Important note: you MUST engage the viewfinder pin with the lens aperture "fork". You visibly oversaw that step, totally disabling the exposure metering. You meter behaved as if you were at f22 all the time, regardless of your actual aperture.
I really appreciate the research and writing you put into each episode. it is so fun just watching a video and knowing so much more about new camera. Cheers!
@@japancamerahunter The devil on my shoulder, LOL. By the way, I ended up finding a GS645W in the end and it's been working out well. Like a gateway drug to medium format.
just picked up a pro tl a few weeks back with that 80 1.9...fun to shoot with. needs to send off the first few rolls. and the JCH street pan DOES fit if anyone was unsure ;-)
I have and love the 645 1000s, even though it's a heavy bugger. I thought about upgrading to the Super for the interchangeable backs, but I've been put off by reading numerous reports if the cheap plastic mirror stop failing/breaking, which appears to be unrepairable. To me, that's an Achilles heel and a deal breaker.
Andrew, I have the 1000s and the super, both great cameras. Regarding the cheap plastic piece, there's no stock available but I found a 3D printable design online so you can print your own. Check jaredlichtenbergerphoto's blog. Hope this can help you.
Good video...how the Eye Piece Magnifier..how this help .how work .. it's for any type of shoot or it's only for close up shooting.?..I want make sure before I buy one...Thank you for your future answer
I have the Pro with manual wind crank and waist level fiinder. it's super portable and lightweight in this configuration. You''ll be hard pushed to find a better 645 camera in my opinion. beautifully sharp lenses and lovely camera to shoot. getting more expensive to buy these days too. i have carried out several repairs on this model and documented it on my channel. One camera i would never sell. I'm taking it to the grave!
The all metal Sekor C 80 2.8 shown in the video is the very first 1974 model the was not great at 2.8 and 4. The 645 Super was launched in 1986 with the way better plastic Sekor C 80m2.8 N with a modified glass brand for one of the elements. This improvement gave for the N model at f:4 the same sharpness as the original model at 5.6 The much sharper Sekor C 80 mm is the f:4 Macro that is a beast. Even today I often use it on my digital Hasselblad X cameras.
Every 20 year old in Brooklyn NY thinks this with a roll of Portra is what normal people shot in the 80s and 90s. They don't realize normal people were on an Olympus Mju or a Nikon F at Disney World loaded with Kodak Gold 200...
Is the Prism lupe a big help for focusing? Can you frame with it? I just got system and I'm thinking nailing focus with the 80mm 1.9 will be one hell of a challenge..
Focusing with the prism finder with the 645 super was never a problem for me even with the Sekor 300mm 5.6. The 645 Super viewfinder is about 1 stop brighter than the 645 1000S (stopping down the super 1 stop gives the same viewfinder brightness than the 1000S at full aperture)
If you're coming from 35mm any form of medium format will be a step up. 6x4.5 is the smallest of the medium formats, however, it will still blow the rendition, resolution, and dynamic range of 35mm film out of the water.
no the super is totaly different from the older modells, the only parts that work on both are lenses and film inserts, but screens, prisms, drive, shutter are completely different. For example older M645's have vertical curtains with single coil control, the Super has horizontal curtains with double coil control
Anybody know who services these cameras? I’ve had terrible luck with my 645 super. The mirror rest/stopper broke. I bought I new body and the exact same thing happened again on my second body. Plz help!
There is an official Mamia Legacy Repair shop called Precision Camera Works, they're solid and honest. If you want true mamiya parts and service this is the place: www.precisioncameraworks.com/mamiya
This camera has one of the most reliable meetering systems I've ever used. (the same exists also for the RZ66) In Auto AS meetering mode, the camera compares in real time spot and average figures. Depending on the contrast ratio the meter chooses between 3 solutions. with a low contrast scene it chooses Average meetering and shows it in the viewfinder by lighting the A symbol with a medium contrast scene it computes a mean Average/Spot value and shows the A and S symbols in the viewfinder with a high contrast scene it chooses Spot meetering and shows S in the viewfinder Using it, you point the center of the viewfinder on the main subject, lock the meetering by pressing halfway the release button and recompose.
I can't tell you how much I've been enjoying these videos. Just the right tone always. And goodness gracious those red leafs!
Glad you like them!
Important note: you MUST engage the viewfinder pin with the lens aperture "fork". You visibly oversaw that step, totally disabling the exposure metering. You meter behaved as if you were at f22 all the time, regardless of your actual aperture.
I really appreciate the research and writing you put into each episode. it is so fun just watching a video and knowing so much more about new camera. Cheers!
Thank you!
Use to have one, it was broken most of the time, so brought it back to the shop. But when it worked it did very well.
I literally just picked up a 645 super kit and couldn’t be more excited about it. Great video as always!
That was a very very comprehensive review of the Mamiya 645! I have my analog photography vlog too! More power!
Hey we got to see some of Bellamy’s photography! Bonus. Nice work.
Thank you.
I have that exact same setup, down to the accessories and lens. Love it.
Thoroughly enjoyable and informative vid. The leaf colors are stunning. Also, looks like a nice Speedmaster on a strap.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video, thinking of getting one of these.
You should!
@@japancamerahunter The devil on my shoulder, LOL. By the way, I ended up finding a GS645W in the end and it's been working out well. Like a gateway drug to medium format.
Great video. I recently bought myself this camera and I am upgrading with the grip and eye viewfinder. 👍
Good choice!
just picked up a pro tl a few weeks back with that 80 1.9...fun to shoot with. needs to send off the first few rolls. and the JCH street pan DOES fit if anyone was unsure ;-)
Great video! Thanks for all the info.
Super video! Thanks! 👍
Thank you very much!
The best information is it can be repaired.. with camera pricing and age; that's a tremendous benefit.
Best value medium format camera. The only downside is it's weight/size (esp with the winder)
My first, and so far only, medium format camera🥰
Great system with better lenses that work on almost any digital with amazing results.
I miss Japan 🥲
Japan is scandalously pretty this time of year. dang
I have and love the 645 1000s, even though it's a heavy bugger. I thought about upgrading to the Super for the interchangeable backs, but I've been put off by reading numerous reports if the cheap plastic mirror stop failing/breaking, which appears to be unrepairable. To me, that's an Achilles heel and a deal breaker.
Andrew, I have the 1000s and the super, both great cameras. Regarding the cheap plastic piece, there's no stock available but I found a 3D printable design online so you can print your own. Check jaredlichtenbergerphoto's blog. Hope this can help you.
Hoping to pick one up in Japan in 2021. If covid allows...
Good video...how the Eye Piece Magnifier..how this help .how work .. it's for any type of shoot or it's only for close up shooting.?..I want make sure before I buy one...Thank you for your future answer
Bombastic review, thanks a lot.
Glad you liked it!
I have the Pro with manual wind crank and waist level fiinder. it's super portable and lightweight in this configuration. You''ll be hard pushed to find a better 645 camera in my opinion. beautifully sharp lenses and lovely camera to shoot. getting more expensive to buy these days too. i have carried out several repairs on this model and documented it on my channel. One camera i would never sell. I'm taking it to the grave!
Hello, is the old sekor 80mm 2.8 of the 645m compatible
with the 645 super body?
Love my Pro TL, basically a curvier Super. Only complaint is I keep accidently popping the back open like a moron
Can you do bronica etr etrs or etrsi
Is that a Kamerakraft grip I see there? Almost got one, but 200€ seems a bit steep.
It is. They are expensive but the quality is outstanding.
great video
Thanks!
Thank you for the video! What is the difference between the super and the pro?
The all metal Sekor C 80 2.8 shown in the video is the very first 1974 model the was not great at 2.8 and 4. The 645 Super was launched in 1986 with the way better plastic Sekor C 80m2.8 N with a modified glass brand for one of the elements. This improvement gave for the N model at f:4 the same sharpness as the original model at 5.6
The much sharper Sekor C 80 mm is the f:4 Macro that is a beast. Even today I often use it on my digital Hasselblad X cameras.
How do you compare this to camera and lens image quality to the Contax645 reviewed recently ?
Every 20 year old in Brooklyn NY thinks this with a roll of Portra is what normal people shot in the 80s and 90s. They don't realize normal people were on an Olympus Mju or a Nikon F at Disney World loaded with Kodak Gold 200...
I don’t know if you take requests, but how about a vid on the Pentax LX? Everyone overlooks it!
That is a good idea. Thanks
Is the Prism lupe a big help for focusing? Can you frame with it? I just got system and I'm thinking nailing focus with the 80mm 1.9 will be one hell of a challenge..
Focusing with the prism finder with the 645 super was never a problem for me even with the Sekor 300mm 5.6.
The 645 Super viewfinder is about 1 stop brighter than the 645 1000S (stopping down the super 1 stop gives the same viewfinder brightness than the 1000S at full aperture)
That winder sound, oh dear.
Tell me about it
A Speedmaster buddy!
Cheers
Curious to hear what you think of the 6x4.5 format. Is it not enough of a step up from 35mm resolution and better to go for 6x7?
If you're coming from 35mm any form of medium format will be a step up. 6x4.5 is the smallest of the medium formats, however, it will still blow the rendition, resolution, and dynamic range of 35mm film out of the water.
Will the parts from a mamiya pro 645 work on a mamiya super ? Trying to build one . Found a body only and now I’m having to find all the components
most of them will
no the super is totaly different from the older modells, the only parts that work on both are lenses and film inserts, but screens, prisms, drive, shutter are completely different.
For example older M645's have vertical curtains with single coil control, the Super has horizontal curtains with double coil control
The standard for the super is the 80N not the 80C min 2:18
yes and the N is optically better at full aperture (different glass brand on one element), I had both
Anybody know who services these cameras? I’ve had terrible luck with my 645 super. The mirror rest/stopper broke. I bought I new body and the exact same thing happened again on my second body. Plz help!
That's the big Achilles heel with this camera. I saw somewhere that someone had 3D printed a replacement, but if you lose the spring, you're screwed.
There is an official Mamia Legacy Repair shop called Precision Camera Works, they're solid and honest. If you want true mamiya parts and service this is the place: www.precisioncameraworks.com/mamiya
This camera has one of the most reliable meetering systems I've ever used. (the same exists also for the RZ66)
In Auto AS meetering mode, the camera compares in real time spot and average figures. Depending on the contrast ratio the meter chooses between 3 solutions.
with a low contrast scene it chooses Average meetering and shows it in the viewfinder by lighting the A symbol
with a medium contrast scene it computes a mean Average/Spot value and shows the A and S symbols in the viewfinder
with a high contrast scene it chooses Spot meetering and shows S in the viewfinder
Using it, you point the center of the viewfinder on the main subject, lock the meetering by pressing halfway the release button and recompose.
Does it have a panoramic adapter?
Thought only the bronica etrsi has it. Was trying to find it for ages.
@@ikutoski Not really, as the 135 film back is only for full frame 24×36mm format...
no it doesn't, the 135 back I own is 24x36, it has also a Polaroid back I used a lot in studio
No possibility to fit a digital back with full compatibility in this camera
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Really? That's awful. Where?
Japan Camera Hunter 💀💀💀
Lmaooooo
that dented ring is terrible on that lens , but i love the sound of that camera
yeah it is a bit of a shocker. But it is my camera, so I guess it doesn't matter that much.
much better noise than the M645 1000S winder I had before
Inexpensive? They’re 800-1000 usd on eBay. Very few Medium Format cameras command that
They have seemed to triple in price over the last year. I almost regret selling mine last year with winder, Ae prism, 5 lens and 5 film backs for $700
Very few? I would say most decent medium format are much more expensive. You get a lot of camera for your money.
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