The Way of the ROK: A deep dive for beginners with the ROK espresso GC
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- Here is my tutorial for the #ROK #Espresso maker. This video shows my personal technique, and it's intended for beginner ROK users.
See more about my ROK #coffee journey on my Instagram page: / dh_macdonald
Note that I am not affiliated with ROK in any way, and this is not a paid promotion. I'm just an enthusiastic ROK user. :)
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This is absolutely the clearest and most instructive video tutorial I've seen on how to make good coffee from home. No "like and subscribe" bullshit, just a soothing voice, quality camera work, commentary, and atmosphere, and a genuine interest in helping others without brand-building and shameless plugs.
I just bought a Rok GC espresso maker and grinder. I came here looking for a demonstration of what a good shot looks like, not just the same vague instructions that I've heard from other channels with no proof the shot pulled was actually any good.
Thank you so much.
Hi, Nathan. I appreciate your comment very much. This being my first video, I wasn't sure what kind of reception it would get, but the response has been so positive, and it's very encouraging. I'd like to take this approach to my videos going forward (I'm planning another one now as I'm about to go pick up a ROK Grinder GC from the post office!), so it's really helpful to know that how I've presented things is effective and appreciated. I'll try to do your comment justice moving forward. :) All the best.
Nathan Greene telling it like it is!!
Don:t expect to high to enjoy rich taste of coffee using rokpresso gc. I just bought it..before I buy, I refer to james hoffmann review. After several times, trying to find best ways to get the good result...the outcome is really disappointed. The main issue, is that, there is no enough pressure created by this device..only about 3 bars..how one can expect good espresso quality even close to it. Of course, the result is vary from one to another. One might say I have no experience in pulling a shot and tons of justifications. One may refer to reviews the real sprometheus 'head to head flair pro vs rok gc', Rok vs flair espresso maker' at tv by tom, rok vs flair battle' kopihaii channel..those three gives reliable and balance information about rok, not to mention flair..as I haven't had it yet. For those who just want to having a cup of coffee below par..just bitter taste..you can choose this device..on the other hand, for those who want to enjoy a rich coffee taste..it had better you look around for awhile...find as many testimonies as you can from honest user. Wrong decision can definitely waste money, waste time to do trials and waste your lovely fresh coffee beans. I do hope this commeny is helpful for those who plan to buy manual brewing coffee.
There are many videos on TH-cam about this Rok Espresso Maker, but your video demonstration is much better than what I have seen so far. Congratulations!
Thank you very much! :)
I couldn’t agree more.
This feels so detailed it's almost a parody! Not sure I'll ever be this keen on making espressos but this is certainly helpful if you want to take things to the furthest point.
It is indeed a rabbit hole. Glad you enjoyed the video. :)
That, sir, is a beautiful cup of espresso!
Thank you!
Best tutorial video on this machine. Bought mine 2nd hand for $100. Want to buy upgrade kit from Rok. Hope to learn how to make a good shot to enjoy. Thank you
I recently bought a Rok GC after being sick of my electric machine clogging up over even the coarsest grinds. So far I haven't gotten a good espresso out of it but now thanks to this video I have began getting some nice shots. It is so nice to have a technique for this machine explained so thoroughly, and the results shown in detail. Thank you for this video!
Hi Aaron. I'm really glad the video has helped you get some better shots! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Great video, many thanks. Lovely camera work at the end on the bottomless portafilter. I am just tip-toeing into the world of specialty coffee, with a limited budget, having just bought a 2nd hand rok grinder. I think this video has persuaded me that the rok espresso maker might be my next move - hopefully I can find one 2nd hand like you did.
Yours probably is the most informative video on the Rok I've seen, and I've seen many, in an effort to pick up a helpful tip or two. I have a Presso, the first version of the Rok, and I keep it in pristine shape. The GC upgrade was a major progressive step in the increase of brewing pressure without the fear of possible coffee explosions. The principle challenge to espresso shots without bitterness in possibly all manual, non-electrically powered espresso machines is sufficient heat regulation. It's not difficult to make crema-laden shots with the Rok; the challenge is achieving all that beauty without bitterness, and that is done through a thorough warming of the machine. I commend you for stressing that very important point.
Thanks for the video! After several years of brewing espresso with the ROK, I have landed on nearly the exact procedure, coffee to water ratio, and output volume.
For me, the scale and timer were essential tools to dial in the shot.
I had success with a low cost grinder, like the Hario Mini Mill. One adjustment notch made a huge difference, though, which I was sometimes able to correct by modulating the tamping pressure. Purchasing a better grinder helped with grind size consistency, and final output consistency. This has made the brewing ritual far more enjoyable!
I'm the same type of guy - wouldn't call myself a coffee nerd, but I do love drinking a properly made espresso, and I love to tinker, and applying that love to the process of making espresso. I enjoyed the heck out of this video, thanks heaps
Very thorough start to finish demo. Thank you.
Thanks mate! Good clear instructions, and beautifully shot, well, shots.
Well done, looks a great shot. Thanks for sharing.
Wonderful description on how to use the Rock.
I've had a rok for 10 years but learnt more here and have an even more delicious expression now, thank you from Australia
By far the best review of the ROK GC I've seen. Thank you.
I just found your video (been a long time ROK user). I was happy to see that we independently came up with a very similar workflow. Thank you for a fantastic video.
As a new Rok user I found your video very informative. Just the right amount of information, delivered well! I think I know now why I haven't yet managed to create an espresso with crema. Now that I am armed with a set of useful tips I'll be able to go off and practice.
very informative and helpful video, though i havent own a Rok espresso gc yet but i'd say i'd definitely come back for these tips once i got mine ! thanks mate for the video!
Thanks a lot for the video, it was very informative and to the point. Also... Great camera work and editing.
This was great!!! I appreciate the level of detail and the camera shots showing exactly what you were talking about. I just recently added a ROK to my collection of coffee gadgets! I will be using the ROK for the first time tomorrow. Thanks again!
Welcome to the ROK community, Rob, and thanks for the kind words. I hope you have fun with it and get some great coffee in the process!
The most convincing video I've found for the ROK. It is now what I will purchase (as I'm wore out with watching videos on manual espresso machines and drooling over the shots). This video presentation plus the smooth, quiet voice and calming music is, for me, like a perfect shot. Glad I found this video and many thanks. ☕🙋♂️📖
Thus is a great video of teaching how to rok. Thank you !
Thank you very much! I'm happy you enjoyed it. :)
Just got my new ROK. Let the journey begin. Thank you for the great primer 👍
You're welcome! Good luck and enjoy the espresso!
I'm new to the ROK, appreciate your videos honesty; pulling a lot a shots before you perfected to your taste.
The best video...clear explanation...i am looking forward to try my ROK out..many thanks!
Thanks, Victoria! I'm happy you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. All the best.
I'm so excited: just ordered my Rok, will arrive after the weekend. This video is such a great help to prepare myself for what's coming. Thanks!
My new ROK arrived today. The 5th shot started to have a nice crema, and the 6th also a balanced taste, with so much more depth than my 5 times more expensive, full-automatic Siemens espresso machine. Still lots to learn about mastering the ROK (and my new Korean grinder), but getting good espresso on 6 shots is very promising. I could not have done this without your tips, DHM. Sharing this video now with ROK Thailand (the ROK is very popular here, and we even have a ROK CG Pro, with pressure gauge...
This was such a brilliant video ! Thank you
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :)
Great demo. Great music. Feels like a meditative ritual of espresso awareness..very eye opening!
Thank you very much. Hopefully the mood is not too sedate for the subject matter, but I guess it could be a nice antidote to over-caffeination! :)
The most excellent video! Thank you
This is great, clear informative and spectacularly beautiful
Wow, thank you!
cheers, your video made me buy a second hand ROK machine, it changed my espresso-life, especially on the road (holidays), still use it every day, now with the ROK grinder that beats every electric and expensive altetnative, many thanks!
Heya! This is one of the best tutorial videos I've ever seen! I totally need to get a ROK. Thanks for sharing this
Hey, thank you so much! I really appreciate that. Let me know if you get one and if you have any questions.
I purchased a Rok GC (Black) and am waiting for it to arrive. Thankyou from Australia for providing something so informative. I think I'm going to try and make a step by step guide to make sure I don't forget a process point.
I like the idea of weighing the beans.. I've historically just filled the portafilter on my smeg with whatever looks right.... and whilst its always produced good coffee, I think your method would bring even better consistency
Thanks for share your experience.
As a matter of practice I always take the barometric pressure before brewing. Doing that allows me to determine which of the grinds and grinders that I will use. I find that without that step the final results will be undependable. Thanks for the video. Nice work!
Bloody fantastic video. Thank you.
Thanks so much!😀
Thanks, I like the way you describe what you wrote... very helpfull..
We've had a Presso for about 12 years(?) and I just followed their instructions. Thanks for some different ideas and techniques to try out. My coffee doesn't look anywhere as good as yours. Thanks.
Well presented vid! I have a ROK on order, cant wait.
Thanks very much. That's great! I think quite a few people got one as a gift this year. :)
❤❤❤❤ amazing . Love it
this is craziness :) thanks for video :)
I’m looking at lever-type espresso makers as a gift for my husband -
Your video is excellent! Your result is even excellent-er! 😁
Fantastic review. Thank you!
Thank you, Kamran!
I love this video! It has very clear and straightforward instruction. I would like to see you make a video of your entire process, in real time (one take) to see how long it takes you. I also own a ROK and I'm very happy with it. I'm always trying to improve my results, so I stumbled across your video.
Thanks!
Thank you, Kurt! I will keep that in mind. As you can probably tell, I'm not a very prolific TH-camr ;). However, I appreciate the suggestion and will try to get to it someday.
Thanks for the great information.
Very helpful, thank you.
Really well made video!
I bought the ROK gc which will arrive in a few days. I´m a total beginner at making espresso with a manual lever machine, so this will be very helpful in getting started :-)
Thanks, Viktor. Enjoy the many coffees you will drink! I hope you have fun learning. Comment again sometime as you get used to the machine ; I'd love to hear about your progress. Cheers.
Finally a beautiful espresso after a long long journey. I bought a new Rok Espresso Maker GC, and tomorrow it should arrive. By watching your video I would understand and lower my expectation for my first shot 😂.
Have a great coffee journey mate 👍
Thanks, Yeremias! I hope you enjoy it. I'm sure you'll be making good shots soon enough. Enjoy the learning process. 👍🏻✌🏻
Fantastic video I really want this so bad
Thank you for this!
this is like a cross between a chef's table documentary and a vice documentary
Well done.
Wow, thank you! I really appreciate it.🙂👍🏻
Yours is probably the most informative video on the proper use of the Rok, and I've seen many in an effort to improve my results. I own a Presso, the first version of the Rok, and it's in pristine condition. Since upgrading my Presso with the GC kit, there is no longer the challenge of sufficient brewing pressure and the constant fear of a coffee explosion in the event I ventured too far. The principle challenge remaining with the Rok and all manual, non-electric espresso machines is heat regulation. It's not difficult to pull gorgeous, crema-laden shots with the Rok; the challenge is achieving it without bitterness, and that can only be done through proper heating of the group head. You stressed that point quite well in your excellent video.
Hi, D., and thanks for your comments! I loved the GC upgrade. 100% better, I think. Regarding heat regulation, this is the reason I was excited by the launch of the new Flair 58...the built-in heat regulation. It's one of the challenging things about the ROK, but it becomes second-nature with enough practice, as you probably know. I used to wonder how I could do that with the ROK without using water: could I insert some kind of heating element in the water chamber without hurting the unit? Could I get a heating mat for it with a timer so it was already hot when I woke up? In the end, I just used the water from the kettle and rolled with it. :) I like how your two comments are just slightly different from one another...did you have to re-type, thinking one got deleted? :) Thanks again.
I dont own a Rok but that was a beautifully done video. Cheers
thanks for this video!!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Great vid. Good luck on Your TH-cam journey!
Thanks so much, Ray!
Hello!! I write from Argentina.
Your video is excellent!! I can't get that crema. When you grind the coffee beans, how thin do you make it?
Great instructional video mate! I pretty much have the same method, the only difference is that once i lift the arms up, I press down until I feel a wee pressure and hold there for preinfusion. I guess this just helps soak the puck and little better and helps with channelling. But that's my understanding, if any baristas out there want to correct me :)
After pre infusion and then lift the arms and go hard. I can notice almost straight away from the pressure if the grind is too course.
Would be good if we could tell how close to 9 bars we are getting with our extraction as well.
Keep up the great extraction shots!
Hey Craig, and thanks for the feedback! Yeah, I tried that a couple of times but never really stuck with it-not sure why, really. I have heard others prefer to do that as well. I would LOVE for ROK to have a pressure gauge upgrade. Maybe in a future update! Thanks once again and glad you enjoyed the video.
@@dhmacdonald8605 I also found just as good results with passive preinfusion. the pressure gauges do exist, I think maybe the first link here is even an official Rok upgrade, hopefully more available soon: www.tokopedia.com/bartman and instagram.com/dr.leva.macchina/ :)
@@adamgrubb5081 Yes, I checked out the link at the FB group and that looks very promising indeed! It's a logical next step for ROK, I think, as would be an option for a precision basket. There's also this manufacturer, who makes a ROK pressure guage in small batches,as well as some other very nice-looking things: instagram.com/somedaysomehow_project?igshid=rs2mwboiv69w
Such a beautifull Crema! I just bought Rok 3 days ago and already tried 3 times and failed :) There are many of videos shared about these, but your video demo waaayy better. I will try it! Thanks Mac, greeting from Indonesia!
would you please update the outcome? would love to hear success stories ! cheers!
Me encanto muy buena calidad el café sabe delicioso
After a long time of making espresso with my single boiler machine I wanted to focus a bit on manual brewig. For making espresso I found 2 options. The Flair and the ROK. Because of the absolutely terrible delivery terms (might be because I am living in Austria) of the Flair the only option was the ROK. Until I saw your video I thought it's imossible to make some nice shots. After watching your video I thought it would be nice to start this 'challenge' and so I bought one.
GOOD CONTENT!!!!
Hi Ahmet. Sorry for the delay in responding to you! I'm really glad if my video helped you decide what machine to get, and I appreciate the kind words. I also really like the challenge the ROK presents. Before I got my ROK, I saw quite a few reviews about how the Flair is better, and while I haven't tried it yet (I hope to someday), I'm really pleased with what the ROK can do and I think it can produce some excellent shots. I'm really fond of it and I'm glad I gave it a shot. How are you progressing? Thanks again.
I just got the ROK grinder to go with my ROK GC but even down at 1 click (almost the finest) I am getting too much coffee coming through way too fast and no crema. I have had the ROK for several years and I love it, but I am dismayed with the results of the grinder. This is a great video, and has inspired me not to give up.
Thanks so much for the kind comment, Tracy. It's definitely worth pursuing. Since I made this video, I've actually also come to own a Rancilio Silvia espresso machine, and I'm being honest when I say that espresso can be a frustrating endeavor even with an electric machine and grinder. I've never tried the ROK grinder; I was *this* close to buying one, but instead opted for the Baratza grinder you see in this video, mainly because I was tired of hand-grinding each shot with my Hario Skerton Pro. :) I wish I had some experience with it so I could offer something more. Have you tried reaching out to ROK to see if they can offer any assistance? In my experience, they are quite helpful, and they may be able to tell you something about the grinder and its settings that could help. Let me know how you're making out! Feel free to get in touch via Instagram, too, if you use it: @dh_macdonald.
Yes, I have this problem too. I have had the ROK grinder for a while and recently bought the espresso GC, and so far 1 click is the best setting I could find. As for the crema, I think the tamping affects this a lot. I have seen my shots improve a lot with good tamping, takes a bit of practice.
You know it's a good video when someone who doesn't drink coffee stuck around for the whole 11 minutes. Fucking hypnotized. This guy just put me in a trance over a coffee machine damn that covid shot fucked me up or this guy is good.
I'm smiling because I love this comment, and because you got the vaccination. :) Thanks for watching the whole thing and stay healthy!
Great vid. For me the quality and freshness of the beans are most important to get a good espresso. You can do everything right, but without the right beans it’s not coming together.
Gracias!! Thanks !!!
Great instructions, thank you so much!!!
The man who designed the rock also has a TH-cam video explaining how to use it. It is different but can provide insight into making a good cup of espresso
Very nice bro
Nice video thanks.
I just picked one up 2nd hand from FB marketplace yesterday, the black version with a few extras including the naked portafilter, £100 which seems a fair price.
I've then gone for a grinder upgrade from timemore c2 to kingrinder k4
I roast my own beans in a popcorn popper 😂
Looks like you've really nailed the process with your set up 👍🏻
Wow, My best friend, Wonderful video dear. I enjoyed watching. Hope to see you soon...
muy bueno el video, me ayudo un monton !!! voy a seguir tus consejos y practicarlo con la rok, nose donde comprar el portafiltro abierto, tu podrias decirme ? alguna oferta por amazon?
thank you
Thank you
Awesome thanks a lot ! So the coffee has to be very finely grounded right ?
I got my ROK yesterday, and today I tried 5 times to make it work, but I just can't. Grind sizes that would work on my Flair 58, Pro 2, and Robot, just flows too fast on ROK. I kept grinding finer until it choked on ROK (1 revolution from zero, on my JX-Pro), but then I noticed the water dripping from my portafilter handle. I'm taking a break now and just browsed TH-cam with keyword "rok presso no pressure", and stumbled upon your channel. Very good quality content here! I'll try again tomorrow.
Thank you! Any luck since your comment?
The art of manual brew..
I'm the user of rok for 1 wedk from now.. And it took time for the perfect espresso.. But if you brew and try and it better and better every you brew..
Hello there. Thank You for this honest video on the ROK. I have one question. Does ROK use a 51mm basket? and it seems using a 2 wing portafilter
Wonderful video however, the discharge from my Porto filter is not that steady stream that you show but instead a bit of an uncontrolled flood. Any thoughts?
Very enjoyable video! I havent been sure whether to pull the trigger and get one of these, but I am eager to learn and the price point gets me. Do you think I would regret it? Thank you!
Hmm, that's hard to say for someone else! :) I didn't regret it, that's for sure. If it's kept in good shape, which isn't too hard to do, you can always re-sell if you don't really think you'll use it much or if you want to try a different machine. I got mine second-hand. I found the ROK is a great device for learning about making espresso and figuring out what you like and don't like. If you're eager to learn, you might really like it! Thank you!
You rock.
I appreciate that. Thank you.🙂
Lovely workflow! But it was only 20 seconds from the moment the coffee dripped into the glass, did you try a little bit finer too? thanks.
I enjoyed this video. I’ve been using the ROK for about a year with varying success. One tip I do is cheat the pre heat. Once my portafilter is loaded and attached I hold the ROL over the sink and pour hot water from the kettle over it from a top angle. This lets the body and the portafilter absorb heat without filling the resivoir and saves from having to do a blank shot. Give it a try. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for sharing. It would be great to have some understanding of how hard should you press. I know, that it could be done by practice and you can easily spot visually, will shot be good or not. But in your experience, what it feels like?
Hello, and I'm very sorry for the late reply. When pressing, I look for a fair bit of resistance: enough that you have to exert effort to press, but not enough that you are straining. If you press and nothing is coming out, it's advisable to not force it, and you should try a coarser grind. There should be a slow and steady downward movement in the ROK's arms, maybe about 1-2 centimetres per second, and you're looking for the press to take roughly between 25 and 30 seconds, give or take a few seconds, from when you start the press to when you reach your target weight in the glass. I wish I could say "exert X force on the arms," but I'm afraid practice (and your tastebuds) will be the best guide. You will eventually get a feel for what is right. I've gotten to the point where I know if I have close to the right grind from how the press feels in the first few seconds...you will, too. :) Good luck
excellent video Sir, straight to the point without any narcissistic narration
What would've happened if you tamp it harder, like as hard as you possibly could? what would be the outcome?
thank you god bless
Hi! Thanks for your comment and I'm glad I'm not annoying. :) If you tamped as hard as you could, I imagine that you could potentially have trouble getting any water through the puck at all. At best, you would have a very VERY long pre-infusion and a very long pull. It might taste fantastic, it might taste kind of "meh", and it might be downright horrible. If you have some coffee to spare, try tamping harder, but just don't break your machine. :) Also, keep in mind that forcing the arms down if they don't want to move can make hot water spray out and can lead to injury. Be safe!
@@dhmacdonald8605 injury and water splash never comes into my mind, make sense, will stay away from that. Thank you Sir and have a good day!
Hownice. !
Thank you for the great video! what is the burr grinder model name??
Thank you! The grinder is a Baratza Sette 30, but I replaced the adjustment assembly with the one for the Baratza Sette 270.
Great video. Appreciate the attention to detail. I am in the process of upgrading my Rok to the GC with the conversion kit. My question is about the difference between the standard and naked portafilter. What is the advantage of one over the other? Thanks
Naked Portafilter allows you to see the whole exposed underside of the portafilter, which means you can watch to see if the coffee is coming out evenly; if it isn't then it's likely an issue with tamping unevenly, or perhaps the grind size. Naked portafilter allows you to diagnose these issues.
@@matth6160 You beat me to it, Matt! Thank you.
Has the upgrade to GC been worth the expense. I recently upgraded to 1zpresso hand grinder and went from inconsistent somewhat okay shots to some really great tasting shots. I sometimes get leakage around the seal of the portafilter when pulling shots so I’m not sure more pressure would improve things. If I grind less fine o don’t like the shots as much.
Very informative video tutorial, you did a great job! but I'm still not sure whether to buy a rok presso or a flair pro 2. can rok presso make a great shot?? I've seen a lot of videos that say that the quality of the shots produced by the flair is better than the rok presso. So what do you think?
I think the ROK can make a a great shot; however I will fully admit that it can take time to get used to and to produce those. Unfortunately, I've never had the chance to try the Flair Pro 2, so I can't really give my opinion on it. I think any espresso setup can be challenging in its own way, and it takes work to understand the process. I've certainly heard great things about the Flair Pro 2, and with the pressure gauge, you might find it allows you to more easily replicate your shots from one to the next since you can use the pressure as a guide--this may or may not be important to you, but it would be a major consideration for me if I were purchasing another manual espresso maker. A pressure gauge is on my wish list for future ROK versions! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
I am getting the crema with wacaco pump but not the rok. Though the taste is a little more genuine than the one from wacaco
What a fucking great video!! Subscribed!
I got a question, how much water (on mili liter) is that chamber could hold? I hear the default of ROK is made for 2 shot of espresso, not one. If i want to make one shot of espresso but using the default porta filter, should adjust the water input or just use the two spouts?
Thanks!
Thank you so much! I just checked using my ROK GC and the absolute most I could fit in the chamber was just under 106 grams (so, 106ml). To make a single shot, you could use the double spout splitter and just have one of the resulting two cups (maybe you could give the second half away to a friend ;)). You could also try using a smaller dose of coffee at a finer grind, aiming for the same target time of 25-30 seconds, then just stop pressing when you've reached the amount of liquid you want and the flavour is right for you. I've honestly never made a single shot with mine, otherwise I might have something more helpful to add! Maybe this is something to try in the future.
I own the All-Clad version. It’s the ROK predecessor from the early 2000’s. May I join?
Hi! Your great video helped me a lot!
Wich diameter has your tamper? Rok offers a tamper(49,7mm) but i don't like how it looks so i didn't order it and am looking for alternatives.
Thanks for watching! My tamper is also 49.7mm, but I got it from an Etsy seller in the USA called Creativewerk... I love this tamper, and the shop's owner makes them with other types of wood, too. The link to the shop is in the description!
@@dhmacdonald8605 ah nice, thank you!
Thanks for sharing and the motivation! I just pulled some 20 shots from my ROK. It seems I have quit a journey in front of me ;)
Oh, wow! I hope you were able to sleep after that. 😁 I was making something like 5 or 6 a day at the beginning, and I drank all the ones that weren't completely awful. 😂 Enjoy the learning process have fun dialling in... That's part of the fun, and it will get easier, I'm sure! Thanks.
@@dhmacdonald8605 Oh sorry, I meant to say that I only pulled some 20 shots since I got the ROK :D Well after today there will be 2 or so more. Cheers and have a great weekend.
I've had it from new for about 18 months. Mostly nice espresso. Maybe my grinder (it's old) doesn't produce consistent small enough grind. But I just don't get the amount of crema you have. I use specifically sourced beans mostly (various roasters), though I have used supermarket beans. Also I have a different portafilter. Maybe I should try the one in the video?
If it's old, you might first want to consider whether a new burr would help. They do wear out with age. It could be that it's not an espresso-geared grinder, in which case, yes, something designed with espresso in mind might be a good way to go. The one I use in the video (the Baratza Sette 30 with the added-on adjustment assembly from the Sette 270) is a great entry-level espresso grinder , but there are others that may compare in the same prince range. You could also consider the Comandante C40 with the "red clix" add on, which gives you a greater number of grind sizes that go into the espresso range. However, although it's a great grinder, it's a manual grinder, and that's a lot of grinding by hand. Something to keep in mind.
I can't get the foam to flow. Maybe it's from the coffee I use pre-ground in a bag.
What is the hot water chamber on top made of? Is it available in stainless steel, or brass or copper?
How does this compare to the cafelat robot?
Can a pressure gauge be added to this?
The chamber is made of what ROK calls glass composite, hence the "GC" in the name. So, something like a fibreglass.
I haven't used a Cafelat Robot, so unfortunately, I can't compare them.
In certain markets, ROK has a pressure gauge version available. For example, see: cafune.ca/products/rok-espresso-gc-pro?_pos=1&_sid=73d1df7a0&_ss=r If you're handy, you can add one on your own. :)
Unintentional ASMR :)
Curious about your espresso scale. I’m going to need to buy one online and I’m not too sure about size and fit. I have a kitchen scale I use for weighing my beans but it only reports to 1 g resolution which I can guesstimate to 0.5 g so I’m good their but it’s too wide to sit under the portafilter.
I know what you mean! Scales of a certain size don't fit well in the base of the ROK. You can prop them up with something for a makeshift solution, or check online for 3D print plans. There are some out there that are designed for the Acaia Lunar scale (what I use now) and fit perfectly in the base of the ROK. Etsy sellers probably have them pre-made, too. I use a piece of form that I cut to fit the shape of the base. Not pretty, but it works. :)
Ciao è passato molto tempo da quando hai fatto questo video. Rok è ancora la tua macchina manuale preferita? Aiutami a capire se Flair o Cafelat Robot possono essere migliori o peggiori, il tuo video mi fa andare verso Rok.
Ciao, Pasquale. Purtroppo non ho provato nessuna delle altre macchine manuali, anche se mi piacerebbe provarle tutte. Suggerisco di fare molte ricerche online, guardare molti video di TH-cam e pensare a cosa vuoi ottenere con il tuo espresso. Penso che tutte le macchine possano funzionare bene, ma non ho l'esperienza per consigliarle una rispetto all'altra. Vorrei poterti essere di più aiuto, ma grazie per la tua domanda!
Many thanks 🙏
Hey I have some issue, so I found the perfect grind setting for my beans and able to get the perfect shot in around 30 seconds but 2 weeks later using the same beans and grind settings suddenly the espresso flow became faster only takes less than 20s..
Hi Samuel! My guess is that your beans have simply aged a bit since you last made espresso. It's normal that they would lose some of their moisture over this time, and this would change the type of grind you need to get the same shot time. Storing the beans in an airtight container might help to slow down the loss of moisture and keep them fresher longer. You can try grinding finer and probably get close to same extraction time again. I hope that's helpful!