I Finally Get What Paper Mario Fans have been Saying All This Time | The Thousand Year Door
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Growing up I've played a majority of the games in the Paper Mario series, although I never really went in depth or finish any of them outside of the origami king. Online, I've seen fans praise the original games for being amazing RPG's and the newer games just can't hold a candle to the earlier games. Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami king received good reviews from critics, but fans not so much. Guess Nintendo is listening and remade The Thousand Year Door for the Nintendo Switch. Now that I've played everything the game had to offer, I finally understand why OG fans want this style to return to the series. Bring Back Unique Allies like Goombella, Bobbery and Vivian. New Locations in the series, and the intricate battle system. With Super Mario RPG, Thousand Year Door, and a new Mario & Luigi game releasing on Switch, Mario RPG fans are living the dream.
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If you think the remake has too much backtracking you should see the original game. That pipe room just isnt there.
I just found that out, that sounds horrible. That warp room was so nice to have I never thought it was added for the remake.
@@SquiggyThere’s also other changes in some of the chapters like adding a warp pipe to Creepy Steeple that wasn’t in the original
@@bluerious5475 A spring in Keelhaul Key and only needing to sleep once post-Chapter 6 to get from Rougeport to Poshley Heights on the train.
i like it either way
You can only imagine the pain involving White's BS when going in blind
This is what Paper Mario should be, build upon on these mechanics and design philosophies.
At least remaking this would bring them back to their roots and actually make a new and proper Paper Mario game. They were so laser focus on the donts they didnt look at the dos. Funny that Miyamoto saying "Dont use new species" meant for them "Only Toads". He probably didnt like the new species that were created in Super Paper Mario.
TTYD is the best battle system hands down. I still own my original copy of the game, and I cherish it immensely
After the remake got announced I went searching for my copy, luckily still in great condition.
@@Squiggy Good to hear it's in good condition! You can't get a copy of the original without dealing with scalpers, because the game is just so old
For me TTYD is not only the best battle system of Paper Mario, or of Mario RPG games; it's the best system for RPGs in general that I've played. Specially the badge system. It lets me play the way I want, using self-imposed challenges like "what if I can't use these badges, but do these instead?", then I have to adapt my strategies. Plus, the small countable numbers are so much better than other RPGs. I can truly optimize my plays and I love it! Perfect RPG = plenty of strategy + decent amount of action + sprinkle of luck.
Sure I may be biased, as someone who 100% N64 Paper Mario 4 times.
Mine was a gift from a dear friend who moved away that I will treasure always. The Story is also incredible although I don't feel like explaining how it rivals Super Paper Mario in quality at the moment.
@@WaterKirby1994the Paper Mario community has a love/hate relationship with SPM as a whole, but it's almost unanimous that the story is the best in the entire series
I'm glad to see this video exist. I hope to see this sentiment expand within the newer fanbase.
One of the best aspects of TTYD is the lives of the residents of Rogueport. As you go through the chapters you watch a broken family of Toads repair their relationship. Podley once had a relationship with Eve in Twilight Town. You can even talk to Lahla and learn her interests and dreams for the future.
That was what personally converted me into a full-fledged TTYD fan in my playthrough-the unique and often touching stories and lives of all these NPCs who have zero significance in the greater scope of the story. It shows how devoted they were to building a charming and immersive world to fall in love with!
The game had surprisingly interesting/realistic lines in there, too. Not sure if that was purged from the english version (especially the remake, given what I've heard), but, at least in the more accurate french translation (original, can't speak for the remake), Goombella had a line (Tattle?) at the Casino that went something like "It having female customers makes the place feel safer, in a way".
If you’re desperate for more Paper Mario combat, you should try Bug Fables! It definitely scratches that itch while also having a cute and enjoyable adventure with strong characters.
Also I’m glad newcomers are finally seeing why TTYD is so great! Hope Nintendo notices!
Bug Fables is honestly a better Paper Mario game than even Paper Mario. Absolute fantastic game, cannot recommend it hard enough, it takes everything TTYD did great and innovates further to the point of becoming one of the best RPGs ive ever played.
I heard of bug fables, honestly after TTYD, I really should pick that up. I know Limited Run Games made physical copies so maybe I try to find one online. (I'm big on owning physical copies of games)
I will say, there are a lot of PM inspired indie games out there. They've even did a video announcing them. Definitely look into finding them.
Why do you never hear about the other Classic Paper Mario inspired indie games? I can't be the only person aware of this fact that only Bug Fables ever gets any acknowledgement! Can you list some of the others as I have heard BF recommended hundreds of times yet I haven't heard of the others before.
Bug Fables is one of my all-time favorites, I love it so much.
Nice to see some newer fans understanding why we loved the og's so much now :)
16:56 i can hear the "hear me out" so badly here XD
The resurgence of the Goombella simping was a great side effect of the remake
Imagine if they somehow bring back both Goombella and Goombario and the game casually drops the info that they just so happen to be dating. I would go nuts!!
It would be great to have an actual cameo like Lady Bow (the best 64 partner by far) did in TTYD.
Professor Goombella would be a sight to behold.
I think what has kind of stung all this time is this is really the only franchise they're treating this way. Yes Nintendo does change things up pretty drastically in some ways, but mainline 2D Mario is always going to be platforming to a flag, 3D Mario is always going to be a star collectathon, Zelda is always going to be a lone-hero action adventure game, etc. But Paper Mario just hasn't had a firm identity for a while. Is it a turn based RPG? Is it a sidescroller? Is it a collectathon? Does it involve platforming? Does Mario have a party of unique friends? You can't really tell from the sum of the series' games at this point. It was best when it had a strong identity, and I hope it goes back to that identity soon. It was pretty special.
Honestly it will be a bigger disappointment than Sticker Star if they make another Paper Mario not in this style after the success of the remake.
@@impachoblue1301 With Nintendo bringing back Mario and Luigi in November after already doing this and the Super Mario RPG remake, I’m feeling hopeful that they’ll lean more to this for the next paper Mario game.
I'm betting on it. Nintendo certainly likes to succeed in reverse sometimes.
You can’t make a disappointment worse than Sticker Star, it’s too low.
@@leonmystique9372 That should tell you how disappointed I would personally be.
@@leonmystique9372sticker star is a worse game but I honestly think origami king is a bigger disappointment. If that makes any sense
Glad you understand our frustration (for 20 years mind you) and elation of finally beating getting it remastered.
I am absolutely in love with this remake. Not even halfway through, I knew I'd be replaying it. Also, I got a Pink Yoshi- missed the first interval, but it loops every 20 minutes so I just waited 36 total to be safe and named him Luigi
Me replaying the remake made me realize how much I love Madame Flurrie, I loved having her in my party at all times just hearing what she had to say, I absolutely adore her personality. she is a queen you rock on Flurrie.
Super Mario RPG if you haven’t played is what the Paper Mario games were the spiritual successor to. It has the action command prompts too for attacking and defending, has a story that gives a few twists (I don’t recall another game prior to it that had friendly npcs that were goombas, koopas, etc). All sorts of hidden stuff, and while overall it’s a smaller game it’s still worth checking out.
100% Super Mario RPG last year, amazing game too. That and TTYD back to back were so good to play. Only thing I was miserable during Super was getting 100 consecutive jumps with Mario...... I did it but it hurt getting 98/99 only to mess up at the end.
Honestly, I am very excited to see where Modern Paper Mario 4 can go. They really sharpened the "many memorable moments"-style of the modern games by the time of Origami King(I mean, just look at all the ways Mario can just die brutally for instance, lmao. That certainly left an impression), while this remake has proven that the old elements are still in demand and the fanbase isn't just capping. If they decide to combine the two, we could have the greatest Mario RPG ever on our hands.
TTYD combat with TOK's overworld goes hard
@@enderallygolemthat honestly sounds incredible, and if they keep the art style used in the remake, I can only imagine how good it would look (TOK’s art style is also fantastic, but the remake really nailed the balance between the old and new styles imo)
Pink Yoshi named Kirby
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 Poyo
poyo
Pink Yoshi named
I admit I'm a little surprised you didn't delve much into the "stage play" style and especially the audience interaction of TTYD's battle system compared to the original 64's.
While you do get some points for Special Moves for doing well on action commands, interacting with the audience by doing stylish moves and appealing gives you more. It adds an extra layer to the combat that I've yet to see elsewhere, even more so when some bosses interact with them, too (like Hooktail eating them to heal once).
@@phoenix5029 yeah you’re right I should’ve gone more into detail with the audience mechanic. I love the theatre aesthetic, and filling more of the meter with stylish moves is always fun to do. Also like how the theatre will upgrade ever so often when Mario reached a high level.
@@Squiggy considering the engaging story, the character variety, and the stuff to do for fun in this game, the battle system not being one-note is a cherry on top by comparison.
It does keep the experience fresh, though, especially with the new Glitz Pit superboss (not spoiling for those unaware) basically being a hard skill check on superguarding.
@@phoenix5029 Gonna be honest here, I didn't know superguard was a thing til that fight. If the game mentioned it early on, I probably thought it was the standard guard action, I eventually got it, not by skill but luck haha.
@@Squiggy to be fair, the only time this TTYD exclusive skill ever gets mentioned, is in the tutorial with Professor Franky... and chances are, a majority of folks who played other Paper Mario Games will have skipped his explanation.
main reason I really remember it was predominantly because it's been awhile since I zoned out at Sticker Star, so I chose to get a refresher.
Idk how they released TTYD and said: lets literally never use this system again.
Insane
It's moment like these where I could believe that Intelligent Systems doesn't have internet access.
How else does one miss universal praise?
@@VonFirflirchSuper Paper Mario was originally a spin-off, Sticker Star was gonna have a similar gameplay to TTYD before they turned the game to trash.
@@Nonantement
Don't worry, I knew about these.
@@VonFirflirch Great!
I loved Super Paper Mario for its story,
I couldn't even bring myself to play the last 3 games, I'm at least thankful they made the TTYD remake, I hope the next game delivers on what Sticker Star should have been.
I also played TTYD having not played the original. I already knew most of what was coming, but experiencing the story and characters firsthand was such a fun experience, and the climactic ending was the best. With the influx of Mario RPGs we’ve been getting, I really hope Nintendo takes a hint and makes more peak 🙏
Also I got a Black Yoshi, and named him Dash (bc that’s what he does lol) 😎
@@phoenixandy I’m still losing my mind over Mario & Luigi coming back, possible game of the year for me not gonna lie.
@@Squiggy best part for me is that it comes out a few days for my birthday 😎
Absolutely cannot wait for Brothership
I would genuinely lose my shit if Nintendo remade Super Paper Mario, that game is so peak
I'd play it
I’d also play it
Same here, hopefully it does come to switch
I loved the TTYD remake and I had a pink Yoshi named Kirby
Best ally is either Bobbery or Vivian
The gameplay was… different. Not bad per se but the story. The story was incredible. To be fair, it is a story that just so happens to include the Mario gang and quite literally didn’t need them but it was still great nonetheless.
That game is fucking trash 😂😂😂😂😂
Black Yoshi, I named him Dashell to honor Super Paper Mario which will hopefully one day get a remake. And my favorite partner is Vivian it pretty much always has been.
I kept the honored tradition of naming my yoshi Segway and he came out pink this time.
@@Tneal78 Nice, I have a somewhat “tradition” where if I get a partner in a game I’ll name them Neppy. Like my Eevee in Pokémon games, and my horse in Red Dead Redemption 2
I took the Black Yoshi and named him Joshua
That's my name!
Also I got a white yoshi unintentionally and named him gonzo!
1:51 It's worth mentioning that Bowser being the main antagonist in Mario RPGs isn't necessarily a bad thing, the problem with Sticker Star is that it gave him no personality whatsoever. My memory is fuzzy (because the game isn't memorable) but I'm almost sure he has zero lines of dialogue in the whole thing. He's practically just a wall, an obstacle for you to get through to complete the game. For this to happen 3 years after Bowser's Inside Story (arguably his peak as a character) is just extra salt in the wound. He spends most of TTYD being a comic relief side character who has very little to do with the main story, and even _here_ he gets more focus and comes across as more threatening than he ever does in Sticker Star. Dunno about Color Splash because I never played that one, even as one of the 28 Wii U owners.
Also, white Yoshi, named Gin-chan.
He does not say a single word in the entire game.
Bowser is completely mute, and Peach is pretty much the same too. While all three previous Paper Mario gave them fun dialogues and personality, this feels like a terrible downgrade. They're flatter than flat.
White yoshi. Named him Milk
Fantastic video. Happy to be a Mario RPG fan atm. Can't wait to get my hands on TTYD remake. Edit: Forgot to say, the original TTYD didn't have that warp room, you used to have to walk back everywhere to backtrack. 😅
@@BlekPowers no way…. I knew about stuff like the added spring on the island to skip the platforming bit. That’s crazy that wrap room wasn’t originally there.
Well.. that's not entirely true. There were still pipes to other locations but it was only for chapters 1, 2, 5 and 6.
@@rinn5238 ohhhhhhhh ok gotcha
Glad you got to enjoy such an amazing game. Great video summarizing the beloved (and a couple less so) parts of TTYD.
Blue Yoshi named "Lil Gonz" for Little Gonzales ~
My yoshi was red and I called him Hikari after the character from Octopath Traveler 2 😊
@@V1G4M1 I played a little of the first octopath, I heard good things about the sequel, probably should play that too.
@@Squiggy I definitely strongly recommend either of the OT games!
Hikari came to mind because the red-black colour scheme matched. Also, he‘s the warrior of the second game, who has the sparring ability, so it felt fitting :D
My favorite partner was Goombella.
I got the white Yoshi and named him Cyrus.
I loved the Waluigi outfit and used for the rest of my playthrough.
Reaching 100% completion was fun, challenging, and satisfying.
Couldn’t care less about the 30fps.
Music, Battle, Story made this game a magical experience.
Peak and GOTY.
Prior to this, my only experience with Paper Mario was Super for the Wii. And While not a bad game, I didn't find it clicking with me all too well (softlocking my save file was probably to do with it). TTYD on the other hand is an absolute masterpiece that I could not agree more with the hype train on. It may not be perfect (whenever the enemies had fog on their side I wanted to spontaneously combust), but I can confirm: More of this Paper Mario Please
0:18 I agree
17:23 Pink, and I named him "DJ Pink", after a lucky chosen stream viewer who contributed to my stream of the game.
Didn't know the yoshi thing actually. I got a classic green. And: It IS nice to see a remake address issues with the original, like the backtracking.
I think what happened to Nintendo with Paper Mario was that Thousand Year Door released in the Gamecube era.
And at the time, the anti-Nintendo propaganda in the industry & media was SUFFOCATING.
Gamecube got left in the dust saleswise & only appealed to the most core Nintendo fans like me (still got my Gamecube!).
Nintendo's attitude to seemingly everything released in that era was "It wasn't good enough to breakthrough so let's change".
Wiis & DS's success showed them that changing things up improved sales which is why Super Paper Mario started moving away from its core RPG roots. It was still good but it led to changes seen in Sitcker Star through The Origami King.
Nintendo put their best efforts into those Gamecube games & the audience at the time largely ignored them.
So Nintendo thought they did something wrong. It's the same thing that happened to Star Fox & F-Zero.
But there was never nothing wrong with those Gamecube games & the anti-Nintendo propaganda has faded now.
So Nintendo is finally rethinking their attitudes towards that Gamecube-era game design which seems to be beloved now.
That's why they put out that Paper Mario survey asking the fans for answers which they don't do often.
Good games caught up in bad times. And it made Nintendo second-guess how they did things...even to a fault.
When i first played the game as a kid, i got a blue yoshi and named him Blue. When i played the remake, I decided to get blue yoshi again but this time name him Bubbles. But somehow my child mind kept seeing him as my Blue and I kept calling him Blue throughout the whole playthrough.
Awesome video and fun analysis! This is my favorite game of all time, so I'm happy that you enjoyed it so much! Also, in my playthrough of the remake, I got a red Yoshi and named them Redgy, very original lol
I think this shows how much content and effort was put into video games from then vs now.
Also, amazing video dude, very high quality.
The Mario RPG gimmick is that you can press buttons with good timing to do more and take less damage. It sounds minimal, but it matters a lot - non-Mario RPGs, when you get stuck, it's level up, get lucky, or find some strong/cheesy strat, but Mario makes you go "man if I had only hit a few more action commands" and run it back and try to play better.
I'm glad you get that TTYD is an excellent game. It's a beautiful thing to experience.
Also, in my humble opinion, Kersti is the best damn one man I gotta put some respect on the sticker tsundere.
My yoshi in the remake is green and I named him Hoshino.
Hoshino Yoshi.
Hoshi means star, and Hoshino sounds like "hoshi no".
So Hoshino Yoshi sounds like "hoshi no Yoshi", meaning "Yoshi of the Stars".
Love the creativity. I know a friend of mine who loves yoshi and she would love your yoshi's name.
Kirby reference unintentional or intentional?
@@lpfan4491 only half intentional. saw the resemblance after the fact, decided to keep it.
I got a blue Yoshi and named him big blu! It’s so cute because it fits as a wrestler name and whenever goombella or someone else in my team mentions him, it’s cute to call him big blu even though he’s tiny lol
I got a pink yoshi and I named him “Champer”
The clip of Chugga and Tim has me dying every time XD
I'm pretty sure Sticker Star has the worst backtracking than TTYD since world 3 in Sticker Star has WAY too much backtracking since you're trying to help the Wiggler get his body parts back.
Luckily TTYD fixed it's backtracking problem by giving us warp pipes to different places.
Only caused you asked favorite partners are Goombella (rally wink is so good) or Yoshi kid with Vivian, Koops, and Admiral Bobbery
I got a black one and named him Scrap works on a number of levels Scrap can refer to a small animal, as soon as he hatches out of the egg he's waiting to get into a fight or Scrap, and he's made from a Scrap of Paper
I even came up with names for the other colors for future playthroughs
White - Icarus
Orange - Rocket
Pink - Honeydew
Blue - (now do it again with Manly) Gusto
Red - Scorch
Green - Midoriya (shounen)
(Personally, I prefer Zoro, but sadly, Yoshi's don't weild swords)
@@skycaboose Love that you already have names for each color prepared. Also Scrap is really clever.
@Squiggy the other names were also inspired by things that happen Yoshi in the past, Icarus for the White Yoshi cause when I look at him he reminds me of Cupid and I know Yoshis can have angel wings and Icarus is a fighter in Greek mythology with wings before they burned up plus I love kid Icarus wished they port that game over or make a Sequel to it so, the Orange one is Rocket cause I picture him to be the fastest one specially with the dash pepper in Galaxy 2 and you do need to give the egg a pineapple in sunshine for it to turn Orange so Pineapple Rocket was where I got his name from and i imagine his eggs firing off like Missiles and i did think i could could think of a pun like calling him Mr. Ile as opposed to Miss Ile but doesnt really work as well cause he's just a baby, Pink is Honeydew cause when I see him all I can think is Watermelons but I couldn't name him that or Melon cause that's not really a name so I named him Honeydew just cause it's a juicy melon once again tieing into Yoshis barfing Juice in Sunshine and technically he's named after a Muppet so, the Blue one is Gusto just cause of the blimp fruit in Galaxy 2 and the blue baby yoshis in the older Mario bros games breathed bubbles so I went with an Airy name plus Gusto can refer to energetic personality and yeah the yoshi kid has that, Red is Scorch cause of Yoshi's final smash in Brawl he grows wings and breathes fire plus Scorch can change the color of something and considering Yoshis come in every color it just works and Green got to be honest was running out of ideas so figured I just call him Green in Japanese cause i couldnt think of anything else and apparently Midoriya can refer to Green Valleys and Yoshi's Valley is a track in Mario Kart so unintentional connection to Yoshi lore
My first yoshi as a kid was orange. He looks like the boss of his chapter, it was sick. Ever since ive gotten green. Took me til my third play thru over the years to google it and find out its based on time between getting the egg and hatching it lol
I got a black Yoshi I named "Boshi" as a nod to Mario RPG
Black Yoshi, I named him after my real life name, at the time it felt like a nice idea since I always liked Yoshi and this way I'm technically one of the characters.
I haven't cleared the game yet but so far I think Vivian is my favorite partner, her story made me shed a small tear when she finally joins your group for real. It felt like proper growth to the character rather than just keep on accepting her sad life with her sisters, I'm pretty fond of stories like those.
I was actually pretty surprised this game isn't mentioned more, It's literally my first introduction to the Paper Mario series and I'm likely gonna look for that 64 game after it.
The goat has now played the goat video game! glad you liked it!
I got blue Yoshi too. I named him Boshi named after the Blue Yoshi with Sunglasses in Super Mario RPG :) My favorite ally is probably Bobbery tho
8:11 In the GameCube version, Bobbery was only partner who would not fall asleep during Luigi's tales. It have him more character. I'm not sure if this is true, but I've seen some people say it was due to a coding error on the GameCube. Overall though, the remake was fantastic, and they added so many little details, it added a lot to the experience as a whole!
I finally managed to finish TTYD for once as I pirated the original a few years ago but I never finished chapter 7 but this time I ventured through the thousand year door into the palace of shadow and beat the shadow queen
That palace was such a cool final area. Also I remember doing something similar with ace attorney, I played the first game on my computer, then I bought the 2nd and 3rd game for DS.
@@Squiggy 2nd and 3rd?
@@IndustrialParrot2816 the ace attorney games for DS, I pirated the first one and felt like buying the actual games to support the series
I just replayed TTYD and I purposely got the Pink Yoshi and named him Boulder, because he from my og playthrough
it's great that you see what us PM vets are getting at, hopefully with TTYDR selling as well as it did in May, Nintendo will see how badly we want Paper Mario back to it's roots. i know that Nintendo has a quirk about wanting to innovate when they do sequels, and that's not a BAD mindset to have per se, but SOMETIMES all we fans want is more of the same that we love about a game, just a solid RPG experience with great characters, story, customization and maybe some collectables. minigames wouldnt hurt either though for that matter.
@@UltimateGamerCC it’s alls about balance, maintaining what fans love about a series, while also adding something new to make this entry special. I’m sure the next paper mario will be like this but will have some new twist that won’t harm the experience.
I got the green Yoshi, and I only named him "Speedy" because of Mario's nickname "Gonzales," making the team name Speedy Gonzales
It is amazing to watch a video from a newbie's perspective, because I thought this game was incredible twenty years ago, and I'm loving history repeating itself! So glad you made this video!
Are there any elements of Origami King that you'd like to see carried over to a hypothetical Paper Mario 3?
2:15 I think they completely messed up the fighting sysetm. And I think there would have been an easy fix. Instead of a repetitive puzzle game, they could just have made it an actual strategic fighting game. The simplest change would be this: Just leave all attacks as they are. Make it possible to know how much damage each attack does. Don't have the one perfect solution. Just spread them randomly on the board. And especially don't reward the player with twice the damage output for lining up perfectly. The enemies being lined up perfectly should be reward enough.
And then it could be expanded from there by adding attacks or items which hiit a specific shapes on the board. For example one complete circle, or a boms on 3×3 grid. Also extra move items seems like a good idea.
The boss battles already were much better in my opinion. There wasn't the one perfect solution (or at least it wasn't that obvious).
It was more like coming up with the best route oneself. And maybe these routes were intended, but it wasn't that obvious. And there often were multiple routes.
I’m all for innovating the formula of a game series - but when the formula was already so good and so unique, it really hurt for them to turn their backs on it!
My brother and I are massive fans of the original two games, but were gutted when we played Super Paper Mario and discovered what a departure it was. We haven’t bothered playing any of the entries released since then, because it was obvious they still hadn’t returned to the original elements that we’d loved so much.
It has certainly been joyous to play the remastered Thousand-Year-Door! I don’t expect them to do new entries in this style, but if they ever do… I’m there!
I genuinely hope they touch up 64 and Super, and hope Paper Luigi's adventures become games
White yoshi named him whiteout
If you're willing to dive into the world of Paper Mario mods/fan games the amount of quailty Paper Mario mods out there is wild. There's also more indie games release/in development that take huge inspiration from Paper Mario than I can count.
Its a good time to be a fan of Paper Mario if you enjoy that classic formula.
I got dark blue, and named him Scrapper.
This narration is the voice I imagine when I use the 🤓 emoji and repeat back what someone just said in a mocking tone in a comment reply
I probably beat Paper Mario at least 3 times… with different badge builds and discovering more star pieces. So much fun. I love TTYD
I got the white yoshi and I named him Krystal :3 (I love this game so much, Im so happy I get to play it again after all these years, as of right now I'm sitting at a pretty 75 hours of playtime :3)
Goombella is just a FANTASTIC ally. Her personality, while more respected in the original, is quirky and also smart. Reinventing usual enemies as allies is just wonderful.
Plus her ability to let Mario go again in a single turn is amazing.
I hope you enjoy Paper Mario 64! It has aged exceptionally well, perhaps better than any other game for its console. It used to be tied with TTYD near the top of my favorite games of all time, but the remake treatment of TTYD put it over the top. I hope that 64 also gets the remake treatment, as it absolutely deserves it!
Im an OG TTYD huge fan. Absolutely love the remake too.
My partner yoshi, no matter what color he ends up, is always G. Junior (Gonzalez Jr is too long). He's a black yoshi this time
@@BlueDavrial really liked that yoshi would always called Mario Gonzalez for the whole game. G Junior sounds better than saying the full name honestly.
Only having 1 partner and no customizable badges makes replays little fun. I played thru TTYD dozens of times but only twice thru Super Paper Mario it is obvious which style is better.
I got white Yoshi, named him Holy
My Yoshi was green and I called him Glucose
I played super as a kid so I never knew what og paper Mario was like. I was so happy to play the ttyd remaster and it’s become one of my favorite games hands down. I just hope Nintendo makes a mainline game that stick with the original battle formula, but with new twists just like ttyd did
I tried to go for a red Yoshi, if I remember correctly, but I didn’t properly understand how the timing system worked-I thought you could just hatch him whenever you wanted by breaking his egg with a hammer strike or something. Turned out he just hatches on his own when you reach the threshold where you need him to progress. He ended up green. I named him “Tyranno”, after “Tyrannosaurus”.
Badges in the Paper Mario games have a very similar role to weapons in TotK to me.
Orange Yoshi. Name: Oran.
Name of an old character of mine, and it fits the cute orange guy. I'd go green, but green is the basic yoshi color and I like a color spice.
I would be all in favor for a Super Paper Mario remake because I literally grew up with Super Paper Mario.
Also I got the black Yoshi, and named him "Preston", hehe.
Just because you asked, I got a Red Yoshi. I named him Red Hot because way back when I first played OG TTYD, I got a Red Yoshi.. and named him Red Hot. It just felt right, even if the name is silly.
17:19 my yoshi is pink and i named him "My Boy!!" ;)
Thank you for understanding.
I played bother 64 and TTYD when they were new back in the day. I'm glad people are finally coming around to understanding why the old school fans were so upset with the newer games.
Anywho, my first ever Yoshi was pink, and his name was Punk. I have used that name ever since.
I'm hoping and praying for Paper Mario to get triumphant new entry like Mario & Luigi in the future. A new PM on the Switch 2 could be the most insanely creative Mario RPG to date.
We have until 2028 considering the Paper Mario release schedule of roughly every 4 Years.
I started with Super Paper Mario. It's one of the first game we ever gor on the Wii and I personally found the game amazing. I had never seen another Paper Mario game before, but playing through SPM made me watch playthroughs of the older two titles, which I really enjoyed. Then Sticker Star came out and not knowing anything beforehand I was emmidiatly excited for a new Paper Mario game and so my mom bought it for the family. While I enjoyed it at first, I couldn't help but feel like something is missing. I never finished Sticker Star, I gave up playing it in the Boo level, due to just getting bored of the game, instead replaying SPM for fun multiple times. Along came Color Splash and I gave the series another shot. It was awful. I painstackingly made it past the first world, giving up shortly after. It just felt exactly the same as Sticker Star, soulless and empty. This lead my brother ans I to finally download the original Paper Mario on the Virtual Console, and man was I relieved. Playing and watching my brother playing through it was just such a memorable experience. This game just felt right. I gave Origami King a shot, hoping Nintendo would improve on the newer formula and actually make a decent Paper Mario game again. It was alright, I did end up beating it, even though it still lacked in some ways, but at least having a new enemy to fight made this game as enjoyable as a newer formula PM game can be. But deep down, knowing what the community held of TTYD, knowing what the original looked like, I really wanted to play it, but it was out of reach. To say the reveal trailer about the remake hyped me up is an understatement. And now that I've almost beaten it I can confidently say that this game will forever have a special place in my heart. It's everything I ever wanted this series to be. I really do hope that whatever comes next for Mario RPGs expands upon this, not Sticker Star, Color Splash or Origami King. They struck gold when they made TTYD, and they did it 20 years ago. Brotherhood looks promising, I really do hope that a new Paper Mario will be just as promising. Even though not all games are as good as the original 3 and never as good as TTYD, on their own they still made a lot of people happy playing these games. I especially wish that newer players, who maybe just started with the TTYD remake or with Origami King get to ecperience this series at it's best again in an upcoming title.
Red Yoshi: Scrimbly
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My Mini Yoshi was green, and I called him Pickle.
I think what developers miss when they try to change the formula for a sequel, is it still has to, as you said, "scratch the same itch"
The battle system is what really does it.
This is why Luigi's Mansion 1 will always be superior to me. They removed skill from the combat in the sequels.
The game was never growing stale . Nintendo just kept making changes that made no sense. It seemed like they wanted to cut corners and lessen production costs .
Im just looking forward to a 'Paper Mario 3'. Origami King's freshness with the combat style and partners of TTYD... Yes please.
Blue yoshi named Boshi Jr and Bobery is the best
Speaking of amazing game, Mario and Luigi: Partner's in Time is still one of my all time favorites, though I don't think there's been a bad Mario and Luigi game
@@edwarddavis7858 my favorite has to be bowsers inside story, but partners in time was great too.
@@Squiggy I will say though, there was something about the first one, Superstar Saga, that hit differently from the rest. It's a shame that the game was really easy and the story a bit basic compared to the others. Personally, I miss the intricate Bros attacks you could do in that one. It's sad they were replaced by items in the future games. (But Brothership looks like it might return!)
Vivian is my favorite partner. I got a blue yoshi and named him Tom
Nice review! I played Paper Mario 64 at launch time and played Paper Mario TTYD in 2010 and loved it. I beat the remake TTYD 100% and after that I beat Paper Mario 64 100% on the Switch it was just pure joy nostalgia. Paper Mario 64 is like Super Mario Bros for NES and Paper Mario TTYD is just like Super Mario Bros 3 like improved. But I always love Paper Mario 64 as my favorite Paper Mario. By the way I choose orange Yoshi because it's one of my favorite colors and call guess what "Yoshi" 😅
In 2004, my Yoshi kid was pink, and I gave him the name Gonzales, fully expecting the game to prevent that, since he's born in the Glitz Pit where _Mario_ is called Gonzales. Not only did the game not stop me, it didn't even ask if I was sure.
In 2024, my Yoshi kid is green, and I gave him the same name. I can't think of anything more fitting than the name he'd eventually pick for himself in the epilogue anyway.
He canonically goes on to be Gonzales Jr.
@@NotsilYmerej That doesn't fit in the character limit.
@@Twentydragon it’s his stage name
@@NotsilYmerej Did you not read my original comment?
@@Twentydragon Gonzales Jr is the stage name he uses after the game ends. My comment had nothing to do with what the player names him. You’re the one who doesn’t understand.
I'm old, and I love seeing those younger than me enjoying one of the best games of its time.
I also now do. I got an orange yoshi and I named him Rocket.
I got white Yoshi and named him Junior because of the stage name he picks at the end of the adventure
I highly recommend playing the fan made TTYD64 mod that adds a ton of content to Paper Mario 64
This does give me hope that the team might make the next paper mario game that pleases both fans. Origami King was the step in the right direction but not nearly enough for spme players. The fact they remade this game might be their way to see what made this game work and bring it to their next entry? Lets hope anyways.
Yoshi kid is THE GOAT
I love my green yoshi (Hunter) and his snarky/sassy personality. I just really vibe with him in and out of battle
What they should do next is remake Super Paper Mario. The story, characters, everything is already there. Keep that, fine-tune it, but remake it from the ground up with a combat system similar to TTYD's. Use it as an experiment for them to course correct and practice in trying to make something akin to TTYD's combat system. Pair it up with Super's plot which, god, best Mario story ever told, they'll have a hit on their hands.
I named my blue Yoshi Joe Cool.
Wanna try something similar to Paper mario thousand years door, while also being more modern than standart paper mario?
I suggest you try Bug Fables The Everlasting Sapling. It was what we ate while waiting for this remaster xD.
Fun fact, TTYD is the true first Paper Mario game. The original was actually going to be Super Mario RPG 2 (there's even a scrapped title screen in the game's files), but Rare was bought out only halfway through development, so the game had to vastly change. That's also why the art style for it is so different, and is at times derivative of other Mario titles, it was essentially to save time and resources. The "Paper Mario" title was a western translation error even, and Nintendo only committed to that title because while it didn't sell that well in Japan, it was a massive hit with western audiences.
Even then, you could tell they wanted to make the TTYD feel like a sequel to the original, and just have a few cheeky nods to what was originally just a mistake - like the gimmicky gameplay was the last thing they leaned into to make the subseries feel unique to anything else Mario. Modern Paper Mario games however, are the opposite, their gimmick is immediately in your face, baked into the story, world, characters, etc. Just the titles and box art alone give off a different vibe.
Glad you like the original Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door
And since you plan on playing the first Paper Mario game, I would also recommend playing Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling
A game that Paper Mario fans claims as the true successor of the first two Paper Mario games. I recommend that since that game shared the same “paper aesthetic,” great characters and interesting story
It’s hard to choose my favourite party member, but I do want Nintendo using these characters more. If Toadette, a character who first originated from Paper Mario, remained relevant and used throughout the various Mario spin-offs. I don’t see why the same can’t happen with Goombella, Koops, Flurrie etc
To my knowledge Nintendo made these games, therefore shouldn’t have any legal issues like Geno and Mallow
As for my Yoshi I got an orange one. I wasn’t really picky which color I got, it just happened. I named them “Oranjshi” which is a combination of both orange and Yoshi. And fun little pun to Japanese word for Orange “oranji”
@@Auraelement13 I heard about Bug Fables and definitely will look into it. Intelligent system made paper Mario so Nintendo could bring these characters back if they wanted, whether it’s a cameo in a future paper Mario game or a different game like the stars in PM64 showing up in Mario party 5. Also love your yoshi’s name, never can go wrong with a nice pun.
I think people are unfairly critical of Origami King because of what came before it (both from being part of the 'Sticker Star era' AND comparisons to the 'TTYD era' of games). Origami King doesn't try to be TTYD. If you take it as what it *is* rather than what you feel like it should be, it's a really solid game. Origami King has very quickly crept up as being my 2nd favourite game in the series under only TTYD! Having both of those on the Switch now is insane!