Progressive Dispensationalism | Craig Blasing | CFC
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- The Center for Faith and Culture and Office of Ph.D. Studies hosts Dr. Craig Blaising for a lecture on progressive dispensationalism.
All opinions and views expressed by guest speakers are solely their own. They do not speak for nor represent Southeastern Seminary. Read about our expressed views and confessions at sebts.edu/beliefs
For anyone desiring a deeper explanation of how the Church relates to Israel from a progressive dispensationalist perspective, I recommend listening to Darrel L. Bock's interview with Nicholas Noyola. Bock, another advocate of progressive dispensationalism, also explains how progressive dispensationalism differs from classical and revised dispensationalism and from traditional and progressive covenantalism.
Thank you
We Gentiles are grafted into the commonwealth of Israel and under the shepherd of Christ, Jew and Gentiles as one flock.
John 10:16 ESV
[16] And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
This discussion reminds me of a Ravi Zacharias lecture everywhere but nowhere
Very helpful. Grateful for this.
Very enjoyable listening. Thank you Sir. I’m a layman and i have studied the Word of God for many years. I have read the Bible 7 times completely. Anyway, I believe that Progressive Dispensationalism is the most accurate version of Biblical understanding. I have through the years wavered from one understanding to another. I have matured in my understanding. At one point i was inclined to not believe that God still had a plan for physical Isreal. But it’s very difficult to ignore or interprete otherwise what the Bible clearly states. The most overarching importance from beginning to end is Christ and being born again. Could my understanding be wrong about Isreal..? Maybe. But that’s what the Bible clearly states so who am to argue.
Great class. Thank God for SEBTS. Wouldve been better though if it had some visual aids 😅
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:18-24, the Two Peoples of God doctrine of modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pre-trib removal of the Church falls with it.
Both Reformed Covenant Theology and Dispensational Theology have problems in Galatians chapters 3, and 4.
Dispensationalists attempt to replace the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.
Paul reveals the temporary nature of the Sinai Covenant in the text of chapter 3. Paul said the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed(Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.
In Galatians 4:24-31, Paul compels the Galatian believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage".
Based on Colossians 2:16-17, nobody alive today has ever broken the 4th commandment. Christ is our Sabbath rest every day of the week, for those in the New Covenant. The Old Covenant foods, and feasts, and sabbaths were only a shadow of Christ. See 1 John 2:27, for the New Covenant master teacher promised in John 14:26.
The New Covenant: Bob George
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Dispensationalism, futurism, preterism are all counter reformation eschatology and systems that no Christian believed until the 1800s
@@joshportie The following is the original source of Dispensational Theology
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To sum up your view, you believe in replacement theology?
@@guojing88 Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants?
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
I enjoyed listening to this, but I'm very surprised that he didn't say anything about Progressive Dispensationalism's believing that Jesus is seated on David's throne at the right hand of the Father. I cannot find any scriptural backing for this view at all.
That's exactly one of my issues with it too
Could you point in the direction where progressive dispensationalism teaches and adhere to that?
It's called the "dispensation of GRACE", the "mystery" that was given to Paul by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the COVENANTS of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 2:13 BUT NOW in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
No it's not. Dispensationalism was invented in the 1800s for Jesuit futurism. Its counter reformation eschatology from Rome.
@@joshportie last time I checked it was issued by GOD HIMSELF to "Paul"
Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the DISPENSATION of GOD WHICH IS GIVEN to me(PAUL)for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the DISPENSATION of the GRACE OF GOD WHICH is GIVEN ME(PAUL)to you-ward:
Sounds like God is dispensationalist to me, undeniable from these passages of scripture. God does NOT CHANGE, BUT His dealings with "man" have changed throughout the Bible, for example the dietary law: Adam and Eve did NOT EAT meat, 1500 yrs later after the flood, Noah was not commanded NOT to eat any meat that was bloody(couldn't be rare). 1000 yrs later to Moses, he was given command to eat specific meats and abstain from certain ones. 1500 yrs to Paul we are given the opportunity to eat ANYTHING we want. Read your Bible stop going off what "man" say and STUDY YOUR BIBLE...2 TIMOTHY 2:15
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING(Dispensation)the word of truth.
@@joshportie, the conspiracy theory that Darby got Dispensationalism from Jesuit Futurism is refuted by the fact that God made promises to restore the Kingdom of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And while God sent the Gospel to the Gentiles, Paul said his gifts and callings are irrevocable, so now Israel is hardened until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in then all Israel shall be saved. This means there will be a big Israelite revival after the Rapture, and that’s exactly what we see in Rev 7 right before the great tribulation starts.
The new idea that God is done with national, ethnic Israel was invented by Augustine and adopted by popes because it made them the supposed king of earth, sitting on Christ’s throne. Then Protestant monarchs retained the doctrine because of the massive power it gave them. All Darby did was rediscover doctrines that had been suppressed for many centuries, and he wasn’t the first to find it by a long shot. See "Dispensationalism Before Darby" by William C. Watson.
Edward Irving preached on Manuel Lacunzas (the Jesuit) eschatology in London, in which Darby also attended. It was after this time that Darby started propagating his theories, thereby helping the Catholic Church to deflect the prevailing thought that the Pope was the anti Christ. So I see a closer connection to Lacunza rather than St Paul
@@ravinroyer read your Bible.
Can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. I don't care how many times they revamp this theological system it will still be flawed. There is only one people of God, one way, one truth and source of life.
Classic Dispensationalism is perhaps the most literal clear method.....Ryries "Dispensationalism today" examines both of these in simple terms and also contrasts to Covenant theology......worth reading.
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Wow, thank you for redeeming 4 years or more for me. A very grateful Image Bearer
Kingdom Already Here, Not Yet, style 🦋One in Messiah Mystery 🎉
Problem solved, as if it was to God ❤
Disagree
You know. If it has to be taught in seminary avoid it. Listen to the first two minutes
Lo único que no entiendo es cuando el hno Blaising trata de explicar lo que sig la iglesia para el dispensacionalismo progresivo y que según el es distinto de como ve la iglesia el dispensacionalismo tradicional , no puedo ver o entender la diferencia ya que para mi los dos dicen lo mismo de la iglesia
If this man is a professor at one of our Bible colleges, now I see why it's so difficult to find a preacher to fill the pulpit of a local church.
@PAUL THE GNOSTIC Enemy to AgnosticsAtheistsPagans because he does not teach the Bible. He teaches all different ways different folks interpret the Bible permitting his students to fit their theology to the thoughts of the congregation.
Makes more sense than classical Dispensationalism. High time the church is liberated from Darby/ Scofield captivity, which put parts of the church in a deep sleep mode. Time for inaugurated eschatology to take its rightful place.
The following proves the errors of all forms of Dispensational Theology.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants?
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
10. Watch the TH-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
@@SpotterVideo Amen bro excellent defense. Dispensationalists are like the OT Israelites always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 2 Tim 3:7
@@SpotterVideo Not "replaced" but superseded.
@@mangairavin1928 ignorant statement
One people of God = the elect?
Context?
@@elijahrose7913 Sorry I may have lost the thread - context for what?
"Oi" pronounced "i" (ee) by Greeks.
Why would anyone trim rotten fruit, when it is rotten to the core? Dispensational Theology cannot be fixed. It is a form of Dual Covenant Theology, based on race.
Who has replaced "Abraham" in Genesis 12:3, with all of his descendants?
Who has replaced the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God?
Who has replaced the One Seed, with the many seeds, in Galatians 3:16?
Who has replaced the Church made up of all races of people, with one made only of Gentiles?
Who has replaced the "son", who is the "heir" to the land, with those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone", in Matthew chapter 21?
Who has replaced the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh, in Romans 9:8?
Who has replaced the word "so", with the word "then", in Romans 11:26?
Who has replaced the eternal land promise found in Hebrews 11:15-16, with one on this sin-cursed earth. What happens to this earth in 2 Peter 3:10-13? How can there be an eternal land promise on this temporary planet?
Why did Peter address the crowd as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? (Acts 2:36) Who was Peter talking to? The Gentiles were not grafted into the New Covenant Church until several years later.
Why did James address his letter to "the twelve tribes", who were his "brethren", in the "faith"? Who was James talking to?
Why has the modern Church told Orthodox Jews they are God's chosen people, and then failed to share the Gospel with them? How many of those people have died without Christ? The "son" in Psalm 2, and the "suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the promise of the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of Daniel 9, prove that the baby born in a manger is the Messiah promised in the Hebrew scriptures. Why have we never seen this simple Old Testament Gospel message on Christian television? The Two Peoples of God doctrine is part of the problem.
Was John the Baptist an "antisemite" when he told his own people not to put their confidence in being Abraham's seed, in Luke 3:8? What did Paul say about genealogies in Titus 3:9?
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Thanks for putting the time into your comments. That have been very helpful to me.
What GOD has put together, let not man take apart. Jew and Gentile, ONE IN MESSIAH.
Whatever is wrong with you, is no "little thing".
GENESIS 4:1 (exhaustive) And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). TARGUM (exhaustive) who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bear Kain; And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). Genesis 3:14-15 The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals;upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman,and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. Fruit is the Hebrew word pirchach,, meaning progeny, brood, children or descendants. Genesis 3:3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’
Not true.
Just awful theology😫