Unfortunately the anime cut out a part of the interaction that changes the meaning of the scene: After Genji brings down his sword and before the dust clears, in the manga he says "Next time it won't be a friendly warning...." before realizing Sagiri already took his sword. In the anime it just looks like Genji was trying to kill Sagiri.
@@Joseph-zg9il he might not be talented than saigiri but he still tried to protect her. The attack was on him but he pushed her away create distance between her and giant guy so she can flee. Also this is a medieval time, the fact that she was allowed to hold a sword and do a job in first place tells japan is way less misogynistic than Europe where you burned women for doing things other than household chores and maternal duties.
I know Genji is triggering a lot of people but we also gotta have to understand or atleast acknowledge the fact that this was simply the norm back then. They've been used to this way of living to the point where anything that doesn't align with these set of standards such as a woman being a samurai or executioner etc. are frowned upon. To us right now, these things clearly scream sexist/misogynistic but to people back then it was just how their way of life works; women are this and men are that etc. This is why Eizen and Genji are the way that they are. And this ideology is even more engraved into them especially since they're people of status so they would definitely feel strongly about adhering to societal standards. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all this to say that we should just give them a pass for their behavior, cuz there's definitely some personal agenda mixed in with the way they're treating Sagiri. I'm just saying we should also have to acknowledge this fact about society back then, and not just on the surface level.
20:10 “instant karma”. if you think someone should die Bc they don’t want a woman or children on this death island, then that’s messed up. Obviously he’s wrong about her being weak. But he had no ill-intent behind his words. Also he doesn’t care about purple clothes girl Bc she’s a prisoner and deserves to be there. Saigiri is his friend so naturally he’d wanna protect his friend. Him drawing his sword was a scare tactic btw, he was trying to kill her
Thanks dude, i was searching for a comment like this. God bless you for not being a typical simp who accept whatever they do. Sam's is funny and pretty and all but she showed how terrible she can be towards people eho dont get on the same boat as her.
Actually I don't think he was gonna kill her i think it was possible scare tactic where he would swing his blade quickly and halt it, like you know anime does sometimes. He did push her out of the way which honestly quickly happens that many people notice it.
The Kikatsugan, or starve pill, was designed to help the ninjas when in starvation, being made from glutinous rice, sake, dried chickweed, ginseng, buckwheat, adlay and yams. Sanka, (Japanese: “Mountain Cave”) outcaste group of people in Japan. The Sanka are sometimes called the Japanese Gypsies, wandering in small bands through the mountainous regions of Honshu. They are not distinguishable in either physical type or language from the rest of the Japanese.
I kind of think that the remark about Sagiri being a woman was meant to be more of an excuse for herself to bow out and leave the island. She volunteered to be a part of this, but she had a moment of weakness by fainting and having to be cared and watched over. Unless she was a young man with no children, she/he wouldn’t be afforded a way out without his manhood being ridiculed and criticized, even in modern times, even if it’s the actual smart decision to leave and get away from all of this as possible. I’m not saying that throwing her womanhood in her face was the best way to go about getting Sagiri to reconsider, but, once it seemed she was sure she wanted to continue being a part of this, it was a toss up to either bully her off the island or test her skills and, if necessary, ensure that she isn’t a weak link for their group.
Not Morgan making sure to write Nurugai down with the phonetics and Dani giving her a confused stare making her self conscious 😂😭. I was also really confused when Genji drew his sword on Sagiri, but I'm going to assume like Dani said he probably was trying to scare her or prove she wasn't skilled/aware enough to react. Especially considering how she just let him take the sword back. Anyways classic horror movie stuff, getting into an argument and not noticing the monster behind you 🤦♀
We got about 1000 other old school fantasy animes where women are treated much better than they were in historical times, so idk why its suddenly an issue(in the west mind you...surprise) when we got something remotely accurate. I like it because its gonna be more rewarding when Sagiri shows those types of people up. Also love how people instantly forgot Genji saved her this episode, and even in episode 3 when Gabi got injured.
It's because you only realize he saved her on the next episode. The scene happened so fast and they weren't really emphasizing that part in this episode. And when they watch the next episode then they'll see, you gotta let viewers react with what they see at the moment. Even so, time period or not the fact that Genji didn't even try to understand Sagiri when she was explaining herself is the problem, she was even bowing to him and his response is like that tells how he really has little respect towards women. Like he only realized what she meant when he's already dying and she's tending him "like a woman should". I think we have the right to criticize a character, that does not mean it's criticizing the whole story
So because it’s 2023 a woman can’t be shown in any form of media fighting through misogyny? Weird take, this is quite clearly part of her struggle that she has to overcome, understand being upset at the character but to be critical of the story for having misogynistics characters is pretty narrow way of view things. It’s ironic Jjk was mentioned because it pretty much drives the point home that misogyny is still a thing regardless of era but obviously during this time period it was worse.
Thank god Sam recognises that Genji does have some valid points. Most reactors I've seen have just entirely dismissed everything he said because of the backwards, sexist part, when really all of the points that WEREN'T "you are a woman, therefore you aren't qualified and shouldn't be here" were pretty valid concerns.
The great thing about Sagiri as a character is that Kaku incorporates the real attitudes and assumed roles of women from fuedal Japan, but uses it to build Sagiris character development in that she doesn´t accept being relegated to inferior roeles because of her gender. The social commentary here is not the inferiority of women but that the men around Sagiri who looks down on her as weak are wrong and doesn´t undesrtand what strength actually is. Gabimaru even points out to her that in some ways she is stronger than him, even if he is the stronger fighter of the two. It´ll come up again, so just trust that the author is doing several character studies at once, and Sagiri is the best one imo.
I personally don't get why women get upset when the truth is told, as a woman you are at a disadvantage when it comes to physical fight, pointing that out isn't insulting you guys
Let's not forget it's just an anime and Japan frowns upon identity politics so also on feminism. There's a reason why Japanese games, manga and anime are flourishing compared to the western media of the world. People are tired of identity politics getting shoved in their faces through the years. And there are plenty of badass women in anime that I truly love that handles swordmanship better than men in their respective anime. Like Saeko from highschool of the dead, Mikasa from attack on titan... Nowadays men get ridiculed for just breathing, so...
I'm an extremely masculine black man, with unbridled testosterone, and a raging boner, who identifies as a petite asian woman. I too agree with the statement that women are weak.
I get it in the context of a fantasy anime that she should be perfectly capable. But why are people pretending like what he was saying isnt 100% facts if this was real life. Calm it down on the delusion people.
The funniest thing about old-fashioned misogyny is the sheer confusion displayed when a woman wants her independence. Like: “what do you mean you don’t want to only have children and cook for the rest of your life??? Isn’t this why you exist???”
Actually, the funniest thing about old-fashioned misogyny is not having the divorce stats, single parents and mental illness increasing. In the philosophical aspect everyone have his reasons and purpose to live, but in the biologically aspect literally every species since the dawn of time is drive by 2 purposes that are biological, survive and pass these genes on to sustain the species. So yes having children and having something to eat is a main component of why we exist. Species that have not passed their genes (reproduce) and/or had nothing to eat have literally became extinct species.
People who say this shit always seem to forget what time period these stories r set in. Women needed to live to have children to keep the population going since in those times, countries were closed societies. If women suddenly went to war, they'd be no one left to have children and the societies would collapse.
I don't think the senta are natives. Everyone is from Japan, it's just that they live in the mountains and don't follow the Shogan, so they were eliminated due to that fact
Damn, as someone who read the entire manga. There is so much I want to reveal to you. BUT I CAN'T 😩😩😫😫 However, I will say by the end. Some of your beefs will be answered and addressed.
Misogyny is a tremendously misused word. Misogyny is an aversion towards women. A similar level of hatred like the ones nazis had toward jews. Genji is indeed a very rude guy with anachronistic mindset, to not seeing women as his equal, but he does not hate women. He is definitely a sexist but not a misogynist.
They're a bit blinded by "he looks down on women" idea...they were just onto it this episode like damn. Bro was just trying to send her back to remove any weak link in the group and ensure her safety. This lot just keep proving how dumb and typical they are. They are funny..i give them that...but their opinions made my ears bleed.
Ok in the manga he was sexist but to the degree they show in the anime I honestly didn't like him in the manga either but his logic was basically u woman not safe true but in the manga I love you like a little sister and I rather see getting married than welding a sword still sexist but not how the anime made it look it's literally going from overprotective older brothers too misogynistic dickheads i gotta defend it a little bit
tv show: has a sexist character and very clearly wants you to know their views are stupid weirdos online: "leave him alone! its actually normal for the time period!"
But that's the truth, that shit was normal back in the day. The point of it being in the anime is to show the female character overcome those comments. But they're so triggered by it that they can't see that he saw her as a little sister and wanted for her to be safe, or that he protected her. They didn't care about the motives of the character, they just thought "he said smth bad, so his death is karma, nothing more to it"
WHY DO THE THINGS I SEND YOU KEEP FALLING?! Are, Dani Gojo, and Tokido alright? I like that brick shit house and how he waved at that misogynistic Asaemon thus taking out half his torso
Let this be a lesson to all men. Even If you're being misogynistic with the best intentions, a huge cannibalistic giant with come smash you or rip you in two.
Also understandable, that yes there are lot of things that push that you are a woman message, But I don't really find it well a it eally a issue in this show its not a whole narrative the show pushes its only a one specific character arc for one charater in a certain upbringing so I don't really care that much but that's just me. I mean its clearly not trying to endorse the message either so I'm fine with it I'm usually fine to have characters put in a stance that is well not likeable as long as its handled well. I think this anime handles it well and i think anime in general handles stuff like that well if you watch a american movie or something it just turns in to a gender jerk fest where female empowerement just turns out to be shitting on the male. Here gabimaru and sagiri are on well the path to building each other up which is nice to see.
Unfortunately the anime cut out a part of the interaction that changes the meaning of the scene: After Genji brings down his sword and before the dust clears, in the manga he says "Next time it won't be a friendly warning...." before realizing Sagiri already took his sword. In the anime it just looks like Genji was trying to kill Sagiri.
Genji-dono has two sides 😂
-Talk shit to Sagiri for being a woman
-Protect Sagiri when Rokurota attacks
Oh shit I just noticed he protected her!
@@Joseph-zg9il it was very close, what are you talking about? The dude has massive arms as well
@@H_Malik_RL yea agreed
@@Joseph-zg9il he might not be talented than saigiri but he still tried to protect her. The attack was on him but he pushed her away create distance between her and giant guy so she can flee. Also this is a medieval time, the fact that she was allowed to hold a sword and do a job in first place tells japan is way less misogynistic than Europe where you burned women for doing things other than household chores and maternal duties.
He is a man
No Feminism bullshit back than
I know Genji is triggering a lot of people but we also gotta have to understand or atleast acknowledge the fact that this was simply the norm back then. They've been used to this way of living to the point where anything that doesn't align with these set of standards such as a woman being a samurai or executioner etc. are frowned upon. To us right now, these things clearly scream sexist/misogynistic but to people back then it was just how their way of life works; women are this and men are that etc. This is why Eizen and Genji are the way that they are. And this ideology is even more engraved into them especially since they're people of status so they would definitely feel strongly about adhering to societal standards.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all this to say that we should just give them a pass for their behavior, cuz there's definitely some personal agenda mixed in with the way they're treating Sagiri. I'm just saying we should also have to acknowledge this fact about society back then, and not just on the surface level.
20:10 “instant karma”. if you think someone should die Bc they don’t want a woman or children on this death island, then that’s messed up. Obviously he’s wrong about her being weak. But he had no ill-intent behind his words. Also he doesn’t care about purple clothes girl Bc she’s a prisoner and deserves to be there. Saigiri is his friend so naturally he’d wanna protect his friend. Him drawing his sword was a scare tactic btw, he was trying to kill her
Thanks dude, i was searching for a comment like this. God bless you for not being a typical simp who accept whatever they do.
Sam's is funny and pretty and all but she showed how terrible she can be towards people eho dont get on the same boat as her.
Actually I don't think he was gonna kill her i think it was possible scare tactic where he would swing his blade quickly and halt it, like you know anime does sometimes. He did push her out of the way which honestly quickly happens that many people notice it.
The Kikatsugan, or starve pill, was designed to help the ninjas when in starvation, being made from glutinous rice, sake, dried chickweed, ginseng, buckwheat, adlay and yams.
Sanka, (Japanese: “Mountain Cave”) outcaste group of people in Japan. The Sanka are sometimes called the Japanese Gypsies, wandering in small bands through the mountainous regions of Honshu. They are not distinguishable in either physical type or language from the rest of the Japanese.
I kind of think that the remark about Sagiri being a woman was meant to be more of an excuse for herself to bow out and leave the island. She volunteered to be a part of this, but she had a moment of weakness by fainting and having to be cared and watched over. Unless she was a young man with no children, she/he wouldn’t be afforded a way out without his manhood being ridiculed and criticized, even in modern times, even if it’s the actual smart decision to leave and get away from all of this as possible. I’m not saying that throwing her womanhood in her face was the best way to go about getting Sagiri to reconsider, but, once it seemed she was sure she wanted to continue being a part of this, it was a toss up to either bully her off the island or test her skills and, if necessary, ensure that she isn’t a weak link for their group.
Not Morgan making sure to write Nurugai down with the phonetics and Dani giving her a confused stare making her self conscious 😂😭. I was also really confused when Genji drew his sword on Sagiri, but I'm going to assume like Dani said he probably was trying to scare her or prove she wasn't skilled/aware enough to react. Especially considering how she just let him take the sword back. Anyways classic horror movie stuff, getting into an argument and not noticing the monster behind you 🤦♀
We got about 1000 other old school fantasy animes where women are treated much better than they were in historical times, so idk why its suddenly an issue(in the west mind you...surprise) when we got something remotely accurate. I like it because its gonna be more rewarding when Sagiri shows those types of people up.
Also love how people instantly forgot Genji saved her this episode, and even in episode 3 when Gabi got injured.
It's because you only realize he saved her on the next episode. The scene happened so fast and they weren't really emphasizing that part in this episode. And when they watch the next episode then they'll see, you gotta let viewers react with what they see at the moment. Even so, time period or not the fact that Genji didn't even try to understand Sagiri when she was explaining herself is the problem, she was even bowing to him and his response is like that tells how he really has little respect towards women. Like he only realized what she meant when he's already dying and she's tending him "like a woman should". I think we have the right to criticize a character, that does not mean it's criticizing the whole story
So because it’s 2023 a woman can’t be shown in any form of media fighting through misogyny? Weird take, this is quite clearly part of her struggle that she has to overcome, understand being upset at the character but to be critical of the story for having misogynistics characters is pretty narrow way of view things. It’s ironic Jjk was mentioned because it pretty much drives the point home that misogyny is still a thing regardless of era but obviously during this time period it was worse.
Genji svinging the sword was a scare tactic, it probably was explained a little clearer in the manga
Thank god Sam recognises that Genji does have some valid points.
Most reactors I've seen have just entirely dismissed everything he said because of the backwards, sexist part, when really all of the points that WEREN'T "you are a woman, therefore you aren't qualified and shouldn't be here" were pretty valid concerns.
20:17 Probably more like "I heard what you said. I like women. As the main course for lunch. You'll be the appetizer, lad."
The great thing about Sagiri as a character is that Kaku incorporates the real attitudes and assumed roles of women from fuedal Japan, but uses it to build Sagiris character development in that she doesn´t accept being relegated to inferior roeles because of her gender. The social commentary here is not the inferiority of women but that the men around Sagiri who looks down on her as weak are wrong and doesn´t undesrtand what strength actually is. Gabimaru even points out to her that in some ways she is stronger than him, even if he is the stronger fighter of the two. It´ll come up again, so just trust that the author is doing several character studies at once, and Sagiri is the best one imo.
Morgan doing that cave man voice just cracks me up.
"You wOMa n Yu HaV Baby"
I personally don't get why women get upset when the truth is told, as a woman you are at a disadvantage when it comes to physical fight, pointing that out isn't insulting you guys
Let's not forget it's just an anime and Japan frowns upon identity politics so also on feminism. There's a reason why Japanese games, manga and anime are flourishing compared to the western media of the world. People are tired of identity politics getting shoved in their faces through the years. And there are plenty of badass women in anime that I truly love that handles swordmanship better than men in their respective anime. Like Saeko from highschool of the dead, Mikasa from attack on titan... Nowadays men get ridiculed for just breathing, so...
bro shut uuuup lmao
All that misogyny cost him his kidney
he protected her if you look closely and how is he a misogynist
@@Jk-pr9ye I mean, he thinks women need to be popping out babies instead of doing what they want
Moral of the story dont be a misogynist
I'm an extremely masculine black man, with unbridled testosterone, and a raging boner, who identifies as a petite asian woman. I too agree with the statement that women are weak.
@@Jk-pr9ye can u read?
I've been absolutely loving the recent reactions 💚
Amazing content like always!
Rokurota a "Feminist icon". Imagine if that turns out to be true😆.
Respect to the giant dude, on his path to become a renowned women's rights activist.
nah. he didnt care. also genji was right. saigiri was just weak
I get it in the context of a fantasy anime that she should be perfectly capable. But why are people pretending like what he was saying isnt 100% facts if this was real life. Calm it down on the delusion people.
That start.... damn she bad ngl
The funniest thing about old-fashioned misogyny is the sheer confusion displayed when a woman wants her independence. Like: “what do you mean you don’t want to only have children and cook for the rest of your life??? Isn’t this why you exist???”
Actually, the funniest thing about old-fashioned misogyny is not having the divorce stats, single parents and mental illness increasing.
In the philosophical aspect everyone have his reasons and purpose to live, but in the biologically aspect literally every species since the dawn of time is drive by 2 purposes that are biological, survive and pass these genes on to sustain the species. So yes having children and having something to eat is a main component of why we exist. Species that have not passed their genes (reproduce) and/or had nothing to eat have literally became extinct species.
People who say this shit always seem to forget what time period these stories r set in. Women needed to live to have children to keep the population going since in those times, countries were closed societies. If women suddenly went to war, they'd be no one left to have children and the societies would collapse.
I don't think the senta are natives. Everyone is from Japan, it's just that they live in the mountains and don't follow the Shogan, so they were eliminated due to that fact
Damn, as someone who read the entire manga. There is so much I want to reveal to you. BUT I CAN'T 😩😩😫😫 However, I will say by the end. Some of your beefs will be answered and addressed.
let's just say its all for the power system
@@gino85455 Indeed
sameee
tenza is playing peekaboo in 10:36 🤧💕💕
on a youtube thing*
Misogyny is a tremendously misused word. Misogyny is an aversion towards women. A similar level of hatred like the ones nazis had toward jews.
Genji is indeed a very rude guy with anachronistic mindset, to not seeing women as his equal, but he does not hate women. He is definitely a sexist but not a misogynist.
Also, Yuzuriha is a criminal, she has a "job" to do on the island. Genji doesn't care about her, if she steps out of line he'll execute her
Japan did not allow women to enter the workforce. Women should not be ahead of men. Women were to enter the home.
I'm pretty sure we know what happened with red hair eizen lol
Kyoka Suigetsu! nah, rip
They called Genji dying instant karma but he is the one who saved her 😶lmao
They're a bit blinded by "he looks down on women" idea...they were just onto it this episode like damn.
Bro was just trying to send her back to remove any weak link in the group and ensure her safety. This lot just keep proving how dumb and typical they are. They are funny..i give them that...but their opinions made my ears bleed.
Why americans don't know what oranges are?
Free is a luxury
For the shit he said, he at least tried to protect her. Maybe if he was taught differently he would be a cool guy.
Genji would be the kind of Redditor that writes one really unnecessarily long paragraph then gets upset when someone responds "Who asked?"
Nice video.
Ok in the manga he was sexist but to the degree they show in the anime I honestly didn't like him in the manga either but his logic was basically u woman not safe true but in the manga I love you like a little sister and I rather see getting married than welding a sword still sexist but not how the anime made it look it's literally going from overprotective older brothers too misogynistic dickheads i gotta defend it a little bit
Samantha can’t stop being the baddest girl ever fr she’s so fine bro god damn ANYWAY love Morgan’s reactions
US Army must have lowered their standards for female recruits because they really really respect women, and women are so capable on the battlefield.
tv show: has a sexist character and very clearly wants you to know their views are stupid
weirdos online: "leave him alone! its actually normal for the time period!"
But that's the truth, that shit was normal back in the day. The point of it being in the anime is to show the female character overcome those comments.
But they're so triggered by it that they can't see that he saw her as a little sister and wanted for her to be safe, or that he protected her. They didn't care about the motives of the character, they just thought "he said smth bad, so his death is karma, nothing more to it"
I recommend reacting to the 1997 "berserk" anime if you haven't yet; it will always be my favorite one.
WHY DO THE THINGS I SEND YOU KEEP FALLING?! Are, Dani Gojo, and Tokido alright?
I like that brick shit house and how he waved at that misogynistic Asaemon thus taking out half his torso
Misogyny, the most realistic aspect of this anime
there was no misogyny. she was weak. period. also he saved her life. remember that.
Let this be a lesson to all men. Even If you're being misogynistic with the best intentions, a huge cannibalistic giant with come smash you or rip you in two.
Also understandable, that yes there are lot of things that push that you are a woman message, But I don't really find it well a it eally a issue in this show its not a whole narrative the show pushes its only a one specific character arc for one charater in a certain upbringing so I don't really care that much but that's just me. I mean its clearly not trying to endorse the message either so I'm fine with it I'm usually fine to have characters put in a stance that is well not likeable as long as its handled well.
I think this anime handles it well and i think anime in general handles stuff like that well if you watch a american movie or something it just turns in to a gender jerk fest where female empowerement just turns out to be shitting on the male. Here gabimaru and sagiri are on well the path to building each other up which is nice to see.
Already caught up on this shit but barely upload slime.
Not really the same thing at all though, is it?
Man really compared a 48 ep show to a 5 ep show that airs weekly