Balatro University is actually cracked out of his mind tho. He did a 100 win streak in the beta and recently did a back to back win streak with every single deck
Amazing run my boy. I think what that chatter was trying to say at the end was to change the order of your blueprint to copy the king. With the red seal it goes like this: Copying mime would be: (1.5*1.5)^4 = 25.62 whereas Copying Baron is: (1.5*1.5*1.5)^3 = 38.44. WITHOUT a red seal is: Copying mime: (1.5*1.5)^3 = 11.39 and copying Baron is: (1.5*1.5*1.5)^2 = 11.39. SO... to wrap up, WITH a red seal, it's better to copy baron, and without a red seal, it makes no difference which one you copy. So, you shoulda copied baron with blueprint. Womp womp, still an amazing run, hope you feel better.
Read some other comments about what the Blueprint could have been on, and I heard about a Balatro calculator earlier today, so I threw the hand at 58:54 in there. Said calculator says Blueprint on Baron is 1.1318e19, as opposed to 4.4164e17 when Blueprint is on Mime; you get three procs three times (once + seal + mime), i.e. nine, instead of two procs four times (once + seal + mime + bluep), i.e. eight. It's counterintuitive, because x4 sounds better than x3 without further context. I was confused, looking at the breakdown tab! So I think this means Frost could have been top two if Blueprint was on Baron. Maaaaaan! Oh well, part of being good at Balatro is noticing/thinking of these things... Very well played, regardless!
You could've avoided the spoiler about how this ends in your message you know, it was really just, ABSOLUTELY useless to your point and ruined the surprise. Or at least put a fucking spoiler warning, but NOT putting it in was better.
@@Caleb_Denin Maybe just dont click read more? he gave the same idea in the top lines, middle line with just dash so it goes to read more, and if you dont know to not click "read more" on a video you dont want spoiled, idrk what to tell you
@@Caleb_Denindude wtf don't spoil a spoiled message about spoiling things. Geez you people are the worst and should stay out of comments so that way you can't spoil the spoils. Just do what a normal person does es and watch video first then go to comments of you want.
first of all, this is just a silly little game of playing card and seeing big numbers, the run was really cool, and the video was very fun, thank you frosty-p-chan. Anyways, with mime, baron and steel kings i think the thinking process should be like this: -you have skills and triggers; -2 skills, with baron and steel; -2 triggers with base card and mime. so you end up with a total of 4 procs, from 2 skills times 2 triggers. When it comes to adding more you want to balance them out to maximize the ammount of procs. So, if you have 1 copy (blueprint) and red seal kings, you'll have: -2 skills, only baron and steel; -3 triggers, we gained one from red seals; -1 of either, since blueprint can copy either baron or mime. Thus, if you copy mime you'll have 4 triggers and 2 skills, resulting in 8 procs. If you copy baron you get 3 skills and 3 triggers, resulting in 9 procs. So yeah, copying baron was better, unless i'm mistaken about something, lmk if you think i am. Either way, that's really convoluted and annoying to think about, so whatever. If you read all of this, get fucked -5 minutes LMAO.
One thing that really surprised me watching this run was how often Frost refused to use Hanged Man on trash number cards when he was opening a tarot booster pack. I'd thought that when your strategy relies entirely on a couple of cards, you really want to get rid of the rest to be consistent.
Something I learned just recently about Madness: 1: it cannot eat eternal cards (obviously) 2: it still scales from the attempt, even if no joker is consumed. And now it just thought: 2 eternal madness.
@@kazboven9744 I think it's like: 4 triggers of 1.5 for the mime (4 trigs of 1.5mult) as opposed to 6 of 1.5 with the baron (3 trigs of 1.5mult and 1.5mult). Since multiplication order doesn't matter, it is just more 1.5's total. Even if he didn't have red seals it still works out that the baron is better (3 vs 4)
@@EvanOrDevan55 red seal does not matter but it looks the same amount of triggers trigger per king of because it nornal what frost is is 2 trigers (steel plus baron) +2 +2 (because of mime and blueprint)or its 3 +3 (becausr they only get played one extra time so in my calc it shoukd nkt mayter
@@kazboven9744 With Mime copied, Each card goes off 4 times (original + 2 mime retriggers + red seal) and activates Steel and Baron once each time, which is 1.5^8. With Baron copied, Each card goes off 3 times (original + 1 mime retrigger + red seal), and activates Steel once and Baron twice, which is 1.5^9.
blueprint was better on baron as soon as you had more red seal steel kings in hand because mime isnt multiplicative, it's additive to the red seal similar to sock and buskin.
frost i am an avarege dude. i consider myself lucky to have found your channel THATS how great your content is (btw i am a slay the spire viewer converted to balatro)
i am in no mood to crunch numbers but it seems like making blueprint copy the baron would've been like a 60% improvement on each x mult and that would add up quick, you could've had 18 i think. nevertheless dope af run
Bp is better on baron when you only have 1 copy of baron AND the kings are red sealed. Since it’s 2 baron triggers each time the hand is played you’re looking at 2(king)+2(redseal)+2(mime) vs 1(king)+1(redseal)+2(mime+bp). Unfortunately he lost out on a ton of points. Idk how close he was to moving on or how it ended but it was a misplay
Bruuuuuuh, chat is so dumb, they convinced frost that Blueprint Mime was better than Blueprint Baron. Oh well, still a fantastic run and great content. GG, watching you in the tourney was a blast!
*Frost prime? This man is named THROW prime.* When he sold that 4x joker I YELLED and I was already furious. I hope to God he lost horribly because if he wins after lucking into a DNA I'm gunna flip
nah, selling that dna for the steel joker was the wrong play look at it this way: the DNA was scaling points harder per round than the steel could ever hope to; those duped kings were producing (with the already mentioned less efficient joker layout) a 1.5^8 multiplier, which is a 25.6 multiplier (mime on baron would be a x38 multiplier!), whereas the steel joker was only producing ~x10 shame no one caught that one while he was ready to sell; people have to recognize on a run like this the DNA card is in fact a HUGE chip generator
You could have got 1.13e19 if you blueprint baron last hand, but awesome effort nonetheless! But yeah baron is 1.5x more mult per held red seal steel king (1.5^(3x3) vs 1.5^(2x4)) so with 8 red seal kings that is 1.5^8 more mult which is 25x bigger which woulda taken you just over the e19 threshold
Balatro University is actually cracked out of his mind tho. He did a 100 win streak in the beta and recently did a back to back win streak with every single deck
Was a blast competing against you dude! Hope you feel better!
God gamer detected!!!!
I'm still shocked i made it out of the first round lol@@thecrazydude4026
Amazing run my boy. I think what that chatter was trying to say at the end was to change the order of your blueprint to copy the king. With the red seal it goes like this: Copying mime would be: (1.5*1.5)^4 = 25.62 whereas Copying Baron is: (1.5*1.5*1.5)^3 = 38.44. WITHOUT a red seal is: Copying mime: (1.5*1.5)^3 = 11.39 and copying Baron is: (1.5*1.5*1.5)^2 = 11.39. SO... to wrap up, WITH a red seal, it's better to copy baron, and without a red seal, it makes no difference which one you copy. So, you shoulda copied baron with blueprint. Womp womp, still an amazing run, hope you feel better.
Goated comment, someone's gotta do it
Now figure out how it would have affected the score i’d love to see it
@wtfuntime frost was copying baron the whole time so he was still getting his theoretically maximum mult.
@@cupcakewithatophat1131 he was copying mime
@@bionicfetus3210the easy way to remeber it is that if you have 1 baron you bp baron if you have 2 baron you bp mime
Read some other comments about what the Blueprint could have been on, and I heard about a Balatro calculator earlier today, so I threw the hand at 58:54 in there. Said calculator says Blueprint on Baron is 1.1318e19, as opposed to 4.4164e17 when Blueprint is on Mime; you get three procs three times (once + seal + mime), i.e. nine, instead of two procs four times (once + seal + mime + bluep), i.e. eight. It's counterintuitive, because x4 sounds better than x3 without further context. I was confused, looking at the breakdown tab!
So I think this means Frost could have been top two if Blueprint was on Baron. Maaaaaan! Oh well, part of being good at Balatro is noticing/thinking of these things... Very well played, regardless!
You could've avoided the spoiler about how this ends in your message you know, it was really just, ABSOLUTELY useless to your point and ruined the surprise.
Or at least put a fucking spoiler warning, but NOT putting it in was better.
@@Caleb_Denin Maybe just dont click read more? he gave the same idea in the top lines, middle line with just dash so it goes to read more, and if you dont know to not click "read more" on a video you dont want spoiled, idrk what to tell you
@@Caleb_Denin I will never understand people complaining about "spoilers" in comment sections. the comment sections are to talk about the video
@@Caleb_Denindude wtf don't spoil a spoiled message about spoiling things. Geez you people are the worst and should stay out of comments so that way you can't spoil the spoils. Just do what a normal person does es and watch video first then go to comments of you want.
first of all, this is just a silly little game of playing card and seeing big numbers, the run was really cool, and the video was very fun, thank you frosty-p-chan.
Anyways, with mime, baron and steel kings i think the thinking process should be like this:
-you have skills and triggers;
-2 skills, with baron and steel;
-2 triggers with base card and mime.
so you end up with a total of 4 procs, from 2 skills times 2 triggers.
When it comes to adding more you want to balance them out to maximize the ammount of procs.
So, if you have 1 copy (blueprint) and red seal kings, you'll have:
-2 skills, only baron and steel;
-3 triggers, we gained one from red seals;
-1 of either, since blueprint can copy either baron or mime.
Thus, if you copy mime you'll have 4 triggers and 2 skills, resulting in 8 procs.
If you copy baron you get 3 skills and 3 triggers, resulting in 9 procs.
So yeah, copying baron was better, unless i'm mistaken about something, lmk if you think i am.
Either way, that's really convoluted and annoying to think about, so whatever.
If you read all of this, get fucked -5 minutes LMAO.
7:30 i just see a dude in a suit at a poker table stacking naninf chips on top of eachother lmao
Feel better soon guy, August too.
One thing that really surprised me watching this run was how often Frost refused to use Hanged Man on trash number cards when he was opening a tarot booster pack. I'd thought that when your strategy relies entirely on a couple of cards, you really want to get rid of the rest to be consistent.
Most useful redcard ever seen
Something I learned just recently about Madness:
1: it cannot eat eternal cards (obviously)
2: it still scales from the attempt, even if no joker is consumed.
And now it just thought: 2 eternal madness.
And enternal blueprint 😳
there's a seed out there where you start with three eternal madness jokers, it does get pretty loopy
look it up, lol
Balatro be ballin, feel better soon, boss!
If you played blueprint baron instead of mime the score would be 1e19 instead of 4e17
Why you would have one less trigger of steel for more trigger of kings
@@kazboven9744 I think it's like: 4 triggers of 1.5 for the mime (4 trigs of 1.5mult) as opposed to 6 of 1.5 with the baron (3 trigs of 1.5mult and 1.5mult). Since multiplication order doesn't matter, it is just more 1.5's total. Even if he didn't have red seals it still works out that the baron is better (3 vs 4)
@@EvanOrDevan55 red seal does not matter but it looks the same amount of triggers trigger per king of because it nornal what frost is is 2 trigers (steel plus baron) +2 +2 (because of mime and blueprint)or its 3 +3 (becausr they only get played one extra time so in my calc it shoukd nkt mayter
@@kazboven9744 With Mime copied, Each card goes off 4 times (original + 2 mime retriggers + red seal) and activates Steel and Baron once each time, which is 1.5^8.
With Baron copied, Each card goes off 3 times (original + 1 mime retrigger + red seal), and activates Steel once and Baron twice, which is 1.5^9.
@@newbeans-ob1bj yea your right its an extra trigger of 1.5x per king
Got to watch the tournament on twitch! Commenting for the algorithm! Keep it up frost!
blueprint was better on baron as soon as you had more red seal steel kings in hand because mime isnt multiplicative, it's additive to the red seal similar to sock and buskin.
Sick frost sounds exhausted :(
Smash
What a friggin run my guy, well done!
frost i am an avarege dude. i consider myself lucky to have found your channel THATS how great your content is (btw i am a slay the spire viewer converted to balatro)
Fantastic run. If there were any optimizations that could've been made I didn't see them. Hope you and August recover quickly!
Much love, Frost! Get well soon! 💙
Honestly I’m proud of balatro university for being clickbait in the thumbnail, I love his stuff
Well done frost! Super fun to watch, you are electrifying in competitions. And hey, 3rd place is pretty good! You are a certified balatro baller
Red Card o7
"Careful now, she's a hero"
It's always good to see my sickly friend. And as always, Balatro do be ballin my guy.
Covid fuckin sucks man I hope you two start feeling better soon. Balatro be ballin
5:26 wrong joker pop up, mr editor
Hope U feel better soon man. I've never had Covid but my sister had it like 3 times and it doesn't seem fun. Much love :3
Going back an ante is so strong in this game if you already have a hand booster, it's like being able to refight act 1 bosses in Peglin.
This was insane live. Thanks for the content mr. Streamer
After watching this video I can say that Balatro indeed do be ballin
Dat 593 of asking frost to play chess
You did really well in this looking forward to see if you do any other tournaments
My man is a trooper
43:36 I didn't expect to get fucking murdered in this video... 😂
GGs dude what a great run :D
i am in no mood to crunch numbers but it seems like making blueprint copy the baron would've been like a 60% improvement on each x mult and that would add up quick, you could've had 18 i think. nevertheless dope af run
Bp is better on baron when you only have 1 copy of baron AND the kings are red sealed. Since it’s 2 baron triggers each time the hand is played you’re looking at 2(king)+2(redseal)+2(mime) vs 1(king)+1(redseal)+2(mime+bp). Unfortunately he lost out on a ton of points. Idk how close he was to moving on or how it ended but it was a misplay
@@russellD-wj5ii i think he needed to hit e18 so this would've saved the run
The amount of times we took/kept Chariot when we had fewer non-Steel Kings in deck than we had non-king cards in deck is... questionable.
Get well soon frost, chat can’t slay you if covid does 🥹
Well played! Get well soon
Bruuuuuuh, chat is so dumb, they convinced frost that Blueprint Mime was better than Blueprint Baron. Oh well, still a fantastic run and great content. GG, watching you in the tourney was a blast!
Frost fuckin ballin
3rd is still super impressive, and it was an awesome run!
I'm like 90% sure i had covid like 2 years ago that shit sucked get well soon frost.
Wait til frost learns the madness joker doesn't need to kill a joker to gain mult 😅
crazy run!
Balatro be ballin
i was here
Love seeing you all sick... makes me want to take care of you 😘
BALATRO be ballin
Balatro be ballin
B-B-B-BALLIN’
*Frost prime? This man is named THROW prime.* When he sold that 4x joker I YELLED and I was already furious. I hope to God he lost horribly because if he wins after lucking into a DNA I'm gunna flip
Does he know about boosting high cars with Barron?
nah, selling that dna for the steel joker was the wrong play
look at it this way: the DNA was scaling points harder per round than the steel could ever hope to; those duped kings were producing (with the already mentioned less efficient joker layout) a 1.5^8 multiplier, which is a 25.6 multiplier (mime on baron would be a x38 multiplier!), whereas the steel joker was only producing ~x10
shame no one caught that one while he was ready to sell; people have to recognize on a run like this the DNA card is in fact a HUGE chip generator
God thought his balatro skills were to good so he had to nerf prime
I can't believe Balatro University would message you on Discord to tell you that you "stand no chance". This is going to start a huge drama.
You could have got 1.13e19 if you blueprint baron last hand, but awesome effort nonetheless! But yeah baron is 1.5x more mult per held red seal steel king (1.5^(3x3) vs 1.5^(2x4)) so with 8 red seal kings that is 1.5^8 more mult which is 25x bigger which woulda taken you just over the e19 threshold
Someone beat me to it already XD
Duplicating mime instead of baron made me sad
why is chat so dumb…
I wanna see what the winners were packing
This is a comment. its early. merry christmas
I thought I was good at this game until I watched this video.
It’s a seeded run, so they know that they’re probably going to find something crazy, just keep playing! You’ll get better and keep having fun
WHAT THE F WAS EVEN ALL OF THIS
i have only 50+ hours, i feel like im so long from getting this kind of build going ^^
he is sick he can't ball like that !
I don't understand why he never use those tarot cards
With the red seals blueprint on baron was better...
blow your nose constantly, take vitamin D. as long as you rest ur good.
I think if you restarted at like ante 6 you couldve gotten it
He just needed to move his blueprint to copy baron. But it’s a learning experience for next time
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