Not totally risk free: What bond investors need to watch
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- With more and more investors looking to invest in high yielding Treasury bonds, it's important to understand the risks when it comes to risk-free returns. CNBC's Steve Liesman and Rick Santelli join 'Squawk Box' with more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: cnb.cx/2NGeIvi
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Have Rick on more often
Ricks the man
Yeah and don't edit out points you don't agree with CNBC
Specially on the Reverse Repo
No one at CNBC was complaining when 10 year treasury notes were trading at yields below 1%.
you guys need to turn this into a longer format pod cast
Good discussion gentlemen.
One of the best discussions we have seen on CNBC in ages. Bring Rick more often..!
Too bad they were totally incompetent look what two months did
Damn. This is gold. Probably the best conversation I’ve seen on this show in a minute.
Too bad they edited out the Reverse Repo discussion
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yes, transportation, e-commerce among other sectors are expected to experience growth, but who knows, the market has been a basket of surprises
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Love Rick telling the truth & so knowledgable. I can't believe cnbc lets him work there
This is the best video cnbc has ever made. This was a real conversation for once.
please.
Yeeeah ... Rick needs to grow-up.
Well that guy that called out the democrats was honesty. That much debt sent out and nothing for future to show for it except tech jobs with wage that will be taxed to death.
it’s hard to nail down specific predictions for the housing market is because it’s not yet clear how quickly or how much the Federal Reserve can bring down inflation and borrowing costs without tanking buyer demand for everything from homes to cars.
A lot of folks have been going on about the bull rally and said stocks that would be experiencing significant growth, any idea which stocks this may be? I just sold my home in the Boca Grande area and I’m looking to remunerate a lump sum into the stock market before stocks rebound, is this a good time to buy or no?
Such market uncertainties are the reason I don’t base my market judgements and decisions on rumours and here-says, got the best of me 2020 and had me holding worthless position in the market, I had to revamp my entire portfolio through the aid of a planner, before I started seeing any significant results happens in my portfolio, been using the same advisor and I’ve scaled up 750k within 2 years, whether a bullish or down market, both makes for good profit, it all depends on where you’re looking.
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5:15 Omg if 10 year t bills hit 13%, I would liquidate everything and buy every treasury I could get my hands on. 13% guarantees you’ll outperform the S&P with zero risk
True. There has been a very weird period though where I found that bonds were sideways for like a decade but again even that is not a terrible scenario at these bar low times.
For sure
Late 70s early 80s rates.
@@fatronjones
I dont know why he referenced those times, when the inflation rates today are totally incomparable to those times.
Pull up what the bond yields were from 1980 -1984. I pray this happens again!!
One of the most important statements occurs at 1:44 "they're only losses if you sell".
This is a discussion between experts. Can you have someone do an explanation video, or add a summary? I didn’t understand a lot of things
Worst possible thing you could do is buy a bond etf. Too many interest rate risks. Just look at AGG and TLT bloodbath. Buy actual Bills, Notes and Bonds. Hold them to maturity and collect the coupons. You will always get your principal back.😊
Truth
I often wonder how top level investors are able to become millionaires off investing. . I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?
Yes, a good number of folks are raking in huge 6 figure gains in this downtrend, but such strategies are mostly successfully executed by folks with in depth market knowledge
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This is the best discussion I heard in CNBC in a minute. They will probably let Rick go though. He should have said government making housing unaffordable in populated states due to welfare
welfare has nothing to do with housing prices.
@@Bradgilliswhammyman if a government creates deficits and prints paper and bids on a limited supply of rental housing it will drive prices upward.
Corporate welfare
@@Bradgilliswhammymanpeople living on disability that maybe shouldn’t be getting money monthly, programs to buy houses if you qualify. These are welfare programs. Rent pause, mortgage forbearance, rental assistance. These are welfare programs. Tuition freeze for three years, that is welfare. Stimulus checks to everyone, we love welfare programs. PPP and ERC, how bout a little business welfare? Throw in zero % funds rate, biggest welfare program if you combine that with quantitative easing.
@@billymartin665 housing supply is well below demand for years, prices are up because of that alone. The specific price might change because of rates but the underlying issue is a supply demand problem of not enough housing being built since 2008.
This is the most authentic segment I’ve ever seen from CNBC
Exactly it was straight from the hear no propoganda no cheerleader a real discussion for once
Love it
Buying and holding! I could careless if takes my balance down!!
These hi paid folks are clueless. Fed is likely to raise short term rates to 6%. Treasury needs to borrow $1.5T+ per year. Fed not printing. It means Treasury borrowing is likely to push rates to 2-3% above short term rates. 8-9%. Back in 1980-82, long bond rates were 12-14%. History can repeat.
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Have not seen much of Tom Lee lately
Poor Tom is in hiding.
When bond term premiums are consistently negative, cash is a reasonable option - especially for those that do not rebalance their portfolios frequently.
Lmao Rick was saying 4.25% was the top for the ten year last spring 😂
10 year going to 8% in a year unless a recession or FED buys them done with QE. Interest rates higher for longer unless Uncle FED goes QE.
Best chat in awhile
no loss in bonds if you don't sell? these people are experts?
Well if you don't take inflation into account (ie, if real rate of return is positive) that is true. This only applies to buying and holding single bonds until maturity btw, not bond funds that don't have fixed dates.
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Damn Rick said 13%... the stock market couldn't even handle 5%. I agree with you Rick! This is the risk that almost no one is talking about. Great job.
The problem with locking into more government debt is today's unsustainable debt level. You cannot use history to determine the outcome unless you rewind back to the Weimar Republic or Rome.
Love this ❤
I'm confused, why not buy 13 week T-bills while rates are still high, and until Fed pivots?
This is great, the ogs. TY
As rates go higher, Seniors will pull more cash out of the market and invest in fixed instruments. at 7-9% most of us with a modest nest egg would be able to live off of the interest and maintain our principal nestegg
Yes!!
I've been hearing a lot about the potential for a Treasury bond collapse lately. It's got me worried about how it might affect my portfolio. I have $500,000 invested in bonds, and a big chunk of that is in Treasuries
I share your concerns, Quinn. A Treasury bond collapse could lead to rising interest rates, and that could negatively impact bond prices. I would suggest you employ the services of an investment experts or advisors with experience since the 08' crash
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Rick Santelli should be a moderator in the presidential debates. The man takes no BS answers.
The Economy is been strong nominal wise because of inflation.
Roll over risk? When does a 5% treasury become a problem for the Federal debt?
Rick santelli making a bold call 13% on a 10 year😮
It's also totally nonsensical and baseless.
@@manubhatt3 I'm sure they'll call him out if he is wrong
No cuts until 2025 or 2026
Rick is the man!!
13% lol righttt
Rates will be cut in 1-2 years, guaranteed.
Reverse repo
Two weeks later- if you have some capital and want to preserve its purchasing power, consider a ladder of TIPS at a guaranteed positive real yield of 2.4% above inflation. This will give you yearly income and long term protection of purchasing power, as all TIPS are held to maturity. This is best done in a tax deferred account.
We are too big to fail (like the banks).
Sounds like CNBC really wants you to buy equities, right when the rally is running out of steam and bonds are actually starting to look more attractive.
Default spiral in real-time. Stay safe, stay liquid.
Yes but the risk is lower now due to low prices now
Guys starting brand new with this, what’s the best advice you can give me to build wealth? I have a 9-5 and just want to live more financially free.
Where's the part where Rick talks about the Reverse Repo?
TFLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s stupidity to buy a longer term bonds > 2 years
FED & teasury Commercial for junk US debt . Don't buy them. These guys should go to jail for defrauding their viewers
I am still perplexed every time someone blames Yellen for government spending. Congress runs up the credit cards, it's only up to the treasury to find the money to pay for it.
I agree with you about how they worded it, but I think it's a matter of how the Treasury makes it easier for the government to overspend.
???????****
But we did not invest in good roads or high speed rail!
The tax cuts for the rich is unreasonable government spending.
13% yields??!!!
Are they drugged or what?!
Everybody is talking about deficits and bloated govt spending except the people who control govt spending.
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Janet Yellen is totally incompetent- didn’t take advantage of the chance to finance the debt at close to zero - instead did mostly short term bills
Those bonds becoming worthless!😂
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Stupid fake scammer thread. Stop embarrassing yourself by using fake accounts to talk to yourself.
Ooh my bad, I thought this was about bonds, it’s about government bashing. Not subscribing. The moronic comment about oxymoron was the highlight. Watching the descent from a reasonable conversation into the last few minutes was to watch somewhat intelligent people all reduced to their most thoughtless selves.
Given the current economic difficulties that the country is experiencing in 2023, how can we enhance our earnings during this period of adjustment? I cannot let my $680k savings vanish after putting in so much effort to accumulate them.
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I’ve been looking to switch to an advisor for a while now. Any help pointing me to who your advisor is?
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Liesman is such a gov stooge
Put another Democratic socialist on wh economic team🤪
too bad the GOP isnt much better. Somehow whatever party is in charge, the answer is always increasing deficits
I'm very conservative but every 2 term Republican president has overseen a recession
Yea we should get Trump back in office so he can give us another (2) 2t stimulus checks lol. He was the ultimate socialist.
TLT has been a horrible investment over the last year!!
Where the R on this government waste...uh, expense: "For example, the Indian Arts and Crafts Board is a body under the Department of the Interior dedicated to enforcing a law from 1990 that “prohibits false advertising in the marketing of Indian arts or crafts” according to the federal database on USA.gov. In the 2020 end of year spending bill, $3.5 million in funding was appropriated to help the board combat counterfeit Indian arts and crafts."
2 trillion dollar defense and you’re looking at a 3.5 million $ expenditure for something that you probably don’t fully understand. It’s not going to fix the big issue. Only way to right the budget is pull back on some major domestic spending or better yet, just tax the extremely wealthy at higher rates to cover the shortfall. Stop allowing the billionaires to get richer and richer.
@@davidjackson2179 Actually, you don't understand my point. I'm showing one example of something that exists in the Federal government BY THE THOUSANDS. And programs like that are NEVER eliminated and just keep going forever. Sure, I know that the biggest areas are entitlements and those have to be addressed. If the congress can't so "NO" to something as stupid as the Indian Arts and Crafts board, do you really think they have the stomach to tell freeze (not even reduce) entitlements?
Government is NOT EFFECIENT ! LETS BE REAL !
I SEE WOKE DORKINSON, KEEPIN HIS PIE HOLE . RICK telling nothing but TRUTH BOMBS !