Monkey Beaver VS TreeMotion saddle showdown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- The comparison video I wish I had when I was buying my first saddle! Here are two of the highest rated most loved saddles on the arborist market. The Monkey Beaver saddle is a collaborative effort between arborist August Hunicke, Samurai Jo, and New Tribe. The Teufelberger Treemotion Evo is the second iteration of one of the most loved modern saddles. I hope you find this comparison helpful in your choice! Climb safe.
Links for each below
monkeybeaver.com/index.php/2-...
Treemotion EVO
amzn.to/2YKOHA3
Josiah (Strider) gets REAL tree-man points!! Love that your knowledge is made evident by a one-take articulately spoken review. I would add that our harness supports more gear/big saws better than the TM. MB is a work saddle 💪🏻
You'll go far with youtube Josiah. Nice camera work too.
August Hunicke Thanks August ! Just following your lead! I started watching your videos after meeting you at arbor fest west 2016 I believe, and never stopped learning :) As to all the video production, the credit has to go to my Brother Hosea He’s the cameraman/editor extraordinaire! thanks for reaching out. Reading this made my day.
Strider TreeGear solid bible names y’all. I have a Josiah as well. He’s four.
@@AugustHunicke that makes three of us. One of my boys name is Josiah
I was taught by old school climbers. Basic saddles. Just the nylon strap with no back support. 2 buck straps. Standard low budget saddle. I learned so much from so many different guys. That was roughly 20 years ago. Tying in with a single rope two half hitches over the d-rings into a figure 8 into a taught line and a stopper knot. I just started upgrading my gear over the last 5 or 6 years. I have a weaver step in single D ring tie in with a high back. I use a prusik and a micro pulley. I've tried several climbing knots. I personally like the valdotain tresse for my ascending and descending. Some ppl don't like it but for me it's perfect. It doesn't get extremely tight and it doesn't get so loose that you slide down. I'm gonna try others but that's my favorite one so far. Also this career is always changing and upgrading. Don't ever think you can't learn anymore cause as soon as you do they'll come out with new equipment and a easier way to do your job. Like the beer commercial says.... Stay thirsty my friends. I think that way about educating myself in this industry. If I'm always thirsty for knowledge and or learning the newest ways. I'll always be on top of the newest things. So when a customer starts asking 500000 questions I can give them the answer and give them the facts. Thanks for this video. It was extremely informative and easy to follow. You step by step answered all my questions and even answered questions I didn't know I had. Lol.
Awesome Video! Thanks heaps!
I've spent 20 years in a corporate environment and I'm just transitioning into tree work. You guys are all so super supportive of each other and willing to pass on knowledge and experience.
Much appreciated by this "newbie"!! 👍
Excellent video .i have both of these saddles and you hit the nail on the head with this review .
Older video as I watch it but exactly what I needed. Already zero'd in on what I wanted but appreciated your knowledgeable and balanced/fair assessment of these 2 saddles. Made me comfortable with the decision I made and looking forward to getting my new saddle soon. Subscribed, thanks
Great video buddy i been climbing with the monkey beaver for 3 years jus bought another monkey beaver saddle 2 months ago love it.
Great review mate. Great vids in general! All the best for the new year!
Best 'What-Really-Matters' review I've ever seen. Great work, Thanks! 👍👍
Fantastic. I am about to purchase a new saddle and I came across your video( I am subscribed). This demo and explanation, has really helped me. Now I must find my bargain. 👍Cheers man
Good info, I have a tree motion and love it definitely going to add the monkey beaver suspenders
Thanks for a great in depth review.
Thank you for your time!
that's an awesome review... you gotta put your time in to know these things!
Nice review man! 👍🏽 I’ve got a Sequoia and what’s now called the lite TReeMo saddle. I’m doing a lot of coco palms and next saddle will be a Monkey Beaver. TreeMo is great in a canopy trim, prune but a little too wiggly in palms. I think August and Joe’s saddle would bee a great coco saddle. It’s basically-up, clean and down or if close enough, traverse.
Really appreciate the review! Your channel is becoming one that I look forward to the notifications from, thanks.
I almost exclusively do pruning (huge oaks to small crape myrtles) & swear by New Tribe’s Onyx. It is a less bulky saddle (not as much padding & subtler gear loops) with a very similar fit to the monkey beaver (no discomfort to the boys in my experience). Has the right attachments in the right places to fit all my stuff without any unused extras. Rides more like you describe the treemotion, but I have never been in a fully adjusted treemotion saddle, so I wouldn’t know. Personally, I hate suspenders & chest harnesses because of the way things ride & torque in extreme positions or restrict my breathing, so not going there. Keep up the thoughtful videos, thanks again brother, & Stay-Tied-In!
Hey Brian, just found this channel. I too am subscribing
It is one of the better channels for sure! I believe he is located in the northern Sacramento area.
I have the MB saddle I love it. Great video. I made an adjustable bridge on mine makes it great for srt.
Thanks for this video and for the clear and thorough treatment.
I am an older beginner with the MB saddle which I bought because they are made and sold by August Hunicke and co. for whom I have much respect.
Question please......... did you shorten the original bridge on your MB saddle? ... it appears that the bridge ring rides lower on your upper torso than it does on me (but this might be because I wear my saddle higher). Thanks!
Would love a video going through the tree motion adjustment and customization
nice video and pointers, thanks!
Great video. Your channel is awesome. I just received the MB harness after climbing a lot on the tree motion. I was wondering if you have any advise how to attach on the MB harness a First kid aid (got the silverbull trauma kit) ? Cheers
Another great video. If the Treemotion is pinching you, try wearing it below your waist. I believe it is designed to ride between the hips and waist. The Monkey Beaver is more burly for large removals, and naturally sits above the waist to hold more gear / large saw. I have one of the original Monkey Beaver and Treemotion saddles, so the new MB and EVO might be different.
im a small guy and i feel like the mb rides to high on his waist for me. i have a sequoia and i let it ride just below my hip points. thoughts? i do large crane removal reguarly
Love your vids, cheers
Very good video, I was juggling between monkey beaver ad that Teufelberger but settled for the beaver due to its larger back support and the two rigs in the back.
Got into climbing right before covid and now I want to do it all the time, and even started doing tree service here in northern FL.
I tried the tree motion but didn't like it, maybe I didn't spend enough time adjusting it..but it is different in a lot of ways compared to my go to harness of the last few years.
Been using the skylotec kolibri , got a treemotion used once in my kit bag , ppl swear by the treemotion but u found it uncomfortable and the angles of the attachment point felt off
Any particular recommendations for the rope/mechanism you use to tether yourself to the tree? Nice video!
The no strangling junk M.B is everything.
i just want a place to try one on before i buy!!! all the arborist supply near me does not stock saddles...
Great video, thanks. I will subscribe
Oooh man... thanks a Lot! what is the name of this brake system accessory? Brazil here 🇧🇷🙏
My Treemotion S Light is AWESOME. I am a recreational climber so I’m not wearing for a work day however I have all the gear or more gear than most arborists and I don’t pussyfoot around lol. Take care
Have you thought about creating a training program to be tree fit (flexibility strength endurance mental focus) etc
Seeing as bridges are rope, wouldn't it be natural to customise length or add additional (MB) as needed ?? (not a tree guy, just curious)
Is that a teufelberger set of suspenders? Or some other brand?
Fantastic video but I'm still a bit torn. The double side Ds and the double bridge option make it a desirable upgrade to my crowded Buckingham Traverse Deluxe which I'm otherwise really happy with. Maybe you could review the Ergovation? The older Traverse has been dependable and I like the solid belt and back support.
I'm on spikes a lot and often carry a bigger saw so not sure which way to go but the MB suspenders look great for that. Has anyone got any feedback re durability?
Durability wise they have both been excellent, no complaints whatsoever, just replace the bridges frequently and keep running it. My first saddle ever was the Sherrill tree Edge saddle which was essentially a re-branded ergovation, and it wasn’t remotely as comfortable as either of these two. If you have the chance sit in a treerex saddle by Edelrid it’s another excellent option, that’ll be the next saddle I do an in depth review of.
@@Stridertrees cheers
@@Stridertrees I look forward to reviewing treerex.
Can't you add suspenders to the tree motion so you can use in as 5 point for a bucket truck? That is a super cool feature that I have not seen in any other system.
i dont think saddles are designed for the shock load that fall protection needs.
shock load rating on composite saddles made me a lot more careful in the tree and having slack in my lifeline
The TM is supposedly a fall arrest harness. The green ring in the back is the attachment point. I have the austria suspenders on my my, love them .
How you rate ANXI XT by Camp?
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Great video new subscriber
Cheers
Great video mate love the explanation for differences and similarities, still prefer less contact in the nether regions though haha
How is the MB or TM for a bigger climber? Whats a better set up would you say?
I’d probably say you’d have better luck with the MB saddle. The surface area on the leg loops is much greater which I expect would end up being more comfortable for a bigger climber.
I'm 6ft4 and 266 pounds the mb saddle is perfect for bigger climbers
Great if strider, is this the EVO version?
Yes it is
What exactly does the transporter do?
Mainly hold your chainsaw
I have the treemotion s light any thoughts?
great saddle, how do you like it?
@@Stridertrees very confortable
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Which hitch you are using on your hitch climber?
I typically use a variation of the distel hitch or Michoacán or Catylon (sorry about the spelling...)
@@Stridertrees i need your help i have a 24 in prusik cord 8mm using on samson blue streak rope 12 mm, i tried the distel and slips i also try the vt works better but still slips sometimes
@@leoga8521 24in is too short of a hitch cord for half in rope like blue streak, and 8mm although it can work with a handful of hitches, generally on 12/13mm ropes folks will use 10mm hitch cord like ocean polyester for example. 8mm works great for those under 12mm ropes. It takes a lot of hitch cord types and lengths before you find a perfect fit for a particular rope, and you'll probably find that some of the spare hitch cords you have lying around that may not have worked for one rope at all, will come in handy for the next rope.
Okay can't take anymore of the.....riding🤣
This will be my first saddle for work, I can’t decide
Both top notch. Youll enjoy either
Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod I think those names are very highly in the industry what are you demonstrating for the new people coming into the$@$@$@$@@house
I swear by the treemotion
I laugh now when this comes on only becausr theres no comparison..mb all day
No one is buying these for anything other than work. They are all “work” saddles. Validating by insisting one is better because it somehow accommodates larger saws doesn’t compensate for it being uncomfortable when you’re doing anything other than sitting back in it.
I take it you're not a climber . Keep your pie hole shut unless you have an idea of what goes on
Sly Clyde “you’re not a climber unless I say so” shut up.
Sly Clyde diamond shaped new tribe “ITS A NEW TRIBE SADDLE” dig into your ass even if you slightly stand. Everyone I talk to is aware of this and it’s the reason why they don’t like the saddles. “Shut my pie hole” because I made this observation. And the climber comment, how does that make sense? Is it just your idiot robotic response when you disagree with a comment on a tree channel?
@@briankennedy1313 says the groundsman
Sly Clyde you are seriously dumb.