@@MrHakubi He wasn't even a boss. He was just the last enemy you face in Mass Effect 3. So he became an icon for its abortion of an ending. I'm sure you remember what a big deal ME3's ending was? My favorite bit about that was some journalist writing an article about how the fans are so entitled and whiny. Then a few days later, he prints a retraction saying he saw the ending and gets it now. He didn't think it could possibly be as bad as the fans made it out to be, but it really was. Laughed my ass off at that. And big kudos to him for admitting he was wrong rather than doubling down like 95% of people do when shown evidence they're wrong.
And do you want to know what was especially hilarious to me? After realizing that I would be expected to deal with the frustration of another huge tank battle, I decided to essentially say “screw it” and infected Deathstroke’s last tank drone with my hacking program. When I pulled away in the Batmobile, I realized that Deathstroke was not retaliating at all against his reprogrammed drone, so I pretty much sat back and completely skipped fighting Deathstroke’s tank myself. The fact that they apparently did not program the boss fight for such a maneuver is pretty embarrassing.
"Pssh, I didn't struggle at all on Lawrence the first vicar" * thinks back "Pssh, the co-op player I summoned didn't struggle at all on lawrence the first vicar"
He's kind of a pushover if you're doing a strength build and you grab the pizza cutter (whirligig). I helped 1 of my friends recently with this boss. I could do 1/4 of the boss HP with 1 stamina bar lmfao
I'm with you Kelly. I loved Evolve, but the lack of balance, bad DLC practices, and high learning curve ran it into the ground. I still put over 100 hours in and enjoyed it thoroughly for what it was.
I personally think the Behemoth was way more OP than Wrath, not only you could make a wall to destroy a hunter all by your own, but he also has the most HP out of all of the monsters
@@theDeModcracy I'm still hoping someone will pick up the torch and make some kind of spiritual successor. I still think the core formula could survive in the modern gaming landscape. I think the bad DLC practices might have been the single biggest factor in the games death.
@@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 I never really got to mess around with the Behemoth too much. I have a love for dragons so I honestly played Goliath a lot just to breath fire.
Yeah I really liked that game, and when the formula worked well the experience was awesome, but with the DLC bad, balance people than doesn't know what to do, killed the game and it's a shame the concept it's really good but the execution was bad. P.D. I disliked Behemoth more that Wraith, at least the Wraith looks awesome when she's was destroying you.
That Deathstroke battle perfectly sums up what’s wrong with Arkham Knight: Something that could have been interesting and cool is ruined by an over-reliance on the goddamn Batmobile
Im almost even more pissed that there was no scarecrow boss whatsoever, just like what the hell was even the point of bringing him back, he would have been great as a boss, the Lego Games had far better batman bosses 😂
you either die in your prime, or live long enough to be surpassed hmm... sounds like an interesting story, some powerful entity fears losing it's seat as the ultimate being, and in that fear goes on a rampage to destroy everything so that nothing is left to surpass it when the world ends.
Okay I’m gonna say it, people are bitching about the Bed of Chaos way too much. Do people even fucking realize the two parasytes on each side don’t respawn? Like this is Dark Souls, if there is something you can appreciate then it’s stuff that doesn’t respawn. Also Lost Izalith isn’t even that bad, two easy mini bosses and the Bed of Chaos, the enemies are all slow and weak and you have bonfires on almost every corner. People who bitch about Lost Izalith and Blighttown haven’t played DS2 with its shitty, cheap and unfair designs. Blighttown is a beautiful area that makes you put your guard up and be ready for anything, slowly proceed and examine every corner and watch out for possible danger and the feeling when you get to that wonderul bonfire at the bottom, for me it was that moment when I first started appreciating the game for its true beauty.
@@EpsilonBiatch it's not worse than say, Capra Demon, in terms of design and its lore is brilliant; but holy shit. That was an awful time to turn the game into a platformer.
@@EpsilonBiatch i think dark souls 2 has some trash heaps too dont worry but you cant look at dark souls 1 with rose tinted glasses and say everythings good cause its got alot of things that are shit. In my opinion the game is amazing up until Anor Londo after that is a shit show with boring bosses and shit areas. The dlc however is amazing
Crodog 13 I can’t believe they went from a cool ass fist fight in Arkham City to a... car fight... I was hoping when I destroyed his tank he’d hop out and we’d fight on the ground but no...
#1 made a boss so powerful, it didn't only kill every player with ease, it also was able to warp time and space to kill something in the real world. The game.
Most frustratingly there could have been a simple solution that would save the game; to nerf Wraith immediately, because they gave Wraith its power and they could at least limit it.
I wanted Evolve to succeed so bad, it honestly sounded like a masterpiece of game design in theory that I never even bought because of the problems you mentioned. The idea of playing a private match in that game trash talking my mates while hunting them down (on either side) sounded amazing. Such a monumental disappointment.
The problem is that balancing a game like that is just so difficult, at least from what I've heard. But I was also super excited for it as well, sounded like an excellent concept
@@Sirrunalot24 Ya thats a big part of it. Asymmetric games like this are super hard to balance because you're effectively balancing two separate games. Every map, every objective, every character, and every ability has to be balanced not only against the other abilities your team can pick (like Goliath vs wraith ) you also have to balance it against an opposing team that functions completely differently from your own team. Like if a monster attack does 100 damage, and each monster has 1000 hp no biggie... until you look over at the hunters who each have 150 hp. That said I think Evolve is what put the asymmetric genre on the map as far as main stream goes. I'd wager games like Dead by Daylight wouldn't be nearly as popular if it wasn't for the foundation Evolve put down.
MC_Uniboob Why couldn’t they just make it impossible to buff the decoy and force you to stay invisible while it was active? Seems like proper balance to me.
@A J still not fun in any sense of the world. If theres no straight up fight there has to be either puzzle or spectacle or both. B.o.c has none of thoose things and is an embarrassment to fromsoft
When you encounter and lose to a "new" boss in Hollow Knight's Pantheons, you unlock him in the training room (the one with the boss statues) where you can rematch him to your heart's content until you feel comfortable enough to retry the Pantheon. I got to the last boss in the Pantheon of Hallownest, and I've tried to defeat that gigantic asshole in the training room ever since. Edit : *FINALLY FINISHED THE PANTHEON A MONTH OR SO AGO!* And you know what? I'd rather go through it a hundred more times than ever have to deal with Ascended Markoth again.
I finished today and it was the best feeling ever in gaming for me have to upload it now for my channel and yes markoth in ascended is insane i dont even wanna try it in radiant
@@pileoftrash7601 congrats i'm actually trying him now but overcharmed but still haven't beat him only him and absolute radiance to get all radiant bosses its gonna be a pain.
Yeah the vid was great but that point didn’t make sense one this is dlc something that the player base asked for not to mention the 5th pantheon only has abs rad as a new boss so it’s not like every 5 seconds you get hit with a new boss
Who's the worst boss of the decade? Answer 1 will surprise you! (And then blind you, then kill you, then kill your friends, then kill the very game that spawned it.)
Me: *looks at thumbnail* DEATHSTROKE FROM ARKHAM ORIGINS WORST BOSS FIGHT?!?!?!? Video: deathstroke from arkham knight... Me: oh, right, I tried to forget this happened
No shit man, deathstrock is my favorite arkham boss maybe because origins was my first game but damn it I was so disappointed when batman one punched him out of the tank, I was expecting the boss from origins once I was done with tank stuff but nope no second phase I wanted was there
There's plenty of other commenters coming out to defend him. I'd be interested to see a poll on how many agree that he's as bad as I say. I bet it'd be pretty split
theDeModcracy Lawrence is a fantastic boss but he’s very different like the demon of hatred, once u get good at fighting him, it’s so satisfying. The best way to fight him isn’t at the bootie btw, it’s not glued to the front of him best within a few feet
@@theDeModcracy I like the idea of a poll, not for a video of any sort, I'm just interested to see which side will win out. I hated him the first time I fought him, but now I really like him
I've seen people say that he's their favourite boss of Bloodborne and people say it semi regularly from what I've seen maybe they confuse him with Ludwig. He's not number 10 worthy imo but then again I'd struggle to come up with worst bosses of the decade. I think almost all remnants from the ashes bosses are far worse than Laurence. I actually don't mind him that much he's a bit annoying but I don't die to him he just forces you to only engage at certain times.
Kindred Fenrir aside from ancient dragon blue smelter demon and the twin Aava cats, I honestly don’t think any of the other bosses would be a contender for the top ten worst bosses of the decade, top 20 or 30 maybe, but I don’t really see any of them really being top ten worst.
bed of chaos is probably the least fun I've had with any boss in any game ever. it's just so frustrating. thank god there's a relatively easy strat to basically skip it using a bow and some firebombs, but still, before I learned that I hated literally just progressing that far in the game because I knew I'd have to face it eventually
@@notjazz. this is why no one likes DS fans, y'all are losers, play a game thats actually difficult and then come here with that "get good" bullshit. Shit is just learning movesets and timing. I get that from Monster Hunter and I dont have to look at those god awful DS graphics
I definitely agree that it’s no fun at all. However, I’ve heard a lot of people claim that it’s annoyingly difficult…because of the bs platforming they force you to do, in a game where platforming is essentially nonexistent everywhere else lol but I never struggle with it. I’ve only done it a couple times, but still. My first time doing it I died only once if I remember correctly. I mean, I knew what I was suppose to do from watching so many videos just like this about souls games, but I imagine most people complain about it on new play throughs…that’s what you’re referring to….so what exactly is it that messes you up? Just impatience? Like, you wanna get it over so bad that you end up making stupid mistakes lol so you have to do it al over again, frustrating you further…and end up making another mistake because now you reallyyyyyy want to get it over with?😂😂 If so, it’s a vicious cycle lol
I didn't even remember Lawrence at all. I don't remember exactly how many times I fought him before winning, but it's definitely less than three. Ludwig, on the other hand...
All this built up, destroying a bunch of dudes in red, fighting 5 cobras (what a pain in the ass) and all other shit. Only for the Deathstroke apear in tank with a company of Cobras, "MAGNIFICENT"
@@maciejpaszkowski8836 I wouldn't have minded the tank battle so much if we got a proper Deathstroke fight afterwards. But no, he got his asscheeks firmly slapped down as soon as he looked at Batman with his only good eye.
@@Odinsday yeah, lost potencial. At least it could be An awesome fight, but no. You beat his tank, the end. Even fight with Pigg was much better in my opinion. First: i prefer fighting Batman instead of batmobile. Two: this fight was a little bit harder for me (because i screwed bottons pressing and a lot of enemies). Three: it had much more tension and was much interesting! Without a Shadow of doubt, come on, you're looking after a guy who killed people in weird Way and toss them in the random locations
Video: no1 on the list is wraith - evolve Me: LoL that's not a boss, that's just another player Video: *explain how it ruined the whole game" Me: oh...
As someone with a LOT of time in Evolve, a skilled Kraken was always way scarier to fight than the Wraith. Wraith was far more fragile than the video implies.
@@thomassmith6673 as someone with a lot of time in both Wraith and Kraken, the issue was Wraith could take the battle to the hunters in second state and it would be tilted in their favor. Kraken had to play with a lot more skill to take the hunters on in second stage.
@@thomassmith6673 I think ease of use is a factor here too. If a skilled Kraken is just barely more difficult than an inexperienced Wraith, the Wraith will have the far greater impact on player base because anyone can pick it up and smack noobie hunters unchallenged.
@@joshbouman1654 To add to that, the issues with Evolved and Wraith started ON RELEASE. There wasn't a single skilled Kraken player on the entire server in week 1, when most of the Wraith's impact on the playerbase was had, so this doesn't really apply.
@@jackscott1218 I haven't played Evolve but I have played a ton of fighting games. It's when the easiest character to play is overpowered that a game fundamentally breaks. Sagat in Vanilla SF4, Meta Knight in Brawl. For every 1 person who can dominate with the hyper technical, strategic character there will be 100 destroying people with the free win simple character.
Sad that it made a top ten worst list for being a proper challenge lol. I’ll never beat it with all bindings, but that doesn’t make me think it’s bad just because I can’t do it. I just respect those who did, and move on.
@@joshuagleeson4776 The problem with P5 is not the challenge. It's the sheer amount of time you need to invest for every rematch. The lack of checkpoints doesn't even add challenge. The first 25 minutes of the pantheon are pathetically easy. I'm saying this as somebody who loves HK: P5's lack of checkpoints is bullshit.
@@juniperrodley9843 no, it's not bullshit. It's a boss rush. It's testing your consistency against every boss in the game when under pressure. If you're consistent enough to beat any given boss first try, then it will be a breeze. After I beat the pantheon the first time (which took three total attempts), I replayed it a few times. I beat it in 4 of 5 reruns. Why? Because I was consistent with every boss in the game after practising the tricky ones in the hall of gods. As in, there wasn't a single boss that I was nervous about facing. That's the trick of a boss rush; the first half is easy, but as you inch closer to the end, the pressure on the player builds. If you're confident in your ability to blast every boss in the game, that pressure doesn't get to you as much. I imagine if you hate a lack of checkpoints, you wouldn't be fan of games like Dead Cells lol.
Thank God, someone else realises how bad the Deathstroke boss is Personally I don't fully agree with Laurence being that bad, but hey, to each their own
I think the Arkham Knight should have been in the list, they could have made the best boss battle in the entire series, instead, the decided to make it a stealth section bullshit, soo dissapointed 👎
I remember when I quit playing Evolve we air dropped in for the match and the Wraith hadn't left spawn just waited for us and won right at the start of the game lvl.1.
the worxt part is that it's not twoface or riddler or penguin you're fighting inside that tank but freaking deathstroke. the most deadliest assasin in the world with skills at batman level and a big arsenal of weapons ans he hides in a tank and the gets oneshotted by batman
"The wraith gave the steeringwheel intot the hands of gamers... You cant trust players with that kind of power, they troll people into oblivion until all competition is dust" Humanity is flawed to the core.
yeah, evolve is one of those games that I went back to and thought "wow this game looks like it had so much potential and effort put into it why the fuck is no one talking about it?". TBH I feel like doom eternals battlemode is actually the closest that a company has come to getting asymetric FPS games "right". unlike evolve who had a pretty linear power dynamic battle mode has a for lack of a better term very dynamic power dynamic. the shift in power changes second by second, one second the slayer is hot on your tail, burning you down. the next second the slayer is running for his life as you narrow down his options with different abilities and try to corner him. the arena is never big enough so as to make the game simply just hide and seek, but isn't small enough to make engagements feel extremely forced.
Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defences, take this beast out, and break their grip of Freehold.
I honestly don't get how he made that mistake considering he was called out on that pronunciation years ago, acknowledged his mistake in a later video, and pronounced it normally for a long while after.
Goodness... I beat the pantheon of Hallownest after a staggering, MADDENING 70 hours. I'm at least glad to see that someone else shares my pain. I got my friend into Hollow Knight, and when she got to Godhome, I BEGGED her to never play the Pantheon of Hallownest, and this is from a person who believes that with enough time, anyone can be good at just about anything. I may have brought myself to the top, but at what cost? I lost something that day. I'd still like to know what that is, if not my own sanity.
I truly believe that anyone can overcome any challenge in a game with enough time and effort. The time and effort they are asking of us is insane. Condolences for you sanity, my friend.
Tbh, I'm only really wanting to unlock pure vessel and absolute radiance in the boss room, so I can truly have beaten every boss in the game. Problem is getting there....
Precisely why I never did it. I know I could eventually do it, but why? Why would I subject myself to fighting the same bosses over and over because of one mistake? I think the point Demod made about there being entirely new bosses only in that pantheon is sound. You literally would not be ready for the boss's moveset when you get to them the first time which greatly increases your chance of restarting. That Pantheon should have been all the bosses you had fought thusfar in the game, but then you unlock either another pantheon or a checkpoint that then had all the new bosses. That way you still have the gauntlet, but also are not cheated by having to start over because you haven't learned the new bosses yet.
@@theDeModcracy personally I disagree, I think the benefit of Ascended and Radiant boss versions (which boost the bosses damage) help you learn the best strategies to minimize damage. I agree, it doesn't guarantee success, but it's helped me reach a point where even the more difficult bosses (such as NKG and Pure Vessel) can be beaten with less than two hits consistently
I beat it after a few tries. To be fair, it took long for me to beat Absolute Radiance consistently, but after I did (consistency as in beat him sometimes) i quickly did the panteon after.
I gotta say, pantheon of hollownest has been one of my favorite video game challenges I've played. If you want a challenging finale boss fight with stakes higher than they ever have been before, then this is exactly what you look for. My stress has never been higher on Pantheon 5 and after hollow knight having many tough bosses, I wouldn't want the game to end any other way. I think its like asking a game like dark souls to make a hidden boss a little easier in order to make more people see the ending. Removing the difficulty lessens the rewarding feeling you get when you can finally grit through it and overcome the challenge.
I remember playing the Alpha release for Evolve at comic con in Australia. I was so hyped and excited that i convinced 6 of my friends to get it. Within about a month or so i became the 10th best support character in all Australia leader board and 69th globally (friends were roughly the same for their classes). When the wraith came out we just got destroyed. It got to the point where as soon as it showed you that you went up against it, nearly everyone would back out to save what he said in the video. I tried but it got worse and i never went back
Just wanna say. In the entire soulsborne games, i had only two bosses left. Midir and Laurence. After hours trying with Laurence i came to the point of having him two or three hits away and plenty of healing, but i was one shot by an attack i somehow had never seen before or managed to avoid every time (It was like a fire explosion). So i gave up on my pride and summoned two other people, and we beat him. I was still happy to see that piece of shit die. Now i'll keep trying with Midir. May have to summon too.
My experience with evolve and the wraith are one of tragedy, i was a highschooler who preorder the game AND the dlc, and was super stoke for this atypical gaming format and unique skill vs power fantasy. The wraith though on launch, while was my most preferred fighting style in diversion and bursting, compared to krakens long range kiting and goliaths brute forcing. i quickly had to ban MYSELF from playing the wraith because i had a near undefeated winning streak over 40plus games. The wraith power was cool initially but even i understood the toxicity of its power when i saw myself wait for 10min queues to a brand new game. Not mention the times when i took to the hunters side and felt the same level of brutality I was dishing out. I loved evolve and the wraith for what it was. But I HATE them for what they did. It only made more more frustrated down the line when i learn that this mistake was never fixed fast enough because the publisher/ producer forced turtle rock to not quick patch the game, instead holding any changes for major updates/dlc drops. Evolve was a unnecessary tragedy of the gaming industry whos only redeeming quality is its inspiration to others on the gameplay format.
I had so much trouble fighting Laurence, throwing myself at him multiple times, even with help, and failing to even get him to second phase because of all the BS. And then what I can only assume was a hacker joined my game, three shotted him, and peaced out. Now...I don't condone hacking normally.....but I will forever love that man.
I wouldn't say 3 shots but he is a fucking pushover with the whirligig saw + a str build!! I just melted him in my friend's game a few weeks ago lol. Doing about 1/4 of his HP with 1 stamina bar :P
The point of the fifth pantheon in HK is sort of to have an "all bosses" boss rush so the checkpoint system would lessen the whole point. I think it is intentionally "too hard" because of lore reasons
@@theDeModcracy i can agree with that. I must say i lost a couple nights of sleep, and didn't enjoy bashing my head against the brick wall that is absrad (allthough i am very lucky to have discovered that you don't need to kill her to face her in the hall of gods)
theDeModcracy If you ever need to practice the hard bosses, there’s something called the hall of gods in which you can practice bosses you faced in the pantheons on normal difficulty or harder ones to get better at the bosses
Loved the rush fighting all the bosses. Didn't like thee face that they walled off one ending cutscene behind a bosh rush that many players would never complete though.
I just beat the pantheon for the first time a few hours ago actually. I loved it. Sure Absolute Radiance is terrible at first, but once I practiced him enough it wasn't too bad.
When I saw the Deathstroke battle on here, I shouted "YES". I love the Arkham games but Arkham Knight's heavy reliance on using the Batmobile for EVERYTHING really prevents me from wanting to replay it 😅
I recently replayed it and got insanely good with batmobile and its mechanics. The game thrown on highest difficulty actually makes the deathstroke fight a little challenging and more enjoyable, even though by that point you've spent about 20 hours in it, when you use everything you've learned it can be fun
Jannis Schaefer I honestly like it more than 4 kings and Neto because 4 kings is just a garbage DPS test where you ether kill the kings quickly or get yanked on by 7 with their easy to doge moves while Neto’s only semblance of difficulty comes from him possy of skeletons that distract you from the the fact that his attacks are so easy to Dagon and slow they make the covetous daemon look like orphan of kos at least bed of chaos can be betten relatively fast with you maintaining your progress Sith is okay though
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I personally love the pantheon of hollownest, it really makes you feel so much stronger when you're able to beat every single boss in the game without breaking a sweat. For the last three you just have to practice in the hall of gods until you feel confident enough that you can beat them in one try, it rewards mastery of the game, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
It's such a shame that Wraith was so broken. I love stealthy characters that hit hard. Then comes the point where I feel _bad_ for playing a character that I genuinely just love as a concept because it's so one-sided.
I was so overjoyed when you said Laurence. I adored fighting Ludwig and Orphan, despite the fact they kicked my ass into the cosmos and back repeatedly. But Laurence absolutely infuriated me. Know that I know how to cheese Micolash, I can honestly say that Laurence is the only non-chalice dungeon boss I truly despise. I'm so relieved that it's not just me.
My thoughts exactly. Ludwig is my favourite boss in the game, and, even though he was kicking me into the dirt, I never felt mad when fighting Orphan. Micolash is alright if you know where to chase him. Laurence, on the other hand, genuinely just infuriated me every moment I was fighting him, and when I finally killed him, instead of "yay, I killed him!" it was "thank god that bitch is finally dead". In short, fuck laurence, other bosses good
Laurence took me a LONG time to learn, but I love fighting him now. Knowing his combos and dashing in between his swipes is so much fun. You need to play differently for all three phases, most of my deaths were not adjusting my play style once his moveset swaps up for the first time at 70% health when he swaps up combos for belly flops. Last phase at 40% is always super intense for me but I never die to it. Its always the middle phase that kills me. Favorite Soulsborne boss!
7:10 This is exactly how it is to do Fight Caves for the first time in Old School Runescape. The Inferno is even longer, some insane dedication is needed there
Warden Eternal from Halo 5 was way worse imo since you actually had to fight him. Laziest designed boss I've had the displeasure of fighting in recent memory, and you had to do so multiple times throughout the already terrible campaign.
@@BallinBubblegumI think Halo 5 just wasn't worth discussing to him. He said he wanted to focus on bad bosses in games which were otherwise generally good (which Halo 5's campaign wasn't be it from a lore or gameplay perspective.)
I really like how untraditional this list was in terms of choices. The explanations for each did well to justify the placement of most of the entries on here, and were entertaining on top of that.
5th pantheon was one of the greatest gaming experience i ever had. So challenging but i was screaming in my room when i finished it. And being in the 1% of gamers makes you feel so satisfied
Honestly feel like Evolve was ahead of it's time. Yeah it had balancing issues, but if it came out today in the free-to-play format ala fortnite and apex legends, I feel like it would have a massive following. Because despite it's flaws, the game and the mechanics felt good, and was really fun to play.
Couldn't agree more with HK's pantheon. I don't like it when a game takes my time for granted or, worse yet, wastes it for no good reason. It's a shame because the new bosses were quite enjoyable, but killing some of them for the nth time ended up spoiling the whole experience. Hope they change it with Silksong.
Hollow knight's world, lore, and nearly everything in it is very accessible to I would say most of the gaming community, despite the game being hard to get into. The pantheon of hallownest is misunderstood I think. It was not designed to be completed by everybody, it was not designed to be a part of the core gaming experience, the whole godmaster update was a side track of storytelling. The pantheon of hallownest was not about the fancy end cutseen or the bosses it had. It was made to be completed only by 1.4% of the players. You had to master every single boss in the game to near perfection with no exception and push your limits to levels the game normally wouldn't. The reward was spiritual. Not some fancy charm or some lore stuff the fact that you proved yourself to be one of the most skilled people in the community. You are not going to do it without dedication, as it will instantly punish anyone with the "imma doing this real quick" mentality. Sometimes you have to have a part like this. And I am proud for team cherry by making it. Why? because it is not part of the core experience. If you were forced to do it to finish the game then yeah it sucks ass it devours your time with each attempt does not let you play the game normally delete this shit.... But if you look at the game map, it is well hidden, is a last part of the last dlc content entirely based around boss rush and it gives you that special feeling IF you try it, pump the time into it, and succeed at it. Then the story is entirely different. But I might be overthinking it and have just enjoyed the 30 hours suffering because I also happen to like super meat boy, celeste, the end is nigh and geometry dash, who knows.
Maaaan, when the game says you completed 100% of it, it means you won. No one asks you to try and drill the 112% if you just do not have the skill and perseverance to become an absolute master at the game. And I think that's apparent just from the fact Team Cherry hid the challenge away from the main line of the game; the same goes for Path of Pain. I'm just surprised Demodcracy bitches around about it, didn't think he'd be that kind of a casual...
@@volmutik4063 I have the platinum, doesn't mean that I liked it. The bosses themselves were great, but asking me to sit through 40 bosses that I've already cleared plenty of times is not my idea of fun. There's plenty of ways of making something challenging without making it inconvenient.
Oh God Wraith being no.1 just bought me some PTSD flashbacks. It's like they came up with a good monster concept, and then sucked out all the balance out of it.
I am actually confused about this. Why they didn't release patches to balance the wraith? The beauty of post-production support is you can fix issues you have after you launch the game. What the crap happened with this game?
I played evolve and loved most of it but whenever there was a wraith I knew that my team was gonna get wrecked. It was doomed to fail even without the wraith due to its insane amount of dlc. 2K was taking a page out of EA’s book when they made evolve apparently.
I've always really like Laurence the first vicar, while he could have been better, but I always thought the cleric beast could have been very fun, but it was too easy, so when they made a harder cleric beast with some extra moves and mechanics with a new phase, I was happy. And I had fun mastering the difficult boss
I miss Evolve so much. It was so flawed, but damn it was amazing if you had a good match. I loved playing Goliath as a monster. It felt so good able to take on hunters. But stage 1 I was weak, fragile. I had to dodge them, crawl, make sure I didn't leave footprints, juke them if they did find me, don't alert the birds and so on. Using your senses to make sure they're not on your ass. It was such thrilling gameplay when it all went right. What a game, what a loss, what a disaster. But i'll always love it.
"Personally as long as I feel the L's I'm taking are my fault more often than not I can crack away all day" Ooh god I remember the artorias weapon randomizer and the amount of attempts you had before giving up to try again later
@@firenze6478 you talkin about the different Divine Beast bosses? They were all different, with different move sets and designs. I personally really enjoyed those fights, especially in the Champions Ballad, as it was just using what you got instead of farming or getting crazy weapons.I know that your comment is a year old so this may seem out of the blue.
Thank you for mentioning Pantheon of Hallownest. It pissed me off so much that the final ending was locked behind that enormous waste of time. I respect the work that went into Godmaster but it actually made the game worse to me.
@HeheCult I don't know who that is but it just takes practice, just like you said. I think people should just persevere and if they are not enjoying it, go play something else. No harm there. Let others enjoy the challenge then.
Truly a travesty they put a very short cutscene behind what is meant to be a challenge that gives nothing and is purely meant to be fun for the people who like the games combat, it’s almost as though if u are not good enough u could look it up on TH-cam
As one of those 1.4% that has completed the Pantheon of Hallownest... It really can bite me. I still feel like I only beat the final boss of the pantheon through sheer luck... and spite to beat it before Silksong's released.
I loved it. It feels good to overcome such a challenge and see videos like this calling it one of the worst ‘bosses’ (?) of the year. It honestly even isn’t that bad. There’s only like 6 bosses that have a chance to end your run, so just practice those until they’re easy lol.
@@joshuagleeson4776 is it extremely hard? Yes, absolutely. That doesn't make it impossible. If you're going for 100% (true 100%) you're comited, the difficulty will just make you determined
@Cavalo Niilista do Diabo I would agree, but locking significant lore and an ending behind it with no options for the benches to work was just bad design. It's seriously way too fuckin difficult.
I only partly agree with the Pantheon of Hallownest pick. I love the challenge behind it, even if it takes as long as it does. It makes completing it feel incredibly rewarding, which would've been ruined by your bench suggestion. What I disliked about it though, was how some fights were so easy in comparison that they didn't contribute anything to that feeling of accomplishment. However some of the criticism is just wrong: The only boss you get locked out of, if you're not ready for this, is Absolute Radiance though you can always do just usual Radiance. Besides that you can find every single boss in every variant in Godhome once you have said Pantheon unlocked. That way you can also easily get some reps in for hard bosses, so having to do the whole runback is to die repeatedly at one boss really is the players fault for not practicing it.
Heck, you can even practice for Absolute Radiance after you die to it once during the Pantheon. It's pretty obvious you aren't gonna beat a painstaking gauntlet like that first try and you are a fool if you think you will be able to or are supposed to.
Can't say my opinion on the dlc bosses since I haven't fought them but I hate Watchdog. He in my opinion has some of the worst hitboxes in the game along with his massive damage output and high health. I'll admit he looks awesome and the fight is pretty epic but his technical problems are annoying
@@svartrbrisingr6141 I do now like watchdog, but i think that was some form of stockholm syndrome, begrudgingly repeating the boss over and over again, something suddenly clicked and i began to understand and like it. now i can mostly do the boss without getting hit (kinda have to tbh, so most people probably can) if you ever have the oppurtunity to, i highly recommend the DLC, one of the best gaming experiences ive ever gone through
@@kelakogreenaddict1888 have thought of it but I prioritize new games over dlc. I'll get more hours out of a new game then dlc for a game I've played a lot. Not to mention half a terabyte of storage were 80% is system limits my game choices
I should bring it back. It's been on the back-burner because I have a bad habit of starting to many series at once. We'll see how things rollout in the new year. Decade lists and Top 100 are the first priorities!
Zorah Magdaros seems like it was supposed to be a update to Jhen Mohran, which was a fun boss because you were forced to fight it in a party. There were tons of different ways to approach the monster, even though the fight was unorthodox and used the cannons, ballistae, etc. Zorah takes that formula and makes it a centerpiece of the story mode, and most players fight him solo. It's miserable.
I've seen way too many comments moaning about how he "just put the Pantheon of Hallownest on the list cause he wants it to be easy". I'd like to explain why this is incorrect. Nobody wants it to be easy. People just don't have the time. Think about it: how many people have tens of hours that they're both able and willing to spend refighting the same 40 bosses just cause they died against one of the few genuine challenges of the Pantheon? Not many. I love Hollow Knight's most challenging fights. You know what I don't love? The non-challenging ones. And you know what makes up the entire first half hour of P5? The non-challenging ones.
But you dont practice the few challenging ones in the Pantehon but in the Hall of Gods i personally failed it 3 Times and then finished it because i practiced the ones that gave me trouble induvidually
Really good ideas for Hollow Knight. I love the game but didn't even attempt the boss runs bc they're ridiculous. Benches as checkpoints would actually lead me to play it and keep trying for better times!
Hollow knight: includes a boss rush mode to present a challenge to top tier players, and includes a substantial reward for completing it. Casuals: *high pitch screeching because they demand to be catered to, and spoonfed easy wins*
Yeah including the fifth pantheon on this list isn’t very classy. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how it is designed. If you die in the pantheon then you’re not good enough yet and don’t deserve to beat it. Casuals are just butthurt that better players are rewarded for the skill while they won’t bother putting in the time to get better lol. It’s literally a boss rush. Making the benches checkpoints would dilute the challenge and make it less rewarding for actually skilled players. Thank fuck they made it a real challenge, and not some pussy ass participation medal for the purposes of ‘mUh aCCesSiBIliTy.’
It's not too hard, it just takes too long. Why do people find this so difficult to grasp? Is it because you're too busy calling people casuals for having lives outside of this game? I love Hollow Knight and I absolutely fucking adore the hardest bosses in it (and the Path of Pain, but it's not a boss). However, I just don't have time to waste retreading 40 bosses every time I fail to beat one of the few actual challenges in the Pantheon.
The imprisoned? Take that back Edit: Wraith? You earn my respect back. I was a top monster player for a while, mostly goliath, pre-ordered it enjoyed it a ton
Alien Platypus it’s pronounced vicker, and someone had made a point of that awhile ago and he even mentioned it in one of his boss ranking lists, so he’s well aware of the fact it’s pronounced vicker but still pronounces it vyecar to annoy people
@@theravenmonarch9441 I agree with you to sone certain extent but this is a liat of worst bosses of the decade. So many games and bosses have been really if not extremely bad so for Laurence to be here is kind of controversial. Yes I agree that FROMSOFTWARE did not do justice to this boss whose existence is mentioned throughout whole game but still in my opinion is far from being on this list.
In defense of the Pantheon, there is.a way to fight all the bosses (except Absolute Radiance) without even touching the Pantheon of Hallownest. The Hall of Gods is a practice area where you can fight any of the bosses in any order, with varying difficulty settings, so you can learn attacks patterns and optimize charm loadouts.
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That #1 is clever. One bad boss normally doesn't ruin the ENTIRE game, but this one literally did.
I read your comment before finishing the video. I was expecting Marauder Shields.
@@Veladus mass effect? Those were easy..
@@MrHakubi The issue definitely wasn't difficulty.
@@Veladus then what was wrong with the shields?
@@MrHakubi He wasn't even a boss. He was just the last enemy you face in Mass Effect 3. So he became an icon for its abortion of an ending. I'm sure you remember what a big deal ME3's ending was? My favorite bit about that was some journalist writing an article about how the fans are so entitled and whiny. Then a few days later, he prints a retraction saying he saw the ending and gets it now. He didn't think it could possibly be as bad as the fans made it out to be, but it really was. Laughed my ass off at that. And big kudos to him for admitting he was wrong rather than doubling down like 95% of people do when shown evidence they're wrong.
"Deathstroke"
???
"Arkham night"
Oh
Literally why I clicked. Thought he was gonna say Arkham Origin fight was bad because i completely forgot Deathstroke was even in Knight XD
And do you want to know what was especially hilarious to me? After realizing that I would be expected to deal with the frustration of another huge tank battle, I decided to essentially say “screw it” and infected Deathstroke’s last tank drone with my hacking program. When I pulled away in the Batmobile, I realized that Deathstroke was not retaliating at all against his reprogrammed drone, so I pretty much sat back and completely skipped fighting Deathstroke’s tank myself. The fact that they apparently did not program the boss fight for such a maneuver is pretty embarrassing.
@@markcobuzzi826 omg LOL. Im gonna have to try that if I ever get around to replaying it
@Kinda Irish
Yup, and unless my experience was just a lucky glitch/fluke, it would definitely be a sight for you to behold.
The Deathstroke fight was easily the coolest and most memorable thing in Arkham Origins
"Pssh, I didn't struggle at all on Lawrence the first vicar"
* thinks back
"Pssh, the co-op player I summoned didn't struggle at all on lawrence the first vicar"
Fucking Laurence
He's kind of a pushover if you're doing a strength build and you grab the pizza cutter (whirligig). I helped 1 of my friends recently with this boss. I could do 1/4 of the boss HP with 1 stamina bar lmfao
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Laurence above Living Failures or Celestial Emissary as worst Bloodborne boss is laughable.
Honestly his lore and music alone make the boss fight at least decent
The mismanagement and subsequent death of Evolve is my greatest gaming sadness of the decade. Loved that game.
I'm with you Kelly. I loved Evolve, but the lack of balance, bad DLC practices, and high learning curve ran it into the ground. I still put over 100 hours in and enjoyed it thoroughly for what it was.
I personally think the Behemoth was way more OP than Wrath, not only you could make a wall to destroy a hunter all by your own, but he also has the most HP out of all of the monsters
@@theDeModcracy I'm still hoping someone will pick up the torch and make some kind of spiritual successor. I still think the core formula could survive in the modern gaming landscape.
I think the bad DLC practices might have been the single biggest factor in the games death.
@@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 I never really got to mess around with the Behemoth too much. I have a love for dragons so I honestly played Goliath a lot just to breath fire.
Yeah I really liked that game, and when the formula worked well the experience was awesome, but with the DLC bad, balance people than doesn't know what to do, killed the game and it's a shame the concept it's really good but the execution was bad.
P.D. I disliked Behemoth more that Wraith, at least the Wraith looks awesome when she's was destroying you.
That Deathstroke battle perfectly sums up what’s wrong with Arkham Knight: Something that could have been interesting and cool is ruined by an over-reliance on the goddamn Batmobile
Meanwhile his battle in origins is great. I miss origins, people complained about it, but it was my favourite arkham
If the batmobile had better controls it would be ok.....but it can be super annoying
@@agiammarco94 Honestly, I don't think that is the main problem, the main problem is just too much batmobile in the game
That fight would have been fine if it was any other villain, but Deathstroke? It makes no sense why Deathstroke would engage you in a tank battle
Im almost even more pissed that there was no scarecrow boss whatsoever, just like what the hell was even the point of bringing him back, he would have been great as a boss, the Lego Games had far better batman bosses 😂
Wraith killing the game so she doesn’t get nerfed
“Oh yeah this is big brain time”
you either die in your prime, or live long enough to be surpassed
hmm... sounds like an interesting story, some powerful entity fears losing it's seat as the ultimate being, and in that fear goes on a rampage to destroy everything so that nothing is left to surpass it when the world ends.
The first time in history a boss has ever beaten its own game.
@@masonjones7777 That sounds like a fun game. I want this now.
@@captncuddlybear9404 kuja ff9
Playing dark souls 1 again:
Me: Ahh what was next again?
*lost Izalith*
Me: F**K!!!! MY EYES!!!
I say that for half of dark souls 1. Blightown. Lost Izalith, Tomb of the Giants.
Okay I’m gonna say it, people are bitching about the Bed of Chaos way too much. Do people even fucking realize the two parasytes on each side don’t respawn? Like this is Dark Souls, if there is something you can appreciate then it’s stuff that doesn’t respawn. Also Lost Izalith isn’t even that bad, two easy mini bosses and the Bed of Chaos, the enemies are all slow and weak and you have bonfires on almost every corner. People who bitch about Lost Izalith and Blighttown haven’t played DS2 with its shitty, cheap and unfair designs. Blighttown is a beautiful area that makes you put your guard up and be ready for anything, slowly proceed and examine every corner and watch out for possible danger and the feeling when you get to that wonderul bonfire at the bottom, for me it was that moment when I first started appreciating the game for its true beauty.
@@fishnutz5196 I can't not choose Master Key, just to cut out that first part of the area when I'm trying to ring some bells.
@@EpsilonBiatch it's not worse than say, Capra Demon, in terms of design and its lore is brilliant; but holy shit. That was an awful time to turn the game into a platformer.
@@EpsilonBiatch i think dark souls 2 has some trash heaps too dont worry but you cant look at dark souls 1 with rose tinted glasses and say everythings good cause its got alot of things that are shit. In my opinion the game is amazing up until Anor Londo after that is a shit show with boring bosses and shit areas. The dlc however is amazing
“How is Bed of Chaos #4?”
*Deathstroke*
NVM FORGOT ABOUT THAT AWFUL “FIGHT”!
Arkham Knight glitched on me and said I defeated deathstroke. He showed up and fell through the world then it said I completed the mission
@@cameronmorgan2347 lol
@@cameronmorgan2347 OOF
Crodog 13 I can’t believe they went from a cool ass fist fight in Arkham City to a... car fight... I was hoping when I destroyed his tank he’d hop out and we’d fight on the ground but no...
Spiderodoom, you fight Deathstroke in Arkham Origins. Not City.
#1 made a boss so powerful, it didn't only kill every player with ease, it also was able to warp time and space to kill something in the real world. The game.
Most frustratingly there could have been a simple solution that would save the game; to nerf Wraith immediately, because they gave Wraith its power and they could at least limit it.
I wanted Evolve to succeed so bad, it honestly sounded like a masterpiece of game design in theory that I never even bought because of the problems you mentioned. The idea of playing a private match in that game trash talking my mates while hunting them down (on either side) sounded amazing. Such a monumental disappointment.
If ya play ps4 were slowly getting a community coming together to play evolve again. Got about 8 people now and there are others that come and go
The problem is that balancing a game like that is just so difficult, at least from what I've heard. But I was also super excited for it as well, sounded like an excellent concept
@@Sirrunalot24 Ya thats a big part of it. Asymmetric games like this are super hard to balance because you're effectively balancing two separate games. Every map, every objective, every character, and every ability has to be balanced not only against the other abilities your team can pick (like Goliath vs wraith ) you also have to balance it against an opposing team that functions completely differently from your own team. Like if a monster attack does 100 damage, and each monster has 1000 hp no biggie... until you look over at the hunters who each have 150 hp.
That said I think Evolve is what put the asymmetric genre on the map as far as main stream goes. I'd wager games like Dead by Daylight wouldn't be nearly as popular if it wasn't for the foundation Evolve put down.
Why didn’t they just remove the wraith is my question
MC_Uniboob Why couldn’t they just make it impossible to buff the decoy and force you to stay invisible while it was active? Seems like proper balance to me.
It felt so weird for a negative list to keep going after bed of chaos
'It was to cheese players'. That is the problem. Cheap 1 hit k.o.s are not fun or well designed. Which perfectly describes b.o.c
@A J still not fun in any sense of the world. If theres no straight up fight there has to be either puzzle or spectacle or both. B.o.c has none of thoose things and is an embarrassment to fromsoft
Bed of Chaos was a challenge because they tried to put a platforming segment in a game that doesnt lend itself to that sorta thing
@@1987palerider i no ya wot a stupid idea
I didnt keep going wym.
When you encounter and lose to a "new" boss in Hollow Knight's Pantheons, you unlock him in the training room (the one with the boss statues) where you can rematch him to your heart's content until you feel comfortable enough to retry the Pantheon.
I got to the last boss in the Pantheon of Hallownest, and I've tried to defeat that gigantic asshole in the training room ever since.
Edit : *FINALLY FINISHED THE PANTHEON A MONTH OR SO AGO!* And you know what? I'd rather go through it a hundred more times than ever have to deal with Ascended Markoth again.
I finished today and it was the best feeling ever in gaming for me have to upload it now for my channel and yes markoth in ascended is insane i dont even wanna try it in radiant
@@Father_of_Kos .i-i... did.. r-r-radiant markoth.... 20 hours
@@pileoftrash7601 congrats i'm actually trying him now but overcharmed but still haven't beat him only him and absolute radiance to get all radiant bosses its gonna be a pain.
Yeah the vid was great but that point didn’t make sense one this is dlc something that the player base asked for not to mention the 5th pantheon only has abs rad as a new boss so it’s not like every 5 seconds you get hit with a new boss
@@pixelatorjta and flying nosk but he is easy
Who's the worst boss of the decade? Answer 1 will surprise you! (And then blind you, then kill you, then kill your friends, then kill the very game that spawned it.)
Me: *looks at thumbnail* DEATHSTROKE FROM ARKHAM ORIGINS WORST BOSS FIGHT?!?!?!?
Video: deathstroke from arkham knight...
Me: oh, right, I tried to forget this happened
>deadstroke
@@darthsidious1959 Deathstroke
Believe me that 7 cobra tanks under cloudburst took me a whole week they haunted my nightmares there was no fucking was i was gonna do that shit again
Sameeeeee
My thoughts exactly
Glad this isn’t a typical “boss’s everyone knows are crap”
Except Bed of Chaos.
@@johncameron1935 yeah but... It's the Bed of Chaos, so it's fine.
What about bed of chaos
@@النبينفسه it's bed of chaos
me over here not knowing wtf is bed of chaos
when i saw the thumbnail i nearly lost my mind until i rememberd knight
same
The Joker I wouldn’t have really cared if they just added the origins fight into knight anything is better than tank fights, even Titan joker
Same
No shit man, deathstrock is my favorite arkham boss maybe because origins was my first game but damn it I was so disappointed when batman one punched him out of the tank, I was expecting the boss from origins once I was done with tank stuff but nope no second phase I wanted was there
Lol me too Origins Deathstroke fight is amazing
I was so confused when he said the wraith, and then I remembered that evolve existed.
And then the PTSD set back in
@Tristan my guy its a joke XD
Me playing Arkham knight: “YES FINALLY A DEATHSTROKE FIGHT!”
The damn batmobile: “Hey”
Don't know if you knew this already but Arkham origins has a deathstroke fight that's pretty good
I feel like I’m the only one who likes Laurence
There's plenty of other commenters coming out to defend him. I'd be interested to see a poll on how many agree that he's as bad as I say. I bet it'd be pretty split
theDeModcracy Lawrence is a fantastic boss but he’s very different like the demon of hatred, once u get good at fighting him, it’s so satisfying. The best way to fight him isn’t at the bootie btw, it’s not glued to the front of him best within a few feet
@@theDeModcracy I like the idea of a poll, not for a video of any sort, I'm just interested to see which side will win out. I hated him the first time I fought him, but now I really like him
I've seen people say that he's their favourite boss of Bloodborne and people say it semi regularly from what I've seen maybe they confuse him with Ludwig. He's not number 10 worthy imo but then again I'd struggle to come up with worst bosses of the decade. I think almost all remnants from the ashes bosses are far worse than Laurence. I actually don't mind him that much he's a bit annoying but I don't die to him he just forces you to only engage at certain times.
I love the music for the fight. Too bad it's drowned out by his constant wailing.
“Laurence is a flaming Reskin of the first boss”
Demon Firesage: What about me?!
The whole top 4 could have been Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith bosses. Thankfully he kept it to one boss per series :P
I'm just surprised he didn't take a spot to shit on dark souls 2 some more.
Kindred Fenrir aside from ancient dragon blue smelter demon and the twin Aava cats, I honestly don’t think any of the other bosses would be a contender for the top ten worst bosses of the decade, top 20 or 30 maybe, but I don’t really see any of them really being top ten worst.
I don't get why people keep shitting on DS2; DS2 was so bad they apologized by giving us the Bloodborne, DS3 was so bad it ended the soulsborne age.
was it? I thought BB started a bit later, like late enough that they could already see how "good" DS2 would be.
bed of chaos is probably the least fun I've had with any boss in any game ever. it's just so frustrating. thank god there's a relatively easy strat to basically skip it using a bow and some firebombs, but still, before I learned that I hated literally just progressing that far in the game because I knew I'd have to face it eventually
The run from bonfire to the boss was also painful if I recall.
It’s a trash boss but easy and asf….unironically…. just get good 🤣
@@platty9237 it is
@@notjazz. this is why no one likes DS fans, y'all are losers, play a game thats actually difficult and then come here with that "get good" bullshit. Shit is just learning movesets and timing. I get that from Monster Hunter and I dont have to look at those god awful DS graphics
I definitely agree that it’s no fun at all. However, I’ve heard a lot of people claim that it’s annoyingly difficult…because of the bs platforming they force you to do, in a game where platforming is essentially nonexistent everywhere else lol but I never struggle with it. I’ve only done it a couple times, but still. My first time doing it I died only once if I remember correctly. I mean, I knew what I was suppose to do from watching so many videos just like this about souls games, but I imagine most people complain about it on new play throughs…that’s what you’re referring to….so what exactly is it that messes you up? Just impatience? Like, you wanna get it over so bad that you end up making stupid mistakes lol so you have to do it al over again, frustrating you further…and end up making another mistake because now you reallyyyyyy want to get it over with?😂😂 If so, it’s a vicious cycle lol
May Dear God bless you if you see “WRAITH HAS EVOLVED TO STAGE 3!”
more like "May Dear God bless your corpse"
@@piotrnapora5810 "May God bless your ashes"
@@smokey9452 May god bless the one atom of you that exists anymore
Bless the wraith player for needing to get to stage 3. lol
"Bed of Chaos is Fromsoft's worst creation by FAR!"
Frigid Outskirts: "Allow me to introduce myself."
You triggered my PTSD
Oh man, you triggered mine as well, those ice horses, those two tigers...Aaarrrrggghhh!!!!
I felt this
Iron Passage is worse than frigid outskirts IMO
What about the petrification cave in old iron king?
I beat Laurence on my second try, this just shows how different play styles change your experience
I beat it in a couple tries but despite how easy it was it still sucked ass except the music
I hyped up how hard Lawrence was to my brother and while I did that, he beat him on the first try 😑
I didn't even remember Lawrence at all. I don't remember exactly how many times I fought him before winning, but it's definitely less than three. Ludwig, on the other hand...
Yeah the whirligig saw trivializes the fight a bit. Especially in phase 2. L2 FTW
I beat him first try but my god, my 24 blood Viles was at 3 by the time I beat him.
deathstroke in arkham origins was SO good
arkham knight deathstroke was a joke
All this built up, destroying a bunch of dudes in red, fighting 5 cobras (what a pain in the ass) and all other shit. Only for the Deathstroke apear in tank with a company of Cobras, "MAGNIFICENT"
@@maciejpaszkowski8836 I wouldn't have minded the tank battle so much if we got a proper Deathstroke fight afterwards. But no, he got his asscheeks firmly slapped down as soon as he looked at Batman with his only good eye.
@@Odinsday yeah, lost potencial. At least it could be An awesome fight, but no. You beat his tank, the end. Even fight with Pigg was much better in my opinion. First: i prefer fighting Batman instead of batmobile. Two: this fight was a little bit harder for me (because i screwed bottons pressing and a lot of enemies). Three: it had much more tension and was much interesting! Without a Shadow of doubt, come on, you're looking after a guy who killed people in weird Way and toss them in the random locations
But origins is not an A R K H A M G A M E
@@vitunpaska8737 th-cam.com/video/BLUkgRAy_Vo/w-d-xo.html
Video: no1 on the list is wraith - evolve
Me: LoL that's not a boss, that's just another player
Video: *explain how it ruined the whole game"
Me: oh...
As someone with a LOT of time in Evolve, a skilled Kraken was always way scarier to fight than the Wraith. Wraith was far more fragile than the video implies.
@@thomassmith6673 as someone with a lot of time in both Wraith and Kraken, the issue was Wraith could take the battle to the hunters in second state and it would be tilted in their favor. Kraken had to play with a lot more skill to take the hunters on in second stage.
@@thomassmith6673 I think ease of use is a factor here too.
If a skilled Kraken is just barely more difficult than an inexperienced Wraith, the Wraith will have the far greater impact on player base because anyone can pick it up and smack noobie hunters unchallenged.
@@joshbouman1654 To add to that, the issues with Evolved and Wraith started ON RELEASE. There wasn't a single skilled Kraken player on the entire server in week 1, when most of the Wraith's impact on the playerbase was had, so this doesn't really apply.
@@jackscott1218 I haven't played Evolve but I have played a ton of fighting games.
It's when the easiest character to play is overpowered that a game fundamentally breaks. Sagat in Vanilla SF4, Meta Knight in Brawl. For every 1 person who can dominate with the hyper technical, strategic character there will be 100 destroying people with the free win simple character.
The pantheon of Hallownest on all bindings was my greatest achievement in gaming
Sad that it made a top ten worst list for being a proper challenge lol. I’ll never beat it with all bindings, but that doesn’t make me think it’s bad just because I can’t do it. I just respect those who did, and move on.
Good for you, I’m still stuck on the 3rd (Zote being the road in the path)
What have you done with your life
@@joshuagleeson4776 The problem with P5 is not the challenge. It's the sheer amount of time you need to invest for every rematch. The lack of checkpoints doesn't even add challenge. The first 25 minutes of the pantheon are pathetically easy. I'm saying this as somebody who loves HK: P5's lack of checkpoints is bullshit.
@@juniperrodley9843 no, it's not bullshit. It's a boss rush. It's testing your consistency against every boss in the game when under pressure. If you're consistent enough to beat any given boss first try, then it will be a breeze.
After I beat the pantheon the first time (which took three total attempts), I replayed it a few times. I beat it in 4 of 5 reruns. Why? Because I was consistent with every boss in the game after practising the tricky ones in the hall of gods. As in, there wasn't a single boss that I was nervous about facing. That's the trick of a boss rush; the first half is easy, but as you inch closer to the end, the pressure on the player builds. If you're confident in your ability to blast every boss in the game, that pressure doesn't get to you as much.
I imagine if you hate a lack of checkpoints, you wouldn't be fan of games like Dead Cells lol.
Thank God, someone else realises how bad the Deathstroke boss is
Personally I don't fully agree with Laurence being that bad, but hey, to each their own
Laurence is admittedly an aggressive pick. And yes, I could've made an entire video ranting about how much that Deathstroke fight disappointed me
@@theDeModcracy I guess I'd sum up my feelings to Laurence as a fight that I like, not a fight that I think is objectively good
I think the Arkham Knight should have been in the list, they could have made the best boss battle in the entire series, instead, the decided to make it a stealth section bullshit, soo dissapointed 👎
Pretty much the whole Batman Arkham community hates the Deathstroke tank boss
@@Operation_Bagel for good reason
"No. 10: Laurence"
"Gehrman!!! Time to join the hunt!!!!"
I remember when I quit playing Evolve we air dropped in for the match and the Wraith hadn't left spawn just waited for us and won right at the start of the game lvl.1.
Arkham Knight was amazing, but Deathstroke was such a let down, especially since there were such amazing Deathstroke fights prior
For me Arkham Knight ist still the worst game of the series. It was still good though.
Deathstroke wasn't on Arkham knight????
@@blackiechan6078 he was
the worxt part is that it's not twoface or riddler or penguin you're fighting inside that tank but freaking deathstroke. the most deadliest assasin in the world with skills at batman level and a big arsenal of weapons ans he hides in a tank and the gets oneshotted by batman
@@Dr.JonathanCrane the sad part is that he can also take on Superhumans (big example is FUCKING SUPERMAN) in the comics (even without his new suit).
"The wraith gave the steeringwheel intot the hands of gamers... You cant trust players with that kind of power, they troll people into oblivion until all competition is dust" Humanity is flawed to the core.
It's not that deep, it's a competitive game
yeah, evolve is one of those games that I went back to and thought "wow this game looks like it had so much potential and effort put into it why the fuck is no one talking about it?". TBH I feel like doom eternals battlemode is actually the closest that a company has come to getting asymetric FPS games "right". unlike evolve who had a pretty linear power dynamic battle mode has a for lack of a better term very dynamic power dynamic. the shift in power changes second by second, one second the slayer is hot on your tail, burning you down. the next second the slayer is running for his life as you narrow down his options with different abilities and try to corner him. the arena is never big enough so as to make the game simply just hide and seek, but isn't small enough to make engagements feel extremely forced.
No Valus Ta’arc was definitely 90% of the matchmaking that’s why the Zavala line is a meme in destiny’s community.
Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one.
Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defences, take this beast out, and break their grip of Freehold.
You do have to agree that the theme that plays whenever you’re fighting the cabal (Valus being no exception) slaps. At least IMO
"Lawrence the first Vyecar" BRUH.
I thought it was an American pronunciation of vicar at first 😂
I honestly don't get how he made that mistake considering he was called out on that pronunciation years ago, acknowledged his mistake in a later video, and pronounced it normally for a long while after.
I was talking at my dad about Bloodborne and I mentioned vicar amelia and he god kinda mad at me for pronouncing it vick-are and told me it was vicker
Heard it, paused video, looked at comments to see if anyone else picked up on it, left this comment, *switches off video*
Honestly how long would it take to google search a word you don’t know... :/ especially with so many views
Goodness... I beat the pantheon of Hallownest after a staggering, MADDENING 70 hours. I'm at least glad to see that someone else shares my pain.
I got my friend into Hollow Knight, and when she got to Godhome, I BEGGED her to never play the Pantheon of Hallownest, and this is from a person who believes that with enough time, anyone can be good at just about anything. I may have brought myself to the top, but at what cost? I lost something that day. I'd still like to know what that is, if not my own sanity.
I truly believe that anyone can overcome any challenge in a game with enough time and effort. The time and effort they are asking of us is insane. Condolences for you sanity, my friend.
Lucky you.Took me a lot longer.
Tbh, I'm only really wanting to unlock pure vessel and absolute radiance in the boss room, so I can truly have beaten every boss in the game.
Problem is getting there....
I mean it's certainly difficult but it's not that difficult that you should tell someone to not even attempt it
Precisely why I never did it. I know I could eventually do it, but why? Why would I subject myself to fighting the same bosses over and over because of one mistake? I think the point Demod made about there being entirely new bosses only in that pantheon is sound. You literally would not be ready for the boss's moveset when you get to them the first time which greatly increases your chance of restarting. That Pantheon should have been all the bosses you had fought thusfar in the game, but then you unlock either another pantheon or a checkpoint that then had all the new bosses. That way you still have the gauntlet, but also are not cheated by having to start over because you haven't learned the new bosses yet.
In Hollow Knight, you can access the refight for any boss in a pantheon that you reached but didn't beat without doing the entire pantheon again.
Indeed. It is nice to get the practice in (it helped me for the final fight in Pantheon 4). Still rough to string together 1 perfect run for the fifth
@@theDeModcracy personally I disagree, I think the benefit of Ascended and Radiant boss versions (which boost the bosses damage) help you learn the best strategies to minimize damage. I agree, it doesn't guarantee success, but it's helped me reach a point where even the more difficult bosses (such as NKG and Pure Vessel) can be beaten with less than two hits consistently
@@theDeModcracy That's why it's the final thing in the game...
I beat it after a few tries. To be fair, it took long for me to beat Absolute Radiance consistently, but after I did (consistency as in beat him sometimes) i quickly did the panteon after.
@@primalaspid2843 BEGONE FOUL DEMON
I gotta say, pantheon of hollownest has been one of my favorite video game challenges I've played. If you want a challenging finale boss fight with stakes higher than they ever have been before, then this is exactly what you look for. My stress has never been higher on Pantheon 5 and after hollow knight having many tough bosses, I wouldn't want the game to end any other way. I think its like asking a game like dark souls to make a hidden boss a little easier in order to make more people see the ending. Removing the difficulty lessens the rewarding feeling you get when you can finally grit through it and overcome the challenge.
my issue with it is that they lock 2 whole endings behind it meaning that the majority of people will never see those endings in the game.
Git gud
@@Gastro-enterite-en-imax already have, since then I’ve completed it and finally managed to kill anyrad. I got gud :)
I love this game
@@stanz47 not you of course i mean the one that commented on your comment
1:36
That transition was so smooth my butter melted.
Time to trigger... Laurence is one of my favorite bosses in Bloodborne
Good to know I'm not the only one.
Fantastic boss with the best soundtrack in the series, also one of my favourites
I wouldn't say fantastic,but not as bad for as for everyone else. 7/10 for me.
Jannis Schaefer Exactly. The fact he is in this video is ridiculous.
Personally I think he's a good fight ONLY on NG. NG+ onwards he just becomes an unenjoyable chore
I remember playing the Alpha release for Evolve at comic con in Australia. I was so hyped and excited that i convinced 6 of my friends to get it. Within about a month or so i became the 10th best support character in all Australia leader board and 69th globally (friends were roughly the same for their classes).
When the wraith came out we just got destroyed. It got to the point where as soon as it showed you that you went up against it, nearly everyone would back out to save what he said in the video. I tried but it got worse and i never went back
*rocking back and forth in a corner* PLEASE DON'T HURT ME MILTANK
Daddy Miltank is going to roll all over you!
PokeLawyer: Show me on this doll where the cow rolled you.
I’m surprised Laurence was even considered for the list
I hate Laurence so much. Feels hard in a way that is simply bull shit. Not good mechanics.
Adam Lloyd lmao, I hate to boast, well, I don’t, but I’ve only fought him once, and only beaten him once.
Seeing the footage from the video can explain why that happened. Laurence is an anti-bootyslapping boss
Just wanna say. In the entire soulsborne games, i had only two bosses left. Midir and Laurence. After hours trying with Laurence i came to the point of having him two or three hits away and plenty of healing, but i was one shot by an attack i somehow had never seen before or managed to avoid every time (It was like a fire explosion). So i gave up on my pride and summoned two other people, and we beat him. I was still happy to see that piece of shit die.
Now i'll keep trying with Midir. May have to summon too.
IKR people are butthurt AF
My experience with evolve and the wraith are one of tragedy, i was a highschooler who preorder the game AND the dlc, and was super stoke for this atypical gaming format and unique skill vs power fantasy. The wraith though on launch, while was my most preferred fighting style in diversion and bursting, compared to krakens long range kiting and goliaths brute forcing. i quickly had to ban MYSELF from playing the wraith because i had a near undefeated winning streak over 40plus games. The wraith power was cool initially but even i understood the toxicity of its power when i saw myself wait for 10min queues to a brand new game. Not mention the times when i took to the hunters side and felt the same level of brutality I was dishing out. I loved evolve and the wraith for what it was. But I HATE them for what they did. It only made more more frustrated down the line when i learn that this mistake was never fixed fast enough because the publisher/ producer forced turtle rock to not quick patch the game, instead holding any changes for major updates/dlc drops. Evolve was a unnecessary tragedy of the gaming industry whos only redeeming quality is its inspiration to others on the gameplay format.
I had so much trouble fighting Laurence, throwing myself at him multiple times, even with help, and failing to even get him to second phase because of all the BS.
And then what I can only assume was a hacker joined my game, three shotted him, and peaced out. Now...I don't condone hacking normally.....but I will forever love that man.
I wouldn't say 3 shots but he is a fucking pushover with the whirligig saw + a str build!! I just melted him in my friend's game a few weeks ago lol. Doing about 1/4 of his HP with 1 stamina bar :P
The point of the fifth pantheon in HK is sort of to have an "all bosses" boss rush so the checkpoint system would lessen the whole point. I think it is intentionally "too hard" because of lore reasons
That's a good point. I still would argue there's room for a middle ground, even if it would force the narrative to bend a bit.
@@theDeModcracy i can agree with that. I must say i lost a couple nights of sleep, and didn't enjoy bashing my head against the brick wall that is absrad (allthough i am very lucky to have discovered that you don't need to kill her to face her in the hall of gods)
theDeModcracy If you ever need to practice the hard bosses, there’s something called the hall of gods in which you can practice bosses you faced in the pantheons on normal difficulty or harder ones to get better at the bosses
Loved the rush fighting all the bosses. Didn't like thee face that they walled off one ending cutscene behind a bosh rush that many players would never complete though.
I just beat the pantheon for the first time a few hours ago actually. I loved it. Sure Absolute Radiance is terrible at first, but once I practiced him enough it wasn't too bad.
“So how about you add some gym leaders to the list?”
DeMod: “oh that’s a great idea”
“Ok which ones do you want?”
DeMod: “Yes”
Are you still saying vi-car for the memes?
I thought the thumbnail meant Deathstroke from Origins but Knight makes more sense.
Me too
When I saw the Deathstroke battle on here, I shouted "YES".
I love the Arkham games but Arkham Knight's heavy reliance on using the Batmobile for EVERYTHING really prevents me from wanting to replay it 😅
I recently replayed it and got insanely good with batmobile and its mechanics. The game thrown on highest difficulty actually makes the deathstroke fight a little challenging and more enjoyable, even though by that point you've spent about 20 hours in it, when you use everything you've learned it can be fun
Didn't even see the video but calling it now: bed of chaos at number 1
I think Bed of Chaos ist actualy a good boss. It just happened to land in the wrong game.
Close: number 4
Jannis Schaefer I honestly like it more than 4 kings and Neto because 4 kings is just a garbage DPS test where you ether kill the kings quickly or get yanked on by 7 with their easy to doge moves while Neto’s only semblance of difficulty comes from him possy of skeletons that distract you from the the fact that his attacks are so easy to Dagon and slow they make the covetous daemon look like orphan of kos at least bed of chaos can be betten relatively fast with you maintaining your progress Sith is okay though
Yes,Bed of Chaos is superior in terms of design.
The bed of chaos is a pretty good Mario boss
“If Zorah Magdaros reaches the barrier, all is LOOOOOOST!!”
Godzilla is approaching the Generator. The Generator is losing power. Godzilla is approaching the Generator. The Generator is losing power. Godzilla is approaching the Generator. The Generator is losing power.
deals 1/50th of the barriers hp with one fire breath
ZORAH MAGDAROS IS NO WHERE NEAR WEAK ENOUGH!
*it dies after 4 more ballista shots*
Arguably the Nergigante that spawns halfway into the brawl is harder than the rest of the fight
@popocot popocot on the arch tempered zorah you have to actually repel the nergigante
Demodcrazy: ...the signature monster in the game
Nergi: Am I a joke to you?
Unlike zorah i actually love nergigante
Bad boss rankings exist
Bed of chaos doesn't win
*visible confusion*
Wouldn’t be a worst boss list without bed of chaos
I personally love the pantheon of hollownest, it really makes you feel so much stronger when you're able to beat every single boss in the game without breaking a sweat. For the last three you just have to practice in the hall of gods until you feel confident enough that you can beat them in one try, it rewards mastery of the game, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Yeah POH is great
would agree, but markoth alone makes the whole pantheon feel frustrating
It's such a shame that Wraith was so broken. I love stealthy characters that hit hard. Then comes the point where I feel _bad_ for playing a character that I genuinely just love as a concept because it's so one-sided.
I was so overjoyed when you said Laurence. I adored fighting Ludwig and Orphan, despite the fact they kicked my ass into the cosmos and back repeatedly. But Laurence absolutely infuriated me. Know that I know how to cheese Micolash, I can honestly say that Laurence is the only non-chalice dungeon boss I truly despise. I'm so relieved that it's not just me.
My thoughts exactly. Ludwig is my favourite boss in the game, and, even though he was kicking me into the dirt, I never felt mad when fighting Orphan. Micolash is alright if you know where to chase him. Laurence, on the other hand, genuinely just infuriated me every moment I was fighting him, and when I finally killed him, instead of "yay, I killed him!" it was "thank god that bitch is finally dead".
In short, fuck laurence, other bosses good
Laurence took me a LONG time to learn, but I love fighting him now. Knowing his combos and dashing in between his swipes is so much fun. You need to play differently for all three phases, most of my deaths were not adjusting my play style once his moveset swaps up for the first time at 70% health when he swaps up combos for belly flops. Last phase at 40% is always super intense for me but I never die to it. Its always the middle phase that kills me. Favorite Soulsborne boss!
7:10 This is exactly how it is to do Fight Caves for the first time in Old School Runescape. The Inferno is even longer, some insane dedication is needed there
Im surprised Didact from Halo 4 wasn’t in here...
Although it HARDLY even a boss fight to begin with 🗿
Warden Eternal from Halo 5 was way worse imo since you actually had to fight him. Laziest designed boss I've had the displeasure of fighting in recent memory, and you had to do so multiple times throughout the already terrible campaign.
@@perrytran9504 Didact was bad for not being a fight and being a button press. Warden Eternal was fucking awful for being the ONLY fight and 7 times.
I just think he forgot about it. I know I did
@@BallinBubblegumI think Halo 5 just wasn't worth discussing to him. He said he wanted to focus on bad bosses in games which were otherwise generally good (which Halo 5's campaign wasn't be it from a lore or gameplay perspective.)
Perry Tran fair enough. Not going to lie. 5 is the only halo game I’ve never played 4 was so bad I stopped caring
I really like how untraditional this list was in terms of choices. The explanations for each did well to justify the placement of most of the entries on here, and were entertaining on top of that.
5th pantheon was one of the greatest gaming experience i ever had. So challenging but i was screaming in my room when i finished it. And being in the 1% of gamers makes you feel so satisfied
Honestly feel like Evolve was ahead of it's time. Yeah it had balancing issues, but if it came out today in the free-to-play format ala fortnite and apex legends, I feel like it would have a massive following. Because despite it's flaws, the game and the mechanics felt good, and was really fun to play.
@FREDRICK ADAMKIEWICZ Wasn't there a horrendous amount of DLC at launch too? Something like 140$ worth of it lol...
Nah - it would die very fast again. Their MAIN problem was locking the most powerful monsters behind DLC on DAY 1 for a 60$ GAME.......
Couldn't agree more with HK's pantheon. I don't like it when a game takes my time for granted or, worse yet, wastes it for no good reason. It's a shame because the new bosses were quite enjoyable, but killing some of them for the nth time ended up spoiling the whole experience. Hope they change it with Silksong.
Hollow knight's world, lore, and nearly everything in it is very accessible to I would say most of the gaming community, despite the game being hard to get into. The pantheon of hallownest is misunderstood I think. It was not designed to be completed by everybody, it was not designed to be a part of the core gaming experience, the whole godmaster update was a side track of storytelling. The pantheon of hallownest was not about the fancy end cutseen or the bosses it had. It was made to be completed only by 1.4% of the players. You had to master every single boss in the game to near perfection with no exception and push your limits to levels the game normally wouldn't. The reward was spiritual. Not some fancy charm or some lore stuff the fact that you proved yourself to be one of the most skilled people in the community. You are not going to do it without dedication, as it will instantly punish anyone with the "imma doing this real quick" mentality. Sometimes you have to have a part like this.
And I am proud for team cherry by making it. Why? because it is not part of the core experience. If you were forced to do it to finish the game then yeah it sucks ass it devours your time with each attempt does not let you play the game normally delete this shit.... But if you look at the game map, it is well hidden, is a last part of the last dlc content entirely based around boss rush and it gives you that special feeling IF you try it, pump the time into it, and succeed at it. Then the story is entirely different.
But I might be overthinking it and have just enjoyed the 30 hours suffering because I also happen to like super meat boy, celeste, the end is nigh and geometry dash, who knows.
Maaaan, when the game says you completed 100% of it, it means you won. No one asks you to try and drill the 112% if you just do not have the skill and perseverance to become an absolute master at the game. And I think that's apparent just from the fact Team Cherry hid the challenge away from the main line of the game; the same goes for Path of Pain.
I'm just surprised Demodcracy bitches around about it, didn't think he'd be that kind of a casual...
@@volmutik4063 I have the platinum, doesn't mean that I liked it. The bosses themselves were great, but asking me to sit through 40 bosses that I've already cleared plenty of times is not my idea of fun. There's plenty of ways of making something challenging without making it inconvenient.
"Vicar" is pronounced to rhyme with "wicker" btw
That kalamett transition tho
Oh God Wraith being no.1 just bought me some PTSD flashbacks. It's like they came up with a good monster concept, and then sucked out all the balance out of it.
I am actually confused about this. Why they didn't release patches to balance the wraith? The beauty of post-production support is you can fix issues you have after you launch the game. What the crap happened with this game?
I played evolve and loved most of it but whenever there was a wraith I knew that my team was gonna get wrecked. It was doomed to fail even without the wraith due to its insane amount of dlc. 2K was taking a page out of EA’s book when they made evolve apparently.
Fighting Laurence was like being stuck in a loop of having my family jewels smashed repeatedly by a sledgehammer.
shadow of mordor last boss was very disappointing, "having quick time events to kill the final boss" worst decision ever...
Same goes for Dying Light and Metal Gear Rising.
Halo 4
I've always really like Laurence the first vicar, while he could have been better, but I always thought the cleric beast could have been very fun, but it was too easy, so when they made a harder cleric beast with some extra moves and mechanics with a new phase, I was happy. And I had fun mastering the difficult boss
Josuke: the demodcracy hates laurence, no dignity
I miss Evolve so much. It was so flawed, but damn it was amazing if you had a good match. I loved playing Goliath as a monster. It felt so good able to take on hunters. But stage 1 I was weak, fragile. I had to dodge them, crawl, make sure I didn't leave footprints, juke them if they did find me, don't alert the birds and so on. Using your senses to make sure they're not on your ass.
It was such thrilling gameplay when it all went right. What a game, what a loss, what a disaster. But i'll always love it.
I always liked the goliath better. That moment when you snipe someone with the rock.
Literally never heard anyone pronounce "Vicar" that way 😂😂😢
"Personally as long as I feel the L's I'm taking are my fault more often than not I can crack away all day"
Ooh god I remember the artorias weapon randomizer and the amount of attempts you had before giving up to try again later
"#8 Pantheon of Hallownest"
Aaahh! Flashbacks!
PTSD
Just did path of pain only to die at two buffed up gaurds
For me its Shadow of Mordor final boss, imagine spent hours leveling up your character only to end up fighting the final boss with QTE.
True I’d also place botws 5 paint ganons as worse than 3 imprisons that atleast would grow new limbs each fight.
Jup thought exactly the same!
Halo 4 as well
I like quick time events
@@firenze6478 you talkin about the different Divine Beast bosses? They were all different, with different move sets and designs. I personally really enjoyed those fights, especially in the Champions Ballad, as it was just using what you got instead of farming or getting crazy weapons.I know that your comment is a year old so this may seem out of the blue.
Thank you for mentioning Pantheon of Hallownest. It pissed me off so much that the final ending was locked behind that enormous waste of time. I respect the work that went into Godmaster but it actually made the game worse to me.
Just don't play it then. It's incredibly fun for those skilled enough to complete it.
Jake Read yeah they made it way to hard for average players like me it's terrible and a waste of time.
@HeheCult I don't know who that is but it just takes practice, just like you said. I think people should just persevere and if they are not enjoying it, go play something else. No harm there. Let others enjoy the challenge then.
@@uhhhhhhhhhh1408 then don’t do it, it’s optional extra content, you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to.
Truly a travesty they put a very short cutscene behind what is meant to be a challenge that gives nothing and is purely meant to be fun for the people who like the games combat, it’s almost as though if u are not good enough u could look it up on TH-cam
As one of those 1.4% that has completed the Pantheon of Hallownest...
It really can bite me. I still feel like I only beat the final boss of the pantheon through sheer luck... and spite to beat it before Silksong's released.
"Pantheon of Hallownest"
Me: *WHEEEEZE*
I loved it. It feels good to overcome such a challenge and see videos like this calling it one of the worst ‘bosses’ (?) of the year. It honestly even isn’t that bad. There’s only like 6 bosses that have a chance to end your run, so just practice those until they’re easy lol.
it's not even a boss
@@joshuagleeson4776 is it extremely hard? Yes, absolutely. That doesn't make it impossible.
If you're going for 100% (true 100%) you're comited, the difficulty will just make you determined
@Cavalo Niilista do Diabo I would agree, but locking significant lore and an ending behind it with no options for the benches to work was just bad design. It's seriously way too fuckin difficult.
The wheeze of a grubby no life sweat
I only partly agree with the Pantheon of Hallownest pick. I love the challenge behind it, even if it takes as long as it does. It makes completing it feel incredibly rewarding, which would've been ruined by your bench suggestion. What I disliked about it though, was how some fights were so easy in comparison that they didn't contribute anything to that feeling of accomplishment.
However some of the criticism is just wrong: The only boss you get locked out of, if you're not ready for this, is Absolute Radiance though you can always do just usual Radiance. Besides that you can find every single boss in every variant in Godhome once you have said Pantheon unlocked. That way you can also easily get some reps in for hard bosses, so having to do the whole runback is to die repeatedly at one boss really is the players fault for not practicing it.
Heck, you can even practice for Absolute Radiance after you die to it once during the Pantheon. It's pretty obvious you aren't gonna beat a painstaking gauntlet like that first try and you are a fool if you think you will be able to or are supposed to.
I see you were a Masochist since 8 cause I don't know a single person who smiles while fighting milktank
How you described Laurence made him sound more like a difficult boss rather than a bad one. But throwing the fire in definitely ruins it
I actually love Laurence. He, Orphan and Defiled Watchdog are my favourite Bloodborne bosses.
Can't say my opinion on the dlc bosses since I haven't fought them but I hate Watchdog. He in my opinion has some of the worst hitboxes in the game along with his massive damage output and high health. I'll admit he looks awesome and the fight is pretty epic but his technical problems are annoying
@@svartrbrisingr6141 I do now like watchdog, but i think that was some form of stockholm syndrome, begrudgingly repeating the boss over and over again, something suddenly clicked and i began to understand and like it. now i can mostly do the boss without getting hit (kinda have to tbh, so most people probably can)
if you ever have the oppurtunity to, i highly recommend the DLC, one of the best gaming experiences ive ever gone through
@@kelakogreenaddict1888 have thought of it but I prioritize new games over dlc. I'll get more hours out of a new game then dlc for a game I've played a lot. Not to mention half a terabyte of storage were 80% is system limits my game choices
When are we going to get more boss breakdowns? I absolutely loved those. Love this new series too, can't wait for best bosses of the decade.
I should bring it back. It's been on the back-burner because I have a bad habit of starting to many series at once. We'll see how things rollout in the new year. Decade lists and Top 100 are the first priorities!
Zorah Magdaros seems like it was supposed to be a update to Jhen Mohran, which was a fun boss because you were forced to fight it in a party. There were tons of different ways to approach the monster, even though the fight was unorthodox and used the cannons, ballistae, etc. Zorah takes that formula and makes it a centerpiece of the story mode, and most players fight him solo. It's miserable.
NOT THE WRAITH... WHY DID YOU JUST HAAAAAVVVEEE TO REMIND ME!!! AHHHHHH....
I was ready to throw hands about Deathstroke until I remembered Knight.
I've seen way too many comments moaning about how he "just put the Pantheon of Hallownest on the list cause he wants it to be easy". I'd like to explain why this is incorrect.
Nobody wants it to be easy. People just don't have the time. Think about it: how many people have tens of hours that they're both able and willing to spend refighting the same 40 bosses just cause they died against one of the few genuine challenges of the Pantheon? Not many. I love Hollow Knight's most challenging fights. You know what I don't love? The non-challenging ones. And you know what makes up the entire first half hour of P5?
The non-challenging ones.
i guess its just supposed to be the big end fight so of course it demands dedication
But you dont practice the few challenging ones in the Pantehon but in the Hall of Gods i personally failed it 3 Times and then finished it because i practiced the ones that gave me trouble induvidually
i like laurence, change my mind
I tried for 3 minutes. But different strokes for different folks. I can easily see why someone would like Laurence, even if I don't.
Really good ideas for Hollow Knight. I love the game but didn't even attempt the boss runs bc they're ridiculous. Benches as checkpoints would actually lead me to play it and keep trying for better times!
Hollow knight: includes a boss rush mode to present a challenge to top tier players, and includes a substantial reward for completing it. Casuals: *high pitch screeching because they demand to be catered to, and spoonfed easy wins*
Yeah including the fifth pantheon on this list isn’t very classy. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how it is designed. If you die in the pantheon then you’re not good enough yet and don’t deserve to beat it. Casuals are just butthurt that better players are rewarded for the skill while they won’t bother putting in the time to get better lol. It’s literally a boss rush. Making the benches checkpoints would dilute the challenge and make it less rewarding for actually skilled players. Thank fuck they made it a real challenge, and not some pussy ass participation medal for the purposes of ‘mUh aCCesSiBIliTy.’
It's not too hard, it just takes too long. Why do people find this so difficult to grasp? Is it because you're too busy calling people casuals for having lives outside of this game? I love Hollow Knight and I absolutely fucking adore the hardest bosses in it (and the Path of Pain, but it's not a boss). However, I just don't have time to waste retreading 40 bosses every time I fail to beat one of the few actual challenges in the Pantheon.
The imprisoned? Take that back
Edit: Wraith? You earn my respect back. I was a top monster player for a while, mostly goliath, pre-ordered it enjoyed it a ton
How could you possibly defend the imprisoned?
Ghdfshhs 5 paint ganons exist in botw
Is that a reference I'm not understanding? Is he just mispronouncing it or is it a joke of some kind?
@@alienplatypus7712 I think he means a mispronounciation. It's actually pronounced Vick-ur
Alien Platypus it’s pronounced vicker, and someone had made a point of that awhile ago and he even mentioned it in one of his boss ranking lists, so he’s well aware of the fact it’s pronounced vicker but still pronounces it vyecar to annoy people
V-eye-car?
I know this all to well because I have a dickhead Vicar as one of my neighbors...
The only thing with a bigger health pool than Laurence are the hunter npcs.
13:22 oh god, the flashback hahahaha
Putting Laurence on this list is completely bizarre.
I think he is on that list because he was one of the most important lore characters. So he deserved way better, plus a dialog maybe.
@@paulrayne6602 agreed
Laurence is easily the worst boss of Bloodborne, he's still ok, I mean, he's not great but not that bad either, still the worst boss of his game.
His lore is awesome and the music that plays when fighting him is really good at reflecting it. The fight itself is straight ass though.
@@theravenmonarch9441 I agree with you to sone certain extent but this is a liat of worst bosses of the decade. So many games and bosses have been really if not extremely bad so for Laurence to be here is kind of controversial. Yes I agree that FROMSOFTWARE did not do justice to this boss whose existence is mentioned throughout whole game but still in my opinion is far from being on this list.
In defense of the Pantheon, there is.a way to fight all the bosses (except Absolute Radiance) without even touching the Pantheon of Hallownest. The Hall of Gods is a practice area where you can fight any of the bosses in any order, with varying difficulty settings, so you can learn attacks patterns and optimize charm loadouts.
You can't fight Sisters of Battle and Winged Nosk withou P5 tho
@@thecumcrusader1990 Yeah you can get to their boss fights then practice them. Though Markoth is just incredibly unfair
"...or Bed of Chaos"
Bed of Chaos is Dark Souls of Bad Bosses?
Me: hmmm just watched someone speed run ds1r.
Also me: what’s next? Lost Izalith? **** no
5mins later: how to skip all lord bosses and speedrun.
I just watched that AGDQ run too, blew my mind.