 25 years old and travelling in the Himalayas on the Berlin wall came down. When I was 20 years old in 1984 and I stood on the wall and travelled through eastern Germany and East Berlin. It was surreal then profound when it came down. Most of the boomers Wanted to capitulate to the Soviet union. I was a fan of Ronald Reagan and cheered the end of the Soviet union. However, like the man who knew too little our side turned out to be just as bad and squandered the peace dividend in order to create a global surveillance state that is evolving is as we speak
Commuinism is definitely worse than failure., but what about communism?
My grandpa was the richest person i ever met in person
I’d like to see him apply this level of scrutiny to mid century Germany and see exactly what the motives were. And why…
Oh they will never do that..
If everyone seems to like yelling a lot about that time in history, then that's where at least some organized learning should be directed.
What's a good book that lays it all out?
Because citizens enjoyed living in Germany.
Mid-century like 1950s?
What book is Michael referring to here? It is a upcoming book or one that's already been released
Already released
@@vanessac1721 Whice book is it?
Don’t forget- the U.S. financed a great portion of this atrocity
Dudes didn't read enough John Le Carre novels, haha
Read Stephen Kotkin’s volumes on Stalin: Stalin was every bit the ideologue as Lenin and Trotsky…every…bit…he wasn’t just a “thug”.
Japanese atrocities in WW2 and before do not get the attention they warrant either.
My neighbor growing up was a polish guy who was 12 to 16 during world war II. He saw so many brutal things done to the poles by the Germans and The Communist.
He joined the US army fought in Korea. He would come to our school during veterans Day and talk with other veterans about their service. Some kids would ask if the other veterans killed people during war. He would probably speak about how he helped ambush a group of Germans leaving Warsaw and he lemented not being able to kill more Germans. He had to flee Poland because The Communist had jailed and beat him. He used to say The only thing he hated more than a Germans were communists.
I'm 41 I can vividly remember this guy telling me stories and him showing me the scars. In the US you live very safe and soft lives. We have not experienced the bad side of a lot the side affects of communism.
Micheal's book is brutal, I keep having to pause listening to it. Very good, but bring a hanky.
CIA guy is not against violence
I love that my name is his example of an enemy of the communist government.
When WWII began, Germany and the USSR were allies. If Hitler never betrayed Stalin, both countries would have worked together to destroy the Jews. Odd that there's no shame in Russian circles that when WWII began, they were allied with the Nazis. The USSR, wanting to maintain good relations with Hitler, would have also built concentration camps. The world would look so different today.
You have to understand that there was nothing shameful about being an ally of Hitler in those days. Churchill was the same monster as Hitler, he did the same things to the indigenous people of New Zealand as Hitler did. You can't claim that being an ally of the British Empire is a deeply immoral act. All the empires of that time were pieces of stinking shit, all were involved in genocide. And where did you get this nonsense that the USSR allegedly exterminated Jews? The USSR exterminated regardless of nationality, the USSR killed Russians the most.
My big question is why do people flee from free healthcare and education for the capitalistic wasteland of the US?
What people?
Soviet Russia was one big banking experiment...it worked...
Thanks!
An American captain supplying ww2 Russian port Arcangel and was advised many of his crew were Communist; Captain replied lets see how communist they are after seeing life In Russia.
Dude looks like Brian Quinn from impractical jokers.
"the soviet union doesn't get the respect it deserves for beating the nazis in ww2" Perhaps. But I DEFINITELY know it doesn't get the HATE it deserves for HELPING the nazis with (almost) the first 2 years of the war. They should at least offset each other, and if anything, should make the soviet union look WORSE. If the USSR hadn't helped the nazis, they wouldn't have had such a strong opponent to overcome. Molotov Ribbentrop agreement, partitioning of poland, etc.
Spellcheck the thumbnail
Communism has never failed. Not one time. It has ALWAYS done, or is currently doing PRECISELY what it was designed to do.
that thumbnail.... woof
What's wrong with it?
Sorry if it is obvious. English is not my native language.
I thought he was describing dems
Talking about dilution of nazism by taking away antisemitism is unjustified IMO.
It was not the core thing in nazism: having some "lower" nation to blame was the point. And it fits. Japanese were nazis actively taking other Asians as lesser people.
IMO it's not that you hate Jews in particular, it's that you're socialist, and nationalist, and blame some minority or outside nation for you not being on top.
Sputnik and Venera
Michael take a 🙇♂️👏🔥
Fascism lost WWII, but communism won it. Just ask the Poles. They weren't even out from under Hitler's jackboot before the allies betrayed them to the Soviets. They suffered under that communist regime for 37 years before finally regaining their independence in 1989.
Revenge masked as Utopia.
The irony of a Kamala Harris ad coming on during this video...
China seems to be doing alright. And the Soviets went from semi-feudal to first in space in like 40 years or so.
China BARELY cracks 2nd world standards and it is full of atrocious human rights abuses and horrible living situations, poverty, government overreach, no free speech, authoritarianism and no democracy, and its ability to succeed at all by any loose definition is only made possibly by its proto-capitalist additions like having a stock market, private property (sort of), etc.
This is a wild thing to say.
Intellectually lazy. Im an anticommunist. Stalin was an intellectual type despite what you say.
He got that right
Marx wrote it in good faith
It was never going to work and it never did
The keyword is ALMOST impossible… so you mean you think there IS a chance.
Communism works in a strictly homogeneous society where everyone has the exact same beliefs about everything. The reason communism has never worked is because the system was always forcing individuals within the system to conform to the mass. In smaller groups like communes, the mass is small enough that individuals stick with the group anyways, as everyone is there with the same purpose. So there’s technically a chance, but only in populations where everyone’s beliefs are the same. Otherwise the question always becomes: what do you do with those that don’t agree?
@@thewolfex1 even the communes eventually die off… they don’t have a non-material bond to one another…
typo in thumbnail
The irony of an anarchist explaining the failures of a really bad idea.
The best thing you can say about an anarchist is, "Well, at least he's not a Marxist."
Listen to Malice describe his brand of anarchism. It isn't synonymous with chaos. Quite the opposite.
@junglemoose2164 Yes, I've heard him describe his beliefs before. He lives in a fantasyland no less quixotic than the Leftist fantasyland he rightly and correctly criticizes. And if he doesn't want full-blown anarchy then he's not an anarchist. He's a small government conservative. He wants to have it both ways. What sort of anarchist drapes himself in the American flag?
Yeah; ya probably heard him but you clearly didn't listen lol. Go on; hang out with your Strawmen so your ego will never get hurt.
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 He's either an anarchist, in which case he's a moron, or he's a small govt conservative/libertarian/whatever who calls himself an anarchist, in which case he's also a moron for doing so.
You're either an anarchist or you're not.
I thought this about him too until I started watching him and realized he is the only coherent libertarian/anarchist I've ever heard really. Not that I agree with everything because I definitely do not, but he is certainly differentiated from the idealistic idiots that mirror the other side of the far left horshoe. Give him a chance.
What religion were the communists? 😉 he never mentions this
In a way communism itself is kinda a religion.
Communism is a religion. Marx is God.
I am reading Michael Malice's book "The White Pill: A Tale of Good and Evil". There were parts I did not want to read, because they described such horrible events and details. It would be good to teach our children about the horrors of Stalin's USSR, and what can happen to us when we give up our freedoms. "Freedom is genuine only when bound by the laws and institutions that make us accountable to each other, that oblige us to acknowledge the freedom of others and also treat others with respect." - Roger Scruton
Russia started ww2 with Germany and the way they fought caused there losses they get no sympathy 😂
Russia shouldnt get any credit for ww2 seeing as how they kicked it off with the germans via the molotov ribentrov pact that they sugned with the nazis(i know i fucked that spelling up)
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Imagine the audacity of people like hasan piker and his uncle when they promote this kinda shit on thier platforms!!!!!!shame on them
By the way the soviets did mitigate it's worst aspects but then it naturally got worse and worse again. Psychiatric torture basically happened also in China today well concentration camps are fun.
Fix that spelling error.
It was evil.
12:40 the Soviets couldn't have done it without American Lend Lease
Kinda funny how all those sofa experts had never lived in a communist state, nor they have witnessed it themselves, but nevertheless so eager to tell us all about "the horrors of communism".
Commuinism?
How come no one asks Malice asks for references in these interviews.
I come back from hell! - You don't know what you are blabbering about. What you experienced is not real authentic hell as promised and planned by Lucifer. Hell is so great that you stay there for the hell of it, to escape guilt and God once for all.
China is doing great!
LOL
Michael Malice is a grifter!
Germans were the good guys of WW2.
Fuck that, National Socialism is still a collectivist ideology.
Bad title..He means the Soviet Union, not Communism.
Oh sure if you were the "great leader" it would have been different, right.
Oh my @#$%ing God; it's the classic "Communism Has Never Really Been Tried" phakkit.
Of course. Communism was much better in China, Vietnam, North Korea, Cambodia, Cuba, Ghana, East Germany or the rest of the Central Europe.
China and Vietnam seem to be doing pretty well. And a shit ton better than the obviously dying West.....
Ah yes the shitholes of Vietnam and North Korea are super good examples of your favorite ideology
Ha! Not for Vietnam.😂😎
Have you been to Vietnam recently? (I plan on visiting soon, but the folks there are poorer than Thailand, and don't understand capitalism).
I have lived in Vietnam. I was there two years ago and will always go back.Ho Chi Minh City, 9 million people, not one dangerous neighborhood. Who is winning again?
@@jasonbennett9910yes people in Vietnam have a better life than people in developed countries. Yellow fever got you tripping lol
@@jasonbennett9910 Thanks!
I’ve been to Vietnam 4 times , it is pure capitalism with communists in charge, there is no social safety net / health care ,
Marx got one the right about communism its just about power not equality
That sounds scary, whatever "commuinism" is. I tried looking it up in the dictionary but couldn't find it.