I'm from the US and they don't really mind if you double-clutch or flout but when you're in a school I know they prefer you to double clutch for the test but after that its only recommended like you said in Canada.
In Canada double clutching necessary for doing your road test. Once you achieve the license, you can power shift/float shift. Some companies have preference but not many.
Thank you..i drive a 13.curious on the 18.i jus learned it in 30 seconds of ure video wow.its jus splitin the lower gears .so simple thank you brother nice vid .have great day
no problem at all buddy thats why i made this video so people have more resources to help! I'm glad that you enjoyed and thanks for watching buddy! have a great day aswell!
Hello I want to thank you for the explanation of. How to drive one of those beautiful trucks. You are very good at teaching. Again thanks and I wish you the best in your life. Christian.
I got my Class 1 in BC and during my test I floated the gears. I NEVER learned how to double clutch although I understand the principles. I used a hybrid method. I don’t use the clutch to upshift but use the clutch to take it out of gear on the downshift.
Great video, didn't know you can shift the 18 speed like a 13 speed starting off ,that will be very useful since a just got an 18 speed. THANKS for making this video, it will be very useful 👍 👌 😀
anytime buddy! honestly a 18 speed basically a 13 only difference is you can split the bottom gears if you are in a big hill! i almost never have to use all 18 i basically always shift mine like it's a 13. thanks for watching buddy!
When tried to watch the tach I wud struggle t getmy gear. I learned by whats known as by the seat of my pants. Ike you said, in time it will be by sound and feel. Otherwise double clutching is a good thing to know if you mess the shift up pretty bad. Double clutching usually saved me to make a correction without having to stop and start over.
You don't wear out a clutch by using it to shift, it's worn out by slow maneuvering, backing up into a loading dock or parking spot, starting out from a dead stop with a heavy load. So you can learn to shift without using the clutch, just be sure to save some money to replace the transmission as you learn to shift.
That's a load of crap. You don't need to use the clutch to shift. I've drove almost 800,000 miles, 500,000 of that with the same truck, and I've never had any transmission problems. Clutch, shifter, air switch, nothing.
Manufacturers often err on the side of caution. A lot of the big companies are switching to autos because they hire a bunch of newbies that can't float gears properly. If you couldn't shift without using the clutch, it wouldn't be so easy to do. Do you even drive a semi? If you do, I'm sure that the makers of clutch return springs and your orthopedic surgeon will be thanking you soon enough. About 1% of drivers double clutch on their actual job. The other 99% actually know what they're doing. Being required to double clutch at trucking schools and for state tests has nothing to do with reality. It's some stupid rule they came up to give someone something to do. I very rarely grind gears and haven't a clutch replacement yet. So try again
@@markpolice3585 what part of learning to shift don't you understand? You can drive how ever you want, all im saying, let the transmission manufacturers find out you don't double clucht, and you'll void the warranty.
I suck at floating gears. Especially since mine is a wonky 13 speed without quick shifting. Can't just drop the accelerator and shift, gotta clutch, neutral, switch, disengage clutch. Same for lo-hi and split: clutch-neutral-switch-disengage Due note: most frustrating is the splitter sometimes fails to work so going 4H to 1H. *this is done in a simulator rig*
This is the only video I've seen where this gentleman shifted correctly, by pre selecting every gear change, the biggest mistake I see other videos make is moving the splitter while in neutral
thank you! typically the rule of thumb you can down shift at 1000 rpm and i don't over rev to down shift i basically rev it enough to feather it into the next lowest gear! I hope that helps buddy!
Full gear is usualy worth 500 rpm ish. And a half gear is about 250 rpm. If you try for a downshift at 1400 rpm and need to make another 500 rpm for the next lower gear that engine is pretty much wound right out, harder on everything mechanical and if you need to accelerate again your gonna need a different gear if you’re slammed on the redline already. Easier to shift down low. These motors are happy down at 11-1200 rpm
I'm going for 2 road tests in an 18.. I've only driven a 10 in school and the clutch/shifter was pretty worn out. I know there are cheats for a 10 if you lose a gear. like 35mph 3+5 is 8th gear. Does an 18 shift above or below the mph for a 10. In other words if I drive it like an 8 without splitting what are the mph ranges compared to a 10?
Josh Peterbilt389 oh for sure bud I love it, it drives and shifts really good 👍 be sure to subscribe there’s a lot more videos to come thanks for the comment
Josh Peterbilt389 I’ve drove a 389 with a Paccar before I totally prefer the X15 Cummins. My truck had the X15 550 stock Cummins with 355 rear ends with the 18 speed I get great fuel mileage and she pulls pretty good! I’ve never ran a Cummins before until now and I’ve learned a lot about them!
Hey man, I have an 18sp. And having an issue with splitting from 6th high to 7th low. What's the trick for that. I split the other gears fine.? Normally I just leave the splitter in high position after 6th high cause of the little gring 7th and 8th have. Thanks
What rpms do you shift on a 2020 peterbilt 389 with a Cummins X15 18 speed? I was driving a 379 Pete with a cat c-15 before I got into the 2020 Pete 389 and the shifting or gears is so much different. Can’t really find the sweet spot on the Cummins x15. Can you please explain?
Hey bud sorry for the late response It’s been a crazy week I took a load down to Texas from Ontario the cats and the Cummins are a little different Honestly I shift mine just by feel and sound I don’t really have a set sweet spot depending on how much weight you’re pulling I’d say shift at around 13 1400 RPMs it’s all in what you want but I find that seems to work good in my truck let me know how it works out for you buddy thanks for the comment
You can down shift without splitting just up to you and what your comfortable with, eventually you learn how to down shift with the splitter I personally like down shifting with the splitter but there’s no wrong way!
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 thanks, I was driving an 18 but they guy told me no it’s just a 10 and thought I was an idiot whenever I tried going “5th to 6th” and it dawned on me that’s not a 10 speed haha I got another try coming up and I plan to show his ass
Forgot to add that I had a 1978 Toyota Celica that I would float the gears most of the time. That was a rear wheel drive car. All of my other standard shift cars would grind the gears if I tried to float the gears, those were front wheel drive.
Trucks are totally different than cars all trucks you can float gears or you can use a clutch whatever you prefer you just have to hit it at the right RPMs
Actually buddy I do have a question when you get ready to float to the next gear does the shifter comes right out of the gear when you pull back on it or do you have to press the gas to free it ?
So basically when your getting ready to go to the next gear you want to start lightly pulling back on the shifter as your letting off the fuel / gas Peddle at the same time then it will pop to neutral and then pop into the next gear
thank you, and yes they do require you to wear shoes technically while driving and doing a road test, but as I am an owner operator and I live in my truck 5 days a week I take pride in it and do not wear my shoes to keep her clean inside and out. thanks for watching.
As a 48 year long haul driver I can tell you that your shifting is excellent. You pass! However, I was horrified to see that you chose to not have adjustable safety convex mirrors on both sides. You have dramatically narrowed your field of view. Why do that to yourself? A stick on convex is NOT adjustable, so the upper half is looking at the sky, and the inner half is looking at your truck. How is that going to help you? You now have one quarter of a useful convex. For the price of a couple of adjustable convex mirrors, you could save thousand in litigation and accident headaches.
I'm from the US and they don't really mind if you double-clutch or flout but when you're in a school I know they prefer you to double clutch for the test but after that its only recommended like you said in Canada.
Best explanation I’ve seen yet.
Thanks brother 🤘
In Canada double clutching necessary for doing your road test. Once you achieve the license, you can power shift/float shift. Some companies have preference but not many.
Thank you..i drive a 13.curious on the 18.i jus learned it in 30 seconds of ure video wow.its jus splitin the lower gears .so simple thank you brother nice vid .have great day
no problem at all buddy thats why i made this video so people have more resources to help! I'm glad that you enjoyed and thanks for watching buddy! have a great day aswell!
Hello I want to thank you for the explanation of. How to drive one of those beautiful trucks. You are very good at teaching. Again thanks and I wish you the best in your life. Christian.
I got my Class 1 in BC and during my test I floated the gears. I NEVER learned how to double clutch although I understand the principles. I used a hybrid method. I don’t use the clutch to upshift but use the clutch to take it out of gear on the downshift.
Excellent vídeo. Congratulations bro.
Yep here in the states you have to double it up when you go back to school what an experience it was got mine in 2010
Beautiful tractor my favorite color 😍😍😍cleaaaan keep it up man
Thanks!
Great video, didn't know you can shift the 18 speed like a 13 speed starting off ,that will be very useful since a just got an 18 speed. THANKS for making this video, it will be very useful 👍 👌 😀
anytime buddy! honestly a 18 speed basically a 13 only difference is you can split the bottom gears if you are in a big hill! i almost never have to use all 18 i basically always shift mine like it's a 13. thanks for watching buddy!
Truck driving school teaches you to double clutch in AZ. You have to do this when you test out.
When tried to watch the tach I wud struggle t getmy gear. I learned by whats known as by the seat of my pants. Ike you said, in time it will be by sound and feel. Otherwise double clutching is a good thing to know if you mess the shift up pretty bad. Double clutching usually saved me to make a correction without having to stop and start over.
What is more manly than a Peterbuilt with 18 gears. Bravo!!!!!.
I'm in New Hampshire I didn't have to use the clutch I floated the gears on my test.
That’s awesome 👍
I did too in CA. Also, I was trained to float at my first job. Never double cluched in my life lol.
Thank 4U time to show how to flow those gears driver always is helpful this video tnk U B safe
Beautiful truck, I have a 379 with a cat and this flattop really makes me want to buy one now LOL. Stay safe out there brother
thats awesome the flat tops looks cool but not much room lol i really appreciate that man you stay safe as well!
You don't wear out a clutch by using it to shift, it's worn out by slow maneuvering, backing up into a loading dock or parking spot, starting out from a dead stop with a heavy load. So you can learn to shift without using the clutch, just be sure to save some money to replace the transmission as you learn to shift.
That's a load of crap. You don't need to use the clutch to shift. I've drove almost 800,000 miles, 500,000 of that with the same truck, and I've never had any transmission problems. Clutch, shifter, air switch, nothing.
@@markpolice3585 I suppose it's possible you know more then the people that design and build the transmissions, but I doubt it.
Manufacturers often err on the side of caution. A lot of the big companies are switching to autos because they hire a bunch of newbies that can't float gears properly. If you couldn't shift without using the clutch, it wouldn't be so easy to do. Do you even drive a semi? If you do, I'm sure that the makers of clutch return springs and your orthopedic surgeon will be thanking you soon enough. About 1% of drivers double clutch on their actual job. The other 99% actually know what they're doing. Being required to double clutch at trucking schools and for state tests has nothing to do with reality. It's some stupid rule they came up to give someone something to do. I very rarely grind gears and haven't a clutch replacement yet. So try again
@@markpolice3585 what part of learning to shift don't you understand? You can drive how ever you want, all im saying, let the transmission manufacturers find out you don't double clucht, and you'll void the warranty.
@@thomaskirkpatrick4031 Yeah. They would know I don't double clutch because I'd never make a claim.
I've driven 10spd my entire life. Now trying to get into frac hauling and they require 18spd lol. Nice learning curve
Thanks for the advice 🙏 👍
When climbing up hills with heavier loads, what gears do you use
Good info.
I suck at floating gears.
Especially since mine is a wonky 13 speed without quick shifting.
Can't just drop the accelerator and shift, gotta clutch, neutral, switch, disengage clutch. Same for lo-hi and split: clutch-neutral-switch-disengage
Due note: most frustrating is the splitter sometimes fails to work so going 4H to 1H. *this is done in a simulator rig*
Nice video can kind of see you working the pedals, can you show more pedal action?
Thanks ya for sure we were actually talking today about maybe doing another one of these videos and actually showing a lot more 👍
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 nice, yea showing your foot working the pedal would be cool. Do u ever drive barefoot?
@@Andrea31766 I drive in my socks I don’t wear shoes going down the road
Here in Australia, learner drivers need to demonstrate double clutching to pass our driver test. (That’s if you’re learning in a road ranger)
Same in USA.
Great video thanks! Can you make video how you do a video of how driving down hill and up hill
thanks for watching! i can one day make something like that
What company do you driver for I had a passion to drive livestock but can not find a company can you please let me know
This is the only video I've seen where this gentleman shifted correctly, by pre selecting every gear change, the biggest mistake I see other videos make is moving the splitter while in neutral
Thanks buddy I appreciate that!
Great Video! Question about downshifting, what RPM do you generally start a downshift and how much do you rev your engine for the next lowest gear?
thank you! typically the rule of thumb you can down shift at 1000 rpm and i don't over rev to down shift i basically rev it enough to feather it into the next lowest gear! I hope that helps buddy!
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 Thank you, sir! What is the advantage of downshifting at 1000 rpm as opposed to say 1200 or 1400?
Full gear is usualy worth 500 rpm ish. And a half gear is about 250 rpm. If you try for a downshift at 1400 rpm and need to make another 500 rpm for the next lower gear that engine is pretty much wound right out, harder on everything mechanical and if you need to accelerate again your gonna need a different gear if you’re slammed on the redline already.
Easier to shift down low. These motors are happy down at 11-1200 rpm
Very good video! Great!
my driving teacher is sucha fob im learning more from youtube videos...
Here in the United States it is the same, double clutch on road test. Also, we also float gears in the real world.
I'm going for 2 road tests in an 18.. I've only driven a 10 in school and the clutch/shifter was pretty worn out. I know there are cheats for a 10 if you lose a gear. like 35mph 3+5 is 8th gear. Does an 18 shift above or below the mph for a 10. In other words if I drive it like an 8 without splitting what are the mph ranges compared to a 10?
How you like driving the Peterbilt 389 ? I love that truck best stick shift truck ever
Josh Peterbilt389 oh for sure bud I love it, it drives and shifts really good 👍 be sure to subscribe there’s a lot more videos to come thanks for the comment
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 Paccar vs CumminsX15 for engine which one
Josh Peterbilt389 I’ve drove a 389 with a Paccar before I totally prefer the X15 Cummins. My truck had the X15 550 stock Cummins with 355 rear ends with the 18 speed I get great fuel mileage and she pulls pretty good! I’ve never ran a Cummins before until now and I’ve learned a lot about them!
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 what’s your preference?
Josh Peterbilt389 I totally prefer the Cummins What do you run in your truck
What road speeds do we downshift each gear?
Hey man, I have an 18sp. And having an issue with splitting from 6th high to 7th low. What's the trick for that. I split the other gears fine.? Normally I just leave the splitter in high position after 6th high cause of the little gring 7th and 8th have. Thanks
its the transmission
18 speed for heavy/mountains, 13 for flat/light.
What rpms do you shift on a 2020 peterbilt 389 with a Cummins X15 18 speed? I was driving a 379 Pete with a cat c-15 before I got into the 2020 Pete 389 and the shifting or gears is so much different. Can’t really find the sweet spot on the Cummins x15. Can you please explain?
Hey bud sorry for the late response It’s been a crazy week I took a load down to Texas from Ontario the cats and the Cummins are a little different Honestly I shift mine just by feel and sound I don’t really have a set sweet spot depending on how much weight you’re pulling I’d say shift at around 13 1400 RPMs it’s all in what you want but I find that seems to work good in my truck let me know how it works out for you buddy thanks for the comment
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Do you have to split while downshifting or can you just downshift like it’s a 10 speed?
You can down shift without splitting just up to you and what your comfortable with, eventually you learn how to down shift with the splitter I personally like down shifting with the splitter but there’s no wrong way!
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 thanks, I was driving an 18 but they guy told me no it’s just a 10 and thought I was an idiot whenever I tried going “5th to 6th” and it dawned on me that’s not a 10 speed haha I got another try coming up and I plan to show his ass
Have you driven any trucks that wouldn't let you float the gears.
Forgot to add that I had a 1978 Toyota Celica that I would float the gears most of the time. That was a rear wheel drive car. All of my other standard shift cars would grind the gears if I tried to float the gears, those were front wheel drive.
Trucks are totally different than cars all trucks you can float gears or you can use a clutch whatever you prefer you just have to hit it at the right RPMs
So basically unless you need the extra low gears for mountains or heavy weight you only need to split on the high range gears.?
Hey ya that’s right on a 18 speed on a 13 speed you can’t split the lower gears
Thank you soooo much
Look at you go , very good
Charles N lol thanks
Man U helped me a lot
That’s awesome bud if there’s anything else I can help you with I’m happy to always answer questions
Actually buddy I do have a question when you get ready to float to the next gear does the shifter comes right out of the gear when you pull back on it or do you have to press the gas to free it ?
So basically when your getting ready to go to the next gear you want to start lightly pulling back on the shifter as your letting off the fuel / gas Peddle at the same time then it will pop to neutral and then pop into the next gear
@@CanadianSouthpaw02 got it thanks bro 😎
Good looking pete southpaw
Thanks brother I appreciate that
What inch shift extension do you have?
Only 6 I want to get a taller one but have it bent so it goes straight up as Peterbilt shifters always go backwards into the bunk
Your not letting us know what gears, you are shifting up or down too
Old school we float over here..,
Same here brother🤘have a awesome Christmas 🎄
nice video, dont they require shoes to drive up there?Looks like your in your socks...
thank you, and yes they do require you to wear shoes technically while driving and doing a road test, but as I am an owner operator and I live in my truck 5 days a week I take pride in it and do not wear my shoes to keep her clean inside and out. thanks for watching.
As a 48 year long haul driver I can tell you that your shifting is excellent. You pass! However, I was horrified to see that you chose to not have adjustable safety convex mirrors on both sides. You have dramatically narrowed your field of view. Why do that to yourself? A stick on convex is NOT adjustable, so the upper half is looking at the sky, and the inner half is looking at your truck. How is that going to help you? You now have one quarter of a useful convex. For the price of a couple of adjustable convex mirrors, you could save thousand in litigation and accident headaches.
I wonder why they don’t call em 15-speeds?
Because a 15 speed is actually a thing. Eaton make it, it has a blue splitter switch instead of a red/grey.
Search 15 speed transmission on TH-cam. There are videos.
0-60 in 3 days
Is this video from the last century? Which modern truck still has a clutch? We have automatic transmissions. What backward country is this from?😂😂😂
When u on your own u can float gears
Darn, he is handsome.