Music is so important to human life that there is a branch of Music Science called Music Therapy. I love music so much that I wanted to be a music therapist as my profession. God would never ask us to stop listening to music. Music is Therapy!! It stimulates our immune system decreasing blood cortisol levels (stress hormone). God created it for our well being! She will realise that pretty soon. "Music therapy has been shown to help with a range of health issues, such as promoting well-being, managing stress, reducing pain, eliciting emotions, improving memory, improving communication skills, improving self-esteem and much more. more from the neonatal period to the end of life”.
Like I said in a former comment -probably one of the first treatises written about music therapy was by El Kindi who was one of the brightest lights of the Islamic golden age - so Islamic culture has not been unrelentingly anti music as some claim.
@kaloarepo288 No music is harram in islam, so called golden age of " islam" ironically has nothing to do with islam, if you want to give credit to islam you have to give credit to atheism for most the science we achieved today and Christianity and most other religions which is a bad argument, science have nothing to do with scientists religions or cultural back ground.
It’s revealing that despite this prohibition every single Muslim country has a long tradition of music. Interestingly it was Arab Muslims who introduced the Oud (stringed instrument) into Spain.
The lutes originate from Egypt and Babylon, many many years before the introduction of the lute in Spain and the Greeks played the lute 1000 years before Christ
People ultimately recognize crap when they see it, and refuse to go along. The greatest practitioners of North Indian classical music were Muslim. That is why the language of Bollywood's music is Urdu, and its greatest composers, singers, songwriters largely Muslim.
@@ArmageddonIsHereYeah many Muslims seem to have a difference of opinion. They object to some of the styles not all music and then there are some who object to all music. This guy knows than, hence the largest growth in Islam are the Hispanics
@@ArmageddonIsHere The language of Bollywood is Hindi, not Urdu. The reason there are Muslim singers, musicians, and composers in India is due the fact that they live in a Hindu majority country. Music, singing, and chanting is essential to Hinduism and is encouraged. That's why there are major Hindu Bollywood singers and classical musicians. If any these people lived in a Muslim majority country, you wouldn't have heard of them.
@@shylanambiar4316 Agreed with everything you said about this Hindi-Urdu divide is basically crap. It's just the same language, a different register. Urdu is a persianized register and Hindi is a Sanskritised register, spoken Hindi or Urdu is somewhere between both these registers along with localised flavours
A long, long time ago I can still remember how that music Used to make me smile And I knew if I had my chance That I could make those people dance And maybe they'd be happy for a while But February made me shiver With every paper I'd deliver Bad news on the doorstep I couldn't take one more step I can't remember if I cried When I read about his widowed bride Something touched me deep inside The day the music died
"Amen" to that! I also love music, dogs, and an occasional hard cider or drink. Simple pleasures of life should not be criminalized for religion or God, in my opinion. Religions that do criminalize such things are 'high demand' religions, which are cult-like. I feel sad when people convert to Islam but happy for those who had the sense to leave the cult.
No more darkness than Islamic way. Satan hates Happiness and in name of Piety you are being deceived. Getting rid of your Happiness is the first way to make you believe that you are righteous and you are the good ones to kill all other people. Wow. Islam makes you desperate huh....this is openly Satanic.... I as a Christian cant never ever imagine a Christian life without Music. Rejoice for the good tidings came to you. Lord Jesus christ will be born for you and you spread the good news. Merry Christmas. Jingle bell jingle bell jingle all the way....🎉❤
😂 as a habesha jew eritrean I know that is why pharaoah said Mohammad and allah is liars when they Enter Egypt and did black genocide for arab islamic supremacy on african land after Macedonia Balkan Alexander the great defeated our black Kemeet egyptian Empire and White washed it with these mega bum bedouins who came from Europe
There are studies that show, that music can impact our mood long-term, increasing depression or anxiety. I am sure that kind of music is for sure haram and for a very good reason. And look at music today. The lyrics are horrible and promote a haram way of life. It's disgusting what some artist put out there. So this is an other good reason why music is haram. I am sure drinking alcohol feels also good but it is still haram. Everything what is forbidden is forbidden for good reasons.
@@jaa24327 Yes, of course it depends on one's taste. I find some of the music and lyrics of today's music repulsive (WAP BY Cardi B) for example, but then again my parents didn't approve of some of the music I listened to either. Studies have also shown, however, that learning to play a musical instrument improves academic achievement. With all due respect, we can't possibly have a cohesive society, though, where some people (like me) consider music an essential part of civilization while others consider it a sin. This is why separate countries are better than trying to have some driving on the right side of the road, and others on the left in the same country, figuratively speaking of course. I don't mean this as an insult, but I get the same cringe feeling when I hear the call to prayer as I get from WAP, and just wish we could live in our own countries under the system we prefer, like good neighbours, and not interfere. It's just a naive dream, I know.
@@lylecrawford2794 But we already live as good neighbours. If you want to listen to music nobody stops you. If you don't want to listen to music that is harder because for example retail shops often play music or movies always have music etc. Even in countries with the majority of Muslims music artist exist. The only thing someone can do is to avoid music as much as possible if they don't to listen to music So I don't get your point. I personally think that the negative impacts of music outweighed the positive. And for example acapella is not forbidden if the lyrics are okay and there is still nasheeds. Listening to a beautiful recitation of the Quran is for most people a healing of the heart which music can't give them
@@gamertech7707How does Islam promote having more than 1 wife? From what I've read having multiple wives was only really for the wealthy as by law you need to look after each wife equally so for example each must have a house of their own. They arent used for pleasure either and can't for example have threesomes.
@@sirrobbieiii1953 your prophet had multiple wives including a 9 year old child If we take the Quran as a sort of biography of Muhammad, then isn't having multiple wives being promoted in Islam, as Muhammad had multiple wives and in the quran it is stated that Muhammad is a symbol that every men ought to follow
@gamertech7707 His marriages were either to align families and tribes or to look after widows the only exception to this was Aisha. I'm sure Islam forbids orgies so it's not like he used them all for pleasure alone. Especially since Islamically speaking penetrative sex is only allowed with the intent of having children. Mate I'm not Muslim but I call out ignorant bullshit when I see it, you clearly know nothing about Islam and spread hate for the sake of it. Do better. If you want to criticise Islam then do so in good faith and with actual talking points worth arguing. You'd find that I probably agree with you on some of it.
Islamic logic everyone. Similarly, spreading Islam by the sword is permissible/mandated but the use of musical instruments are prohibited and is a sin comparable to Zina.
@@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Moderate Muslims are all either willfully ignorant or dishonest. There is no in between. They do not care for the reality of what their religion teaches, only what they think their religion teaches. Scum like them do not deserve to make use of the world's resources.
You have no idea how incredible this video is for me... I was raised Muslim but I have an incredible passion and love for music. When I was severely depressed it was Music that gave me new perspective on life and helped give me the strength to move forward in life and in the process, I learned I had some musical talent/a musical mind. I started to hear beautiful, original music in my head everyday and eventually started composing/creating music on my piano/on my computer. It got to the point where people would ask me to play my compositions/improvise music during school talent shows etc. and I've even had people tell me that my music has brought them to tears or helped them get through a tough time, just as music did for me when I first fell in love. The reason I share this is to show how powerful and incredible of an impact music has had on my life as well as others. People have been encouraging me to study music composition and I love writing music more than anything, the idea of giving that up or going to hell for that was truly heartbreaking and awful for me. Also I FINALLY found what I'm looking for, that term Post-hoc realization. Every time someone would try to explain to me their reasoning for why music is bad/haram, they would all use weak/illogical arguments that, if applied to other things in life, would be grounds to make LITERALLY EVERY NON-RELIGOUS ACTIVITY HARAM (videogames, books, tv shows, sports, working out etc.) and I always felt that they there was just using reverse reasoning. To elaborate, I felt that, rather than using logic and evidence to find a strong conclusion, they were coming up with their own (often times weak/illogical) logic and evidence in order to rationalize a nonsensical, unexplained conclusion (that music is haram). They take something that doesn't make sense and try to make sense of it, and I understand why but it's infuriating to watch.
@joyfulfishman5445 "every non-religious activity being haram" - Indeed, myself being a nurse, I once met such a salafi guy who lived like that. He even used a piece of wood on which he chewed instead of a tooth brush. He wore the same clothes as Al Qaida. With the person I had to care for in that family, most of the time there was the life stream of Mecca - but this was underlayed with a gregorian style music. Well Pope Gregory lived around the same time as Muhammad, and this "music" indeed was Quran recitation. This muslim woman talking against music, she was so much culturally starved, that she even got emotional with a music style she seems not to have liked before. I mean, I do like gregorian music, yet I do not like it enchanting to me something I do not really want to listen to. Let's say. The way how Muhammad is described, reminds me of a grandiose narcissist. Just as Aisha said: It seems that God agrees to whatever you say - And this kind of people can be indeed very jealous of everything that makes you a person. My mother was like that. When she died, my father would not know who he himself was. He had to find out himself, what he liked, what he thought (and he's highly intelligent). Every minute, that was not spent on my mother, was a crime in her eyes. - That's what Muhammad was like, too.
Imagine having a musical mind. You played instruments, made up songs, can play back music on a piano, did choir, wanted to do musical theater.....but gave it up because of islam. It took me leaving islam to realize how stopping participating in music truly made me miserable. I saw a middle school friend a few weeks ago and her firdt question she asked, "are you still singing??" I cried my car afterwards.
@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude absolutely. I thought me giving that up would make Allah happy with me. Since I'll be following muhammad even more, and giving up something for Allah's sake is what we're supposed to. I even started to adopt a level of zuhd because once again that's what we're supposed to do. I thought I was doing right all the while negating my own thoughts and feelings.
@@ashleytheseeker8480 I believe we all have to go through those extreme feelings, religion ideas make us so much serious or brain dead person until we decide to question itself.
True. I want to add my 50 cents here: it's also true that God gave music talent to some people so that we can enjoy music as a gift from him. I am talking about Christian God here. In my opinion, unnecessary self-denial comes from Satan. I compare Allah to narcissists who want to stop you from being yourself and enjoying things you love. Narcissists suck life out of you just like Allah. Allah is a narcissistic deity, it seems.
I remember in madrassah the teacher caught me listening to music and yelled at me and said that hot molden lead will be pored in my ear in the day of judgment. Me being 12 I began to cry. That always stuck with me. Anyway back to listening to Pearl Jam!
You were spot on Abdullah, this poor young woman (I believe without realising or intending to) made a very poor case for herself. She's implying throughout her video that music is amazing, it brings happiness, it feeds the soul etc but she's somehow better off for giving it up? And then basically admitting that she started to 'feel' the Quran because she was so desperate to hear something with a melody! Man, the stuff we used to say as believers to rationalise the nonsense.
As an ex Muslim, bug part of islam is minimising pleasure, Muhammad was paranoid and his way to know people are loyal to him is prohibition of things they enjoy, so either him or music in this case, plus people if they enjoying life here they wouldnt care to die for his cause and go meet 72 virgins, so he had to close all doors of pleasures here and left one open which that one after death lol
@@Islamictruths99 There’s so much toxicity in the Qur’an as well. Can you tell me how it can possibly feed a woman’s soul to know her husband is allowed to beat her? Or that Muhammad was allowed to renege on his promise to not sleep with slave girls? And to kill apostates? There’s not much peace, unless you leave but the passages praising God.
I'm an atheist. In Christian church as a child, the singing of gospel songs and hymns was the only part i liked and actually looked forward to. The rest of the service was boring. The church being Bible-based, it followed a verse that says to "make a joyful noise unto the Lord, come before his presence with singing" and another verse that said "sing with the spirit and understanding". Unlike the Quran, the Bible is filled with descriptions of dancing and singing hymns of praise and gratitude. David is described as a great musician who sang and played a harp. A great wealth of glorious music has been inspired by biblical verses, both church singing and classical works such as Handel's Messiah. So Christianity, despite its many faults, is superior to Islam just for the music alone. I can't imagine how dreary it must be to grow up in the music-hating backward culture of Islam.
Louis Farrakhan gave up concert violin playing to become a leader of the Nation of Islam (an offshoot of the mainstream of course). Cat Stevens joined Islam as "Yusuf Islam" and forsook his musical career. Sinead O'Connor decided she was a Muslim and presumably quit her singing, although just after converting she was trying to sing the call to prayer (it sounded awful!). How anyone could give up such a beautiful thing as music for such a horrible thing as Islam is beyond me.
@@deewesthill1213^_^ yeah ! When the respectfull King David use music to worship God, when Jesus-Christ and his disciples use music to worship God. I agree, islam who go against the music for worship teach by God is not from the ONLY true God YAHWEH !
@@apologetiquesinvestigations In the words of an old jazz song, "Sing You Sinners": "Where there's music, the devil kicks, he don't like music down by the River Styx".
@@deewesthill1213 ^_^ I use knife to make my foods and the jihadists use knife to kill the non mohamedans This is not a reason for me to stop use knife for my foods !
The easy answer is explained by the girl. Most religions rely on Feeling. The claim is that you feel a special connection to the holy text that nothing else can provide. This feeling is empathy to what the text is saying, but Music can do the same thing. This makes it harder to stay in the faith because why should someone follow all the rules and such when things outside the faith give you the same feeling? Islam has an advantage in non-Arabic speaking countries because most haven't grown up with it, and they don't intrinsically know what is being said, so it sounds far more magical and spiritual to those unfamiliar. Banning music is necessary because you can get the same response to music as you do the Quran even more so because Music can be tailored to your preference. This is also why almost all art is banned because Islam doesn't want you to build an empathetic relationship to anything outside of the religion. If you can have the same emotional reaction to a piece of art as you do with the Quran the argument falls apart.
We used to keep butterflies and the butterflies would dance to the beat when we put on music. it truly is something that all living things cherish plants respond to music as well
When I had converted to Islam, I had given up music too! I loved metal music and used to play many instruments, the electric guitar being my favorite and I used to compose songs too. I was so young so all of my family, friends and teachers were mad at me because they knew I was about to destroy my life. This in return gave me victim complex and I became more aggressive to every one who were trying to make me stay away from Islam and more passionately connected to Islam. Thank god my Muslim period didn't last too long. It lasted about 5 years. It was so hard to adapt to the Islamic way of living, I never fully adapted but my new lifestyle came very easily and naturally. Yet those shit head guys say that Islam is natural! !LOL!
You were an outsider, one with no familial ties to Islam, so you were lucky to be able to escape. People who are born into it aren't so fortunate. They have to give up family bonds to escape Islam.
Once during Ramadan, I cut out music completely. Only listening to nasheeds and lectures. I did see some benefits but as an ex-Muslim now, the nasheeds and lectures were simply a replacement for a void. It only felt positive because I was depriving myself of any stimuli. Now, I think everything should be within balance because (for me personally anyway) listening to music 24/7 really made me detach from reality. I made it a thing to now either read a book or not listen to music on my way to work. It helps me stay present and not get in my head too much. But it’s all about balance. Music is a beautiful art form and form of expression. We should indulge in it sometimes. Even with traditional music from different cultures etc. it’s beautiful.
I agree. I am always so awestruck by traditional music from so many countries, India, China, Japan are my favourites. Music allows one to understand different cultures, worldviews and it also broadens our minds. Too bad some religions are always there to control their believer's every action so they do not feel any sort of doubt towards their religious practices. This is classic cult behaviour.
I discovered her through TikTok. She's actually a very fun person. Too bad she forced herself to give up one of the biggest and most harmless joys in the world for 1400 yo myths.
@@juv0022 I mean I've seen video of what Isis did. It certainly looks like Islam has worse effect than music on people morality. People reacting to music isn't a new thing, just because some people act retarded in concerts doesn't mean music itself is bad. Music also includes things like classical, lofi, relaxing and love songs. Not everything is rock and roll
@@juv0022 there are bad types of food too lol. You just stop eating? Or do you go on a healthy diet and restrict yourself from eating unhealthy junk like a reasonable person? Same with video games, tv shows, movies, art, books. There are bad books that are even considerd blasphemous in islam, do you stop reading books all together? The reason there is bad in everything is because we're humans and we're more complex than just being pure angels.
I didn't listen to music for 15 years either. My narcissistic ex used religion to control us and make a complete mess out of our lives. Thank goodness, I'm out of that! Now I dance and enjoy my music every day! lalalalala
@@ramilbraganza8103 Well, if you mean that unproven thing that supposedly still exists after death: yeah, that's nonsense... If you mean what we call a "mind", I didn't mean that.
The Quran should be the language of your soul. Music distracts one from the remembrance of Allah and while we may not know the whole reason as to why is is forbidden, Allah knows best.
This is what Islam does to its followers - make them sad, depressed, and fearful, and not focusing your current life, but also making them thinking it is for their own good. 😢
Thank you Abdullah for your gentle and humble approach regarding the issues you discuss and bring forward in your videos. As a fundamental Christian one of the main ways I challenge Muslims in what they believe and practice is to genuinely think through what they believe, why they believe, and how they practice their beliefs. Muslims assert that they believe the Torah and Gospel. The Torah explicitly teaches that not only were Jews (under the direction of Moses) commanded and encouraged to produce instruments for use during worship services there were dedicated singers for the temple and Tent of Meeting. If music is haram why would God command music services including both varied instruments and singing in His Temple? The truth is Islam does suck the life out of people. Islam reminds me of the Borg on Star Trek. If people do not assimilate and lose their humanity they are then destroyed. It is sad to see this young lady and countless others fall for the deception of Islam. Thanks for video Abdullah. Enjoy another coffee and have a great weekend.
@@JohnStopman Thanks for the kind word. I am very thankful for these ex Muslims who are teaching those of us who are or were unfamiliar with Islam the real truth of Islam. I'm sure you know about this other channel - Apostate Prophet. Another excellent source to see the depravity of Islam.
You said it: it's about competition. Allah/Mohammad doesn't want any. When the musicality of the Quran is the only music, of course you'll find joy in it. I feel really sad, listening to her. Giving up small pleasures, suffering needlessly, and for what? An fictional afterlife?
A.R Rahman from India who won two oscars for his BGM and musics in the movie slum dog millionaire is also a devout Muslim. He's been composing music since childhood, that was his only source of income when he was growing up. He's now the one of the best music directors around the world. He's still a devout Muslim, I've listened to his interviews where he says he never misses a prayer even when he is composing with top artists. So according to this girl , AR rahman should have given up music's in his childhood and should have missed out this opportunity in his life to be an oscar winner? In fact, god is the one who gave him this talent, which harms no one and also most importantly help other people to heal / motivate / feel peace etc, that benifits in improving mental health of humans? Man! This religion definitely influences people so much that they lose their reason and logic! #Exmuslim
Condemnation of singing and music in Islam Ma’aazif is the plural of mi’zafah, and refers to musical instwruments (Fath al-Baari, 10/55), instruments which are played (al-Majmoo’, 11/577). Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated from al-Jawhari (may Allaah have mercy on him) that ma’aazif means singing. In his Sihaah it says that it means musical instruments. It was also said that it refers to the sound of the instruments. In al-Hawaashi by al-Dimyaati (may Allaah have mercy on him) it says: ma’aazif means drums (dufoof, sing. daff) and other instruments which are struck or beaten (Fath al-Baari, 10/55). Evidence of prohibition in the Qur’aan and Sunnah: Allaah says in Soorat Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning): “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6] The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40). Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451). Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this includes all manner of haraam speech, all idle talk and falsehood, and all nonsense that encourages kufr and disobedience; the words of those who say things to refute the truth and argue in support of falsehood to defeat the truth; and backbiting, slander, lies, insults and curses; the singing and musical instruments of the Shaytaan; and musical instruments which are of no spiritual or worldly benefit. (Tafseer al-Sa’di, 6/150)
@@atheistexmuslimindianhonestly what did he say! Is instrument bad or singing bad? One paragraph contradicts the other 😅😅😅 If singing is bad then also a r Rahman is guilty, if instruments is bad then also a r rehman is guilty 😂😂😂
Funny joke,2muslim women get in a taxi and on the ride they tell the taxi driver to turn the radio off because they're muslim and explained that during the time of mohamet they werent radio and music,so 1 mile later the taxi drive slams on the brakes and tell them to get out,he explains that during the time of mohamet there weren't any taxis so it"s better if they wait for the next camel😂
I think this kind of extreme religious practice can cause people to develop mental illnesses like OCD, paranoia, etc. You can see here how she talks about music is not the way someone with a healthy relationship with it would.
Without Music there is no Life ..Our Sikh Gurus were talented in Musical Instruments and they dedicated Music to Vaheguru...So sad that people insult Music...
Thanks for this. I hope she and other religious people understand eventually that opinions like no music are the opinions of the person who created that belief system, not a deity or deities. This is completely a human creation. Her assumptions are so fascinating. Not everyone craves music or needs it. Granted I'll listen to it to dance but I rarely listen to music at all. Sometimes music manipulates emotions and I most times I do not want to feel certain things. I do not need music most of the time and that is ok. I might not want silence and if that is the case I'll listen to people talking. And if you are outside then it is rarely quite, you can listen to what is going on around you. Or you can think about yourself and notice your emotions, how you are breathing, or you can think. If she used music to regulate her emotions and emotional state then what is she feeling when she is not listening to music. Is she trying to avoid a series of emotions? And Quran recitations sound musical (I described it as sounds like singing once to a Muslim and was told "No! not singing!) to me. I can see her getting a chemical hit she used to get from music by listening to a musical like Quranic recitation.
@@user-eq6ct5tl7s And people who assert that supernatural deities exist and will be pleased by you giving up one thing or another should offer proof of existence before making assertions.
Processing your Emotions will lead you to doubt things that's why Islam forbade things that will lead you to Process your own Emotions such as Music or Figurative Arts.
This has to be one of the saddest monologues I've ever heard... You know, there are certain kids who are born more musical than others, and you can tell she is one of them. It clearly fueled her soul but what she fails to see is it's not a given for everybody. Islam implies that we're all equally impacted and obsessed with music, reason why we have to give it up. But it's plainly false, some people can go without, some people need silence, some people love it, some couldnt care less. it's sad to see such a young lady, with purest intentions, waste her serene former existence over a lie. Much like the demonization of sexuality, this is another self-fulfilling profecy.
you are absolutely right !! And I know that because I’ve been in that girl’s shoe. it’s basically lying to yourself to feel better , even tho you’re not , but hoping that someday it will , and it should ,because that’s what god said right? JOURNEY OF MADNESS
i saw the prequel this woman made to this video some weeks ago and agree 100% with Abdullah Sameer's take on this. It seems almost tragic, particularly since she seems like a sincere person and she is clearly looking for meaning in her life. What a pity she has found it in the wrong place.
Music is part of our history as human beings. Music brought us together in prehistoric times and still holding us together. Music remainds us that we are equal persons with the same emotions. Music is our first language. Unfortunately islam is going against many good things which constitutes us as human beings.
Not to mention the legal and/or social pressure in Muslim communities (even in the West) to perform all the daily prayers and (dry) fast for a month in Ramadan. You don’t NEED to do any of these time-wasting and hazardous things to be a good person.
The biggest devours become the biggest opposers. It’s a wave here in Indian subcontinent. Those who studied to be imams and were associated to tablighi jamat for 20+ years. After successful completion left Islam in such distaste that they’re now openly challenging the clerics on live television. It’s a shock honestly. How I’ll-informed their own clerics were. It’s understandable because of the Arabic language barrier. But these ex-Muslims went one step ahead and learnt Arabic just for the sole purpose of debating the clerics who otherwise would twist the Arabic meanings into something appropriate to them.
Music is used by many people around the world to keep themselves in touch with their inner Human [i.e our inner selves we are all born with]. Whithout it, many would succumb to their meandering thoughts [chaos] going nowhere... I love life and therefore I love music, without it we lose ourselves.
Music is good but not necessarily a must. being an old guy I know personally who would have heard music a total 10-20 hours, yet fulfilled. Having music on hand with all the technology music seems ubiquitous and must for life now.
She’s trying to justify isl@m by saying that life is a struggle, but then why do Muslims like to quote the hadith of abu hurayra “isl@m is easy and not a rigour”. Contradictions are everywhere in !sl@m…as always.
@darko7mc186 I used to think most Muslims stay devout because they can at least feel "good" about themselves. But here it's clear that even when they talk about "Allah's love" they just sound sad
Do these idiots know music is even found in nature? Like the animal's voice, such as the bird's song or the peaceful sound of lake water. On the other hand, everything in nature is a rhythm. The rain, for example, has its own rhythm. Rhythm is also hidden in the ocean waves or even in the sunrise and the sunset. These Muslim majority nations all had musical cultures. Before the sorrow came. If you ever watched the film Trolls, those ogre things in the beginning are depicting Muslim societies.
In my fantasy land, we also have podcasts, for everyone that wants to listen to something else, once in a while...oh, and we have all the weed...like, ALL OF IT.🤣
Interesting to note, Sinéad o Connor, touted by Islam as a “ revert” , never gave up her music. She still performed after her “ conversion” . It seems like Andrew Tate, famous personalities can continue doing what they were doing while the rank and file must adhere to all the tenets of Islam. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Yes, I went to see Abdullah Ibrahim and Ekaya in concert years ago, and have their "Water from an Ancient Well" album. On the other hand search for the Saudi Arabia national anthem played at the 2023 Formula One race for an example of people who need more practice.
Music is beautiful - it depends on what type of music. But yea life without music would be boring, and a struggle for me because I go to the gym and it helps me to be motivated at the gym
Farah seems like such a wonderful sweet wholesome person. It’s sad she’s apart of this religion. Honestly TOO much music can be a bad thing. Too much of anything can be but music is so integral to the human experience it shouldn’t be cut out entirely
yeah well I'm a Christian so this idea is completely new to me. For things forbidden by the Catholic Church, there is at least some genuine reasoning behind it even if not everyone would agree with the perspective. But music...it's not like there's only bad music. Music is like any art - you have the Florence Cathedral and you have Mozart, Beethoven, Sibelius, choral music - some music that is really high art, enduring for centuries, music that lifts up your soul. For example, listen to Ave Verum by William Byrd - brings you to tears, it's so beautiful. In Christianity, beauty is a really good thing and it often brings you closer to God by seeing it. Such is the case with many works of art.
We wouldn't be here today, if it wasn't for music, laughter and enjoy. Imagin the struggles of our early ancestors. How tuff and harsh the world was that surrounded them. Music was that light that make living a little easy.
21:58 Lady, there is no such thing as a ''sweetness of life'' a person achieves simply because s\he stops listening to music. Sounds to me you are forcing yourself to believe a meaningless idea that you've accepted because it is imposed upon you, but makes no real sense at all. Just like speech, the only thing that taints speech is one's choice of words, whether they are wholesome or unwholesome.. And music is the same, in that there is nothing wrong outright with music, and the only time music becomes tainted or immoral is when the lyrics - the *words* - are unwholesome, either because they are lustful or full of cursing or glorifying violence and such things.. It's a no-brainer. This is the *only* time music can been classified as unwholesome. I believe a simple rule of thumb is if you can't play it to or in-front of your children then the words are usually unfit for anyone. I am very into opera and classical music and piano classics such as Erik Satie's ''Gymnopédies & Gnossiennes''; and there is NO WAY any Muslim can listen to the piano classics album ''Gymnopédies & Gnossiennes'' and point a single thing that's immoral or unwholesome about it. And the simple fact is no Muslim can. It has no lyrics to taint it, yet it is music. I workout about 5-6 times per week, and as a Londoner I grew up listening to Jungle\Drum and Bass, which is what I workout to, every single time... and again, most of it really has no lyrics; and there's nothing about such music that a Muslim can listen to and pick out an immoral aspect to point to. Islam clearly contains a lot of meaningless man-made teachings that have been elevated to fake divine status, and sadly people like this young girl force themselves to accept such meaningless man-made rules as something divine. If you feel the need to stop people from listening to music, Muslims, then you are also implying that people shouldn't make sounds to communicate - since it is only speech that can possibly taint music - or that the birds should all be shot down in order to silence them, or that whales should all be killed to stop them from singing... You begin to see just how bonkers, meaningless and manmade such Islamic teachings really are. They are senseless.
Oh dear, my father in law is an acknowledged musician and my husband took this passion for music after him, but as he became more and more religious growing up he had to give up his passion. I see how much he struggles. Unfortunately prohibits it for the kids as well, but recently the kids downloaded a piano app, and he heard them playing, then he grabbed the tablet and didn't repremand them for that though as I expected, but started playing it himself, like a child, with such a genuine joy, which soon got mixed with pain and guilt at the same time. My heart broke at that moment. I'm an exmuslim, he still is a believer and struggles with continuing our marriage as well, but that's another story. I've never seen him happy, only tears and anxiety because of his belief😢
What is so sad is that many muslim majority countries have the most amazing music and talented musicians. Our brains are highly stimulated by music. There is so much personal and community benefit to music and how a lot of our histories were transmitted by music.
Yes.I was told guitar was haraam and missed out on developing my musicianship for 6 years. Out of all religions Islam is the one that takes fun out of life with its stupid prescriptions
Great reaction video. I was so happy when I saw the title. So many people from the Muslim community who try to become all righteous give up music. I’m a Muslim as well and I believe that music is one of the most beautiful things on earth. I could never give it up. Sacrificing such an awesome thing would be so horrible.
@@RSingh-lv1ro You asked me to tell prove your religion is pagan?? Well, let me bring you proof nkt assumptions or claims! As Muhammad developed Islam he borrowed from the other regional religions present in the Mideast. These religions include Judaism, Christianity, Sabeanism, Zoroastrianism, and forms of paganism. Judaism is the largest contributor to Islam, followed by Christianity, then followed by the various pagan religions, and Muhammad’s mind. These pagan borrowings constitute significant facets of Islam and I will bring details some of these pagan contributions… to islam! paganism is an integral root of Islam; paganism is part of it's theology, history, ceremony, and veneration… So, where did Islam get the 5 times a day prayer from?? What about fasting during Ramadan? - . The Eid? -( to be continued) 1-PAGANISM IN ISLAM Islamic theology has some of its roots in various pagan beliefs. Primary to Islam is it's most holiest shrine: the Kaaba 🕋 --THE KABA The Kaba is now the most revered sanctuary of Islam. It is located in Mecca in south Arabia as we all know,Muslims throughout the world direct their prayers toward the Kaba.., (In Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661) In Pre-Islamic history tells us that many Arabian tribes were stone worshippers. This is also mentioned in The Old Testament even talks about Mideast pagan groups that worshipped stones. Muhammad incorporated the Kaba's paganistic roots into Islam to give the Muslims a sense of identity, legitimacy, and uniqueness. He also wanted to ease the Arab's strain of moving from paganism to Islam, by continuing the practices of their fathers…. Référence: Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661) Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. Abu Raja' added: When the Prophet sent with (Allah's) Message, I was a boy working as a shepherd of my family camels. When we heard the news about the appearance of the Prophet, we ran to the fire, i.e. to Musailima al-Kadhdhab.) Who was :Musailima al-Kadhdhab Musailima al-Kadhdhab, was a claimant of prophethood long before Muhammad, Muhammad took the name Muslim from him mocking him! This is the origin of the name Muslim! The ruling House of Saud of Saudi Arabia belongs to him which present day descendants .. He, Musailima was from the Banu Hanifa tribe,of which present day descendants include the House of Saud among other Najd tribes. Based from Diriyah in present day Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, he claimed to be a prophet long before Muhammad and was an opponent of islam in 7th-century Arabia. His descendants rule south Arabia today! PAGAN GODS AND RITUALS in Islam! There were 360 idols around the Kaba. The pilgrimages to the Kaba were all pagan pilgrimages, the ritual processions around the Kaba were part of pagan beliefs and custom, the white robes worn by the pilgrims were from pagan faiths( Hindu priests)the veneration of the Kaba and black stone are derived from pagan rituals ( shiva) and beliefs. Pagans called out the names of their pagan gods as they circled the Kaba, today, Muslims call out Allah's name. Pagans ran between the nearby hills, Muhammad authorized Muslims to do that in the Quran, and ran between the hills himself. Like his encestor! The chief pagan god worshipped there was Hubal,( ya sin) ( Quran 36 chapter is dedicated for ya-sin) the god in charge of the moon! who was called the god of Mecca and of the Kaba. mentioned in the Quran. The goddesses al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat were also worshipped there and are mentioned in the Quran... It is thought that the Kaba was originally set up for astral worship. Golden suns and moons are repeatedly mentioned as the votive gifts. Some pagans regarded the Kaba as a temple devoted to the sun, ( akbar) and the moon, ( allah) and 5 planets. THE BLACK STONE The black stone played a prominent role in pagan worship. The pagans offered animal sacrifices there. But the idol of the black stone replaced the alter; on the black stone they smeared the blood of the sacrificed animals.long before Islam! Muhammad made up historical references for the Kaba. Muhammad claimed that Abraham and Ishmael laid the foundations of the Kaba (Quran 2:127). Muhammad claimed that God ordained the Kaba as a sacred house (Quran 5:97). Muhammad also claimed that it was the first temple ever built for mankind (Quran 3:97). Only Muhammad claimed that it was a place built by Abraham. In looking in the Old Testament and Torah we find no mention of Abraham traveling to Mecca to build a house of worship the late Taha Hussein, one of the most famous Egyptian professors of Arabic literature said that the Islamic myth of Abraham building the Kaba came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. He comments: ( quote) """The case of this episode is very obvious because it is of recent date, and came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. Islam exploited it for religious reasons". Quoted in 'Mizar al-Islam' by Anwar al-Jundi. Taha Hussein à salafist was one of the most influential Egyptian writers and intellectuals, and a figurehead for the Arab Renaissance and the modernist movement in the Arab world in the book Mizar al-Islam' by Anwar al-Jundi. Said that: It was very obvious that The claim that Abraham and Ishmael went to Mecca because it is of recent date, and came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. And Islam exploited it for religious reasons".. Abraham never been in Mecca!
I was expecting her to say that all the music nowadays is the work of Shaytan. She seems innocent enough but this Islamic musicophobia is gross and bad. In Afghanistan a famous singer was killed by the taliban because he made music. Yes life sucks and we suffer because Allah makes it so, it's him testing us. It's an honour, he loves us. Islam is so twisted.
I felt that if someone decide to give up music or etc, it's entirely up to them but if one still hold on to that particular religion that degrades them like "mutah, half brain, same level as dogs or not allowed to pray because of period" is puzzling but it's their freedom to chose their faith
Even before humans learnt to speak we were playing music and this lead in the development of our language learning and Islam says it’s haram. Actually Islam is haram.
As someone who has piano talent in a thousand miles radius and plays anime music and posts often this is depressing af , I live in Karachi ,my parent have tried indirectly telling me it's haram but once my passion lit they stopped caring and instead used to tell me to tone down voice, I was playing in Ramadan as well, although my parents are almost jihadist level serious in Islam, it's funny to me how many Muslims ignore basics and calls themselves Muslims here in my uni, I'm happy they are this way thou lol, sadden me as well because I love them so much and want them to be atheist
If you are an atheist yourself, I have a question for you. What do you base your morality on? Put simply, atheists have no grounds for objective, universal morality. Each atheist can have their own version of what is right or wrong. What makes rape or murder wrong to an atheist? How about smoking or drinking? How about interest (increasing amount of money due), or pre-marital sex? What makes any of these moral or immoral. Muslims follow the Quran, which comes from God, the all-knowing. As God knows humans better than they know themselves, it makes perfect sense that He would give us the perfect way to live our lives. But how do atheists live a moral life?
The reason the recitation of the quran makes her feel more after quitting music is because of dopamine deprevation. Same thing happened to me when i was in jail. For a whole week all i had for entertainment was looking at the wall. No newspaper no tv anything. Didnt even get to talk to other inmates. Then after that week they put me in a cell with a small television and like 3 channels. I was so exited to get any sort of simulation so even watching the commercials was a blast haha 😅 Same thing here. If the only melodies she gets to hear are quran recitations her brain is going to latch on to that.
20:04 So, according to this girl’s understanding of what it means to have a strong spiritual path in life, Allah is testing you by making you an uptight, miserable f*ck, sucking all the joy and happiness out of your existence to please a deity you’ve never seen or met? That’s gonna take a huge toll on your mental health, sister. Thankfully, the majority of Muslims don’t practice this kind of masochistic self flagellation in their day to day lives and are able to function normally and interact with the outside world without constantly policing themselves as if the world is full of hazards threatening to send you off a steep cliff! Jezus! 😢 It would be so exhausting.
I can understand avoiding certain genres of music, especially when you hear how vile some of the lyrics and music videos are. But why is chanting / call to prayer allowed, if music is so bad. It's technically singing. BTW when I went to Egypt, everyone around me was listening to Arabic music.
I really don't understand what kind of God hates music. I'm a Christian and I listen to a lot of worship music praising God. There are also wedding songs, nursery rhymes etc Islam demonizes EVERYTHING. I actually went to an Islamic prayer room this week, I was with a friend. It was depressing, I felt a weight lift when I left. Islam is mental slavery. My friend dresses modestly but when she prays she has to wear an abaya, wash her hands, face and feet, it's sad. Yes, I played music during my pregnancy and my daughter sings the whole day now.
Perhaps if someone told her that life would be less of a struggle, if she stopped subscribing to a philosophy that insists she inflicts misery on herself, it might help her get things in proportion? There's more than a hint of masochism in there.
a very good example of religious indoctrination . music is the essence of life . i feel so sorry for this young lady because not even her holy book prohibits musis its the indoctrination and lies from the mullahs and islamic scholars
But *Abdullah,* isn't listening Quran haram since the recorded sound is an artificial human voice? Allah gives hell to those who try to express living things! 🤐
I'm Hindu and I couldn't imagine a world without music or beats or songs. It's also deeply in our culture and apart of our identity. It's crazy that Islam forbids even music.
Honestly with a conversation I had with my Dad. I came to the depressing conclusion that devout Muslims in general have such an incredibly pessimistic outlook on life, they legitimately think of themselves and their loved ones as totally worthless. He says its unbelievable that people would doubt Allah, the greatest thing in the universe who created everything and guides everything and everyones actions. Just hearing that made it so upsetting, imagine believing that your "merciful, heroic" God ultimately controls everything and everyone as his pawns, to create you for any purpose with no freedom to chose.
Giving up music is giving up being joyful and giving up being human. Exactly what Islam demands of its followers in " this life " . But no human can never help not hearing music that other people make . But that is Allah's mistake in not giving humans the abilty to shut their ears at will ! 😄
I guess most things that bring us joy should be positive,just can't imagine how one could choose such a sad life over something joyful and natural existence because of some human made up stories.
Reading the comments over there at her channel really might let you reconsider your statement about her trying to be a good person. People actually get convinced by this crap that music is not good or even harmful.
I LOVE music but, I do think music holds a certain amount of power in our emotions. I stopped listening to music that made me angry years ago, and I had to learn to not listen to sad music when I was depressed. It takes maturity and wisdom, to be in touch with your emotions.
Music is so important to human life that there is a branch of Music Science called Music Therapy. I love music so much that I wanted to be a music therapist as my profession. God would never ask us to stop listening to music. Music is Therapy!! It stimulates our immune system decreasing blood cortisol levels (stress hormone). God created it for our well being! She will realise that pretty soon.
"Music therapy has been shown to help with a range of health issues, such as promoting well-being, managing stress, reducing pain, eliciting emotions, improving memory, improving communication skills, improving self-esteem and much more. more from the neonatal period to the end of life”.
Like I said in a former comment -probably one of the first treatises written about music therapy was by El Kindi who was one of the brightest lights of the Islamic golden age - so Islamic culture has not been unrelentingly anti music as some claim.
Amazing
Thank you for sharing that, it explains so much. Music is so central to my life and wellbeing I couldn't imagine living without it
I did Art therapy when I filed for divorce 5 years ago. It was the absolute best thing I could've done for myself.
@kaloarepo288 No music is harram in islam, so called golden age of " islam" ironically has nothing to do with islam, if you want to give credit to islam you have to give credit to atheism for most the science we achieved today and Christianity and most other religions which is a bad argument, science have nothing to do with scientists religions or cultural back ground.
It’s revealing that despite this prohibition every single Muslim country has a long tradition of music. Interestingly it was Arab Muslims who introduced the Oud (stringed instrument) into Spain.
The lutes originate from Egypt and Babylon, many many years before the introduction of the lute in Spain and the Greeks played the lute 1000 years before Christ
People ultimately recognize crap when they see it, and refuse to go along.
The greatest practitioners of North Indian classical music were Muslim. That is why the language of Bollywood's music is Urdu, and its greatest composers, singers, songwriters largely Muslim.
@@ArmageddonIsHereYeah many Muslims seem to have a difference of opinion. They object to some of the styles not all music and then there are some who object to all music. This guy knows than, hence the largest growth in Islam are the Hispanics
@@ArmageddonIsHere The language of Bollywood is Hindi, not Urdu. The reason there are Muslim singers, musicians, and composers in India is due the fact that they live in a Hindu majority country. Music, singing, and chanting is essential to Hinduism and is encouraged. That's why there are major Hindu Bollywood singers and classical musicians. If any these people lived in a Muslim majority country, you wouldn't have heard of them.
@@shylanambiar4316 Agreed with everything you said about this Hindi-Urdu divide is basically crap. It's just the same language, a different register. Urdu is a persianized register and Hindi is a Sanskritised register, spoken Hindi or Urdu is somewhere between both these registers along with localised flavours
I can’t imagine a world without music.
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A long, long time ago
I can still remember how that music
Used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
Something touched me deep inside
The day the music died
i just feel bad this muslim women has to have this ugly fuck commentate and look at her video. sad days
Iblis advocate here, maybe that is the problem?
Music is wonderful but sometimes it can distract us, sometimes we become almost dependent on it.
@@lm7338Why is that a problem, mate? Please be specific.
4 of my favourite things in the world are drinking with friends, music, burgers and dogs. I don’t think I’d be a good Muslim.
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"Amen" to that! I also love music, dogs, and an occasional hard cider or drink. Simple pleasures of life should not be criminalized for religion or God, in my opinion. Religions that do criminalize such things are 'high demand' religions, which are cult-like. I feel sad when people convert to Islam but happy for those who had the sense to leave the cult.
@@keij9445 I’m happy for people to come and go from religions, just as long as they are happy.
“Being tested by Allah is an honor”? Jeez she’s not brain washed at all. Right? Right? Poor girl 😢
@@HalalBaconator It’s just sad.
I gave up music when I was a Muslim and I can tell you that music is one of the most awesome and soothing things in life
No more darkness than Islamic way.
Satan hates Happiness and in name of Piety you are being deceived. Getting rid of your Happiness is the first way to make you believe that you are righteous and you are the good ones to kill all other people. Wow. Islam makes you desperate huh....this is openly Satanic....
I as a Christian cant never ever imagine a Christian life without Music.
Rejoice for the good tidings came to you. Lord Jesus christ will be born for you and you spread the good news.
Merry Christmas. Jingle bell jingle bell jingle all the way....🎉❤
Music is actually the very first form of communication. Drums and flutes brought news.
😂 as a habesha jew eritrean I know that is why pharaoah said Mohammad and allah is liars when they Enter Egypt and did black genocide for arab islamic supremacy on african land after Macedonia Balkan Alexander the great defeated our black Kemeet egyptian Empire and White washed it with these mega bum bedouins who came from Europe
Interesting fact
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Life is better with music; there's nothing wrong with it at all.
right, life is not worse with music but it is better with music/art/technology.
There are studies that show, that music can impact our mood long-term, increasing depression or anxiety.
I am sure that kind of music is for sure haram and for a very good reason.
And look at music today. The lyrics are horrible and promote a haram way of life. It's disgusting what some artist put out there. So this is an other good reason why music is haram.
I am sure drinking alcohol feels also good but it is still haram.
Everything what is forbidden is forbidden for good reasons.
@@jaa24327 Yes, of course it depends on one's taste. I find some of the music and lyrics of today's music repulsive (WAP BY Cardi B) for example, but then again my parents didn't approve of some of the music I listened to either.
Studies have also shown, however, that learning to play a musical instrument improves academic achievement.
With all due respect, we can't possibly have a cohesive society, though, where some people (like me) consider music an essential part of civilization while others consider it a sin. This is why separate countries are better than trying to have some driving on the right side of the road, and others on the left in the same country, figuratively speaking of course.
I don't mean this as an insult, but I get the same cringe feeling when I hear the call to prayer as I get from WAP, and just wish we could live in our own countries under the system we prefer, like good neighbours, and not interfere. It's just a naive dream, I know.
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show scientific reserach of what you are claiming blindly, right now!
@@lylecrawford2794 But we already live as good neighbours. If you want to listen to music nobody stops you. If you don't want to listen to music that is harder because for example retail shops often play music or movies always have music etc. Even in countries with the majority of Muslims music artist exist. The only thing someone can do is to avoid music as much as possible if they don't to listen to music
So I don't get your point.
I personally think that the negative impacts of music outweighed the positive.
And for example acapella is not forbidden if the lyrics are okay and there is still nasheeds. Listening to a beautiful recitation of the Quran is for most people a healing of the heart which music can't give them
Music is about exploration and freedom of expression, of course islam forbids it
Exploration & Freedom of Expression leads towards Questioning so it only makes sense a Cult like Islam forbids it.
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@@gamertech7707How does Islam promote having more than 1 wife? From what I've read having multiple wives was only really for the wealthy as by law you need to look after each wife equally so for example each must have a house of their own. They arent used for pleasure either and can't for example have threesomes.
@@sirrobbieiii1953 your prophet had multiple wives including a 9 year old child
If we take the Quran as a sort of biography of Muhammad, then isn't having multiple wives being promoted in Islam, as Muhammad had multiple wives and in the quran it is stated that Muhammad is a symbol that every men ought to follow
@gamertech7707 His marriages were either to align families and tribes or to look after widows the only exception to this was Aisha. I'm sure Islam forbids orgies so it's not like he used them all for pleasure alone. Especially since Islamically speaking penetrative sex is only allowed with the intent of having children.
Mate I'm not Muslim but I call out ignorant bullshit when I see it, you clearly know nothing about Islam and spread hate for the sake of it. Do better. If you want to criticise Islam then do so in good faith and with actual talking points worth arguing. You'd find that I probably agree with you on some of it.
Does it make sense to her that music is Haram but slavery and child marriage are halal?
Islamic logic everyone.
Similarly, spreading Islam by the sword is permissible/mandated but the use of musical instruments are prohibited and is a sin comparable to Zina.
moderate muslims don't know that but believe the opposite is true, so no point needing to speak this with them.
@@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude Moderate Muslims are all either willfully ignorant or dishonest. There is no in between.
They do not care for the reality of what their religion teaches, only what they think their religion teaches. Scum like them do not deserve to make use of the world's resources.
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 the Islam would hv spread much farther if they used musical instruments instead of swords. #fact
Religion endorses pedophilia. That and tribalism, which is a form of xenophobia.
You have no idea how incredible this video is for me... I was raised Muslim but I have an incredible passion and love for music. When I was severely depressed it was Music that gave me new perspective on life and helped give me the strength to move forward in life and in the process, I learned I had some musical talent/a musical mind.
I started to hear beautiful, original music in my head everyday and eventually started composing/creating music on my piano/on my computer. It got to the point where people would ask me to play my compositions/improvise music during school talent shows etc. and I've even had people tell me that my music has brought them to tears or helped them get through a tough time, just as music did for me when I first fell in love. The reason I share this is to show how powerful and incredible of an impact music has had on my life as well as others. People have been encouraging me to study music composition and I love writing music more than anything, the idea of giving that up or going to hell for that was truly heartbreaking and awful for me.
Also I FINALLY found what I'm looking for, that term Post-hoc realization. Every time someone would try to explain to me their reasoning for why music is bad/haram, they would all use weak/illogical arguments that, if applied to other things in life, would be grounds to make LITERALLY EVERY NON-RELIGOUS ACTIVITY HARAM (videogames, books, tv shows, sports, working out etc.) and I always felt that they there was just using reverse reasoning. To elaborate, I felt that, rather than using logic and evidence to find a strong conclusion, they were coming up with their own (often times weak/illogical) logic and evidence in order to rationalize a nonsensical, unexplained conclusion (that music is haram). They take something that doesn't make sense and try to make sense of it, and I understand why but it's infuriating to watch.
You got a link to your work? 😊
@joyfulfishman5445 "every non-religious activity being haram" - Indeed, myself being a nurse, I once met such a salafi guy who lived like that. He even used a piece of wood on which he chewed instead of a tooth brush. He wore the same clothes as Al Qaida. With the person I had to care for in that family, most of the time there was the life stream of Mecca - but this was underlayed with a gregorian style music. Well Pope Gregory lived around the same time as Muhammad, and this "music" indeed was Quran recitation. This muslim woman talking against music, she was so much culturally starved, that she even got emotional with a music style she seems not to have liked before. I mean, I do like gregorian music, yet I do not like it enchanting to me something I do not really want to listen to.
Let's say. The way how Muhammad is described, reminds me of a grandiose narcissist. Just as Aisha said: It seems that God agrees to whatever you say - And this kind of people can be indeed very jealous of everything that makes you a person. My mother was like that. When she died, my father would not know who he himself was. He had to find out himself, what he liked, what he thought (and he's highly intelligent). Every minute, that was not spent on my mother, was a crime in her eyes. - That's what Muhammad was like, too.
Please leave this filthy and sinful cult and become a true believer in Christ
@@Johnny-pi1vkDo you really expect to bring people to Christ with such anger and aggression?
since when islam is relevant and logical?
The worst part of her message was the constant guilt shaming, i mean , no one can ever become a good enough Muslim ever .
"There's no hate like Christen love". What they don't tell you is that "there's no depression like Islamic love"
That’s part of what makes it so sad.
Imagine having a musical mind. You played instruments, made up songs, can play back music on a piano, did choir, wanted to do musical theater.....but gave it up because of islam. It took me leaving islam to realize how stopping participating in music truly made me miserable. I saw a middle school friend a few weeks ago and her firdt question she asked, "are you still singing??" I cried my car afterwards.
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islam or religion just destroys our life bro.
@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude absolutely. I thought me giving that up would make Allah happy with me. Since I'll be following muhammad even more, and giving up something for Allah's sake is what we're supposed to. I even started to adopt a level of zuhd because once again that's what we're supposed to do. I thought I was doing right all the while negating my own thoughts and feelings.
That's heartbreaking, thanks for sharing and glad to hear you got out
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I believe we all have to go through those extreme feelings, religion ideas make us so much serious or brain dead person until we decide to question itself.
it's disgusting and sad to see what religion can make people do to themselves
the false ones only hurt , the right one elevate
@@planteruines5619 And I suspect you happen to know what the right one is?
@@OneTheBlue and i can speculate that you will disagree with me
@@planteruines5619 let me know if you found a religion that thought they are not the right one 😁
@@booshveg that is impossible, it goes against what a religion is
I understand what she wants to say - feeling good is haram, Allah wants you to hate life and love afterlife.
Apparently hearing music distracts your mind when you pray cos you can't concentrate. Logic shot itself in the head.
@@idkatthispoint-s9s So as doing everything then. You'll automatically think of it as you start praying.
True. I want to add my 50 cents here: it's also true that God gave music talent to some people so that we can enjoy music as a gift from him. I am talking about Christian God here. In my opinion, unnecessary self-denial comes from Satan. I compare Allah to narcissists who want to stop you from being yourself and enjoying things you love. Narcissists suck life out of you just like Allah. Allah is a narcissistic deity, it seems.
I remember in madrassah the teacher caught me listening to music and yelled at me and said that hot molden lead will be pored in my ear in the day of judgment. Me being 12 I began to cry. That always stuck with me. Anyway back to listening to Pearl Jam!
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It's evolution, Baby! 💀
@@Gothead420 hell yh!
You can't get much more 'heavy metal' than lead! Maybe teacher was a secret metal fan after all !?
Keep away from pizzlaam
I feel a deep sense of compassion for people who give up healthy things for religion. The control religion has over people is insane.
Whatever I left for the sake of Allah has always improved my life. Never going back ❤️
You were spot on Abdullah, this poor young woman (I believe without realising or intending to) made a very poor case for herself. She's implying throughout her video that music is amazing, it brings happiness, it feeds the soul etc but she's somehow better off for giving it up? And then basically admitting that she started to 'feel' the Quran because she was so desperate to hear something with a melody! Man, the stuff we used to say as believers to rationalise the nonsense.
As an ex Muslim, bug part of islam is minimising pleasure, Muhammad was paranoid and his way to know people are loyal to him is prohibition of things they enjoy, so either him or music in this case, plus people if they enjoying life here they wouldnt care to die for his cause and go meet 72 virgins, so he had to close all doors of pleasures here and left one open which that one after death lol
I hope she sees this.
The Quran is true medicine for the soul. Music distracts one from the remembrance of Allah.
@@Islamictruths99 There’s so much toxicity in the Qur’an as well. Can you tell me how it can possibly feed a woman’s soul to know her husband is allowed to beat her? Or that Muhammad was allowed to renege on his promise to not sleep with slave girls? And to kill apostates? There’s not much peace, unless you leave but the passages praising God.
I'm an atheist. In Christian church as a child, the singing of gospel songs and hymns was the only part i liked and actually looked forward to. The rest of the service was boring. The church being Bible-based, it followed a verse that says to "make a joyful noise unto the Lord, come before his presence with singing" and another verse that said "sing with the spirit and understanding". Unlike the Quran, the Bible is filled with descriptions of dancing and singing hymns of praise and gratitude. David is described as a great musician who sang and played a harp. A great wealth of glorious music has been inspired by biblical verses, both church singing and classical works such as Handel's Messiah. So Christianity, despite its many faults, is superior to Islam just for the music alone. I can't imagine how dreary it must be to grow up in the music-hating backward culture of Islam.
Louis Farrakhan gave up concert violin playing to become a leader of the Nation of Islam (an offshoot of the mainstream of course). Cat Stevens joined Islam as "Yusuf Islam" and forsook his musical career. Sinead O'Connor decided she was a Muslim and presumably quit her singing, although just after converting she was trying to sing the call to prayer (it sounded awful!). How anyone could give up such a beautiful thing as music for such a horrible thing as Islam is beyond me.
@@deewesthill1213^_^ yeah ! When the respectfull King David use music to worship God, when Jesus-Christ and his disciples use music to worship God. I agree, islam who go against the music for worship teach by God is not from the ONLY true God YAHWEH !
@@apologetiquesinvestigations In the words of an old jazz song, "Sing You Sinners": "Where there's music, the devil kicks, he don't like music down by the River Styx".
@@deewesthill1213 ^_^ I use knife to make my foods and the jihadists use knife to kill the non mohamedans
This is not a reason for me to stop use knife for my foods !
@@deewesthill1213 that abdulism condemn music is another argument that make this cult satanic
LOL WTF...HowTF a cult can hate music !!! Music is the expression of inherent yearning of freedom of human soul.
It's a cult where a simple Musical Instrument could destroy their faith. (For some apparent reasons)
@@darkshadow07186seems like you have no knowledge. sorry your ignorant
Well, a *cult,* indeed. 🙄
@@juv0022Do you listen to music?
The easy answer is explained by the girl. Most religions rely on Feeling. The claim is that you feel a special connection to the holy text that nothing else can provide. This feeling is empathy to what the text is saying, but Music can do the same thing. This makes it harder to stay in the faith because why should someone follow all the rules and such when things outside the faith give you the same feeling? Islam has an advantage in non-Arabic speaking countries because most haven't grown up with it, and they don't intrinsically know what is being said, so it sounds far more magical and spiritual to those unfamiliar. Banning music is necessary because you can get the same response to music as you do the Quran even more so because Music can be tailored to your preference. This is also why almost all art is banned because Islam doesn't want you to build an empathetic relationship to anything outside of the religion. If you can have the same emotional reaction to a piece of art as you do with the Quran the argument falls apart.
We used to keep butterflies and the butterflies would dance to the beat when we put on music. it truly is something that all living things cherish plants respond to music as well
I'm really glad you started to upload on a regularly basis again ❤
Yeah it's a hustle! Working hard on it
@@FriendlyExmuslim 👍
Hear, hear.
@@FriendlyExmuslimu
When I had converted to Islam, I had given up music too! I loved metal music and used to play many instruments, the electric guitar being my favorite and I used to compose songs too. I was so young so all of my family, friends and teachers were mad at me because they knew I was about to destroy my life. This in return gave me victim complex and I became more aggressive to every one who were trying to make me stay away from Islam and more passionately connected to Islam. Thank god my Muslim period didn't last too long. It lasted about 5 years. It was so hard to adapt to the Islamic way of living, I never fully adapted but my new lifestyle came very easily and naturally. Yet those shit head guys say that Islam is natural! !LOL!
You were an outsider, one with no familial ties to Islam, so you were lucky to be able to escape.
People who are born into it aren't so fortunate. They have to give up family bonds to escape Islam.
Think before you leap 😂😂😂😂😂😂. But harmones boiling up and I am a liberal so I can't think I only see😂😂😂😂
Once during Ramadan, I cut out music completely. Only listening to nasheeds and lectures. I did see some benefits but as an ex-Muslim now, the nasheeds and lectures were simply a replacement for a void. It only felt positive because I was depriving myself of any stimuli.
Now, I think everything should be within balance because (for me personally anyway) listening to music 24/7 really made me detach from reality.
I made it a thing to now either read a book or not listen to music on my way to work. It helps me stay present and not get in my head too much.
But it’s all about balance. Music is a beautiful art form and form of expression. We should indulge in it sometimes. Even with traditional music from different cultures etc. it’s beautiful.
I agree. I am always so awestruck by traditional music from so many countries, India, China, Japan are my favourites. Music allows one to understand different cultures, worldviews and it also broadens our minds. Too bad some religions are always there to control their believer's every action so they do not feel any sort of doubt towards their religious practices. This is classic cult behaviour.
I discovered her through TikTok. She's actually a very fun person. Too bad she forced herself to give up one of the biggest and most harmless joys in the world for 1400 yo myths.
go watch people raging in a mosh pit, go see people getting drunk in clubs and tell me it has no affect
@@juv0022
I mean I've seen video of what Isis did. It certainly looks like Islam has worse effect than music on people morality.
People reacting to music isn't a new thing, just because some people act retarded in concerts doesn't mean music itself is bad.
Music also includes things like classical, lofi, relaxing and love songs. Not everything is rock and roll
@@kanyeet5162 so lets compare, how many moshpits are there and how many people are in isis. lmfao ur a clown
@tubba-dg7to islam preaches prevention. if you have music you can never get rid of the bad types of music. sorry brother
@@juv0022 there are bad types of food too lol. You just stop eating? Or do you go on a healthy diet and restrict yourself from eating unhealthy junk like a reasonable person?
Same with video games, tv shows, movies, art, books.
There are bad books that are even considerd blasphemous in islam, do you stop reading books all together?
The reason there is bad in everything is because we're humans and we're more complex than just being pure angels.
I didn't listen to music for 15 years either. My narcissistic ex used religion to control us and make a complete mess out of our lives. Thank goodness, I'm out of that! Now I dance and enjoy my music every day! lalalalala
Music is the language of our soul.All things can be used for good and bad, it up on the person how to use them.
Is this _"soul"_ in the room with us? 😐
@@Gothead420 Do you know what soul mean?
@@ramilbraganza8103 Well, if you mean that unproven thing that supposedly still exists after death: yeah, that's nonsense...
If you mean what we call a "mind", I didn't mean that.
The Quran should be the language of your soul. Music distracts one from the remembrance of Allah and while we may not know the whole reason as to why is is forbidden, Allah knows best.
@@Islamictruths99 Spoken like a true cultist: your imaginary Sky daddy would be proud of you...😉
This is what Islam does to its followers - make them sad, depressed, and fearful, and not focusing your current life, but also making them thinking it is for their own good. 😢
"There's no prison like Islamic love"
Thank you Abdullah for your gentle and humble approach regarding the issues you discuss and bring forward in your videos.
As a fundamental Christian one of the main ways I challenge Muslims in what they believe and practice is to genuinely think through what they believe, why they believe, and how they practice their beliefs. Muslims assert that they believe the Torah and Gospel. The Torah explicitly teaches that not only were Jews (under the direction of Moses) commanded and encouraged to produce instruments for use during worship services there were dedicated singers for the temple and Tent of Meeting. If music is haram why would God command music services including both varied instruments and singing in His Temple? The truth is Islam does suck the life out of people.
Islam reminds me of the Borg on Star Trek. If people do not assimilate and lose their humanity they are then destroyed. It is sad to see this young lady and countless others fall for the deception of Islam.
Thanks for video Abdullah. Enjoy another coffee and have a great weekend.
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Thank you for supporting the channel! 🙂
@@JohnStopman Thanks for the kind word. I am very thankful for these ex Muslims who are teaching those of us who are or were unfamiliar with Islam the real truth of Islam. I'm sure you know about this other channel - Apostate Prophet. Another excellent source to see the depravity of Islam.
@@matthewn2559 AP! I found him very early on! ❤
To be good Muslim you need to first throwaway your brain 🧠 and then go ahead to enjoy being crazy
Thats wild because the largest group of doctors in America are Muslims. George W Bush personal doctor was Muslim. Lol. You guys are ridiculous.
You said it: it's about competition. Allah/Mohammad doesn't want any. When the musicality of the Quran is the only music, of course you'll find joy in it. I feel really sad, listening to her. Giving up small pleasures, suffering needlessly, and for what? An fictional afterlife?
Yeah, an afterlife where she can enjoy her 72 virgins, whether she wants to or not 😂
A.R Rahman from India who won two oscars for his BGM and musics in the movie slum dog millionaire is also a devout Muslim. He's been composing music since childhood, that was his only source of income when he was growing up. He's now the one of the best music directors around the world.
He's still a devout Muslim, I've listened to his interviews where he says he never misses a prayer even when he is composing with top artists.
So according to this girl , AR rahman should have given up music's in his childhood and should have missed out this opportunity in his life to be an oscar winner?
In fact, god is the one who gave him this talent, which harms no one and also most importantly help other people to heal / motivate / feel peace etc, that benifits in improving mental health of humans?
Man! This religion definitely influences people so much that they lose their reason and logic!
#Exmuslim
Condemnation of singing and music in Islam
Ma’aazif is the plural of mi’zafah, and refers to musical instwruments (Fath al-Baari, 10/55), instruments which are played (al-Majmoo’, 11/577). Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated from al-Jawhari (may Allaah have mercy on him) that ma’aazif means singing. In his Sihaah it says that it means musical instruments. It was also said that it refers to the sound of the instruments. In al-Hawaashi by al-Dimyaati (may Allaah have mercy on him) it says: ma’aazif means drums (dufoof, sing. daff) and other instruments which are struck or beaten (Fath al-Baari, 10/55).
Evidence of prohibition in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
Allaah says in Soorat Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning):
“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]
The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).
Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).
Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this includes all manner of haraam speech, all idle talk and falsehood, and all nonsense that encourages kufr and disobedience; the words of those who say things to refute the truth and argue in support of falsehood to defeat the truth; and backbiting, slander, lies, insults and curses; the singing and musical instruments of the Shaytaan; and musical instruments which are of no spiritual or worldly benefit. (Tafseer al-Sa’di, 6/150)
@@adnanrashtogi4553 what are you trying to say?
@@atheistexmuslimindianhonestly what did he say!
Is instrument bad or singing bad?
One paragraph contradicts the other 😅😅😅
If singing is bad then also a r Rahman is guilty, if instruments is bad then also a r rehman is guilty 😂😂😂
@@lakshmikrithika2521 i know right, these people just quote some verses and try to justify ! Just some logical thinking and reasoning will do.
@@atheistexmuslimindian this proves Islam is none other than a Dangerous Cult hiding by the name of "Religion of Truth or Peace"
Piss actually...
Funny joke,2muslim women get in a taxi and on the ride they tell the taxi driver to turn the radio off because they're muslim and explained that during the time of mohamet they werent radio and music,so 1 mile later the taxi drive slams on the brakes and tell them to get out,he explains that during the time of mohamet there weren't any taxis so it"s better if they wait for the next camel😂
I think this kind of extreme religious practice can cause people to develop mental illnesses like OCD, paranoia, etc. You can see here how she talks about music is not the way someone with a healthy relationship with it would.
Without Music there is no Life ..Our Sikh Gurus were talented in Musical Instruments and they dedicated Music to Vaheguru...So sad that people insult Music...
You sikhs join hands with faith which killed guru teg bahadur
This is really hard to watch. I feel so sorry for her.
She is a very nice soul.
Hope she finds how to get out of that prison called Islam.
Thanks for this. I hope she and other religious people understand eventually that opinions like no music are the opinions of the person who created that belief system, not a deity or deities. This is completely a human creation.
Her assumptions are so fascinating. Not everyone craves music or needs it. Granted I'll listen to it to dance but I rarely listen to music at all. Sometimes music manipulates emotions and I most times I do not want to feel certain things. I do not need music most of the time and that is ok. I might not want silence and if that is the case I'll listen to people talking. And if you are outside then it is rarely quite, you can listen to what is going on around you. Or you can think about yourself and notice your emotions, how you are breathing, or you can think. If she used music to regulate her emotions and emotional state then what is she feeling when she is not listening to music. Is she trying to avoid a series of emotions?
And Quran recitations sound musical (I described it as sounds like singing once to a Muslim and was told "No! not singing!) to me. I can see her getting a chemical hit she used to get from music by listening to a musical like Quranic recitation.
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@@user-eq6ct5tl7s And people who assert that supernatural deities exist and will be pleased by you giving up one thing or another should offer proof of existence before making assertions.
Music actually helps us to process our emotions.
Processing your Emotions will lead you to doubt things that's why Islam forbade things that will lead you to Process your own Emotions such as Music or Figurative Arts.
Why is music Haram?
Partly because music is more fun than the mosque.
This has to be one of the saddest monologues I've ever heard...
You know, there are certain kids who are born more musical than others, and you can tell she is one of them. It clearly fueled her soul but what she fails to see is it's not a given for everybody.
Islam implies that we're all equally impacted and obsessed with music, reason why we have to give it up. But it's plainly false, some people can go without, some people need silence, some people love it, some couldnt care less.
it's sad to see such a young lady, with purest intentions, waste her serene former existence over a lie.
Much like the demonization of sexuality, this is another self-fulfilling profecy.
you are absolutely right !! And I know that because I’ve been in that girl’s shoe. it’s basically lying to yourself to feel better , even tho you’re not , but hoping that someday it will , and it should ,because that’s what god said right? JOURNEY OF MADNESS
my cats love curling up on the piano. Playing for them is a true sacrament. They're safe - they'll never be poisoned by Allah.
Muslims favour cats 🐈??
Is that Evil cat that dare to walk on quran 🤭😹
lol at the last part.
@@truthseeker3219 Based
Cats are pagans.
In order to follow Islam your soul has to be almost dead 😅. Then the Quran can help you when your soul becomes a zombie
The Quran will you gave you answers that you cannot question or else you're a Kufar (Hypocrite) or Shaytan (Devil)
i saw the prequel this woman made to this video some weeks ago and agree 100% with Abdullah Sameer's take on this. It seems almost tragic, particularly since she seems like a sincere person and she is clearly looking for meaning in her life. What a pity she has found it in the wrong place.
Music is part of our history as human beings. Music brought us together in prehistoric times and still holding us together. Music remainds us that we are equal persons with the same emotions. Music is our first language. Unfortunately islam is going against many good things which constitutes us as human beings.
Not to mention the legal and/or social pressure in Muslim communities (even in the West) to perform all the daily prayers and (dry) fast for a month in Ramadan. You don’t NEED to do any of these time-wasting and hazardous things to be a good person.
The more I listen to Islam's adherents the more I see the cognitive dissonance it calls for.
Shes probably going to become one of the strongest exmuslim there is.
The biggest devours become the biggest opposers.
It’s a wave here in Indian subcontinent. Those who studied to be imams and were associated to tablighi jamat for 20+ years. After successful completion left Islam in such distaste that they’re now openly challenging the clerics on live television.
It’s a shock honestly. How I’ll-informed their own clerics were. It’s understandable because of the Arabic language barrier.
But these ex-Muslims went one step ahead and learnt Arabic just for the sole purpose of debating the clerics who otherwise would twist the Arabic meanings into something appropriate to them.
@@lakshmikrithika2521 Yeah I am aware of Sahil and gang and Sachwala... great people.
I really hope so! She seems to be an eloquent and intelligent person. Seth Andrews was also a Christian radio host before he became an atheist.
Music is used by many people around the world to keep themselves in touch with their inner Human [i.e our inner selves we are all born with]. Whithout it, many would succumb to their meandering thoughts [chaos] going nowhere...
I love life and therefore I love music, without it we lose ourselves.
Music is good but not necessarily a must. being an old guy I know personally who would have heard music a total 10-20 hours, yet fulfilled. Having music on hand with all the technology music seems ubiquitous and must for life now.
Rightly said bro
She’s trying to justify isl@m by saying that life is a struggle, but then why do Muslims like to quote the hadith of abu hurayra “isl@m is easy and not a rigour”.
Contradictions are everywhere in !sl@m…as always.
And they will desperately deny this as usual sadly...
@darko7mc186 I used to think most Muslims stay devout because they can at least feel "good" about themselves. But here it's clear that even when they talk about "Allah's love" they just sound sad
Do these idiots know music is even found in nature? Like the animal's voice, such as the bird's song or the peaceful sound of lake water. On the other hand, everything in nature is a rhythm. The rain, for example, has its own rhythm. Rhythm is also hidden in the ocean waves or even in the sunrise and the sunset. These Muslim majority nations all had musical cultures. Before the sorrow came. If you ever watched the film Trolls, those ogre things in the beginning are depicting Muslim societies.
islamists are too much ignorant dude, they just loose ability to understand the science behind it.
Psalm 98:4 _Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth; Break forth in song, rejoice, and sing praises._
and there is music and singing in heaven too.
fake heaven maybe
@@juv0022 but the Islamic one of having orgies with ur numerous virgins is real🤨😂
In my fantasy land, we also have podcasts, for everyone that wants to listen to something else, once in a while...oh, and we have all the weed...like, ALL OF IT.🤣
@@juv0022Do you really believe that there are 7 heavens?
Interesting to note, Sinéad o Connor, touted by Islam as a “ revert” , never gave up her music. She still performed after her “ conversion” . It seems like Andrew Tate, famous personalities can continue doing what they were doing while the rank and file must adhere to all the tenets of Islam.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Exactly. You don't seem go after Yusuf Islam either. So much for fairness.
Yes, I went to see Abdullah Ibrahim and Ekaya in concert years ago, and have their "Water from an Ancient Well" album.
On the other hand search for the Saudi Arabia national anthem played at the 2023 Formula One race for an example of people who need more practice.
Music is beautiful - it depends on what type of music. But yea life without music would be boring, and a struggle for me because I go to the gym and it helps me to be motivated at the gym
Sounds like torturing yourself just fir the sake of it.
She never even explains what damage it's doing.
Why did Muhammad make music haram? Did music trigger his seizures, or was it a polemic against Christian worship music?
Im not even sure if he banned it or what the heck happened there. Sometimes vague statements turn into legal rulings
Farah seems like such a wonderful sweet wholesome person. It’s sad she’s apart of this religion. Honestly TOO much music can be a bad thing. Too much of anything can be but music is so integral to the human experience it shouldn’t be cut out entirely
I went through this terrible journey and totally regret how I didn't grow up as a good dancer
yeah well I'm a Christian so this idea is completely new to me. For things forbidden by the Catholic Church, there is at least some genuine reasoning behind it even if not everyone would agree with the perspective. But music...it's not like there's only bad music. Music is like any art - you have the Florence Cathedral and you have Mozart, Beethoven, Sibelius, choral music - some music that is really high art, enduring for centuries, music that lifts up your soul. For example, listen to Ave Verum by William Byrd - brings you to tears, it's so beautiful. In Christianity, beauty is a really good thing and it often brings you closer to God by seeing it. Such is the case with many works of art.
We wouldn't be here today, if it wasn't for music, laughter and enjoy. Imagin the struggles of our early ancestors. How tuff and harsh the world was that surrounded them. Music was that light that make living a little easy.
Believing the religion seriously costs.... sanity !
21:58 Lady, there is no such thing as a ''sweetness of life'' a person achieves simply because s\he stops listening to music. Sounds to me you are forcing yourself to believe a meaningless idea that you've accepted because it is imposed upon you, but makes no real sense at all. Just like speech, the only thing that taints speech is one's choice of words, whether they are wholesome or unwholesome.. And music is the same, in that there is nothing wrong outright with music, and the only time music becomes tainted or immoral is when the lyrics - the *words* - are unwholesome, either because they are lustful or full of cursing or glorifying violence and such things.. It's a no-brainer. This is the *only* time music can been classified as unwholesome. I believe a simple rule of thumb is if you can't play it to or in-front of your children then the words are usually unfit for anyone. I am very into opera and classical music and piano classics such as Erik Satie's ''Gymnopédies & Gnossiennes''; and there is NO WAY any Muslim can listen to the piano classics album ''Gymnopédies & Gnossiennes'' and point a single thing that's immoral or unwholesome about it. And the simple fact is no Muslim can. It has no lyrics to taint it, yet it is music. I workout about 5-6 times per week, and as a Londoner I grew up listening to Jungle\Drum and Bass, which is what I workout to, every single time... and again, most of it really has no lyrics; and there's nothing about such music that a Muslim can listen to and pick out an immoral aspect to point to. Islam clearly contains a lot of meaningless man-made teachings that have been elevated to fake divine status, and sadly people like this young girl force themselves to accept such meaningless man-made rules as something divine. If you feel the need to stop people from listening to music, Muslims, then you are also implying that people shouldn't make sounds to communicate - since it is only speech that can possibly taint music - or that the birds should all be shot down in order to silence them, or that whales should all be killed to stop them from singing... You begin to see just how bonkers, meaningless and manmade such Islamic teachings really are. They are senseless.
You look really handsome especially in this lighting. Not even kidding it's most of the reason I keep watching your videos
lighting doesnt matter if someone is good looking. Nobody should be filming in dim
Thank you James!
Whoever calls music haram may they also declare the song of birds haram.
No music, no art. It’s from the devil he doesn’t want people to have joy in life or death honestly because their heaven sounds like hell honestly
What's the essence of life if one is not happy with being happy the entire day.?
Oh dear, my father in law is an acknowledged musician and my husband took this passion for music after him, but as he became more and more religious growing up he had to give up his passion. I see how much he struggles. Unfortunately prohibits it for the kids as well, but recently the kids downloaded a piano app, and he heard them playing, then he grabbed the tablet and didn't repremand them for that though as I expected, but started playing it himself, like a child, with such a genuine joy, which soon got mixed with pain and guilt at the same time. My heart broke at that moment. I'm an exmuslim, he still is a believer and struggles with continuing our marriage as well, but that's another story. I've never seen him happy, only tears and anxiety because of his belief😢
What is so sad is that many muslim majority countries have the most amazing music and talented musicians. Our brains are highly stimulated by music. There is so much personal and community benefit to music and how a lot of our histories were transmitted by music.
Yes.I was told guitar was haraam and missed out on developing my musicianship for 6 years. Out of all religions Islam is the one that takes fun out of life with its stupid prescriptions
The more they try to prove their religious believes, the more creepy they are. Especially Muslim community.
I'm not listening to music for the most time but I would never give it up.
13:07 Instant U-turn when I once forgot my headphones while driving to the gym! Music is hella motivating, and distracts from the suffering.
Great reaction video. I was so happy when I saw the title. So many people from the Muslim community who try to become all righteous give up music. I’m a Muslim as well and I believe that music is one of the most beautiful things on earth. I could never give it up. Sacrificing such an awesome thing would be so horrible.
islam makes you consider madness as one's pride
It is. Muslim outside of Arabia who will protect Islam more than those back home!!
@@RSingh-lv1ro
You asked me to tell prove your religion is pagan??
Well, let me bring you proof nkt assumptions or claims!
As Muhammad developed Islam he borrowed from the other regional religions present in the Mideast. These religions include Judaism, Christianity, Sabeanism, Zoroastrianism, and forms of paganism. Judaism is the largest contributor to Islam, followed by Christianity, then followed by the various pagan religions, and Muhammad’s mind.
These pagan borrowings constitute significant facets of Islam and I will bring details some of these pagan contributions… to islam!
paganism is an integral root of Islam; paganism is part of it's theology, history, ceremony, and veneration…
So, where did Islam get the 5 times a day prayer from??
What about fasting during Ramadan? - . The Eid? -( to be continued)
1-PAGANISM IN ISLAM
Islamic theology has some of its roots in various pagan beliefs. Primary to Islam is it's most holiest shrine: the Kaaba 🕋
--THE KABA
The Kaba is now the most revered sanctuary of Islam. It is located in Mecca in south Arabia as we all know,Muslims throughout the world direct their prayers toward the Kaba..,
(In Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661)
In Pre-Islamic history tells us that many Arabian tribes were stone worshippers. This is also mentioned in The Old Testament even talks about Mideast pagan groups that worshipped stones. Muhammad incorporated the Kaba's paganistic roots into Islam to give the Muslims a sense of identity, legitimacy, and uniqueness. He also wanted to ease the Arab's strain of moving from paganism to Islam, by continuing the practices of their fathers….
Référence:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol 5, #661)
Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. Abu Raja' added: When the Prophet sent with (Allah's) Message, I was a boy working as a shepherd of my family camels. When we heard the news about the appearance of the Prophet, we ran to the fire, i.e. to Musailima al-Kadhdhab.)
Who was :Musailima al-Kadhdhab
Musailima al-Kadhdhab,
was a claimant of prophethood long before Muhammad, Muhammad took the name Muslim from him mocking him! This is the origin of the name Muslim!
The ruling House of Saud of Saudi Arabia belongs to him which present day descendants ..
He, Musailima was
from the Banu Hanifa tribe,of which present day descendants include the House of Saud among other Najd tribes.
Based from Diriyah in present day Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, he claimed to be a prophet long before Muhammad and was an opponent of islam in 7th-century Arabia. His descendants rule south Arabia today!
PAGAN GODS AND RITUALS in Islam!
There were 360 idols around the Kaba. The pilgrimages to the Kaba were all pagan pilgrimages, the ritual processions around the Kaba were part of pagan beliefs and custom, the white robes worn by the pilgrims were from pagan faiths( Hindu priests)the veneration of the Kaba and black stone are derived from pagan rituals ( shiva) and beliefs.
Pagans called out the names of their pagan gods as they circled the Kaba, today, Muslims call out Allah's name. Pagans ran between the nearby hills, Muhammad authorized Muslims to do that in the Quran, and ran between the hills himself. Like his encestor!
The chief pagan god worshipped there was Hubal,( ya sin) ( Quran 36 chapter is dedicated for ya-sin) the god in charge of the moon!
who was called the god of Mecca and of the Kaba. mentioned in the Quran. The goddesses al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat were also worshipped there and are mentioned in the Quran...
It is thought that the Kaba was originally set up for astral worship. Golden suns and moons are repeatedly mentioned as the votive gifts. Some pagans regarded the Kaba as a temple devoted to the sun, ( akbar) and the moon, ( allah) and 5 planets.
THE BLACK STONE
The black stone played a prominent role in pagan worship. The pagans offered animal sacrifices there. But the idol of the black stone replaced the alter; on the black stone they smeared the blood of the sacrificed animals.long before Islam!
Muhammad made up historical references for the Kaba. Muhammad claimed that Abraham and Ishmael laid the foundations of the Kaba (Quran 2:127). Muhammad claimed that God ordained the Kaba as a sacred house (Quran 5:97).
Muhammad also claimed that it was the first temple ever built for mankind (Quran 3:97).
Only Muhammad claimed that it was a place built by Abraham. In looking in the Old Testament and Torah we find no mention of Abraham traveling to Mecca to build a house of worship
the late Taha Hussein, one of the most famous Egyptian professors of Arabic literature said that the Islamic myth of Abraham building the Kaba came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. He comments: ( quote)
"""The case of this episode is very obvious because it is of recent date, and came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. Islam exploited it for religious reasons". Quoted in 'Mizar al-Islam' by Anwar al-Jundi.
Taha Hussein à salafist
was one of the most influential Egyptian writers and intellectuals, and a figurehead for the Arab Renaissance and the modernist movement in the Arab world in the book
Mizar al-Islam' by Anwar al-Jundi.
Said that:
It was very obvious that The claim that Abraham and Ishmael went to Mecca because it is of recent date, and came into vogue just before the rise of Islam. And Islam exploited it for religious reasons"..
Abraham never been in Mecca!
A Muslims brain should be used for case study,,for what happens to the brain when it's not used..
I was expecting her to say that all the music nowadays is the work of Shaytan. She seems innocent enough but this Islamic musicophobia is gross and bad. In Afghanistan a famous singer was killed by the taliban because he made music.
Yes life sucks and we suffer because Allah makes it so, it's him testing us. It's an honour, he loves us. Islam is so twisted.
I felt that if someone decide to give up music or etc, it's entirely up to them but if one still hold on to that particular religion that degrades them like "mutah, half brain, same level as dogs or not allowed to pray because of period" is puzzling but it's their freedom to chose their faith
Even before humans learnt to speak we were playing music and this lead in the development of our language learning and Islam says it’s haram. Actually Islam is haram.
As someone who has piano talent in a thousand miles radius and plays anime music and posts often this is depressing af , I live in Karachi ,my parent have tried indirectly telling me it's haram but once my passion lit they stopped caring and instead used to tell me to tone down voice, I was playing in Ramadan as well, although my parents are almost jihadist level serious in Islam, it's funny to me how many Muslims ignore basics and calls themselves Muslims here in my uni, I'm happy they are this way thou lol, sadden me as well because I love them so much and want them to be atheist
If you are an atheist yourself, I have a question for you. What do you base your morality on? Put simply, atheists have no grounds for objective, universal morality. Each atheist can have their own version of what is right or wrong. What makes rape or murder wrong to an atheist? How about smoking or drinking? How about interest (increasing amount of money due), or pre-marital sex? What makes any of these moral or immoral. Muslims follow the Quran, which comes from God, the all-knowing. As God knows humans better than they know themselves, it makes perfect sense that He would give us the perfect way to live our lives. But how do atheists live a moral life?
Sacrifycing development of the mind for a cult that is false, that's so stupid. Playing music makes good things happen in the brain.
The reason the recitation of the quran makes her feel more after quitting music is because of dopamine deprevation. Same thing happened to me when i was in jail. For a whole week all i had for entertainment was looking at the wall. No newspaper no tv anything. Didnt even get to talk to other inmates. Then after that week they put me in a cell with a small television and like 3 channels. I was so exited to get any sort of simulation so even watching the commercials was a blast haha 😅 Same thing here. If the only melodies she gets to hear are quran recitations her brain is going to latch on to that.
the more I learn about Islam, the more I find to dislike about it
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So, according to this girl’s understanding of what it means to have a strong spiritual path in life, Allah is testing you by making you an uptight, miserable f*ck, sucking all the joy and happiness out of your existence to please a deity you’ve never seen or met? That’s gonna take a huge toll on your mental health, sister. Thankfully, the majority of Muslims don’t practice this kind of masochistic self flagellation in their day to day lives and are able to function normally and interact with the outside world without constantly policing themselves as if the world is full of hazards threatening to send you off a steep cliff! Jezus! 😢 It would be so exhausting.
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I can understand avoiding certain genres of music, especially when you hear how vile some of the lyrics and music videos are. But why is chanting / call to prayer allowed, if music is so bad. It's technically singing. BTW when I went to Egypt, everyone around me was listening to Arabic music.
I really don't understand what kind of God hates music. I'm a Christian and I listen to a lot of worship music praising God.
There are also wedding songs, nursery rhymes etc Islam demonizes EVERYTHING.
I actually went to an Islamic prayer room this week, I was with a friend. It was depressing, I felt a weight lift when I left.
Islam is mental slavery. My friend dresses modestly but when she prays she has to wear an abaya, wash her hands, face and feet, it's sad.
Yes, I played music during my pregnancy and my daughter sings the whole day now.
I like that you post more often now 😊 we missed you!!!
Perhaps if someone told her that life would be less of a struggle, if she stopped subscribing to a philosophy that insists she inflicts misery on herself, it might help her get things in proportion? There's more than a hint of masochism in there.
a very good example of religious indoctrination . music is the essence of life . i feel so sorry for this young lady because not even her holy book prohibits musis its the indoctrination and lies from the mullahs and islamic scholars
But *Abdullah,* isn't listening Quran haram since the recorded sound is an artificial human voice? Allah gives hell to those who try to express living things! 🤐
I'm Hindu and I couldn't imagine a world without music or beats or songs. It's also deeply in our culture and apart of our identity. It's crazy that Islam forbids even music.
Honestly with a conversation I had with my Dad. I came to the depressing conclusion that devout Muslims in general have such an incredibly pessimistic outlook on life, they legitimately think of themselves and their loved ones as totally worthless. He says its unbelievable that people would doubt Allah, the greatest thing in the universe who created everything and guides everything and everyones actions.
Just hearing that made it so upsetting, imagine believing that your "merciful, heroic" God ultimately controls everything and everyone as his pawns, to create you for any purpose with no freedom to chose.
Giving up music is giving up being joyful and giving up being human. Exactly what Islam demands of its followers in " this life " . But no human can never help not hearing music that other people make . But that is Allah's mistake in not giving humans the abilty to shut their ears at will ! 😄
I will be surprised if islam survives the next decade
I guess most things that bring us joy should be positive,just can't imagine how one could choose such a sad life over something joyful and natural existence because of some human made up stories.
😂 I stopped listening to music..... then learnt to play flute and piano 😅 best thing I've done 🎉
One of my friends has also just done this. Ignorance truly is bliss.
Bliss wouldn't be the right word, she and most Muslims like this just sound desperate and sad
Music is haram, art is haram
Wtf to live for?
To pray 5 times a day, starve for a month and stuff yourself and knock up 4 women to get more husks to continue the cycle
To damn as many souls as you can.
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THIS right here.. Islam really makes u think that way , she’s not making that up . I used to think the same way, and it sickened me so bad …
Reading the comments over there at her channel really might let you reconsider your statement about her trying to be a good person. People actually get convinced by this crap that music is not good or even harmful.
well i have empathy because i was like her myself. but oh yeah im sure people get convinced. thats why we need to counter this nonsense
Looking at this reminds me of the "equilibrium" film
I LOVE music but, I do think music holds a certain amount of power in our emotions. I stopped listening to music that made me angry years ago, and I had to learn to not listen to sad music when I was depressed. It takes maturity and wisdom, to be in touch with your emotions.
Enjoying life is Haram!