A couple things should be noted: First: The reason why M.2 NVME SSDs are so fast isn’t because it plugs directly into the motherboard, it is because it runs off of a different interface to HDD and SATA SSDs called PCI-Express. It works by connecting the SSD directly to the processor instead of going through SATA controllers, it also has more wires for transferring data than SATA does. This mode of transferring data is what your graphics card uses. If your motherboard doesn’t have an M.2 drive connector you can get a PCI-Express card, this plugs into a PCI-Express slot on your motherboard, and the M.2 NVME Drive connects to that card. With this you will see very little speed loss if any at all. Second, not all M.2 NVME SSDs require a heat sink, some of them simply do not run fast enough to need one. The only ones in need of a heat sink are some of the fastest ones. Though I would still recommend getting a heat sink, they just aren’t necessary.
PCI Express isnt the protocol, its the interface. NVMe is the protocol. There are also SSDs using the M.2 form factor, but are SATA SSDs. So there are M.2 SATA and M.2 NVMe SSDs.
Technically SATA actually uses PCIe as its interface with the CPU, just goes through a controller to interface with the drive. SATA uses less lanes then NVME, which is why motherboards often have to disable SATA ports 0 and 1 if NVME is being used. This is also why Sata controllers can be found on little PCIe expansion cards, and as @rapst0r mentioned that m.2 drives can use SATA.
If your motherboard doesn’t have an M.2 drive connector you can get a PCI-Express card, this plugs into a PCI-Express slot on your motherboard, and the M.2 NVME Drive connects to that card. With this you will see very little speed loss if any at all.Sure.. but you'd need a USB flash storage to boot the NVMe if it is plugged in to the PCI-Express card; since they will not boot automatically.
One heat sink is present on the motherboard for ssd already. There is also another slot for nvme m.2 ssds nowadays but there isn't a heatsink pre provided in the motherboard. You'd have to get one. I watched someone installing an ssd in thst slot but the slot was near to the gpu slot. And when putting a big gpu, the there wasn't much of a space to put a heatsink unless there are some thin ones available in the market which I am not aware of. Are there any available? And btw if chose to not go with a heatsink on the second drive then should install the windows in the one with the hestsink or in the one without the heatsink?
List of things wrong with this video. -"NVMe Drive" is not a thing, they're Solid State Drives that use the Non-Volitile Memory Express transfer protocol, best term would be NVMe SSD. -The drive you called an SSD is a SATA SSD, it uses the same interface and transfer protocol as the mechanical hard drive -SATA never hits 600mb/s because of protocol overhead and no SATA SSD advertises a 600MB/s transfer speed, same reason why USB 3.0 Gen 2 doesn't hit 1200MB/s (it's theoretical maximum) -Internal SATA drives usually have better performance than external drives because they have far less access latency. No matter how high that transfer speed number is, USB drives will always have more access latency. -NVMe SSDs also have multiple different standards and only a few can actually hit 7GB/s. Most also don't require a heatsink unless you're CONSTANTLY writing data to them. -NVMe SSDs are not faster because they attach directly to your motherboard. U.2 connections allow the use of 2.5" NVMe SSDs with a cable or backplane, this is what NVMe storage servers use.
Thanks for your response. The intent of the video was to appeal to the average person who doesn't even know what an NVME SSD is. It's simply not possible to get this nuanced in a 30 second video. Hopefully people that need to know more will do their research, or reference a comment like yours! For a 30s video you have to keep things overly simple or else no one will even bother to watch it.
20-30GB/s compared to the 6GB/s limit of SATA SSD, they are pretty crazy but you don't really need something like that unless you are constantly moving large files.
Samsung sata ssd is $170, Samsung nvme ssd is $200. They're more expensive but not that much. Granted the nvme I compared didn't have a heatsink, it's gonna be ~$30 more.
Ssd and nvme 10x shorter lifespan and burnout faster failure less reliable less able to fix than mechanical drives...also thumb drives and memory cards.
@@cjonwickham1933 Yep, which practically doesn't mean much unless your drive is almost filled and you're writing continuous video or something. It's well worth the time you'll save not waiting for an HDD to respond.
Yea, heatsinks on everything now are just for the looks, drives mostly take few seconds of load and than a long period of idle, thats why the things reviewers say about drive speeds are not important, because you will only stress an ssd for a few seconds if you are transfering a file under a gigabyte, and in you are reading game files while joining a match in a game, you are only reading a small ammount of the game overall size. For gaming an nvme drive is a nice to have for a boot drive so your system can just boot faster, but for mass storage drives? An ssd is sometimes even overkill for a game storage drive, and you can get more gigs per $ in you use a hdd with optane (it has some drawbacks too, you will need to spare an m.2 slot for it, it only speeds up loading of commonly used files so if you play a diffrent game every day it will do nothing, and you can only use it on an intel system)
@@inqizzo yh i knew a lot of this already. My nvme drive was way overkill for my intended use but as u said nice to have. It was almost the same price as ssd so I kinda just thought why not at the time. My Internet is rlly bad so everything kinda just throttles anyways especially for online games or downloads.
@@J1nx_exe If the 990 Pro doesn't need a heatsink, unless it is intentionally built as a heater, it probably would not need a heatsink. By the way, the NVMe SSD shown is a 970 EVO Plus so it definitely doesn't need a heatsink.
@@relims I'm not saying it needs one. All I said is high end models could benefit from having one. Meaning there could be a performance increase if you do use one. Do they need one? No. Could they run even better while having one? Yes. Is it overkill? Quite possibly
@@J1nx_exe sorry. I didn't make it clear. I meant they don't benefit from one. Unless you are burning through your SSD in a week, there is no point of a heatsink.
@@J1nx_exe wait. where did the 100 words essay go? I wrote a ~80 words comment saying you are technically correct but taking the 990 Pro as an example, it would burns through the drive's endurance in
Unless you're using a really high end drive you don't need one. Same goes for ram. Most come with a heat spreader but it's actually not necessary. The improvements are marginal and most of them are aesthetical at best
Only really a requirement on drives that use 10w or more total power when in use, so that would be high end 7200rpn HDD’s, 10k and 15k rpm HDD’s. Otherwise it should be fine without any direct cooling (provided there’s enough empty space around it)
You don't need a heatsync for your ssd, it will improve the speed by less than 1% sometimes, which falls within the random error margin. Just put it on the motherboard with nothing over it
Depends on the drive. Gen 3 drives dont need a hest sink. Gen 4 drives do. Gen 5 drives need active cooling or else the controller either thermal throttles itself and slows down or it overheats and crashes your os.
He only showed that NVMe drives could reach 7000 MB/s, but NVMe drives with PCIe gen 5 can reach speeds of 14000 MB/s. However, right now, it’s more common in most builds for NVMe drives to still be PCIe gen 4, meaning only speeds up to 7000 MB/s. Edit: Just realized that this video was uploaded before PCIe gen 5 was released, but it’s still good to know lol.
Got 2x8TB HDD and 2x4TB of M.2 on my Computer and 4x10TB Hard drive Storage on NAS. (And a 256GB Standard SSD in my PC too, but that some rookie numbers at this point) The point that these drive doesnt have as much capacity as advertised is a huge pain in the ass now and I have more that 6TB less than i should have :(
@@FireCestina1200that is if you just use it normally, hard drives suffer from simply being a mechanical component so at some point they will fail. Ssds on the other hand may last you decades (assuming your not moving tons of files), when it comes to shelf life hard drives always win at that compared to ssds.
@@hugonilsson6067 yes and no. Bios lives in the mb correct but on startup the bios goes through a checklist making sure everything works which only takes like 5 seconds then immediately try’s to find the boot drive (ssd or hard drive) so if you have a super fast ssd it will communicate faster therefore short boot up time. There’s a lot more that plays into this like a up to date bios and stuff but I’m not getting into all that. I’m basically saying both of you are correct.
NVMEs have also speed limits, If You put an NVMe SSD with a PCIe 4.0 connector to an NVMe PCIe 3.0 slot it will max out to speeds accepted by the NVMe PCIe 3.0 slot.
I hate it when I'm enjoying a quiet Saturday night with my pantaloons undressed, beside my container of paper tissues while doing my 'Homework' and my Mother barges into my chamber uninvited.
The controller on an NVMe SSD like to be cool, and a heatsink designed to cool just that is a good thing, you can find them anywhere online. But the flash on an SSD prefers running hot, it'll run faster and longer at higher temps. So be careful in saying you need a heatsink, usually you don't
Depends on where that ssd is installed. In a normal tower pc the airflow will probably be enough cooling. In a ps5 or a Notebook it could get warmer and a heat sink may make sense.
@@classicdufferin8739 Was using my NVMe I installed , then One day, it no longer works, checked using my reader, it doesn't work, but a new one works on pc and reader
After countless videos this is the one that worked for me. The edited description for the 0% bug was brill and helped so much. Cheers bro you earned a sub
Actually the 2nd is an SSD with a SATA connector (interface) and the 3rd is also an SSD but with an M.2 NVME connector (interface), which uses PCI-E connection, sometimes directly to the CPU's PCI-E lane, sometimes connected to the MBO's chipste's PCI-E lanes.
@@emyyrr1146 Have you bought one lately? Maybe different at the high-end of the spectrum, but most of them in the 250-1000GB range cost about the same or just slightly more than a SATA SSD, I've even found a few on sale for a little cheaper.
don't cry... HHD is more reliable. i had 4 SSD's fail on me within 4 years meanwhile my HHD running non-stop since 2014 still runs. I don't know who is testing these drives write totals. I think they hired the same guy that did volkswagon emissions testing.
@@i_zoru which is extremely difficult unless you are reading and writing large files for extended periods of time with absolutely no air movement over your ssd. many motherboards now alr have shields on the face that will act as just a larger heat sink so that the ssd can dump heat if it ever is somehow needed. heatsinks are only needed on really high end ssds that people plan on doing those extended read and write sessions with. Don't fall for the marketing!!
30 year IT Tech here... been witnessing many SSD failures. Many are still booting the os but are very slow with many corrupt files and some even locked read only. I recommend running os on SSD and storing data on platter drive. SMJ 23
NVMEs have been around for quite a while. Like a good 5,6 years while. Gen 5s are coming out in the upcoming months and atm you can get gen 4 or gen 3, obviously the higher you go the faster they go, in gaming or booting up your system you won't really notice any difference tho, it's in the file transfers, content creation or work related tasks are where faster NVMEs shine. Basically if you're Joe Schmo you don't need a gen 4 or 5 and can do just fine with a trusted gen 3 drive, for example Intel 660,670, Samsung 970 Evo (they are more of the higher end gen 3s but because they're 3 years old they get cheaper with time and on bargain sales)
they're exaggerating. Sassy and NVMe drives are close but they're still absurdly expensive compared to Hard drives I tried looking up a 4TB m.2 and its like $350 when the HDD would be like $100 💀
This guys such a good teacher, explained it well, slowly but not too slowly. Thanks man, if you see this you fixed my pc from an endless no boot loop 🙏
I’d really like it if people who are trying to educate people about PCs use terms correctly. 2TB hard drive - correct 2TB SSD - correct 2TB NVMe - not correct The third one is also an SSD, just like the second one. The difference is that it uses the M.2 form factor. An M.2 form factor SSD may use the NVMe protocol or it could use the SATA protocol. But either way, it’s still an SSD. For someone with a tech channel, this should be as basic as boiling water.
As a power user, there is a reason why NVMe drives cost so much more. If you need one, you know you need one and you'll pay for it. If you don't need one, you'll see the price tag, and you won't buy it. Very simple.
The thing is, I can't think of anyone who really uses a PC who couldn't utilize one. I do a bit of gaming, so it's nice for load times, but even file transfers and extracting files are something I do quite a bit. Currently, I'm building a machine for a family member, and it would be a waste not to put an nvme drive in it. I guess if you didn't care and didn't know anything about computers, you wouldn't buy one, but those are the same people who wonder why their Dell is slow when they open a chrome tab.
@@Trippsy05 depends how much data the user is likely to move. If it's someone with a large bank of locally stored media, I totally agree. If it's someone without a big library, or if their library is hosted on a cloud platform, it probably isn't worth it.
When I updated my CPU and motherboard last year, I updated both of my old drives DVME M.2 drives. Very pleased with the speed compared to old SATA HDDs. I also replaced the HDD on my laptop and replaced with an NVME drive. It's screaming now!
For archival or large file storage, a hard drive is always the more reliable, cost effective and long lasting option. At least hard drives can be infinitely written to until mechanical failure unlike SSDs
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in india we get m.2 2tb for only 8,500₹ approx (105$) and if u ask the read and write speed its low like approx 2.5gb/s of write and 1.0gb/s read .........soo "transfer files responsibly"....
Alos few points to remember 1. nVME SSDs are expensive compared to Hard drives. 2. Hard drives are way more reliable than any SSDs. 3. nVME SSDs come with different versions and speed, choosing one for your PC requires some research.
I remember being so impressed with the first 1T drive. When I was growing up hard drives were tiny. The really tiny 512mb microsd is even more impressive.
Hard Drives are 2.5 or 3 inch format disks that stores data by magnetizing the disk, some usually have a rotation speed between 1200-15000 rpm, and can vary in writing speed. NVMe SSD come in 4 form factors the second that he showed was a 2.5 NVMe sometimes used in a mounting bracket at the back of the PC or elsewhere. The M.2 form factor is the last one he showed used in modern gaming computers which is directly used on the motherboard. Both of the NVMes he showed usually end up having higher write/read speeds than your average HDD and the M.2 can benefit from a heatsink but it's not required to use one.
well obviously in electronic if something is smaller its highly likely its also faster. idk how that size to speed comparison relevant, but that size to storage capacity tho. now thats actually crazy
Overall pretty good video. I'd just like to add, that nvme ssds are faster than sata ssds because they transfer data through the pci lanes of your motherboard which are rated for a way higher speed than the sata lanes. Often those pci lanes will be connected to your cpu directly but even if they are connected to your chipset it propably wont affect the speed of the drive and if at all will only impact the latency.
I know many have pointed this out already but to clarify once more: Both the SSD and the "NVME Drive" are SSDs. The sata SSD is a 2.5" form factor ssd that uses a sata interface. The "NVMe Drive" is a m.2 2280 form factor ssd that uses the m.2 interface to connect and uses NVMe as the storage protocol. There are different interfaces/form factors that also use NVMe drives (there are for example 2.5" form factor NVMe drives). There are also m.2 drives that use the SATA protocol for data transfer instead of NVMe. The interface/protocol of the dove is a big factor in the speed but a cheap NVMe ssd (e.g. without a dram cache) might not perform much better than a well built SATA SSD.
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NVMe drives are also SSDs, they just use a different protocol for data transfer than SATA SSDs.
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He said that it’s an SSD at 0:27
It's also much closer to the cpu
That's the 970 evo plus, which tops out at around 3500.
i think some even use sata
Me, a broke gamer:
"This is $55 2TB"
"This is $110 2TB"
"This is $160 2TB"
I wish i can buy 2tb nvme for 160$
In Algeria they are over 300$
@@Rayu25Demon wtf. I can ship u one for cheaper😂
@@ajkareem5685 do it mr beast.
@@Rayu25Demon its 140 for a 2tb WD blue nvme. Pcie 3x4.
@@master_baiter1873
prices are ridiculously expensive in Algeria, 2 or 3 times more of the original price
A couple things should be noted:
First: The reason why M.2 NVME SSDs are so fast isn’t because it plugs directly into the motherboard, it is because it runs off of a different interface to HDD and SATA SSDs called PCI-Express. It works by connecting the SSD directly to the processor instead of going through SATA controllers, it also has more wires for transferring data than SATA does. This mode of transferring data is what your graphics card uses.
If your motherboard doesn’t have an M.2 drive connector you can get a PCI-Express card, this plugs into a PCI-Express slot on your motherboard, and the M.2 NVME Drive connects to that card. With this you will see very little speed loss if any at all.
Second, not all M.2 NVME SSDs require a heat sink, some of them simply do not run fast enough to need one. The only ones in need of a heat sink are some of the fastest ones. Though I would still recommend getting a heat sink, they just aren’t necessary.
PCI Express isnt the protocol, its the interface. NVMe is the protocol. There are also SSDs using the M.2 form factor, but are SATA SSDs. So there are M.2 SATA and M.2 NVMe SSDs.
@@Nobbi_Habogs true
Technically SATA actually uses PCIe as its interface with the CPU, just goes through a controller to interface with the drive.
SATA uses less lanes then NVME, which is why motherboards often have to disable SATA ports 0 and 1 if NVME is being used.
This is also why Sata controllers can be found on little PCIe expansion cards, and as @rapst0r mentioned that m.2 drives can use SATA.
If your motherboard doesn’t have an M.2 drive connector you can get a PCI-Express card, this plugs into a PCI-Express slot on your motherboard, and the M.2 NVME Drive connects to that card. With this you will see very little speed loss if any at all.Sure.. but you'd need a USB flash storage to boot the NVMe if it is plugged in to the PCI-Express card; since they will not boot automatically.
One heat sink is present on the motherboard for ssd already. There is also another slot for nvme m.2 ssds nowadays but there isn't a heatsink pre provided in the motherboard. You'd have to get one. I watched someone installing an ssd in thst slot but the slot was near to the gpu slot. And when putting a big gpu, the there wasn't much of a space to put a heatsink unless there are some thin ones available in the market which I am not aware of. Are there any available? And btw if chose to not go with a heatsink on the second drive then should install the windows in the one with the hestsink or in the one without the heatsink?
"transfer files responsibly 😅"
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List of things wrong with this video.
-"NVMe Drive" is not a thing, they're Solid State Drives that use the Non-Volitile Memory Express transfer protocol, best term would be NVMe SSD.
-The drive you called an SSD is a SATA SSD, it uses the same interface and transfer protocol as the mechanical hard drive
-SATA never hits 600mb/s because of protocol overhead and no SATA SSD advertises a 600MB/s transfer speed, same reason why USB 3.0 Gen 2 doesn't hit 1200MB/s (it's theoretical maximum)
-Internal SATA drives usually have better performance than external drives because they have far less access latency. No matter how high that transfer speed number is, USB drives will always have more access latency.
-NVMe SSDs also have multiple different standards and only a few can actually hit 7GB/s. Most also don't require a heatsink unless you're CONSTANTLY writing data to them.
-NVMe SSDs are not faster because they attach directly to your motherboard. U.2 connections allow the use of 2.5" NVMe SSDs with a cable or backplane, this is what NVMe storage servers use.
Thanks for your response. The intent of the video was to appeal to the average person who doesn't even know what an NVME SSD is. It's simply not possible to get this nuanced in a 30 second video.
Hopefully people that need to know more will do their research, or reference a comment like yours!
For a 30s video you have to keep things overly simple or else no one will even bother to watch it.
Thanks for the info, but you should really use the correct abbreviation. GB (Gigabyte) vs Gb (Gigabit) and MB (Megabyte) vs Mb (Megabit).
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@@drummerdude100 Good point. Bits are not equal to bytes!
to add: most NVME SSDs don't even need a heatsink, plus there also exists SATA M.2 drives
My NVME is 200x faster than my old HDD 💀
Goodbye money
@@tredfxmanBro it's 200€ at peak price.
And for the world fastest. There's fast nvme for cheap price
20-30GB/s compared to the 6GB/s limit of SATA SSD, they are pretty crazy but you don't really need something like that unless you are constantly moving large files.
In random read and write only
"Even tho this is 10 times smaller, It's actually 10 times more expensive"
its actually not that more expensive than regular ssd's
Samsung sata ssd is $170, Samsung nvme ssd is $200. They're more expensive but not that much. Granted the nvme I compared didn't have a heatsink, it's gonna be ~$30 more.
1tb nvme selling for like £60 .. that is cheap lmfao
Ssd and nvme 10x shorter lifespan and burnout faster failure less reliable less able to fix than mechanical drives...also thumb drives and memory cards.
@@cjonwickham1933 Yep, which practically doesn't mean much unless your drive is almost filled and you're writing continuous video or something. It's well worth the time you'll save not waiting for an HDD to respond.
What you talking bout? Only high end Nvmes need a heat sink
@@choppings54 yes and no, NVMes which hit speeds over more than 4000+mbps will require a heatsink on the controller, not the NAND.
My board came with a heat sink anyways but my drive 100% does not need it
Yea, heatsinks on everything now are just for the looks, drives mostly take few seconds of load and than a long period of idle, thats why the things reviewers say about drive speeds are not important, because you will only stress an ssd for a few seconds if you are transfering a file under a gigabyte, and in you are reading game files while joining a match in a game, you are only reading a small ammount of the game overall size.
For gaming an nvme drive is a nice to have for a boot drive so your system can just boot faster, but for mass storage drives? An ssd is sometimes even overkill for a game storage drive, and you can get more gigs per $ in you use a hdd with optane (it has some drawbacks too, you will need to spare an m.2 slot for it, it only speeds up loading of commonly used files so if you play a diffrent game every day it will do nothing, and you can only use it on an intel system)
@@inqizzo yh i knew a lot of this already. My nvme drive was way overkill for my intended use but as u said nice to have. It was almost the same price as ssd so I kinda just thought why not at the time. My Internet is rlly bad so everything kinda just throttles anyways especially for online games or downloads.
@@tgibbs9510 well, are you on wifi?
"NVME drives can get hot"
Me transfering 20 gigs of AC mods:📸🤨💀
You don't "need" a heatsink for NVMe SSDs to keep it cool.
Not on most nvme drives, but the fastest of them de benefit from one...
@@J1nx_exe If the 990 Pro doesn't need a heatsink, unless it is intentionally built as a heater, it probably would not need a heatsink.
By the way, the NVMe SSD shown is a 970 EVO Plus so it definitely doesn't need a heatsink.
@@relims I'm not saying it needs one. All I said is high end models could benefit from having one. Meaning there could be a performance increase if you do use one. Do they need one? No. Could they run even better while having one? Yes. Is it overkill? Quite possibly
@@J1nx_exe sorry. I didn't make it clear. I meant they don't benefit from one. Unless you are burning through your SSD in a week, there is no point of a heatsink.
@@J1nx_exe wait. where did the 100 words essay go?
I wrote a ~80 words comment saying you are technically correct but taking the 990 Pro as an example, it would burns through the drive's endurance in
Thanks man! I have been using floppy disk all the time - I will switch to SSD now.
But the life span is very small compare to ssd and hdd average around 2yrs.
@@Czyb20 using it for 5 years now 🙄
Seriously what a dumb video, these products have been around for 10 years LOL
Thanks man, I've been punching holes in sheets of paper for too long. Now I can sit back and relax 😂
@@BrucePanagopoulos that is the most nerd joke I've ever heard, and I love it
This man wasn’t aware that hard drives also needed some cooling
Unless you're using a really high end drive you don't need one. Same goes for ram. Most come with a heat spreader but it's actually not necessary.
The improvements are marginal and most of them are aesthetical at best
@@maxmustsleep Well the HDD and SSD have cases around them and they get hot somehow.
Only for 17000 rpm hdd
Only really a requirement on drives that use 10w or more total power when in use, so that would be high end 7200rpn HDD’s, 10k and 15k rpm HDD’s. Otherwise it should be fine without any direct cooling (provided there’s enough empty space around it)
You don't need a heatsync for your ssd, it will improve the speed by less than 1% sometimes, which falls within the random error margin. Just put it on the motherboard with nothing over it
It's not meant to speed it up it's meant to cool it down are you brain dead?
@@vertelrot4381Dont worry man
Depends on the drive. Gen 3 drives dont need a hest sink. Gen 4 drives do. Gen 5 drives need active cooling or else the controller either thermal throttles itself and slows down or it overheats and crashes your os.
Info like this save time and money.
@@chease9132my gen4 nvme doesn't have a heatsink and runs fine. Not warmer then 40° and that's completely fine I'd say
I told her the same " smaller is better and faster" but she left me
Bro 😂😭
Damn
💀
It broke me a laugher🤣🤣🤣
I hope you get better one.
He only showed that NVMe drives could reach 7000 MB/s, but NVMe drives with PCIe gen 5 can reach speeds of 14000 MB/s. However, right now, it’s more common in most builds for NVMe drives to still be PCIe gen 4, meaning only speeds up to 7000 MB/s.
Edit: Just realized that this video was uploaded before PCIe gen 5 was released, but it’s still good to know lol.
"Only 7Go/s" 💀
(I've got a nice 2Tb 990 Pro)
I recently installed a 2TV NVME SSD and it's amazing! Got it during a holiday sale.
I installed 2 2tb SSDs 😎😂
@@Alex-tu5vu I love my 2, 2 TB hdds
@@keen283 i love my 2 4tb hdds and 1tb nvme
I love my 2TB floppy disk 😼
Got 2x8TB HDD and 2x4TB of M.2 on my Computer and 4x10TB Hard drive Storage on NAS. (And a 256GB Standard SSD in my PC too, but that some rookie numbers at this point) The point that these drive doesnt have as much capacity as advertised is a huge pain in the ass now and I have more that 6TB less than i should have :(
The sound effects are so satisfying!!
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Bro be living in 2000-2010 💀. Actually SSD and Nvme are safer than HDD.
@@FireCestina1200 he means temperature
@@FireCestina1200that is if you just use it normally, hard drives suffer from simply being a mechanical component so at some point they will fail. Ssds on the other hand may last you decades (assuming your not moving tons of files), when it comes to shelf life hard drives always win at that compared to ssds.
“Transfer files responsibly”
*starts transferring terabytes of hotdog pictures as fast as possible*
You just need the app that can distinguish hot dogs from everything that isn't a hot dog.
You gave u 69 like 😂
Transfer finished
Damn! I forgot the cat videos!
"do i look like i know what a JPEG is? I just want a picture of a god damn hotdog!"
@@capitalbeat1749 you beat me to it
the ssd is so fast,i got not enough time to spam my key to bios
I knowww i feel you 😂😂
Bios are loaded on the motherboard not the harddrive so the ssd doesnt affect bios loading time just windows loading time
@@hugonilsson6067 yes and no. Bios lives in the mb correct but on startup the bios goes through a checklist making sure everything works which only takes like 5 seconds then immediately try’s to find the boot drive (ssd or hard drive) so if you have a super fast ssd it will communicate faster therefore short boot up time. There’s a lot more that plays into this like a up to date bios and stuff but I’m not getting into all that. I’m basically saying both of you are correct.
@@mcflurry3098 While true, that response time is less than a few milliseconds.
@@TheLionAndTheLamb777 yes
Even not 😅 one second 😢
NVMEs have also speed limits, If You put an NVMe SSD with a PCIe 4.0 connector to an NVMe PCIe 3.0 slot it will max out to speeds accepted by the NVMe PCIe 3.0 slot.
“So how did you burn your house down?”
“My mom came into my room i needed to move all my ‘homework’ to another location”
Ssd more like toasty stick
I hate it when I'm enjoying a quiet Saturday night with my pantaloons undressed, beside my container of paper tissues while doing my 'Homework' and my Mother barges into my chamber uninvited.
@@frederickoftheartic2209 fucking sad life 🥲
Once a kid has "come of age" a parent should always knock
Your parent will not barged into your room....if you have your own house.
The controller on an NVMe SSD like to be cool, and a heatsink designed to cool just that is a good thing, you can find them anywhere online. But the flash on an SSD prefers running hot, it'll run faster and longer at higher temps. So be careful in saying you need a heatsink, usually you don't
Mine just dies after 7 months, without the heatsink
Depends on where that ssd is installed. In a normal tower pc the airflow will probably be enough cooling. In a ps5 or a Notebook it could get warmer and a heat sink may make sense.
Yep
@@dennismwangangihow did you know that your SSD dies?
@@classicdufferin8739 Was using my NVMe I installed , then One day, it no longer works, checked using my reader, it doesn't work, but a new one works on pc and reader
After countless videos this is the one that worked for me. The edited description for the 0% bug was brill and helped so much. Cheers bro you earned a sub
Nvme's are so fast that one time I actually had to slow it down so that my other cpu parts could keep up.
That doesn't make sense. How did you "slow it down" and what "CPU parts" couldn't keep up with what it was doing
@@rdb1 he's obviously joking
@@joen4287 Oh well then in that case I r/wooshed myself
@@rdb1 you can't r/whooosh yourself sir, let me r/whooosh you to make you feel better
@@joen4287 it wasn't obvious (too me and him ig)
The grab by the pins 💀
It literally doesn't matter
@@343JustMe touching the pins on ram has caused my system to not post at many times.
@@mar_3620To be fair, they’re easy to clean. That’s all you have to do.
Actually the 2nd is an SSD with a SATA connector (interface) and the 3rd is also an SSD but with an M.2 NVME connector (interface), which uses PCI-E connection, sometimes directly to the CPU's PCI-E lane, sometimes connected to the MBO's chipste's PCI-E lanes.
PCI-E = super highway vs SATA 6 = residential road vs HDD SATA 3 = sidewalk.
@@krane15 no matter how fast the nvme drive is . theres usually only 1 slot and lane for it.. where would you transfer your files to hit that speed?
@@krane15there is only sata 1 2 3
Dear @@krane15 ,
Sorry but what? :-O SATA 6? :-O Oh, errrrr... Are you sure? :-O
Technically NVME is the protocol, not the interface. The interface is PCI-E. Same for SATA drives, the interface is SATA, but the protocol is AHCI
My hard drive on fire
It's really just a burning memory
Yea and you just burned thru my memory
I got that
Well played.
The caretaker?
10x costlier too
unfortunately!
Not true though
@@Johan_K how?
@@Johan_K ☕
@@emyyrr1146 Have you bought one lately? Maybe different at the high-end of the spectrum, but most of them in the 250-1000GB range cost about the same or just slightly more than a SATA SSD, I've even found a few on sale for a little cheaper.
I’m actually glad he said transfer files responsibly, it’s not something he needed to do, but it just shows a bit of care at least
The smaller the object, the more you pay 😅
That's our new future I guess
Also the faster the object more u pay😂
So your saying i've could have been making bank all these times???
You hear that little buddy
The kid with the 1mm defeater: *My time time has come..*
I wish the same for gpu😂
I will just stick to my 8 gb usb that I found on the bottom of a drawer 💪
hahahaha we have shitty 16 gb from school, im happy it even works
Have one of these, though mine is 1tb instead of 2. One of the best purchases I ever did, the practicality of this thing is unmatched.
me :cries in hdd
don't cry... HHD is more reliable. i had 4 SSD's fail on me within 4 years meanwhile my HHD running non-stop since 2014 still runs. I don't know who is testing these drives write totals. I think they hired the same guy that did volkswagon emissions testing.
Hdd is relatively slower compared to ssd yeah it fails later on but we are talking about performance here most especially in gaming.@@Sunrise-d819i2
Don't need the heat sink. Many times it reduces performance because the chips need to be at temp to perform their best
but the problem is that not all brands has a good durability to handle high temp for a long time
@@i_zoru ssds improve performance at higher temperatures.......
@@ARCbirdman yes as long as the temprature is still within the limits of the ssd itself
@@i_zoru which is extremely difficult unless you are reading and writing large files for extended periods of time with absolutely no air movement over your ssd. many motherboards now alr have shields on the face that will act as just a larger heat sink so that the ssd can dump heat if it ever is somehow needed. heatsinks are only needed on really high end ssds that people plan on doing those extended read and write sessions with. Don't fall for the marketing!!
30 year IT Tech here... been witnessing many SSD failures. Many are still booting the os but are very slow with many corrupt files and some even locked read only. I recommend running os on SSD and storing data on platter drive. SMJ 23
Omg congratz man, must be cool to just now find out about nvme hard drives
Then whenever you play a multiplayer game, instead of waiting for your loading to finish, you'll now wait for your team mates loading out of a hdd 😁
Coming into the server server with a ping of 1
Correction: you do NOT need a heatsink for most nvme drives but its always a good idea to keep your shit cool
Finally me and my friends can transfer home work files faster.
Study material 😂😂
Tf, I just upgraded to an SSD, now you are telling me there is another format...
NVMEs have been around for quite a while. Like a good 5,6 years while. Gen 5s are coming out in the upcoming months and atm you can get gen 4 or gen 3, obviously the higher you go the faster they go, in gaming or booting up your system you won't really notice any difference tho, it's in the file transfers, content creation or work related tasks are where faster NVMEs shine. Basically if you're Joe Schmo you don't need a gen 4 or 5 and can do just fine with a trusted gen 3 drive, for example Intel 660,670, Samsung 970 Evo (they are more of the higher end gen 3s but because they're 3 years old they get cheaper with time and on bargain sales)
@@someoneuknow1753 yeah I heard of it, but never looked into it. I'm just not in the loop anymore. But the vid helped me catch up!
@@iamknoware I mean, my essay basically summarized everything up 🗿
@@someoneuknow1753 thank you for that :)
dont worry
bro just got his first costium pc and now he is the new tech tips guy
"SSD's are fast, but not that fast.."
Me who's using 10 yrs old HDD: 😵💫
And overpriced so dont buy it!!! All scam they make it for 5$ and sell it for 500$ to you🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"this drive is 10 times faster" yeah and also 10 times more expensive
yes
congratulations
you have discovered the principle that better specs require higher costs
Objectively false. They are literally the same price
they're exaggerating. Sassy and NVMe drives are close but they're still absurdly expensive compared to Hard drives
I tried looking up a 4TB m.2 and its like $350 when the HDD would be like $100 💀
@@doublinx2 the difference is so incredibly big in spec, nothing weird about the price
@@doublinx2 damn where tf u getting ur sh I got a 5 tb hdd for 50$
If your pc is booting slowly, an ssd is the perfect upgrade as it helps with the booting of the device al well.
"transfer files responsibly" - something my cyber security tutor would say to me.
*aggresively transfers files when someone enters the room*
Never heard TRANSFER FILES RESPONSIBLY from anyone 😂
me about to transfer my 1.3 tbs of study material
"transfer files responsibly"
"Study material" Ehhh? 😏😏
Keep in mind that for the fastest NVME from SamSung, go for the 980Pro 2TB, not the 970 shown in the video 👀
And overpriced so dont buy it!!! All scam they make it for 5$ and sell it for 500$ to you🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Soon there will be drives that are even faster too!
SamSung
brother will shock when he sees the speed of microprocessor registers.
ahhh yes hold it at the contacts
Don't worry. I wiped it down with isopropyl after.
Great work by Video Editors. The sound effects and scenes are added perfectly.
This guys such a good teacher, explained it well, slowly but not too slowly.
Thanks man, if you see this you fixed my pc from an endless no boot loop 🙏
Windows - hold my 10 kb temporary shitty files
Ssd - 🥵
@@leeroyjenkins0 tell that to potato pc gamers lol 😆
Open ssd up. You will find a nvme in it. It uses an adapter to plug into the SATA port.
Maybe the newer ones, but trust me the old boards in SSD's were the size of the case.
I’d really like it if people who are trying to educate people about PCs use terms correctly.
2TB hard drive - correct
2TB SSD - correct
2TB NVMe - not correct
The third one is also an SSD, just like the second one. The difference is that it uses the M.2 form factor. An M.2 form factor SSD may use the NVMe protocol or it could use the SATA protocol. But either way, it’s still an SSD.
For someone with a tech channel, this should be as basic as boiling water.
As a power user, there is a reason why NVMe drives cost so much more. If you need one, you know you need one and you'll pay for it. If you don't need one, you'll see the price tag, and you won't buy it. Very simple.
The thing is, I can't think of anyone who really uses a PC who couldn't utilize one. I do a bit of gaming, so it's nice for load times, but even file transfers and extracting files are something I do quite a bit. Currently, I'm building a machine for a family member, and it would be a waste not to put an nvme drive in it. I guess if you didn't care and didn't know anything about computers, you wouldn't buy one, but those are the same people who wonder why their Dell is slow when they open a chrome tab.
@@Trippsy05 depends how much data the user is likely to move. If it's someone with a large bank of locally stored media, I totally agree. If it's someone without a big library, or if their library is hosted on a cloud platform, it probably isn't worth it.
“And this is a 2tb mirco sd card”
Just waiting for him to say this
but micro sd worse than hdd
Never in my life did I think I would hear “transfer files responsibly” 😂
bro if you make a small search you'll see that something affects ssd life span is the amount of data written to it
Master oogway : smaller they are , faster they become..
Faster way to download my "homework"
I won't tell
Waaaaw, thanks man, I'm gonna need that one for playing RimWorld, and something else as well
since I've been using RimWorld with at least 20+ mods
I thought he was about to say : so fast you need to screw it to the motherboard 😅
Imagine your SSD overheats and you lose everything because it breaks from the heat 💀
Basically impossible for that to happen
Thanks for making this video🙏🏻
When I updated my CPU and motherboard last year, I updated both of my old drives DVME M.2 drives. Very pleased with the speed compared to old SATA HDDs. I also replaced the HDD on my laptop and replaced with an NVME drive. It's screaming now!
Like she said, smaller and faster 😔
oh hello paimon
For archival or large file storage, a hard drive is always the more reliable, cost effective and long lasting option. At least hard drives can be infinitely written to until mechanical failure unlike SSDs
The info I needed, thank you 💪🏿
You are my inspiration to make TH-cam Shorts. Ahh your video capture and quality are amazing🎉🎉 mind to share what camera you used to take this Shorts video?
in india we get m.2 2tb for only 8,500₹ approx (105$) and if u ask the read and write speed its low like approx 2.5gb/s of write and 1.0gb/s read
.........soo "transfer files responsibly"....
Thanks bro ive been using physical bits all these time thanks
"the smaller , the faster "
- 👴
d****
Theoretical limit for any format is 7gbs per second, so if hard disks get upgrades, they can move as fast as ssd and nvme, pcie slot never changes
OMG what a new rare uncommon information
Thanks for this vid
It made me go and search about lots of things related to drives
Alos few points to remember
1. nVME SSDs are expensive compared to Hard drives.
2. Hard drives are way more reliable than any SSDs.
3. nVME SSDs come with different versions and speed, choosing one for your PC requires some research.
I remember being so impressed with the first 1T drive. When I was growing up hard drives were tiny. The really tiny 512mb microsd is even more impressive.
Transfer files responsibly got me
It sounds like the responsible choice doesn't need special cooling.
Im old enough to remember when they came out with a one gigabit hard drive and it cast thousand bucks
Imagine transferring a 22GB movie in under 5 seconds.
not sure how it actually works, but you'll never see speeds like that in realtime
@@y66502 you need to check write speed not just person saying a speed there is a write and read speed
@@abdelrahmangamingpopo9289 i assumed the number on the box is the write speed
Man’s be yappin you don’t need a heat sink
"2 TB memory card on AliExpress" be laughin*
Depends of what are using them for
Nvme sounds like it's saying hhd and ssd to "envy me" 💀
Sata SSD drives are only that size to fit standard size bays. Open one and there's empty space in the case.
Makes sense 🤔. Like an amplifier, lower resistance equals more performance, but it also creates more heat.
"SSDs aren't even that expensive anymore"
**me literally looking at the prices being double an HDD**
Didn't know tony stark was into gaming PCS
If the manufacturer didn’t put a heat sink on your SSD, you most likely don’t need one
I always drink a ton of alcohol before I transfer files responsibly
Hard Drives are 2.5 or 3 inch format disks that stores data by magnetizing the disk, some usually have a rotation speed between 1200-15000 rpm, and can vary in writing speed. NVMe SSD come in 4 form factors the second that he showed was a 2.5 NVMe sometimes used in a mounting bracket at the back of the PC or elsewhere. The M.2 form factor is the last one he showed used in modern gaming computers which is directly used on the motherboard. Both of the NVMes he showed usually end up having higher write/read speeds than your average HDD and the M.2 can benefit from a heatsink but it's not required to use one.
Its not necessary to get a heatsink for a Gen 3 NVME ssd but for gen 4 NVME it is recommend to get one if you plan on doing a lot of transfers on it.
well obviously in electronic if something is smaller its highly likely its also faster. idk how that size to speed comparison relevant, but that size to storage capacity tho. now thats actually crazy
Oh man, missed the opotunity of say "and THIS, is a 2tb sd card"
Overall pretty good video. I'd just like to add, that nvme ssds are faster than sata ssds because they transfer data through the pci lanes of your motherboard which are rated for a way higher speed than the sata lanes. Often those pci lanes will be connected to your cpu directly but even if they are connected to your chipset it propably wont affect the speed of the drive and if at all will only impact the latency.
I know many have pointed this out already but to clarify once more:
Both the SSD and the "NVME Drive" are SSDs.
The sata SSD is a 2.5" form factor ssd that uses a sata interface.
The "NVMe Drive" is a m.2 2280 form factor ssd that uses the m.2 interface to connect and uses NVMe as the storage protocol.
There are different interfaces/form factors that also use NVMe drives (there are for example 2.5" form factor NVMe drives). There are also m.2 drives that use the SATA protocol for data transfer instead of NVMe.
The interface/protocol of the dove is a big factor in the speed but a cheap NVMe ssd (e.g. without a dram cache) might not perform much better than a well built SATA SSD.
Nvme= non volatile memory express. But keep in mind, nvme m2 and u2 or u3 use to increase their temperature during use.