You guys are resilient and your patience tested. I wouldn’t have any hair left if I had to go through this. You have handled and documented this respectfully and professionally. After going through this ordeal, the silver lining that I find is that you now know every nook and cranny of your boat and the all lessons learned. Thank you for documenting and sharing your experiences. All the best in your future sailings.
I've spent the last two years looking for a retirement option to float around on..... Watching your videos has made a significant impact on my purchasing choices... Thank you so much and I'm so sorry for what you have been through
We really appreciate the comment. It makes us think doing what's right potentially helped some people in really significant ways. I hope I have shed enough tears for multiple people now.
You guys are incredible- wife and I followed this whole time and were amazed by the drive. You deserve the relaxing cruising you guys planned. Much love from NZ. Leopard firmly off our shopping list there are a lot of options. We’d buy yours though it’s built proof 👍
Thank you so much for this video. My wife and I have been looking for a yacht for our weaning years. Like many of your viewers' comments, your video helped us with our purchasing decision. I am genuinely sorry for all the headaches you have suffered. However, I paraphrase your comment, "...you believed it was the boat builder's responsibility to build a "quality" boat." What a novel idea.😀 Best of luck with your "headache," again, thank you for sharing.😃
Was looking at buying a Leopard, have watched most of these videos now. Leopard could not pay me to take a catamaran from them after learning how they have screwed you over. Not the first instance Ive come across with this brand.. This info is so helpful and important for people to understand, so thanks.. All the best
I try to see the light in everyone & while Leopard has shown some generosity, theres a voice inside me that says maybe they were trying to play nice to keep u quiet... I pray its not true and they make you whole 💗U all deserve some light and joy - lets see u sailing soon! 💫
It flew straight over your head my friend ! If you've owned even the smallest boat you would know what it cost, this is a pay to play life style, you are thinking victim ! life has a lot to learn dig deeper >>>>
You are being very generous imo. While someone at the manufacturing company was attempting to show good will, which is not unappreciated, they have still failed to make you whole.
Being on the older side, I need to buy a sailboat that 'sails' and not sit in a boatyard. To spend years on the hard would have broken my spirit and any desire to travel by sail. Glad it has not dampened your desires.
Reading some of these comments makes me fighting mad! This world has some deranged tenants. Frankly, the three of you have handled this far and away better than anyone should expect. Keep fighting the good fight! 💪
Warranties are not worth the paper they written on. They have you over a barrel and just throw bullshit time and piss poor contractors. My dad had the same problem with an Australian made RV. In the end because of leaks in every single penetration he sold it back to the company because after multiple attempts to fix it still leaked. Tens of thousands of dollar lost selling it back he was happy to see it gone.
Unbelievable. Years of hard and dirty work and serious money up in the air. You trusted a big and powerful company based in South Africa. Why? Was it the charm of Cape Town?
I trusted the past reputation, I didn't know they were up for sale or I wouldn't have gone near them. I know and are friends with a lot of great South Africans so figured I'd collect a nice new boat and enjoy a holiday and tour around.
After watching your and other videos regarding Leopard Boats, why would anyone think of spending hard earned money buying one of these shoddy Catamarans?
Your experience is beyond kak. We’re going to travel to Greece next month to inspect a Leopard 53 PC. I hope the marine surveyor is experienced enough to identify major underlying issues that may be hiding under the shiny gel coat
So how many days have you had the boat? How many days has it actually been on the water? Why did you not get given a new boat instead of all this that you have had to go through? Would you buy this boat again or would you go to another boat builder? How do you actually feel about leopard boats? All of you have had to do SO SO SO MUCH hard work rectifying these problems. Instead of enjoying the boat and travelling the world. I really am sorry for what you have had to go through to get your home safe back where it belongs on the water!!! Yet you still have an incredible amount of work to do!!!
They only began to assist and negotiate ex Cape Town after TH-cam uploads. They won't provide a new boat without a contract and without answers for many other important factors. Now I have experienced certain things I would not want another boat to start again on anyway.
If you do a final cost vs reimbursement video and settlement, use a spreadsheet to make easier for people to visually see. I’m assuming you are getting more than 28K worth of good will. Obviously this is going to cost you more money than the settlement will be.
There is currently no settlement negotiation or interest I can see from their side going beyond what is stated in this video and cleaning up their mess.
I can only commend you all on your patience this story could not be conceived in the worst nightmare. Leopard after producing a piece of SH should run for the hills but this is not the case. Are all Leopard cats this bad or did you select a bag of lemons. Are these boats not constructed to some standards like A Lloyd's spec.. I could not get my head around the use of Carbon on the Bow hope it was free but it has limited use in certain applications. GO AND ENJOY YOU HAVE EARNED IT
We sailed round the world on a leopard and were so stoked with the quality of finish and construction. Mind you I did hear they stopped delivering them on their own bellies. Mine was delivered from SA to Turkey under its own sail not on a ship... These guys have had some really bad experiences. Mind you I also loved Chagaramus in Trinidad, especially the doubles from the street vendors out the front and all the amazing walks on the Trini coast and surrounding islands... Don't write off Leopard on a single experience read around.
Leopard management have dropped the ball. This may have been a rare lemon in the fleet but total cost of labour/ materials/ reputation damage would have way outweighed buying the boat back and put it into a charter fleet.
It sounds like u would have been better buying a used boat an refitted it man can't believe a new company would give this mu problem's srry for the troubles captains...fair winds n safe travels
I will never by a Leopard because of the qualities defect and that they are not assuming there responsibilities. you have to be paid as minimum for all your expenses: material, time, insurance,..
Sorry for what happened to you all. For the money you guys spent up till now, you could've probably bought a cheap residence in Trinidad and get a smaller boat, then cruise the caribbean 🤷♂️
Hum so you speak for all is my first thought. Secondly you cared enough to tell all you know what everyone thinks. Wow what education you have you deserve a refund but who care that you are what you are. Your first name begins with a a ? Last name ends with a r as you think all should agree with you. Got it.
@@lifeliver9000 yes but you didn’t speak for me I really don’t care about how you feel also. But don’t speak for me I am an alpha male. That smart enough not to speak for others. Got it you think you speak for all. Like your little buddy. I don’t have buddy’s also. Stay with the group hug. Me and my friends will laugh at you buddy people not interested in a butty.
Your Leopard will never be a - safe - blue water crossing boat. It's designed to be a coastal cruiser and if that's all you ever do with it it's perfectly safe when fixed. Every crossing will be a roll of the dice. If you want to a blue water crossing boat you have to buy one. They aren't cheap or fast but they are safe.
@@travelsketchthousands of Leopards have crossed oceans and demonstrated they are blue water capable. Please list the Leopards that have been lost at sea due to the hulls failing. Well it's going to be a very short list as in probably zero so.....
Everyone can have an opinion even when it's completely ridiculous. All those coastal Leopards we've seen around the world have been carefully delivered by ship to get there😅😅.
So you expect Trent, Tynan, and Telicia to just bend over and take it quietly. They've spent 636 days of their youth on the hard trying to get a new Leopard repaired to sail. Crawl back into your hole.
Why am I the client from hell? List reasons. Imagine being told a boat was going to be on TH-cam at POS and still serving this one up. Imagine sending a warranty replacement table to a boat with blisters and the table is covered in blisters. What adjective would you apply? 🤡
You guys are resilient and your patience tested. I wouldn’t have any hair left if I had to go through this. You have handled and documented this respectfully and professionally. After going through this ordeal, the silver lining that I find is that you now know every nook and cranny of your boat and the all lessons learned. Thank you for documenting and sharing your experiences. All the best in your future sailings.
I've spent the last two years looking for a retirement option to float around on..... Watching your videos has made a significant impact on my purchasing choices... Thank you so much and I'm so sorry for what you have been through
We really appreciate the comment. It makes us think doing what's right potentially helped some people in really significant ways. I hope I have shed enough tears for multiple people now.
@travelsketch You have handled it with style and grace from what your videos show... I know I couldn't have done what you have
Thank you for a detailed update.
You are both amazing people❤
Thank you
You guys are incredible- wife and I followed this whole time and were amazed by the drive. You deserve the relaxing cruising you guys planned. Much love from NZ. Leopard firmly off our shopping list there are a lot of options. We’d buy yours though it’s built proof 👍
Thanks for the support
Please let them know so they do something to actually make us right for the suffering. Leaving us like this does nobody any good.
Thank you so much for this video. My wife and I have been looking for a yacht for our weaning years. Like many of your viewers' comments, your video helped us with our purchasing decision. I am genuinely sorry for all the headaches you have suffered. However, I paraphrase your comment, "...you believed it was the boat builder's responsibility to build a "quality" boat." What a novel idea.😀 Best of luck with your "headache," again, thank you for sharing.😃
Thank you for the comment and support.
my advice after a lifetime building alu yachts, buy a mono multi chine and leave the topsides unpainted
Was looking at buying a Leopard, have watched most of these videos now.
Leopard could not pay me to take a catamaran from them after learning how they have screwed you over.
Not the first instance Ive come across with this brand..
This info is so helpful and important for people to understand, so thanks..
All the best
Thank you for commenting. Had we seen similar Trent would not have risked the purchase either so hopefully good comes of it.
O M G! Your nightmare experience should be viewed by anyone considering Any Leopard product! Thank you for sharing this journey!
Thank you for the comment and support it helps.
I try to see the light in everyone & while Leopard has shown some generosity, theres a voice inside me that says maybe they were trying to play nice to keep u quiet... I pray its not true and they make you whole 💗U all deserve some light and joy - lets see u sailing soon! 💫
I totally agree with you.
Thanks for watching each week and supporting :) hopefully they are planning on negotiating with Trent so this chapter of our lives can close.
I'm amazed you were financially able to survive this. Happy for you that it is almost over.
It flew straight over your head my friend ! If you've owned even the smallest boat you would know what it cost, this is a pay to play life style, you are thinking victim ! life has a lot to learn dig deeper >>>>
Trent is extremely disappointed at the financial cost and cost to our lives and health. He is considering next steps.
@@travelsketch very disingenuous of you, to hide my comment, all that glitters is not gold, you will soon learn that !
Happy for you all that this saga is finally near the end.
Thank you for the comment and support. :)
You are being very generous imo. While someone at the manufacturing company was attempting to show good will, which is not unappreciated, they have still failed to make you whole.
It is in the interest of being transparent. Accepting gifts and not disclosing them while discussing negatives is not fair.
Being on the older side, I need to buy a sailboat that 'sails' and not sit in a boatyard. To spend years on the hard would have broken my spirit and any desire to travel by sail. Glad it has not dampened your desires.
I'm not in a good headspace. Deciding what to do next. This has not come with significant toll on our lives.
Well Trent is not in a good headspace as he deals with them on the whole so has taken the biggest toll.
Reading some of these comments makes me fighting mad! This world has some deranged tenants.
Frankly, the three of you have handled this far and away better than anyone should expect.
Keep fighting the good fight! 💪
Thanks for your support every week, we appreciate it :)
After watching your videos, I won't be purchasing a Leopard! What a nightmare!
Thanks for the comment and support.
Well explained in the circonstances. So sorry 😢
We are doing our best under horrible circumstances and time constraints, thanks for commenting :)
After all your problems I can't believe anyone would buy a leopard.😮
I wouldn't until I saw them make this right.
unbelievable - truly astonishing. a PR disaster for Leopard and a headache for you! Hopefully a headache that will soon be alleviated :)
I agree, thanks for the comment and support. It would be better for everyone if they do something meaningful sooner rather than later.
Warranties are not worth the paper they written on. They have you over a barrel and just throw bullshit time and piss poor contractors. My dad had the same problem with an Australian made RV. In the end because of leaks in every single penetration he sold it back to the company because after multiple attempts to fix it still leaked. Tens of thousands of dollar lost selling it back he was happy to see it gone.
Thanks for the comment and support.
You should open at the next big boat show an stand beside Leopard ……
After what we have been put through I don't much care what Teesh uploads now. Imagine what isn't online. What kept them paying the bills.
They aren't worth it and their shipbuilder is the biggest problem IMO. They hide behind Travelopia.
Thanks for watching, commenting and supporting each week.
Unbelievable. Years of hard and dirty work and serious money up in the air.
You trusted a big and powerful company based in South Africa. Why? Was it the charm of Cape Town?
I trusted the past reputation, I didn't know they were up for sale or I wouldn't have gone near them. I know and are friends with a lot of great South Africans so figured I'd collect a nice new boat and enjoy a holiday and tour around.
After watching your and other videos regarding Leopard Boats, why would anyone think of spending hard earned money buying one of these shoddy Catamarans?
Your experience is beyond kak. We’re going to travel to Greece next month to inspect a Leopard 53 PC. I hope the marine surveyor is experienced enough to identify major underlying issues that may be hiding under the shiny gel coat
Why would Leopard even be a consideration? There's not a chance in 🔥Leopard would be given a thought.
So how many days have you had the boat? How many days has it actually been on the water? Why did you not get given a new boat instead of all this that you have had to go through? Would you buy this boat again or would you go to another boat builder? How do you actually feel about leopard boats?
All of you have had to do SO SO SO MUCH hard work rectifying these problems. Instead of enjoying the boat and travelling the world.
I really am sorry for what you have had to go through to get your home safe back where it belongs on the water!!! Yet you still have an incredible amount of work to do!!!
They only began to assist and negotiate ex Cape Town after TH-cam uploads. They won't provide a new boat without a contract and without answers for many other important factors. Now I have experienced certain things I would not want another boat to start again on anyway.
The big elephant / ?, in the room. Would you buy another leopard? 😊
We will think about it if they refund Trent for this one. ;)
If you do a final cost vs reimbursement video and settlement, use a spreadsheet to make easier for people to visually see. I’m assuming you are getting more than 28K worth of good will. Obviously this is going to cost you more money than the settlement will be.
There is currently no settlement negotiation or interest I can see from their side going beyond what is stated in this video and cleaning up their mess.
@ ugh!
I can only commend you all on your patience this story could not be conceived in the worst nightmare. Leopard after producing a piece of SH should run for the hills but this is not the case. Are all Leopard cats this bad or did you select a bag of lemons. Are these boats not constructed to some standards like A Lloyd's spec.. I could not get my head around the use of Carbon on the Bow hope it was free but it has limited use in certain applications. GO AND ENJOY YOU HAVE EARNED IT
I wouldn't buy a new one. Thanks for the comment and support.
We sailed round the world on a leopard and were so stoked with the quality of finish and construction. Mind you I did hear they stopped delivering them on their own bellies. Mine was delivered from SA to Turkey under its own sail not on a ship... These guys have had some really bad experiences. Mind you I also loved Chagaramus in Trinidad, especially the doubles from the street vendors out the front and all the amazing walks on the Trini coast and surrounding islands...
Don't write off Leopard on a single experience read around.
There are going to be more issues I’m sure once you have your shake down cruise…
Not much left to redo or flex.
Leopard management have dropped the ball. This may have been a rare lemon in the fleet but total cost of labour/ materials/ reputation damage would have way outweighed buying the boat back and put it into a charter fleet.
They have had so many chances. Thanks for the comment, the guys find it so disappointing it ended like this.
It sounds like u would have been better buying a used boat an refitted it man can't believe a new company would give this mu problem's srry for the troubles captains...fair winds n safe travels
Yes, but due to lock down the used market evaporated so it wasn't an option to buy near new.
Leopard! You should be out of business permanently! It is criminal to see what you caused and you must take care of this fiasco immediately.
Letting this go is absurd for everyone. Thanks for the comment and support.
I will never by a Leopard because of the qualities defect and that they are not assuming there responsibilities. you have to be paid as minimum for all your expenses: material, time, insurance,..
Covering expenses by itself isn't good enough and I think most potential buyers would agree.
Sorry for what happened to you all. For the money you guys spent up till now, you could've probably bought a cheap residence in Trinidad and get a smaller boat, then cruise the caribbean 🤷♂️
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
So, so sorry you got stuck with this POS Leopard Cat.
Thanks for watching I agree
@@travelsketch POS could mean the capital of T&T Port of Spain I hope that's not what he meant .
I don't think we can own Port of Spain.
@@travelsketch You know I was kidding right?
So am I 😉😁
nightmare none the less.
Thanks for the comment and support.
It would be interesting to hear Leopard's side of this story.
yes, if they swear on a Bible
There's been numerous videos about Leopard cats for years. Why did you buy? People like you baffle me.
Those are my videos, this is how long this has been going on.....
Sad story! Nobody cares!
Hum so you speak for all is my first thought. Secondly you cared enough to tell all you know what everyone thinks. Wow what education you have you deserve a refund but who care that you are what you are. Your first name begins with a a ? Last name ends with a r as you think all should agree with you. Got it.
You are a sorry S O B.
Me. And my boating mates. You are the only thing we don’t care about
@@lifeliver9000 yes but you didn’t speak for me I really don’t care about how you feel also. But don’t speak for me I am an alpha male. That smart enough not to speak for others. Got it you think you speak for all. Like your little buddy. I don’t have buddy’s also. Stay with the group hug. Me and my friends will laugh at you buddy people not interested in a butty.
Your Leopard will never be a - safe - blue water crossing boat. It's designed to be a coastal cruiser and if that's all you ever do with it it's perfectly safe when fixed. Every crossing will be a roll of the dice. If you want to a blue water crossing boat you have to buy one. They aren't cheap or fast but they are safe.
That is very sad because it was sold as an ocean crossing boat.* It has been repaired pretty well in our opinion.
@@travelsketchthousands of Leopards have crossed oceans and demonstrated they are blue water capable. Please list the Leopards that have been lost at sea due to the hulls failing. Well it's going to be a very short list as in probably zero so.....
Everyone can have an opinion even when it's completely ridiculous. All those coastal Leopards we've seen around the world have been carefully delivered by ship to get there😅😅.
It was a typo, I corrected it. Do a web search the number is not zero but I believe the number is zero for the Leopard 45 specifically.
Tell that to Leopards marketing team. They think differently
Yes the boat had issues But you are the client from hell,were do you come from ,tell me again?
Wtf, was this English?
So you expect Trent, Tynan, and Telicia to just bend over and take it quietly. They've spent 636 days of their youth on the hard trying to get a new Leopard repaired to sail. Crawl back into your hole.
Why am I the client from hell? List reasons. Imagine being told a boat was going to be on TH-cam at POS and still serving this one up. Imagine sending a warranty replacement table to a boat with blisters and the table is covered in blisters. What adjective would you apply? 🤡
Troll here
@Rex your comment just reflects low intelligence, shame