The difference is the rules. My issue with this league is their is no back pressure to start, so flash pins are king. That is why Pushkar was so dominant. It wasn't really about strength, but moreso pure speed. That is a major advantage to younger guys. Starting in a stable but tight pressured set up is much better and more of a show of who is the stronger/smarter arm wrestler.
1:55 For some reason watching the transition to a posting-style top roll here is satisfying to watch. Even the way John's expression changes. I imagine he was thinking; "my index finger and thumb are going to come towards me no matter what."
Ummmm. So johns negative character defects were the reason that he isnt recognized as hands down thee 🐐 because he didnt dominate for literally multiple decades? Good to know.
What you are saying is true, but European starts are a terrible armwrestling style. Flash pins don't really prove anything. Pushkar was great at it, but what happened when he faced Larratt with a little bit of back-pressure? Ah...the real technique comes out. So yes, its a different style for John, but there's still no debating that he was the better armwrestler here.
@@strongarmproduction1675 My question was a rhetorical question man. The reason why you do it is obvious. My point was its unnecessary since it's fake. Just give us the real thing. Not an alteration of looks. Just a hint for you.
Think about the age difference, between the two. It just shows the how amazing John Brzenk remains, the acclaimed GOAT. Resiliency and longevity in spades. He has been arm wrestling since 1984 that is over 25 years.
Every time I see this match, I get a little frustrated. Vasili gassed out John on round 3 with that absurd elbow foul. Ref didn't call it. But, John could have also let off carefully. I respect Vasili for being pretty strong and prepared, but I can't consider this as a good and fair match.
If anything john shouldn't have gotten those two wins, you're right the match was unfair , for Vasily. Brzenk used his experience to cheat like a bum in the grip as well as bullied the refree with his status, they didn't show it in the video. Nevertheless he got flashpinned 4 times like a b*tch lmao.
Sorry but this is completely false. John was very weak in this tournament. John had shoulder surgery in 2011 and this was his first tournament/event after surgery. He did not expect to win. He talks about this in the following interview: th-cam.com/video/i1Ro3skyptY/w-d-xo.html
@@sunnydee7745 Sorry, I probably misinterpreted what you wrote. I see what you mean now. Yeah, John was big in 2014. However, I Think it is obvious that he never regained the inside/hook strenght he had prior to his surgery.
Love around the 2 min mark when vasili tried to bail off the back of the pad n a losing position and John was strong enough to hold him on the pad shaking his head, not today son!
Georgians are naturally strong people. Today, the best is Levan Saginashvili, who defeated Larratt without giving him a chance. In weightlifting, 10-15 years ago, they had no support or opportunities to train professionally. Even Vasil trained with self-made equipment, and what he has achieved is a great result. When you're working for $250 a month, it's hard to stay motivated in a sport that doesn't bring financial support. Vasil could have achieved even more, but as I mentioned, 10-15 years ago, there was almost no money in this sport in Georgia.
John had some great matches and wins in the 2010's, but it's really all just gravy after 2009. Just adding to his unbelievable arm wrestling resume that he has
Bravo Dautashvili. He was great. And who tells that Brzenk could win Levan Saginashvili if Levan was at that time? Are u kidding? Levan is the Best Ever. Not Dennis and not Brzenk could do something with Levan . And bravo Dautashvili. You were so good.
Vasili just lost easily to Krasimir in this same event. John was weaker/not good shape that time. Vasili is world class, but nowhere near top in the world that time.
Todos quieren competir con john, todos quieren ganarle john y eso es lo que te deja claro que el padre de este deporte es el, ninguna victoria le dejó mas satisfacción a vasili que la que tuvo vs john
did you copy Travis Bagent intro music and Rayen bowens background music for fight breakdowns? and maybe dont tell everyone to subscribe every 60 secunds.
@@strongarmproduction1675 I know its royalty free, and its very fitting and good music choice, but it was already used by other ARRMWRESTLING channels. might be smarter to find some music not already established by other channels, I dont know.. good luck to you.
@@СмешнойЮтуб-ч7и да, я не знал по поединку не скажешь что что-то ему мешало здесь бороться кроме нехватки скорости, или какая травма у него была : сотрясение мозга после которого он стал подтормаживать слегка по скорости
In this rule set you can't preload. If you watch it without music you will see John lost due to early starts not being called. That is why in the one round he did an early start to show anyone can win if they start before go.
The stronger arm wrestler lost this match. He used every trick in the book including being so fast you couldn't catch the fouls just to avoid the strap
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1:56 that was a MONSTER lat pull 😳
When Brzenk gets pissed...lol
Them busting out in laughter after 1:23 is pretty wholesome. They're having fun pulling against the best lol
The difference is the rules. My issue with this league is their is no back pressure to start, so flash pins are king. That is why Pushkar was so dominant. It wasn't really about strength, but moreso pure speed. That is a major advantage to younger guys.
Starting in a stable but tight pressured set up is much better and more of a show of who is the stronger/smarter arm wrestler.
Agreed!
Like a slingshot effect, just waiting to be released
Yes, agreed.
Obviously, age makes neuronal time of reaction slower. Then young people has adventage with these rules
Brzenk used back pressure here but he could not stop it. His wrist got destroyed.
1:56 Face of regret when seeing john mad
John is always classy in defeat
Timmy Turner fact
True mate.
And his opponent to in winning, he's not showing off, he's really happy to beat one of his model
1:55 For some reason watching the transition to a posting-style top roll here is satisfying to watch. Even the way John's expression changes. I imagine he was thinking; "my index finger and thumb are going to come towards me no matter what."
Lol by god they did too
It was more of a lat drag than a posting style
Because he cheated in the grip like a bum. He was getting flashpinned.
He was faster than John but definitely not stronger!
Mike White yes, but as you can see, it’s enough for winning
i agree
Stop making excuses every time Brzenk loses.
@@DropkickNation Its not excuses . Its facts . He was stronger but sometimes that isnt enough.
@@andmwr Nope
Ref never adjusted the dudes shoulder was almost lined up with his hand each time he won
The set up clearly favored vasily
1:58 I've never seen John like that
Yea seriously
He was applying a shit ton of back pressure!
I never see him shake either
This was a good challenge for John. Its epic
He cheated in the grip lol, he was getting flashpinned
Brzenk is a legend he is 50plus but hes still exchanging power to those younger athletes..
the reff is really enjoying just being there look at him smile all the time
Vasili, the constant false starts and no call from the ref... John is too nice sometimes.
Ummmm. So johns negative character defects were the reason that he isnt recognized as hands down thee 🐐 because he didnt dominate for literally multiple decades? Good to know.
I mean yea he beat john while being able to keep his arm tucked under his whole body each start lol
screw this music tho i wanna hear every second of the match. the sound of the match brings about half of the excitement of the match bruv
We can do something in future bro
@@strongarmproduction1675 yep
Very
@@strongarmproduction1675 classy response. I thought maybe there'd be copyright issues with the sound idk lol
0:50 Not today son!!
john didn't understand how European starts works, you start at the ready, not at the go
Common issue 😣
What you are saying is true, but European starts are a terrible armwrestling style. Flash pins don't really prove anything. Pushkar was great at it, but what happened when he faced Larratt with a little bit of back-pressure? Ah...the real technique comes out. So yes, its a different style for John, but there's still no debating that he was the better armwrestler here.
Not all white man is europian he is actually coucasian which doesn't mean white people it means caucasus mauntain country people
@@dimametreveli9925hwhat?
Brzenk was never the same after the 2010 shoulder surgery, except probably 2015 period
Why do you alter the size of the opponents arms in the thumbnail?
If that's not the size of their arms why do you do that?
It’s trick to grabs auditory’s attention.
@@strongarmproduction1675
My question was a rhetorical question man.
The reason why you do it is obvious.
My point was its unnecessary since it's fake. Just give us the real thing. Not an alteration of looks. Just a hint for you.
@@strongarmproduction1675 auditory attention? 👂
@@BhanuPChauhan pretty sure he meant audience's attention lol. Regardless, I'm sure you know what he meant
@@somenteasescrituras4064 Co sign on this
Think about the age difference, between the two. It just shows the how amazing John Brzenk remains, the acclaimed GOAT.
Resiliency and longevity in spades. He has been arm wrestling since 1984 that is over 25 years.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say math wasn't your best subject
John was definitely not mentally there after the first couple of rounds. He was stronger but mentally not there. Great match for sure
That was awesome , had a good vibe to the match as well
Every time I see this match, I get a little frustrated. Vasili gassed out John on round 3 with that absurd elbow foul. Ref didn't call it. But, John could have also let off carefully. I respect Vasili for being pretty strong and prepared, but I can't consider this as a good and fair match.
If anything john shouldn't have gotten those two wins, you're right the match was unfair , for Vasily. Brzenk used his experience to cheat like a bum in the grip as well as bullied the refree with his status, they didn't show it in the video. Nevertheless he got flashpinned 4 times like a b*tch lmao.
What ever happened to Vasili?
Same thing that happens to most of the eastern rising stars, couldn't keep up the PED use and faded away.
My fav armfight of all time
He was the better man that day.
Quicker not better, I'd say. He relied on jumping the gun or starting a little quicker. I don't admire that as an only path to victory...
Crazy cause this was 2012, 2014 brzenk was a friggin monster. Jeez I wanna see john that big again
Sorry but this is completely false. John was very weak in this tournament. John had shoulder surgery in 2011 and this was his first tournament/event after surgery. He did not expect to win. He talks about this in the following interview: th-cam.com/video/i1Ro3skyptY/w-d-xo.html
@@stretto2465 idk what's false but yes you're right. Its why john got so huge in 2014
@@sunnydee7745 Sorry, I probably misinterpreted what you wrote. I see what you mean now. Yeah, John was big in 2014. However, I Think it is obvious that he never regained the inside/hook strenght he had prior to his surgery.
Georgian my cool man! Look at the face this guy fired up like all georgians this people are different man! Crazy and nice people 😮
At 1:57 when John pulls you like this, you can't do anything.
I see this guy has taken a page out of Travis Bagent's book - you gotta catch them before they're even ready.
The "go" is merely a suggestion. Best to start well in advance just to be safe.
Love around the 2 min mark when vasili tried to bail off the back of the pad n a losing position and John was strong enough to hold him on the pad shaking his head, not today son!
Georgians are naturally strong people. Today, the best is Levan Saginashvili, who defeated Larratt without giving him a chance. In weightlifting, 10-15 years ago, they had no support or opportunities to train professionally. Even Vasil trained with self-made equipment, and what he has achieved is a great result. When you're working for $250 a month, it's hard to stay motivated in a sport that doesn't bring financial support. Vasil could have achieved even more, but as I mentioned, 10-15 years ago, there was almost no money in this sport in Georgia.
John is amazing
John had some great matches and wins in the 2010's, but it's really all just gravy after 2009. Just adding to his unbelievable arm wrestling resume that he has
1:55.Brzenk went Super Saiyan
Epic
In John's younger days noone could defeat him
Vasili won but everyone is talking about how great John is LOL
Bravo Dautashvili. He was great. And who tells that Brzenk could win Levan Saginashvili if Levan was at that time? Are u kidding? Levan is the Best Ever. Not Dennis and not Brzenk could do something with Levan . And bravo Dautashvili. You were so good.
Vasili just lost easily to Krasimir in this same event. John was weaker/not good shape that time. Vasili is world class, but nowhere near top in the world that time.
Todos quieren competir con john, todos quieren ganarle john y eso es lo que te deja claro que el padre de este deporte es el, ninguna victoria le dejó mas satisfacción a vasili que la que tuvo vs john
Who is stronger? Here you have the answer 1:58
Me vs Devon,
Devon: you lose boy
Me: yeah, you r the fourth guy beat now,
John feels,
Savior the flavor punk. That won't happen very often against JB
John isn’t the same after his surgeries
I tought for a sec that there was a sub pop up
The goat 🐐
ქართველები ვართ რაც ვართ
Is the ref Timberlake?
Lol no
Nice job georgian 👏 not everyone has an honor to meet Brzenk
did you copy Travis Bagent intro music and Rayen bowens background music for fight breakdowns?
and maybe dont tell everyone to subscribe every 60 secunds.
It’s called royalty free music and 98% of you tubers use it. 🙂
@@strongarmproduction1675 I know its royalty free, and its very fitting and good music choice, but it was already used by other ARRMWRESTLING channels.
might be smarter to find some music not already established by other channels, I dont know..
good luck to you.
" I MUST BREAK YOU '...
BRZENK .. ' GO 4 IT"?!
THOUGH ITS NOT 🇺🇸 v 🇷🇺
Nah, just because John didn't want to go for strap, in strap was easy win for John
make your excuses dancho - Brzenk lost a close match - wipe your tears boo boo
@@TAROTAI now say it without crying 😆🤫
@@TAROTAI 2 matches were lost to very early starts. That is why John hit early in the one round (and got called for it).
2:00 where you goin buddy?
0:51 I'm not saying I'm an expert lip reader but I'm pretty sure Vasily said "EEEEEEEEY EEEEYUM MoooMEE MOOOOM MOOOMEE AHHHHHHH ahhhhh gnnnnnn....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
😃😃
It's like watching a friggin drag race. First guy to react without fouling wins. Pretty boring, imo.
Watch a version of it without music, the ref didn't call most of the early starts.
Vasili vs Oncescu?
Красавчик просто скоростью не давал старене включиться
да, так и было. реакция решила бой.
Джон был после травмы и она давала о себе знать
@@СмешнойЮтуб-ч7и да, я не знал по поединку не скажешь что что-то ему мешало здесь бороться кроме нехватки скорости, или какая травма у него была : сотрясение мозга после которого он стал подтормаживать слегка по скорости
@@СаваФил он после операцыи
Its funny how obvious the thumbnail is photoshopped
Ofc it is. That’s the idea of the thumbnail, to drag more attention (click bait)
John always had problems with Georgian arm wrestlers.
Especially in his first match after shoulder surgery , didn’t do too bad , considering he said he didn’t expect to win .
To state this correctly John always had problems with early starts that weren't called by the ref. The one he did was called though.
even the GOAT loses sometimes
John is losing more beatifully than a lot of armwrestlers when they win.
Lol straight up intro song from Travis Bagents channel
Lol
@@strongarmproduction1675 what's so funny? Make your own material and quit being a lazy piece of shit
No loading is more chance of injury.
A noname beat a prime john?
He is WAF World Champion. A well respected Athlete from East Europe.
John was 48 years old in this match. You think that is prime?
Music name
Young vs old,
VAsilii was leaning into the center, was positioned much closer, referee sucks
If his body/shoulder doesn't cross the table center line it isn't an issue. The big problem with the ref was not calling early starts.
Looked like he was not ready on a few occasions or not sure of the local rules, seemed like a bit of a cheap win and maybe John was being too nice.
In this rule set you can't preload. If you watch it without music you will see John lost due to early starts not being called. That is why in the one round he did an early start to show anyone can win if they start before go.
Like cheetah n lion in a race
Vasili will be better soon💪
wow!
Devon suffered lots of diffficulty when he fought against Prutnik, therefore I think Devon can hardly win Zaur.
Brzenk arm hooks in like a Cobra!!!
& he lost like an angry bear
GOAT gassed out, natural doesn't stand much chance against the Georgians and Russians!!!
John is stronger but this kid was faster and win
Great fight
Best
The stronger arm wrestler lost this match. He used every trick in the book including being so fast you couldn't catch the fouls just to avoid the strap
აბარაა ❣️
Ref looks cool haahah
He is nice guy, WAF and EAF world champ.
John is God
& God had a bad day
He never win with strap
John is not as fast at the start,reason he lost
Watch a version with out music. The Ref beat John by not calling early starts.
Это не победа..а херня.нет борьбы вязкой..а раньше рвать это не борьба
Suka bliad
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I haven't seen more cringe face expressions than Vasilis.
Психанул😂
💪👍🇬🇪
Fake 😂
I hate this