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I can't help but imagine mercenaries from Gaul arriving to Carthage only to find out that their war against a nearby African kingdom had already been over.
I gotta say I love your channel but only scum peddle weird art sponsorships with imaginary waiting lists while preying on people's financial worries and fomo.
Great topic! I always thought that this was a huge disadvantage that Carthage had in contrast to Rome. Though, apparently they did it because they found that there were economic advantages. What would somebody have to pay you to march over the Alps into the greatest military power in the region and straight into a hoard of trained legionares?
Hannibal did exceptionally well to make his multi-ethnic mercenary army so cohesive and unified. You don't really hear of mass desertions from his army outside of the famously fickle Gauls and even they were trained to high discipline.
The fact that Hannibal made an army of 100% mercs cross the Alps, then cross the swamps of Central Italy on foot and come out of it without mutiny, desertion and winning a spectacular victory afterwards is a testament to his genius
The Mental Health crisis in the USA suffers from this problem as well, my mayor of my city threw hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars at the mental health care system and told them hey get better. Yet money isn't the issue it's how they tell people to handle their emotions and trauma. Mental Health Care Facilities here in my town won't even recommend parent-child therapy sessions if there are problems at home.
I appreciate how this video provides a detailed history of Carthage's military strategy and organization. It's fascinating to learn about the importance of economic stability in raising armies, and the impact of financial downturns on military strength. It's also interesting to see how Carthage evolved over time, from a small colony ruled by appointed governors to an oligarchic republic with a robust military force. The presentation of this history is engaging and informative. Though I found the segue to contemporary economic trends and the Masterworks sponsorship a bit jarring, I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn about Carthage and its military traditions. Thanks for sharing!
A Gaelic mercenary marine on a Carthagian war ship? Incredible! Can you imagine that man's life? The traveling he must of done, the wonders and stories he would bring back home? Fantastic episode, thank you!
You should do a video on games played by roman soldiers while on duty like ludus latrunculi or merels. As a security guard, i found it hilarious to know roman soldiers would often play a board game while on watch. It got to the point that even when they didnt have the access to a board they would carve one in the stone of wherever they were working. And to this day these game board carvings can be found all over the old world.
There is something kind of fishy with the sponsor of this, and many other, videos recently. Most of the time, advertisment is used to get customers. In this instance, the sponsor has a waiting list of people trying to invest, but not only is the sponsor trying to get more customers, it's letting them "jump the line", and get in ahead of all these other investors who are on a waiting list. I'm glad it has sponsored this video, however I suggest that anyone thinking of investing check it out thoroughly. It probably is all on the up and up, but all investments are risks, and you should know what those risks are.
This channel low key Leftist leaning. Considering it is the Leftist policies that which has led to the recession I wouldn't trust any investment sponsor ads coming from them.
Carthaginian army mosty wasn't composed of actual mercenaries, but of combination of citizens (who were mostly used as heavy cavalry), subject levies and allias/vassals, mercenaries in proper sense did exist but were rare. Carthaginian Northern African subjects (Lybo-Phoenicians who were Punic and Lybians, whose elite was partially punicized) made core of their army (heavy infantry and heavy cavalry). These people came from areas that were under carthaginian rule, they had status of carthaginian subjects, paid taxes to carthage, were recruited, organized and equiped by the state. Many of thoese people became carthaginian half-citizens after Truceless war, since many cities in Northern Africa gained that status. Hamilcar moved many of them to Iberia where he would create semi-autonomous province, to which these people would de facto be citizens (although to Carthage they would still be half-citizens). Barcas gave land to these soldiers, and Hannibal in his speaches clearly says that he plans to give his soldiers land in Italy after he defeats Romans. There can be no way that these people are mercenaries, they were citizen army.
@@ryancrowell2658 Dexter Hoyos books primarly, also Adrian Goldsworthy. I suggest not taking informations about history from video games and youtube channels, they are very missleading, for the most part.
@@ivandicivan4189 the title of this video is a it misleading, but the content less so. They actually made it clear that mercenaries only made up a sizeable percentage of Carthage's armies, rather than the bulk, and even emphasized the role of its African allies and vassals more
Fantastic video, of the highest quality! Carthage is always a very understudied subject yet I sense there is a massive interest to learn more about this civilization. Please consider making more videos on Carthage...I certainly would watch!
“If one holds his state based on mercenaries, he will be neither secure nor peaceful; for they are divided, disloyal, ambitious and without discipline… have neither the fear of God nor are loyal to fellow men…” - Niccolo Machiavelli
I kept thinking this throughout the video. I think the Prince is fairly harsh in its criticisms vis-á-vis the mercenary's uses, however I think history has proven Machiavelli correct in that a core of professionally trained compatriots remain the superior system. It is a shame we have so few contemporaneous works from his era
Reconstructions, narration, informations are so good and demand a lot o work. I think Invicta and King and Generals are equals in content and the best ancient hitory makers on YT
A wonderful historical coverage about Carthaginian mercenaries military raising .thanks for sharing....foundations of strong economic power require width commercial (outer & internal) activities ...outer commercial expansion requires marine dominant...for that Carthaginian empires created its war fleets besides its commercial fleets...thanks (Invicta) channel ...for sharing
Aye with some ship combat to boot. Feel like ship combat could fit the game perfectly. Let's hope that Bannerlord popularity will soar. Still not a triple A game but there is so much potential. Wish For Honor and Bannerlord would get married and be set in Greek/Roman times. The Era after Alexander would be a nice start with a ton of different factions to choose from. From Carthage, Egypt, Rome, Greek, Germania/Dacian, and Parthia to name a few. Screw historic era add some Asian cultures into the mix too.
Is it me or does anyone else notice the similarities between the Carthaginians using mercenaries and the Byzantines using their mercenaries? Between the rise and fall of the Barca family with the rise and fall of the Phocas family? There's emery similarities. A 1000 years apart they both repeat the same cycle.
The sad thing is the way to read Carthage’s writing has been lost. Most of what we know about them comes from the Romans and Greeks. We have some of their writing but it can’t be translated. So we have nothing from Carthage’s perspective
Man an art sponsor in times like these? I love your channel but that was sketchy. A Gold/Silver sponsor would make much more sense during these bad economic times
@robo5013 yea I did after a while - but I perfer they go ahead and make their pitch I don't mind a commercial here and there it's how the market economy works. I get they got to make money. Just too long that one was.
Essentially Carthage were the Ferengi The Romans were "Romulans" The Celts - Klingons Macedonia/Greek City States - Federation Ancient Chinese - The Dominion
How did they make money at that time, like i know they ruled the waves but did they tax ships passing their waters , or did they export their surplus of goods , or if they even had a surplus of goods ,which goods .
I don't speak punic but I understood the word "rab mananet" it's proves the semitic culture and dialect of the Carthagian people..because I speak Arabic I could somewhat disifer🗃 the the language
Hey oakley, I really enjoy your videos and want to start making my own. I have a question, in the Jerusalem video you show a map with different units on its. Is that hand drawn or is it an app? If it is an app please tell me
Carthage is overrated. I used to love Carthage and certainly there is a mystique about a lost civilization that we don’t know much about. But it’s not hard to imagine what Carthage was really like. A gang of merchants and a small, entitled citizenry, enslaving and using peoples of the Mediterranean as cannon fodder without wanting to risk their own precious lives and never extending franchise to others. In a way Carthage was similar to what Rome eventually became. When Italians were refusing to fight and Roman armies were entirely composed of Germanic war bands.
Carthage was a naval power who used their citizens in navy, it the antiquity naval battles had much higher casualties than land ones. For example Carthage had large losses of their citizens in battles of First Punic war (just in one battle of cape Ecnomus they lost between 30-40000 men and still they kept rising new fleets). The idea of Carthage didn't risk losing its citizens is most likely Greco-Roman war propaganda, we have no records of carthaginians themselves, and historians tend to stress this over in any book about Carthage. They also used citizens in land engagements through most of their history , they had a period of rhoughly 100 years (out of 700 years of their existance) where subject levies would outnumber citizens grately but this only happened on Sicily, we don't know much about their wars in Africa and Iberia. This period ended with Truceless war when every male Carthaginian citizen was mobilized to fight rebels. Many of these citizen soldiers later went to Iberia with Hamilcar where they lied foundation of Barcid army in Iberia, which Hanibal would inherit. Most of large powers use their subjects and vassals as cannon fodder, this is universal. This whole narrative of carthaginians being rich assholes is based on their enemies war propaganda, if you search deeper into this you see that most of this ideas and narratives are wrong. Carthaginian economy was based on production much more than on trade etc.
Man, you gotta drop the masterworks ad. It's gonna go the way of established titles and others in a couple years. All their profit claims are based on cherry-picked datasets with extremely small sample sizes. Art is so "stable" because volume of sales is extremely low, and pieces that are truly proven to hold value are even rarer still. To combat this, masterworks has the internal market where you can offload shares onto other masterworks members. This creates an incentive for old members to enlist new members and pawn off their own shares of dubious value onto the new members. It may not technically be a ponzi scheme or illegal, but it's very close. Especially during "economic downturn", as you say yourself, it makes very little sense to invest in it.
Nah dude, in such markets, write option spreads, and bank the $$$. If you get crushed, do it again, works 90% of the time. Better than a one armed bandit.
Carthage should have expanded a little more they stayed on the coast basically and that's how or main reason Rome was able to beat them that and the fact they didn't have any strong allies passed thier borders thier geography made it easy to flank their territory and or surround them from the Sea and land
Not really they lost because in the first war they disbanded their fleet because they thought the war was over but rome used every single penny they had to win the war,occupying galaxies of useless sand is useless
People are struggling and great depression 2 electric boogaloo is just around the corner. Ah yes.... Invest in ART....BRUH please tell me you guys didn't write that segment....
TO BE PUTTING ONES NAME TO BACK AN INVESTMENT COMPANY IN SOMETHING SO SKETCHY AS "ART". I DONT KNOW. SKETCHY TO HAVE IT ADVERTISED HERE. A recession is coming, buy artworks.. sounds very fukn odd
So, we are shown a Carthaginian map with the names of every land they knew. It's admissible that we read them in Latin letters, to make it easier to understand. But, why did you decide to use the Greek names of lands which the Carthaginians gave the name we still use nowadays. You also mix Latin names, as Italia, with modern English names as Gaul and Sicily. You must scape from the 18th century French political propaganda : Spain was the whole peninsula when the Carthaginians and Romans existed and the whole peninsula was named so until the French Bourbon dinasty seized all the Spanish kingdoms. All of them except the kingdom of Portugal, which was on the Western coast of Spain. The Bourbon absolutist kings could not cope with their failure at invading Portugal and owning only the rest of Spain but insisted on calling Spain to the new kingdom they shaped as a copy of the French state after finishing with all the parliaments and laws the several Spanish kingdoms have had for perhaps half a thousand years. But the worst of all is that Greek "Iberia". Carthaginian ancestors, the Phoenicians, who spoke the same Semitic language, where the first who gave a name to the whole peninsula from Gibraltar to the Pyrenees 1,000 years BCE: Spania. A name which the Romans spelled as Hispania and in English is Spain. Just forget that new thing, the Bourbon centralism and write Spain or Hispania, a word 3,000 years old.
So sad ..the problem with carthage was not soldiers but poor leadership..their are expectations but in general no poor short sighted greedy arrogant men..don't make good quality decisions in war or strategy..
7:20 ALL THIS APPLIED TO THE dUTCH REPUBLIC IN 17TH cENTURY AS WELL: commercial..getting new markets...monopolies..once had a STRONG army , but turned into a mercenary army and keep dutch men rather in 'control'professions instead of standing army.. aiding one side against the other to GAIN wealth (denmark-sweden, Ottomans vs Spain, variety of competing sultans in indonesia, etc..).
...and then after the French -Dutch war which was much more devastating than erstwhile thought...king Willem and the WHOLE banking and investment system went from Amsterdam to London after the invited glorious revolution..and the whole business (literally) started on a grander scale..
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Sooo you basically want us to buy NFT that actually exist but are just as worthless?
Masterworks is not better than NFTs or Raid Shadow Legend or Bitcoin. Your fans will lose money, thanks to you. Hope you can sleep well.
I can't help but imagine mercenaries from Gaul arriving to Carthage only to find out that their war against a nearby African kingdom had already been over.
Or...you could invest in actual investment vehicles such as index funds, stocks, and bonds.
I gotta say I love your channel but only scum peddle weird art sponsorships with imaginary waiting lists while preying on people's financial worries and fomo.
Great topic! I always thought that this was a huge disadvantage that Carthage had in contrast to Rome. Though, apparently they did it because they found that there were economic advantages.
What would somebody have to pay you to march over the Alps into the greatest military power in the region and straight into a hoard of trained legionares?
A mad genius called Hannibal Barca, apperently.
Hannibal did exceptionally well to make his multi-ethnic mercenary army so cohesive and unified. You don't really hear of mass desertions from his army outside of the famously fickle Gauls and even they were trained to high discipline.
The fact that Hannibal made an army of 100% mercs cross the Alps, then cross the swamps of Central Italy on foot and come out of it without mutiny, desertion and winning a spectacular victory afterwards is a testament to his genius
not enough
@@literalantifaterrorist4673 based
I wish Carthage understood you can't just throw money at a problem sometimes.
Wish?
@@MuddieRain Yeah, it's a sort of a desire you want to come true. Hope that helps :)
The concept of Danegeld wasn't invented yet, so Carthage and Byzantium had to make those mistakes until their doom.
Russia still does that
The Mental Health crisis in the USA suffers from this problem as well, my mayor of my city threw hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars at the mental health care system and told them hey get better.
Yet money isn't the issue it's how they tell people to handle their emotions and trauma.
Mental Health Care Facilities here in my town won't even recommend parent-child therapy sessions if there are problems at home.
I appreciate how this video provides a detailed history of Carthage's military strategy and organization. It's fascinating to learn about the importance of economic stability in raising armies, and the impact of financial downturns on military strength. It's also interesting to see how Carthage evolved over time, from a small colony ruled by appointed governors to an oligarchic republic with a robust military force. The presentation of this history is engaging and informative. Though I found the segue to contemporary economic trends and the Masterworks sponsorship a bit jarring, I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn about Carthage and its military traditions. Thanks for sharing!
A Gaelic mercenary marine on a Carthagian war ship? Incredible! Can you imagine that man's life? The traveling he must of done, the wonders and stories he would bring back home?
Fantastic episode, thank you!
If he gets a chance to come back home...that is.
@@sushruttewari144 BIG if there. True true
You mean *Gallic. Big difference, but your point still stands.
@@sushruttewari144he clearly didn't 😅
That would be a good mini-series
Hell yeah new doc just dropped 🙌
I'm definitely excited to be doing more Carthage content as it has long fascinated me and is woefully undercovered.
You should do a video on games played by roman soldiers while on duty like ludus latrunculi or merels. As a security guard, i found it hilarious to know roman soldiers would often play a board game while on watch. It got to the point that even when they didnt have the access to a board they would carve one in the stone of wherever they were working. And to this day these game board carvings can be found all over the old world.
Roman General: Field your armies, Carthaginians, show us the might of your people
Carthaginian General: We are too RICH too fight our self.
That is why you shall be Roman slaves
Carthage wars in Sicily hurt the citizen soldiers and frankly scared them.
There is something kind of fishy with the sponsor of this, and many other, videos recently. Most of the time, advertisment is used to get customers. In this instance, the sponsor has a waiting list of people trying to invest, but not only is the sponsor trying to get more customers, it's letting them "jump the line", and get in ahead of all these other investors who are on a waiting list. I'm glad it has sponsored this video, however I suggest that anyone thinking of investing check it out thoroughly. It probably is all on the up and up, but all investments are risks, and you should know what those risks are.
This channel low key Leftist leaning. Considering it is the Leftist policies that which has led to the recession I wouldn't trust any investment sponsor ads coming from them.
Yep suckers fall for that form of advertising.
Carthaginian army mosty wasn't composed of actual mercenaries, but of combination of citizens (who were mostly used as heavy cavalry), subject levies and allias/vassals, mercenaries in proper sense did exist but were rare.
Carthaginian Northern African subjects (Lybo-Phoenicians who were Punic and Lybians, whose elite was partially punicized) made core of their army (heavy infantry and heavy cavalry). These people came from areas that were under carthaginian rule, they had status of carthaginian subjects, paid taxes to carthage, were recruited, organized and equiped by the state. Many of thoese people became carthaginian half-citizens after Truceless war, since many cities in Northern Africa gained that status.
Hamilcar moved many of them to Iberia where he would create semi-autonomous province, to which these people would de facto be citizens (although to Carthage they would still be half-citizens).
Barcas gave land to these soldiers, and Hannibal in his speaches clearly says that he plans to give his soldiers land in Italy after he defeats Romans. There can be no way that these people are mercenaries, they were citizen army.
This is interesting! Do you happen to know where to learn more about this?
@@ryancrowell2658 Dexter Hoyos books primarly, also Adrian Goldsworthy. I suggest not taking informations about history from video games and youtube channels, they are very missleading, for the most part.
@@ivandicivan4189 Ah, most of what we know comes from Roman sources, so it’s hard to get an accurate image. Thanks for sharing!
@@ivandicivan4189 the title of this video is a it misleading, but the content less so. They actually made it clear that mercenaries only made up a sizeable percentage of Carthage's armies, rather than the bulk, and even emphasized the role of its African allies and vassals more
Huge thanks for this valuable information about Carthaginian army ❤❤❤
Love your videos
Fantastic video, of the highest quality! Carthage is always a very understudied subject yet I sense there is a massive interest to learn more about this civilization. Please consider making more videos on Carthage...I certainly would watch!
“If one holds his state based on mercenaries, he will be neither secure nor peaceful; for they are divided, disloyal, ambitious and without discipline… have neither the fear of God nor are loyal to fellow men…”
- Niccolo Machiavelli
Still lasted for nearly 600 years.
Of course the person with the ukrainian flag quotes one of the biggest fools in history
Carthage: Skill Issue
I kept thinking this throughout the video. I think the Prince is fairly harsh in its criticisms vis-á-vis the mercenary's uses, however I think history has proven Machiavelli correct in that a core of professionally trained compatriots remain the superior system. It is a shame we have so few contemporaneous works from his era
You do realise his republican militia lost to a Medici/French mercenary force, right?
I’d love to read or watch an alternate history of Carthage winning the Punic wars. I’ve played it in Imperator Rome but I’d love a good story.
try rome II total war - divide at impera mod .
it´s awesome .
Outstanding. Thank you!
Wonderful stuff! This channel seems to get better each week.⚔🔥🙌
Carthage: Outsourcing on a massive scale before it was cool.
"Amators talk tactics, but professionals study logistics." 120% true. Love Carthage, hate Rome.
Ok but why hate Rome?
@@Progamermove_2003 are u serious
Reconstructions, narration, informations are so good and demand a lot o work. I think Invicta and King and Generals are equals in content and the best ancient hitory makers on YT
Roman "Auxilia", Carthaginian "Mercenaries".
American and Russian "PMC", Chinese "Fishing Militia"
A wonderful historical coverage about Carthaginian mercenaries military raising .thanks for sharing....foundations of strong economic power require width commercial (outer & internal) activities ...outer commercial expansion requires marine dominant...for that Carthaginian empires created its war fleets besides its commercial fleets...thanks (Invicta) channel ...for sharing
Still asking for the name of the song at 16:53 . This song appears in nearly every Invicta video yet is never mentioned in the credits 😢
We need a mount and blade game that takes place in ancient times
Aye with some ship combat to boot. Feel like ship combat could fit the game perfectly.
Let's hope that Bannerlord popularity will soar. Still not a triple A game but there is so much potential.
Wish For Honor and Bannerlord would get married and be set in Greek/Roman times. The Era after Alexander would be a nice start with a ton of different factions to choose from. From Carthage, Egypt, Rome, Greek, Germania/Dacian, and Parthia to name a few.
Screw historic era add some Asian cultures into the mix too.
Aren't they already in ancient time tho lol
@@fatumgermanicus1483 medieval
@Diana Pennepacker even the Bronze age would be perfect. So many historical texts talking about mercenaries from back then
You can try Rome 2
Another awesome and fascinating video, Invicta!
Is it me or does anyone else notice the similarities between the Carthaginians using mercenaries and the Byzantines using their mercenaries? Between the rise and fall of the Barca family with the rise and fall of the Phocas family? There's emery similarities. A 1000 years apart they both repeat the same cycle.
"The sinews of war are infinite money." --Marcus Tullius Cicero
Will you do more videos on ancient Egyptian military?
The sad thing is the way to read Carthage’s writing has been lost. Most of what we know about them comes from the Romans and Greeks. We have some of their writing but it can’t be translated. So we have nothing from Carthage’s perspective
Awesome video!
This was a very interesting and educational video thank you for sharing with us
Invicta rules in details. Excellent!!!
Well thought out, nice vid
Very interesting subject, love this channel.
Make us watch ads then a stupid sponsor ad right after? Dick move guys.
You'll live, cupcake
If you want to hire mercenaries, it helps if you can actually afford them.
That's where Carthage had the advantage.
@@Progamermove_2003 except for after the first punic war
Great Documentary 💯
This is the type of stuff i like.
Great content
Great video.
These are nice drawings. Whom should we give the credit of our admiration to?
Man an art sponsor in times like these? I love your channel but that was sketchy. A Gold/Silver sponsor would make much more sense during these bad economic times
That was fun! Carthage is interesting.
CIA:....how is this classified file known to the public? WHO SCREWED THIS UP?
What’s the difference between Tactics and Logistics?
Tactics is what’s done on the battlefield. Logistics is what makes the battle possible
Tactics are use on the battlefield and logistics where they provide they needed for the army/navy
The length of the opening advertisement was annoying.
skip it
@robo5013 yea I did after a while - but I perfer they go ahead and make their pitch I don't mind a commercial here and there it's how the market economy works. I get they got to make money. Just too long that one was.
Fun fact is that in Greece even today we call "misthos" μισθός our monthly wage !!!!😊
Essentially Carthage were the Ferengi
The Romans were "Romulans"
The Celts - Klingons
Macedonia/Greek City States - Federation
Ancient Chinese - The Dominion
The problem with mercenaries is that while they'll willingly fight for pay they will never die for pay.
Baal rubs his hands together...
Great video! Thanks and congrats for it! Carthage was a great Power. Prosperous and bright. But...there was a Rome in her way...
Video starts at 2:32
OMG !!! stop spinning Art" investments" ??? !! Great video subject.
How did they make money at that time, like i know they ruled the waves but did they tax ships passing their waters , or did they export their surplus of goods , or if they even had a surplus of goods ,which goods .
Hey guys. Don't forget to credit Paradox Interactive for the help / inspiration ;)
The british took note of Carthage's navy
If you can't solve your problems with money, you can solve your problems with a lot of money. Unless the problem is The Roman :)
I don't speak punic but I understood the word "rab mananet" it's proves the semitic culture and dialect of the Carthagian people..because I speak Arabic I could somewhat disifer🗃 the the language
Hey oakley, I really enjoy your videos and want to start making my own. I have a question, in the Jerusalem video you show a map with different units on its. Is that hand drawn or is it an app? If it is an app please tell me
Carthage is overrated.
I used to love Carthage and certainly there is a mystique about a lost civilization that we don’t know much about.
But it’s not hard to imagine what Carthage was really like. A gang of merchants and a small, entitled citizenry, enslaving and using peoples of the Mediterranean as cannon fodder without wanting to risk their own precious lives and never extending franchise to others.
In a way Carthage was similar to what Rome eventually became. When Italians were refusing to fight and Roman armies were entirely composed of Germanic war bands.
Carthage was a naval power who used their citizens in navy, it the antiquity naval battles had much higher casualties than land ones. For example Carthage had large losses of their citizens in battles of First Punic war (just in one battle of cape Ecnomus they lost between 30-40000 men and still they kept rising new fleets).
The idea of Carthage didn't risk losing its citizens is most likely Greco-Roman war propaganda, we have no records of carthaginians themselves, and historians tend to stress this over in any book about Carthage.
They also used citizens in land engagements through most of their history , they had a period of rhoughly 100 years (out of 700 years of their existance) where subject levies would outnumber citizens grately but this only happened on Sicily, we don't know much about their wars in Africa and Iberia. This period ended with Truceless war when every male Carthaginian citizen was mobilized to fight rebels. Many of these citizen soldiers later went to Iberia with Hamilcar where they lied foundation of Barcid army in Iberia, which Hanibal would inherit.
Most of large powers use their subjects and vassals as cannon fodder, this is universal.
This whole narrative of carthaginians being rich assholes is based on their enemies war propaganda, if you search deeper into this you see that most of this ideas and narratives are wrong. Carthaginian economy was based on production much more than on trade etc.
Ahh, there’s that silky beautiful voice.
Money buys time and loyalty
Man, you gotta drop the masterworks ad. It's gonna go the way of established titles and others in a couple years. All their profit claims are based on cherry-picked datasets with extremely small sample sizes. Art is so "stable" because volume of sales is extremely low, and pieces that are truly proven to hold value are even rarer still. To combat this, masterworks has the internal market where you can offload shares onto other masterworks members. This creates an incentive for old members to enlist new members and pawn off their own shares of dubious value onto the new members. It may not technically be a ponzi scheme or illegal, but it's very close. Especially during "economic downturn", as you say yourself, it makes very little sense to invest in it.
what happened to the old voice? : (
Did they recruite Creechan......archers?
How long did that last?
I wonder how their civilian population would have responded if Carthage imposed conscription during the 2nd Punic War
Reminds me of the Sea People.
Same ethnic origins: the Sea Peoples =the Phoenicians founded Tyre,who founded Carthage.👍
And our defense budget went up by $80 billion 😂😂😂
But how did the horses get off the ships?
Dew eet!
Yeeee baby
Nah dude, in such markets, write option spreads, and bank the $$$. If you get crushed, do it again, works 90% of the time. Better than a one armed bandit.
How did any society? Money from land or trade
Tyre to Carhage: Bruh you abandoned us when we are being sieged by Alexander the Great.
The connections had already been severed in an earlier siege of Tyre (probably by Babylonians or Persians)
Carthage should have expanded a little more they stayed on the coast basically and that's how or main reason Rome was able to beat them that and the fact they didn't have any strong allies passed thier borders thier geography made it easy to flank their territory and or surround them from the Sea and land
Not really they lost because in the first war they disbanded their fleet because they thought the war was over but rome used every single penny they had to win the war,occupying galaxies of useless sand is useless
@@titanicisshit1647 well that too many self inflicted reasons Carthage lost
@@bravocarlos1752 what i'm saying is that not owning huge swathes of useless rocks is not one of them
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Just buy mercs bro
(POV: You are an EU4 bankrupt player
Carthage? Only thing I know is that they got into the salt market at te end of their run...
Shame they sacrificed their kids to the gods
If you want something done right, You raise the legions yourself.
- Rome.
a huge thanks to the senate of Carthage for losing the fooking war!
Hannibal my son...
"Gold wins wars not soldiers"
Nomads have entered the chat
Genghis Khan: lol
Baby Killers.
Moneyyy 😂
Again; why refer to the whole iberian peninsula as "spain" instead of hispania? Since you call france by the time appropriate name of gaul
People are struggling and great depression 2 electric boogaloo is just around the corner.
Ah yes.... Invest in ART....BRUH please tell me you guys didn't write that segment....
The elephants we're almost useless.... Psychological warfare...
Archers and slingers were more useful....
It depends on how you use them. In India, elephants formed the core of many armies for centuries.
And that was not a good investment
It was for a time. But I don't think that even the Romans expected that they could recover from a disaster like Cannae.
GAUL = FRANCE
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TO BE PUTTING ONES NAME TO BACK AN INVESTMENT COMPANY IN SOMETHING SO SKETCHY AS "ART". I DONT KNOW. SKETCHY TO HAVE IT ADVERTISED HERE. A recession is coming, buy artworks.. sounds very fukn odd
So, we are shown a Carthaginian map with the names of every land they knew. It's admissible that we read them in Latin letters, to make it easier to understand. But, why did you decide to use the Greek names of lands which the Carthaginians gave the name we still use nowadays. You also mix Latin names, as Italia, with modern English names as Gaul and Sicily.
You must scape from the 18th century French political propaganda : Spain was the whole peninsula when the Carthaginians and Romans existed and the whole peninsula was named so until the French Bourbon dinasty seized all the Spanish kingdoms. All of them except the kingdom of Portugal, which was on the Western coast of Spain. The Bourbon absolutist kings could not cope with their failure at invading Portugal and owning only the rest of Spain but insisted on calling Spain to the new kingdom they shaped as a copy of the French state after finishing with all the parliaments and laws the several Spanish kingdoms have had for perhaps half a thousand years.
But the worst of all is that Greek "Iberia".
Carthaginian ancestors, the Phoenicians, who spoke the same Semitic language, where the first who gave a name to the whole peninsula from Gibraltar to the Pyrenees 1,000 years BCE: Spania. A name which the Romans spelled as Hispania and in English is Spain.
Just forget that new thing, the Bourbon centralism and write Spain or Hispania, a word 3,000 years old.
Whew that add for masterworks was cringe. Unsub good luck to ya
So sad ..the problem with carthage was not soldiers but poor leadership..their are expectations but in general no poor short sighted greedy arrogant men..don't make good quality decisions in war or strategy..
The problem of carthage was its Politicians
Numidians weren't black
Who said they are black.
@@ibrahimsuleiman8473 Westerners and Afro centrists
No wonder they lost to Rome
I lost sympathy for Cartage when finding out there actually Jewish. No wonder they were rich.
Phoenicians and Berbers weren't Jews and hated Jews.
@@Zakariya3603 exactly
No, they were pagans who worshiped multiple gods.
They were Semites, that means Jewish
You have to call your doctor dude.
7:20 ALL THIS APPLIED TO THE dUTCH REPUBLIC IN 17TH cENTURY AS WELL:
commercial..getting new markets...monopolies..once had a STRONG army , but turned into a mercenary army and keep dutch men rather in 'control'professions instead of standing army.. aiding one side against the other to GAIN wealth (denmark-sweden, Ottomans vs Spain, variety of competing sultans in indonesia, etc..).
...and then after the French -Dutch war which was much more devastating than erstwhile thought...king Willem and the WHOLE banking and investment system went from Amsterdam to London after the invited glorious revolution..and the whole business (literally) started on a grander scale..
Were the navy's rowers citizens?
Probability not, for there was always a risk of losing them in the storms.