What if Carthage Won the FIRST Punic War?

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  • @lordfunk777
    @lordfunk777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +276

    The Seleucids in both scenarios: ''I see this as an absolute win''

    • @GAarcher
      @GAarcher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      *They are literally that in their history, like, lost the greatest hellenic battle ever? 80k soldiers each side? but you see, even if the king lost he did won in one flank of the battle so total win*

  • @simonnielsen5565
    @simonnielsen5565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    What if Cato didn't foul up the peace talks between Caesar and Pompey?
    Right before the great civil way between the two former allies, there was a negotiation to try and deescalate the situation, that nearly resulted in a treaty that both sides could agree on.
    Unfortunately Cato HATED Caesar, and shot down the proposal that everyone else wanted to go through with.
    (Cato also had political reasons, and genuine concerns with the agreement. But primarily, he seemed to have made it his life's mission to get in Caesars way)
    But what if Cato wasn't included in the negotiations? what if the two sides came to an agreement and Caesar never crossed the Rubicon?

    • @tricolourbearer2435
      @tricolourbearer2435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good what if!

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Another way to prevent the war is to have Caesar's daughter, Pompey's wife, Julia, not die in childbirth, and therefore cement the alliance between the two.

    • @thiago292
      @thiago292 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KaiHung-wv3ul just imagine if that child had grown up to become a Roman General? Having Caesar as grandfather, Pompey as father and Octavian as uncle.

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thiago292 Octavian would be his cousin, but yeah, that would be really interesting.

  • @CMVBrielman
    @CMVBrielman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    How about this: What if Rome won the First Punic War early? If Regulus beat Carthage in 255 BC, the war could have ended 14 years early, and Carthage might not have become arch rival of Rome, but just another honorable foe bested by the legions.
    Imagine if Carthage just became a wealthy client state of the Republic. The relationship could have been symbiotic: Rome could provide security while Carthage could focus on what it did best: make gobs of money.

    • @ozgurpeynirci
      @ozgurpeynirci 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Punic language would survive Arab invasions in that case, because all the other Carthaginian cities survived as semi-client states well into 300s, such as Hadrumetu, Malta, Gadiz etc. Also Carthaginian library surviving, we would have Phoenician speaking North Africa, many Newtons and Einsteins coming out from Tunisia, much more advanced in science and earlier exploration of America and Africa, Christianity spreading far slower. (It was Tunisia that spread Christianity to Italy in our timeline)

    • @SteveInLava
      @SteveInLava 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, only one Punic War that Rome would turn Carthage into a puppet state?

    • @CMVBrielman
      @CMVBrielman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SteveInLavaYup. The stress on the Roman Republic from the Second Punic War, that so destabilized Rome that it led to many of the crises that ensued, would be avoided. The devastation of Carthage also avoided.

  • @johannesbrenner4782
    @johannesbrenner4782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Normally i find your scenarios great, but today i have to say, to assume that carthage wouldn't settle rome with massive war reparations considering their, yet to be properly paid, mercenaries, it's not adequatly thought through. Carthages leadership was corrupt and arrogant one could say, but dumb they were not. Something as basic as paying their debts would have definitely been calculated into the war reps.

    • @hafor2846
      @hafor2846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or what? Both sides are tired and bankrupt. If Rome just wouldn't have paid, what would Carthage do about it?

    • @Terhe
      @Terhe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@hafor2846Carthage just could hold Sycylia at the start of war if they had a good general in the messina. Since in first punic war they just give oportunity to Roman invade Sycilia with stupidity comammender of messina defence who had much more fleet. Without war in Cycilia they could pay attention to the Italy and fight there like in second punic war and Rome won't have money ,people and wish to built strong fleet because their Republic in danger. In the end of war even if Romans destroyed Carthage army in the Italy they won't have recourcess for continune war and will pay reperations

    • @hafor2846
      @hafor2846 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @commandershortsight
    @commandershortsight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +498

    Second favourite Orange and Black PH just uploaded 😃

    • @Spacebug111
      @Spacebug111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      💀💀💀

    • @skullrevenant9573
      @skullrevenant9573 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      What's the first?😧

    • @dreamer.exe.hasstoppedwork1970
      @dreamer.exe.hasstoppedwork1970 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @@skullrevenant9573your pfp is cringe

    • @Mr.Eggthreal
      @Mr.Eggthreal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I love orange and black PH

    • @gwynnfawkx
      @gwynnfawkx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@skullrevenant9573 Phoenix Hair

  • @PVZzombieguy
    @PVZzombieguy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    Carthagenian patriots have fact checked this

    • @ERS127
      @ERS127 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Carthage > Rome imo

    • @barsukascool
      @barsukascool 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ⁠@@ERS127ah yes, some random uneffective empire is “>” than an empire that conquered half of Europe, so much of Africa and Asia and because of them, we have people in France, Iberia, Italy, Romania, Moldova and America from Texas to Drake’s strait, speaking descendence from Latin…

    • @ozgurpeynirci
      @ozgurpeynirci 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@barsukascool cope

    • @ERS127
      @ERS127 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I meant it as, „I prefer Carthage“, imo stands for In my opinion BTW

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean tunisians? Or Lebanese? Carthage doesn't really exist anymore

  • @Theoneston1
    @Theoneston1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    If Carthage won the third Punic war

    • @AppIePineapple
      @AppIePineapple 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Would be funny.

    • @NormalThe7th
      @NormalThe7th 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      April fools 2025

    • @SamFromItalia
      @SamFromItalia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      That would be like if France somehow won the war of the first coalition, simply impossible

    • @officialredactor
      @officialredactor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@SamFromItalia They won the First, I think you mean the 6/7th

    • @SamFromItalia
      @SamFromItalia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@officialredactor Bruh

  • @PauxloE
    @PauxloE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    So Carthage had money problems (how to pay the mercenaries?) in both timelines, but somehow only in our one they got the idea to grab the silver mines in Iberia?
    I guess we could have them say "let's grab Iberia" anyways, which might have led to them actually getting a more significant victory in the second war.

    • @Aras-em6nz
      @Aras-em6nz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      cartage was going to collaps eventualy, rome can simply outlive them maybe a tribe from africa or some other major power but thir fall was irrepressible.

  • @SuperJJAlexander
    @SuperJJAlexander 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    In my opinion, Hamilcar will still go to Iberia after the First Punic War as he saw the danger that these upstarts from Roma present to Carthage. And if the peace treaty contains only small war reparations from Rome, he will know that Rome will not be very weakened by it.

  • @TherealMatthias1998
    @TherealMatthias1998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    What if the Hohenzollern and Habsburg families united (it’d probably have to be a male Hohenzollern and Maria Theresa)? I think it’d be interesting if it happened pre Napoleon. If he had to face a much more centralized German state, France might lose Alsace, and possibly even Lorraine

    • @AchatTheAlpaca
      @AchatTheAlpaca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You mean a male Hohenzollern, right? ... Right?!

    • @TherealMatthias1998
      @TherealMatthias1998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AchatTheAlpaca yes haha, thank you

    • @TherealMatthias1998
      @TherealMatthias1998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AchatTheAlpaca though the Habsburgs might prefer it the other was around

    • @AchatTheAlpaca
      @AchatTheAlpaca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TherealMatthias1998 fair 💀

    • @rorymoore9269
      @rorymoore9269 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maybe if Maria Theresa and Frederick the Great were married and had a child. I know Frederick seemed to have No Intimate interests in Women but if they did have a Child. They'd form a Mighty German Realm together. I know they are 5 years apart in age so that's an issue

  • @awestruckcardboard3431
    @awestruckcardboard3431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Why would Carthage go in revolt? Its obvious Carthage would go and demand Rome reparations, Including paying off the Mercenaries, That makes no sense.

    • @magnificentname
      @magnificentname 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah i don't think Carthage would be dumb enough to not take heavy reparations from rome, even if it wasn't intended to weaken rome, they would still need it to satisfy the mercenaries

    • @gianniwu6564
      @gianniwu6564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but the mercenaries had to be paid immediately, while Rome could come up with any excuse not to pay up.
      Heck during the negotiations the Romans could just say no, wait for the mercenaries to revolt or even instigate them and then just go to the Carthaginians and say:” hey men, we aren’t going to pay you Y, but hey I heard your soldiers are demanding payment, so look we will pay a portion of it so they will calm down and then you figure it out later. Or we could join them.”
      Honestly this scenario wasn’t even a win for Carthage, it was more of a truce or draw.

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gianniwu6564 That was because Carthage was on the backfoot.
      A Carthage that has been fighting Rome for longer, Would overflow the Romans with Carthaginian Debt and Reparations like how Rome did on Carthage.
      The Mercs would not revolt if given a chance not to Kill their employers, Unless there is money invold
      Why would Carthage not demand reparations, Thats the dumbest and non polictaly savy move I would hear. They had Armies to pay, They had a Fleet to rebuild.

    • @gianniwu6564
      @gianniwu6564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@awestruckcardboard3431 Carthage could have demanded anything they wanted, but it was up to the Romans to hold their end of the bargain. If mercenaries revolted soon after end of the war, Rome would have no reason to help their enemy, maybe they wouldn’t have exploited the situation and stole Sardigna and Corsica from Carthage.
      If somehow the Carthaginian senate managed to quell their mercenaries with the promise of payment from Rome, Rome would have withheld payment as long as possible just to spite them.
      In fact the most incredulous part of this video was that Carthage didn’t go for the silver mines in Spain. I believe they would have conquered Spain to pay their short term debts and then after stabilizing the situation demand more money from the Romans.
      In fact I believe that just like in our timeline Carthage would have struck first by accusing Rome of not honoring their treaties.

    • @awestruckcardboard3431
      @awestruckcardboard3431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gianniwu6564 I do not believe Rome would be in a Position, In where itself is Requesting peace, Carthage would not take the initiative.
      If Rome refused, Back to war they go.
      Carthages expedition to Spain was mainly due to Hamlicar Barca being angry at the lost of the Punic War. So perhaps its possible, Not much would support a expensive expedition if not needed, They can get the money from lets say... Rome!

  • @floor737
    @floor737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    What if Norway Won the FIRST Punic War?
    (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

    • @SteveInLava
      @SteveInLava 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The first Punic War would be a 1v1v1. Nordic Vikings vs Roman Republic vs Carthaginian Empire

    • @donutsteelthisname1088
      @donutsteelthisname1088 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what about what if everything went wrong for norway instead? (they dont breakaway from sweden or denmark)

    • @-theguiltycormorant-1043
      @-theguiltycormorant-1043 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to see this, love norway from Romania 🇷🇴🤝🇳🇴

  • @twrampage
    @twrampage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another potential difference here is that Rome wouldn't learn the same lessons, or even as much in total, as they did when Hannibal invaded.
    Who knows how big an impact that could have had?

  • @BANon99
    @BANon99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heck yeah! New PH vid!

  • @gwynnfawkx
    @gwynnfawkx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You're the best alt history channel no doubt

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your content man! Keep them coming ❤❤❤❤

  • @macaronious
    @macaronious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video! Do a What if about a successful Operation Valkyrie next!

  • @ash_11117
    @ash_11117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For anyone who’s wondering, the song is “When Johnny Comes Marching Home” instrumental.

  • @jamaicafosvaldo
    @jamaicafosvaldo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Video 2 of asking Possible History for a video about "If Valery Sablin was succesful"

    • @pshekchik
      @pshekchik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is that some russian gay activist?

    • @jamaicafosvaldo
      @jamaicafosvaldo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pshekchik He was a captain of a soviet fleet vessel, he tried to take the ship to Leningrad to deliver a message by radio that would instigate a revolution againts the soviet government.
      "Be strong in the belief that life is wonderful. Be positive and believe that the Revolution will always win."
      That was on his letter to his son before being executed

  • @SirBolsón
    @SirBolsón 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just lost my grandfather recently so this type of content cheers me up! Bedankt Mogelijke geschiedenis! 🫡

  • @swarmsheppard
    @swarmsheppard 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing better than possible history after a long day at work

  • @KartvelArca
    @KartvelArca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More Roman videos on the roman expansionist wars please
    The Macedonian Wars
    The Seleucid War
    The Gallic Wars
    The Mithridatic Wars
    The Ptolemaic Wars
    And much more

  • @dougfowler1368
    @dougfowler1368 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do Henry IV of France assassinated in 1594. I mentioned this on another video but I think it was a couple days after posting so it wasn't seen as much

  • @Ichinisan-xp6mm
    @Ichinisan-xp6mm หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It doesn't make sense that Carthage wouldn't colonize Iberia anyway since they needed the money to repay the mercenaries. It looks like a forced victory for Rome. Carthage would've INDEED still conquered Iberia and they would've also asked a fuck ton more money to rome as rep. A LOT more.

  • @EmuCavalry
    @EmuCavalry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I like to think that Carthage won the first Punic war Rome would be humbled (but not embittered or destroyed like they would've been in the second Punic war. Rome accepts that they're just one of many powers in a multi-polar Mediterranean, similar to early-modern Europe. Carthage, Rome, Egypt, Macedonia and eventually Gallic states would be forced to compete with each other, causing innovation. Carthage would discover the new world, eventually north Europeans would form their own state, new religions would appear or old ones would reform and eventually industrialisation would occur, hundreds of years earlier.

    • @engineer_429
      @engineer_429 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Roman’s were never gonna accept that they were one of the great powers. They wanted to be The Great Power

    • @KaiHung-wv3ul
      @KaiHung-wv3ul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rome? Being reasonable and diplomatic? That's possible?

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WIll there be the video about exploring the aftermaths of both scenarios later on?
    P.S: What if the Song dynasty industrialized?

  • @LindseyTate13
    @LindseyTate13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m so excited for what if the Danlaw was still
    Around

  • @orangecitrus8056
    @orangecitrus8056 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wacky video idea: what if every single phantom island documented in history was real

  • @NY_Gaming185
    @NY_Gaming185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the release of this, oversimplified 2nd Punic war part lll is coming out tomorrow

  • @lucius_fox9393
    @lucius_fox9393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if the Ottoman Empire had collapsed in the Eastern Crisis?

  • @Sami-uw9jb
    @Sami-uw9jb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would be interesting to see What if xiognu instead of being kicked out of the Ordos Loop creating the first Mongolic steppe empire they actually defeated the Qin dynasty in 220 BCE circa and took over part of China instead of a full Han take over.

    • @OrangutanMapping
      @OrangutanMapping 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be an interesting scenario

  • @linusschult6790
    @linusschult6790 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What if charlimaigne married the queen of east rome

  • @TheRealForgetfulElephant
    @TheRealForgetfulElephant 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always wondered what would happen if Crassus had been extremely successful in Parthia. If he had conquered them and successfully annexed their territory for Rome how would history have changed. Not only was Crassus one of Caesar's biggest supporters but he also was a direct rival for Pompey. Pretty much the only reason Pompey wasn't a full-on optimate at this point was because Crassus was their guy. With him still in the picture the great civil war looks a lot different. Most likely with Pompey and Caesar working together against a much more popular Crassus. Let me know what yall think.

  • @handsomedoor1705
    @handsomedoor1705 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suggestion: what if everything went perfect for Romania/ What if Romania and Bulgaria united before ww1 (day 2,not in a row)

  • @RougeTsunami
    @RougeTsunami 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ooh! Dots for Navies! New and fun lol

  • @vincent7987-c5t
    @vincent7987-c5t 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Peace Kaiser: The Innocence of Kaiser Wilhelm II - Full Documentary
    th-cam.com/video/Sh7OEq5fm2Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @Thisisausername999
    @Thisisausername999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please make every modern empire.
    Or what if Carthage won the 3rd war 😂

  • @lucasvargasrosa2377
    @lucasvargasrosa2377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if france in ww1 invaded belgium ?

  • @yogeshkarandikar2205
    @yogeshkarandikar2205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh where is the viewer vote?
    Love your content btw
    Please do perfect Netherlands

  • @chienbanane3168
    @chienbanane3168 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if Ferdinand I of Naples could shoot lasers through his eyes?

  • @mohamedrafik2237
    @mohamedrafik2237 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a video about the name Africa ?

  • @foehammer7412
    @foehammer7412 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was a scramble for the Americas possible after the collapse of Spain's empire?
    The Monroe Doctrine when issued was obviously on its face unenforceable, but with every year that passed the U.S. grows in power until it demonstrates it very much can enforce it with the Spanish-American war of 1898. Was there ever any timeline where the America's got re-colonized? Such as a successful French takeover of Mexico in the 1860s followed by more European efforts in Latin America?

  • @ardzemhm
    @ardzemhm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me waiting for the Impossible History guy to make What if Carthage lost the first Punic war.

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur4635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea that the Barcis who were OBSESSED with Rome, NOT preparing Carthage for a war against Rome is ridiculous. In fact the Senate wanted to replicate what ROME did with Italy but with North Africa. Which they would definetly do if they won.

  • @AydanTobiasz
    @AydanTobiasz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By chance, can we get your maps?

  • @zlboyle90
    @zlboyle90 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the end of the day Cathago Delina Est occurs. As it is fair and balanced.

  • @MonsieurWeevil
    @MonsieurWeevil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your discord link seems to have expired, I need it.

  • @goofycat676
    @goofycat676 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:25 what song

  • @barsukascool
    @barsukascool 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:32 good, but nice
    Strict, but cruel

  • @TheSwedishHistorian
    @TheSwedishHistorian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:47 bruh what, they just withdrew and tried to go vietnam in pre Bc????

  • @galCheri
    @galCheri 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What if the Turkish War for Independence failed?

  • @Takeover_t
    @Takeover_t 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty pleaseeeee make a what if history went perfect for libya (on my knees rn)

  • @BradleyDantzer-x4m
    @BradleyDantzer-x4m 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does he mean by the 1848 revolutions failing spectacularly?

  • @BradleyDantzer-x4m
    @BradleyDantzer-x4m 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened to the 1848 revolutions reversed?

  • @gonzalosanchez1538
    @gonzalosanchez1538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alt History idea: the spanish right doesn't win the Spanish Civil War. I see two plaussible scenarios
    A) The war simply drags on (maybe the army doesn't get as much support from monarchists and bourgeoisie as it did) and it merges with WWII
    B) The anarchists, socialists and communists manage to cooperate and they secure a direct french intervention, or at least enough help from France, the USSR and the UK as to deal with the nazi and italian volunteers and win the war
    A is a lot more realistic than B in my opinion, but both could be interesting to explore

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This also probably leads to a Nazi invasion of Iberia simultaneous with the invasion of the Urss as the Spanish reppublic becomes a puppet state of the Soviets

  • @strawberry_milk6q
    @strawberry_milk6q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    music from 4:19?

  • @MagaldiMateus
    @MagaldiMateus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Pompeus kid won the civil war against Augustus?

  • @Neko-gaming
    @Neko-gaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if everything went perfect for denmark

  • @Wark_Mahlberg
    @Wark_Mahlberg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if everything went perfect for the axis powers?

  • @BrianYabin
    @BrianYabin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if the McMahon-Hussein Correspondence was honored?

  • @AlexBeagley
    @AlexBeagley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what if the gauls won their rebellien against ceaser

  • @Levlio12345
    @Levlio12345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What music is that? 4:03

    • @strawberry_milk6q
      @strawberry_milk6q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when Johnny comes marching home - instrumental

    • @Levlio12345
      @Levlio12345 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @Kira-is9vu
    @Kira-is9vu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Carthage had fully conquerd italy including the city of rome? What if Carthage had after that reconquerd their homeland of phönizia?

  • @planetarystargazer
    @planetarystargazer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    What If the scramble for Africa never happened

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Then Portugal would have taken it all, by senting up million of trade ports

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Then Liberia being the only proper nation in Africa, would conquer it all or at least all of Western Africa becoming the United States of Africa the second USA

    • @mesuper455
      @mesuper455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stargazer-elitei doubt they’d be stable but it’d be a really interesting scenario either way. Maybe Ethiopia does some expanding of their own.

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mesuper455 yeah Ethiopia too lol

    • @adimiryane9577
      @adimiryane9577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stargazer-elite why there is no nation in north africa?

  • @DisKKJ
    @DisKKJ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Mamluks defeated Ottomans?

  • @Gabriel-sn6yg
    @Gabriel-sn6yg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could Carthage take the silver mines in Iberia in order to pay their mercenaries?

  • @QUEfrang
    @QUEfrang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi this is a good realistic video

  • @JohnBenThame
    @JohnBenThame 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scenario idea: what if Carthage and Rome united peacefully to beat the hell out of a steroid filled greek empire

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Crassus conquered Persia with Publius

  • @dvoika2
    @dvoika2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Очень долго нами управляли, ложью наглой за нос нас водили
    От того арабами мы стали, вороги тому нас научили
    КАРФАГЕНЕЦ В БОЙ
    МЫ В РАЮ ОДНОЙ НОГОЙ
    ПУСТЬ СЕЙ КРИК УСЛЫШИТ ВСЯ ЗЕМЛЯ!

  • @RafaelFlagit
    @RafaelFlagit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if the bohemians won the battle of the Marchfield

  • @Bleach_Entertainment
    @Bleach_Entertainment 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    if Prussia lost the 7 year's war but britan won, pleas. also thank you for the content I don't rely mind what you choose I'm sore it will be good.

    • @Cdxu22121
      @Cdxu22121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He already did that

  • @weeoth8380
    @weeoth8380 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rome by all means should have lost that war, the fact it didn’t feels like a bizarre mix of plot armour and comedy

  • @moanguspickard249
    @moanguspickard249 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Carthage won all 3 wars

  • @joegattog6695
    @joegattog6695 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t really see how Rome is launching multiple invasions into Sicily and Iberia without Naval supremacy.
    Only reason why Rome even won the naval war was stumbling upon a wrecked Carthaginian Trireme in the first war which doesn’t even happen in this time line

  • @SirTrashBag
    @SirTrashBag 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do what if everything went perfect for Turkey

  • @tylerinot965
    @tylerinot965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if John II Komenos didn't die early.

  • @talyatsherphedinow-hd1lp
    @talyatsherphedinow-hd1lp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a idea for the nex video:what if.everything went perfect for islam

  • @RonaldoFan-b9w
    @RonaldoFan-b9w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if the brits stopped drinking tea?

  • @renan15jose12
    @renan15jose12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if the Khwarezmian Empire defeat the mongols?

  • @notlucas6859
    @notlucas6859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if timur reunited the mongol empire

  • @isaacskinner5565
    @isaacskinner5565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Day 13 of asking for 'what if everything went perfect for Australia'.

  • @Dude-vq3oe
    @Dude-vq3oe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool!

  • @Solkerash
    @Solkerash 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LETS GOOOOOOOO

  • @wrtekcz538
    @wrtekcz538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if somehow rome let carthage live

  • @the.real.padre.pio_2.0
    @the.real.padre.pio_2.0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks like the rise of Rome is inevitable

  • @PalauBallEdits
    @PalauBallEdits 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Empire video!!!

  • @elpepe9193
    @elpepe9193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do a what if history went perfect for Argentina

  • @Elsass6768
    @Elsass6768 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Elsàss had kept it's Empire and defeated the francs

  • @Julianist
    @Julianist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a simple man:
    I hear ph discord ping
    I click on video

  • @anthonylandin6788
    @anthonylandin6788 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if britannia stayed roman after the fall of the western roman empire

  • @dvdgo2006
    @dvdgo2006 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if pangea never Split

  • @paulinalevina9690
    @paulinalevina9690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if France won the Franco-Prussian War?

  • @horizoner2361
    @horizoner2361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    who else is watching in the 1st minute

  • @iquillizer33
    @iquillizer33 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The revenge of the republic?

  • @tpalmer4757
    @tpalmer4757 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man Carthage can just never damn win, it sucks

  • @redunbreon5911
    @redunbreon5911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video

  • @00martoneniris86
    @00martoneniris86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if the house of Bagrationi was restored in Georgia and Armenia after the independence of the Sovjet republics in the Caucasus after the fall of the Sovjet union collapse and Georgia and Armenia united under an bagrationi Monarch
    What if Russia lost the war against Iran for northern Azerbeidzjan and dident conquer Georgia and Armenia from the Sultan of the house of Osman
    What if the Empire of Tribizond Restored the Eastern Roman empire reconquered Constantinople
    What if the despotate of Epirus the Empire of Thessalonica Restored the Eastern Roman empire Reconquered Constantinople
    What if the 4 crusade failed to take Constantinopel
    What if the Empire of Nicea Reconquered Constantinopel earlier

  • @brezoianuirinel3959
    @brezoianuirinel3959 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if Mongols conquered Japan?

  • @pshekchik
    @pshekchik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if Ukrainian People's Republic (or Ukrainian State) kept it's independence after WW1?