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I feel like going from huge panels you bought to a couple of taped up egg cartons isn’t really a fair comparison… I’m also surprised they worked, particularly as the attachment was so half hearted. But this video is actually making me think they would work pretty well if strategically stuck together as panels themselves, and much more eco friendly if you source them second hand! Also could have some fun decorating
I confirm. I was going to write the same thing. I have a noisy server in my apartment. I silenced it with egg cartons (for 30 eggs). I checked it and it was quieter by about 8-10dB. The volume used to be 1000Hz, but now it's much better (the server is on extruders) I placed it in front of and behind the fans and it's also quieter.
I had the EXACT same thought. 6 HUGE panels to 12 randomly tossed egg cartons...I feel like them being made into panels over stacked might work really well (pack of 500 for 25$ of the cheap-os btw we buy them for the farm not from whole foods lol)
if it looks like poo, get the square ones, the ones where you have 16 or 32 eggs not the 12 ones...bruh/duh 1 - you'll get two sides to put on wall, you'll cover twice surface than the 12-egg sized-cartons 2 - each side will be larger than cartons you have 3 - each side has this egg nest pattern 4 - box are roughly square. and symetrical. 5 - you also can paint them with an aerosol paint. it will be less prone to catch air moisture on a good side effect 6- you can use pins to install them instead of using the worst tape ever that barely holds 2 pieces of paper.
Beep test: Run an all-frequency envelope beep before and after dampening. Record beep with external mikes, placed strategically in the room each on their own track. Measure the difference. This is a very accurate and scientific way of testing the frequency fall-off per frequency recorded. Note The beep is limited by the recording equipment and the output speakers, however.
What a difference the sound boards made. I guess I'll be spending a little money on those foam squares. Heck I may even make some acoustic panels now. Thank you for sharing these tests.
I doubt you are suppose to use them like that lol. When I thought about doing this, I thought about just using the egg part. Get enough and place them side by side up and down. No one is going to hang egg cartons like that. They will most likely place them like the panels you have.
now try the big square ones, that are literally just cones and try layering do a complete test this is kinda not even trying kinda attempt but for somebody who works in a kitchen, can just grab home like 30 of the big square ones
Will acoustic foam provide extra soundproofing if added on top of rockwool? Have tenants in the basement and put rockwool between the floors. It helps but is not perfect. We're going to pull up our floor in the room over the tenant's bedroom and this would be the perfect time to add additional soundproofing. Would appreciate your advice!
Yippee! I've wondered about egg cartons, and how the chickens get them in there so neatly. 🤔 Now, I'll let the chickens keep the cartons. ~~~Cool microphone, btw.
Haha it worked better than you thought it would, it surprised me too. Thing is you were a bit dismissive of them and you were caught off guard. I believe they do absorb sound, but the absorption is curve isn't very useful. The absorption curve peaks at around 600hz
You're supposed to stuff them full of crumpled newspaper and glue them to EVA foam CLOSED. Make panels with them and then spray paint them black. With the flat part glued to the foam surface and the lumpy parts facing outwards.
Thanks for the video!! Loving the content, just subbed a little while ago. Just a suggestion, maybe out the in-video video card links in a dedicated section of a videos description. After finishing I wanted to find your DIY video, but had to scrub through the video to find the card again (which disappeared, so I had to go to toe channels lists).
I'm curious though how egg cartons would perform in a mini-booth setup. Like could you have something the size of a refrigerator box and cover the inside with cartons? Would that be enough to at least cut out any echo or ambient PC sounds?
Tbh, I suspect if you just taped a dozen or so fragments of actual acoustic panels, half heartedly around the room with huge gaps between them, the results would be similar.
Honestly, I don’t think it would make much of a difference… might as well just make some diy acoustic panels and have something g that looks good on the wall… lol
Yes diference Is not soundproofing/reverberation , because eggs Cartoon not work as foam as like absorb air but breaks flatter echo bettween 2 paralel surfaces, and the bad frequency Is spread out , which makes echo/reverb sound softer, cleaner And better
Not very impressed by the lack of effort put into this video. Also they aren't even being used properly + who buys egg cartons? I have like 150 in my basement just from buying eggs at the grocery store.
I agree they look like vids of dog eating dog poop. But, the way u have them remind me of Cub Scouts and stickering (sticker wall paper). So.. Nice mancave ! But ... COLLECT ENUFF: Staple them on the walls an ceiling in wall-paper style; Then, nail tack cleaned, used carpet onto the walls and ceiling Over them. ... now that is also a Ton of trash diversion ! (I'm a drummette and sculptress). so, where do u want me to send these items I have collected? I have about 2 dozen. (Ps... make sure they are clean) ...or should I condense mine into paper-pulp sculpting material? ...
I thought egg cartons along with painting the walls black as well as some other things. I thought this since grade four. I use to watch a show call Popular mechanics for kids and they allegedly were successfully in sound proofing a room. I blame PMK. Also, I remember them better fitting their egg cartons together and they covered the entire wall with them.
HAHAH this guy is amazing, this really helps to understand how it all works, and the myth about collecting this for no reason. I am one of those who used to believe egg cartons would work better than foam...
try to cover the entire wall with those egg trays. I mean do not even leave a single space... you will see the difference. how do I say that?.. well, I turned my room into a studio using only egg trays. I covered the entire flat wall as you say but I did not leave any small space without it even the corners. I play electric guitar inside and my housemate has a good and deep sleep.
I think you have no idea how to work with so-called “egg cartons” and “egg creates” (30x30cm). I’ve made 7 x 3 panels (210cm x 90cm) with a foundation of 3x 2 crates (glue gun) with 2 crates on top (glue gun), i.e., 8 creates per 1x3 module. 7 of these modules can be glued together to create a panel of 56 creates. These are glued onto thin cardboard with a thin wood board stapled and glue to the top. These panels can attached to the wall with two plaster-ready screws. We have 3 panels (168 creates) for 210cm x 270cm (83in x 107in). These are hidden with curtains. This system stops (!) kitchen and washing machine noises from the other side! The cardboard backing was 10 Euros, the “stick” (cut into 3) was 3 euro, the glue was 10 euro, and the egg crates were 30 Euros for 140 (30 x 168/140= 36 euros). The total cost of the panels was 60 Euros (and 8 hours of labor) for a panel 7x9 feet or about 1 euro per square foot (not including the cost of the 30 euro glue gun).
What??? This is a bad comparison. You had, what, 20 egg cartons? Each are a little less than 1 sqft, and the most sound-dampening part of the egg carton are the egg-holding divets, which are 4" by 1'. Whereas your six sound panels were 2'x3'? So you're comparing 6.6 sqft of egg cartons to 36 sqft of sound panels. LAME
I’m pretty certain they weren’t talking about actual egg cartons but egg crate foam bedding is what people are using. I just can’t believe you didn’t figure that out before you made and posted a video.
1) they are the wrong way. it's the inside part that goes to the wall. 2) you have to cover the whole wall floor to ceiling 3) I'm not buying the acoustic panels youre trying to sell right now Guys go with what's cheap and easy and foolproof. well not for this guy it wasn't. he misrepresented the egg cartons entirely
Spray painting them wouldn't work, it would make their surfaces more smooth and reduce their effectiveness. BTW, just a cheap open cell soft foam works better than egg cartons. So buying some soft foam that isn't even meant for sound absorbing specifically, but is super cheap, still works quite well. Basically as long as a foam is open cell and soft, it works. Of course corporations that make products want to sell those products, so they will try to convince you that nothing works other than their product, even if you can find something that is basically the identical type of material etc. This is a corporate world we live in, you just have to gain understanding and then you can achieve things with that understanding on your own. Egg cartons themselves have a cool shape that can be good for redirection and such, but the material they are made out of isn't that suitable for sound absorption, it's basically just cardboard. Cardboard if very thick and dense like MDF is a great sound blocker, but it has very low sound absorption properties from noises inside the room itself.
the egg carton that everyone is mention are not those one you can buy from groceries, it's one of those 90s type of 20x20 recycled egg tray cartons that you can get from farms the design are quite different from what you are using, and also that's like little to nothing you have used, im sorry but I have to thumbs down this video from what you have shown...
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I feel like going from huge panels you bought to a couple of taped up egg cartons isn’t really a fair comparison… I’m also surprised they worked, particularly as the attachment was so half hearted. But this video is actually making me think they would work pretty well if strategically stuck together as panels themselves, and much more eco friendly if you source them second hand! Also could have some fun decorating
Eco friendly and echo friendly
I confirm. I was going to write the same thing.
I have a noisy server in my apartment. I silenced it with egg cartons (for 30 eggs).
I checked it and it was quieter by about 8-10dB.
The volume used to be 1000Hz, but now it's much better (the server is on extruders)
I placed it in front of and behind the fans and it's also quieter.
Totally agree. installed with any care i'm sure the egg cartons would have made a significant difference.
@@clutchbearing I tested. reduces the volume by a few dB. Mineral wool works better. Attenuates low frequencies
I had the EXACT same thought.
6 HUGE panels to 12 randomly tossed egg cartons...I feel like them being made into panels over stacked might work really well (pack of 500 for 25$ of the cheap-os btw we buy them for the farm not from whole foods lol)
if it looks like poo, get the square ones, the ones where you have 16 or 32 eggs not the 12 ones...bruh/duh
1 - you'll get two sides to put on wall, you'll cover twice surface than the 12-egg sized-cartons
2 - each side will be larger than cartons you have
3 - each side has this egg nest pattern
4 - box are roughly square. and symetrical.
5 - you also can paint them with an aerosol paint. it will be less prone to catch air moisture on a good side effect
6- you can use pins to install them instead of using the worst tape ever that barely holds 2 pieces of paper.
How about covering the entire wall? Would that work? What you did is randomly place them, not sure that will be optimal
Exactly, and cut the tops off. Make a panel of them not just stick intact cartons on the wall with tape. 😂
@@almoniesso are you an advocate for egg cartons working?
You didn't even try. You randomly placed egg cartons with a single piece of tape sporadically on the wall seems more like sarcasm than effort.
Beep test: Run an all-frequency envelope beep before and after dampening. Record beep with external mikes, placed strategically in the room each on their own track. Measure the difference. This is a very accurate and scientific way of testing the frequency fall-off per frequency recorded. Note The beep is limited by the recording equipment and the output speakers, however.
Thanks for the feedback.
Easier to try with the 32 egg carton , maybe doubled layer. It's almost a sqft tile
They're probably not good at absorption, but should be pretty good at diffusing. And that would definitely help.
What a difference the sound boards made.
I guess I'll be spending a little money on those foam squares. Heck I may even make some acoustic panels now.
Thank you for sharing these tests.
what's your advice for doing a drum room?
It’s for diffusing
Try foam filling the egg boxes then try again
this is exactly what I'm going to do in my studio
I doubt you are suppose to use them like that lol. When I thought about doing this, I thought about just using the egg part. Get enough and place them side by side up and down. No one is going to hang egg cartons like that. They will most likely place them like the panels you have.
3:55 INVALID argument. Use the big trays, not the full box 🤦🏻♂️
What would you do for a tiny house the metal roof is so loud with the storms and rain 😒Help!!
now try the big square ones, that are literally just cones
and try layering
do a complete test
this is kinda not even trying kinda attempt
but for somebody who works in a kitchen, can just grab home like 30 of the big square ones
I appreciate your time as well as all the effort and resources you put these videos
Will acoustic foam provide extra soundproofing if added on top of rockwool? Have tenants in the basement and put rockwool between the floors. It helps but is not perfect. We're going to pull up our floor in the room over the tenant's bedroom and this would be the perfect time to add additional soundproofing. Would appreciate your advice!
Thanks for answering, I always wondered if they really worked!
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Singing in shower? Testing in washroom: any difference when close shower/tub curtains? Tile and tub concave will echo sound back.
I heard the difference between the before and after so it works.
Thanks for the video! Could you do a good, better, and best for a DIY panel? I would love to make one for my room.
Great idea! come up with something! :)
Yippee! I've wondered about egg cartons, and how the chickens get them in there so neatly. 🤔 Now, I'll let the chickens keep the cartons. ~~~Cool microphone, btw.
The Egg Cartons appear to be ok as a diffuser alternative rather than absorber alternative.
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Can a cement board also be used as soundproofing?
Haha it worked better than you thought it would, it surprised me too. Thing is you were a bit dismissive of them and you were caught off guard.
I believe they do absorb sound, but the absorption is curve isn't very useful. The absorption curve peaks at around 600hz
This is an elongated soundproof panel AD.
The cartons randomly falling off just killed me 😂
You're supposed to stuff them full of crumpled newspaper and glue them to EVA foam CLOSED. Make panels with them and then spray paint them black. With the flat part glued to the foam surface and the lumpy parts facing outwards.
Thanks for the video!! Loving the content, just subbed a little while ago.
Just a suggestion, maybe out the in-video video card links in a dedicated section of a videos description. After finishing I wanted to find your DIY video, but had to scrub through the video to find the card again (which disappeared, so I had to go to toe channels lists).
Great idea! I’ll add them in the description from now on and go back a few when I have the chance! 😊
im going to make a egg carton curtain to put on the door of my apartment
Watching Wu-Tang American Saga Rza with this ingenious idea of soundproofing a music booth brought me here
I'm curious though how egg cartons would perform in a mini-booth setup. Like could you have something the size of a refrigerator box and cover the inside with cartons? Would that be enough to at least cut out any echo or ambient PC sounds?
It would cut out some echo but wouldn’t sound as good as acoustic foam.
Tbh, I suspect if you just taped a dozen or so fragments of actual acoustic panels, half heartedly around the room with huge gaps between them, the results would be similar.
Interesting thank you
Oh man! I was wondering about the egg carts! I thought that people where saying you had to layer them?
Honestly, I don’t think it would make much of a difference… might as well just make some diy acoustic panels and have something g that looks good on the wall… lol
@@soundproofguide I’m an artist, so I could come up with something but the easier route seems like the panels lol!
@@soundproofguide my brother had a band 42 years ago. They put this on studio walls and it worked perfectly and didn't look like shit.
Yes diference Is not soundproofing/reverberation , because eggs Cartoon not work as foam as like absorb air but breaks flatter echo bettween 2 paralel surfaces, and the bad frequency Is spread out , which makes echo/reverb sound softer, cleaner And better
Try filling the egg cartons with glass wool insulation aswell!!?
I haven’t tried that. Good idea for a follow up video! 😊
Might as well just put glass woll insulation in the wall
Not very impressed by the lack of effort put into this video.
Also they aren't even being used properly + who buys egg cartons? I have like 150 in my basement just from buying eggs at the grocery store.
I agree they look like vids of dog eating dog poop.
But, the way u have them remind me of Cub Scouts and stickering (sticker wall paper). So.. Nice mancave !
But ...
COLLECT ENUFF: Staple them on the walls an ceiling in wall-paper style; Then, nail tack cleaned, used carpet onto the walls and ceiling Over them. ... now that is also a Ton of trash diversion !
(I'm a drummette and sculptress).
so, where do u want me to send these items I have collected? I have about 2 dozen. (Ps... make sure they are clean)
...or should I condense mine into paper-pulp sculpting material? ...
Flooring carpet works even better.
To be honest the egg cartons sounded way better than nothing. But of course the acoustics panels sounded better
I thought egg cartons along with painting the walls black as well as some other things. I thought this since grade four. I use to watch a show call Popular mechanics for kids and they allegedly were successfully in sound proofing a room. I blame PMK. Also, I remember them better fitting their egg cartons together and they covered the entire wall with them.
Well it a so called free option. ITs not a very nice look too. But making it thicker does help but u have to get alot.....!! of them.
That's not how you place the egg cartons?
Seems you're recording on the laptop and not on the mic.
The mic was connected to the laptop and not the camera. 😊
I'm sure paper seeding pots would work well.
What is your accent? I like it! Do you speak French? Haha, also great video!
It is French yes 😊
@@soundproofguide Québecois je crois
HAHAH this guy is amazing, this really helps to understand how it all works, and the myth about collecting this for no reason. I am one of those who used to believe egg cartons would work better than foam...
try to cover the entire wall with those egg trays. I mean do not even leave a single space... you will see the difference. how do I say that?.. well, I turned my room into a studio using only egg trays. I covered the entire flat wall as you say but I did not leave any small space without it even the corners. I play electric guitar inside and my housemate has a good and deep sleep.
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I think you have no idea how to work with so-called “egg cartons” and “egg creates” (30x30cm). I’ve made 7 x 3 panels (210cm x 90cm) with a foundation of 3x 2 crates (glue gun) with 2 crates on top (glue gun), i.e., 8 creates per 1x3 module. 7 of these modules can be glued together to create a panel of 56 creates. These are glued onto thin cardboard with a thin wood board stapled and glue to the top. These panels can attached to the wall with two plaster-ready screws. We have 3 panels (168 creates) for 210cm x 270cm (83in x 107in). These are hidden with curtains. This system stops (!) kitchen and washing machine noises from the other side! The cardboard backing was 10 Euros, the “stick” (cut into 3) was 3 euro, the glue was 10 euro, and the egg crates were 30 Euros for 140 (30 x 168/140= 36 euros). The total cost of the panels was 60 Euros (and 8 hours of labor) for a panel 7x9 feet or about 1 euro per square foot (not including the cost of the 30 euro glue gun).
I love the humour in the video 😂
Thanks for the tips, Im really handy, so Im definitely going to do this instead of buying them online omg . .
The cartons are hung by the wrong side.
What??? This is a bad comparison.
You had, what, 20 egg cartons? Each are a little less than 1 sqft, and the most sound-dampening part of the egg carton are the egg-holding divets, which are 4" by 1'. Whereas your six sound panels were 2'x3'?
So you're comparing 6.6 sqft of egg cartons to 36 sqft of sound panels. LAME
I’m pretty certain they weren’t talking about actual egg cartons but egg crate foam bedding is what people are using. I just can’t believe you didn’t figure that out before you made and posted a video.
No, they were talking about “egg cartons”. People do use them.
1) they are the wrong way. it's the inside part that goes to the wall. 2) you have to cover the whole wall floor to ceiling 3) I'm not buying the acoustic panels youre trying to sell right now
Guys go with what's cheap and easy and foolproof. well not for this guy it wasn't. he misrepresented the egg cartons entirely
Fire starters 😂
Cartons sounded best..
drat, i have been saving up my egg cartons for the last fifteen years, you mean it was all in vain?
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If you have tons of cartons try doubling them. I think that's worth a try.
@@beckylawler6569 probably not
Soundproofing and room treatment are two completely different concepts. This guy has no clue what he’s talking about.
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Then explain 💀
I would close the boxes and test them.
Why do you speak in a god dam fan ?
Wasn't expecting this video to be hilarious
Spray painting them wouldn't work, it would make their surfaces more smooth and reduce their effectiveness. BTW, just a cheap open cell soft foam works better than egg cartons. So buying some soft foam that isn't even meant for sound absorbing specifically, but is super cheap, still works quite well. Basically as long as a foam is open cell and soft, it works. Of course corporations that make products want to sell those products, so they will try to convince you that nothing works other than their product, even if you can find something that is basically the identical type of material etc. This is a corporate world we live in, you just have to gain understanding and then you can achieve things with that understanding on your own. Egg cartons themselves have a cool shape that can be good for redirection and such, but the material they are made out of isn't that suitable for sound absorption, it's basically just cardboard. Cardboard if very thick and dense like MDF is a great sound blocker, but it has very low sound absorption properties from noises inside the room itself.
Why u doing it in your bathroom?
Fire starters.. got it🤣✨
the egg carton that everyone is mention are not those one you can buy from groceries, it's one of those 90s type of 20x20 recycled egg tray cartons that you can get from farms the design are quite different from what you are using, and also that's like little to nothing you have used, im sorry but I have to thumbs down this video from what you have shown...
Too much waffle without getting to the point. Clicked out.
I would say this is a bit clickbait bro... Fulfil the room man
Ridiculous set up on the egg crates… This guy is in the pocket of big foam !