Klopp's Liverpool v Mourinho's Chelsea: Combined XI | The Eleven |

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2023
  • Liverpool fan Paul Machin and Chelsea supporter CareFreeLewisG debate who makes it into a team of Jurgen Klopp's Premier League champions of 19/20 and Jose Mourinho's title-winning Chelsea from 04/05 with Jack 'Pieface' McDermott as The Judge.
    The Eleven brings a classic pub debate to life. Two rival football fans go head-to-head, to debate which players would make it into a combined team from their clubs. The Judge - a neutral fan - has the final say on each position on the pitch.
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    Jack 'Pieface' McDermott: ‪@Pieface23‬
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  • @LADbible
    @LADbible  ปีที่แล้ว +50

    With thanks to Paul Machin, CareFreeLewisG and Jack 'Pieface' McDermott

    • @lucaorso5744
      @lucaorso5744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How Is Drogba better than Firmino in link up plays

  • @FountainOfYoot
    @FountainOfYoot ปีที่แล้ว +989

    Picking carvalho over Terry is peak football knowledge. That season he was impossible to play against.

    • @barry4649
      @barry4649 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Terry did win PFA Player of the Year that year for a reason though. That partnership was the best in Premier League history

    • @jamesharper586
      @jamesharper586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barry4649 hahaha

    • @wolverine_lme5059
      @wolverine_lme5059 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      though carvalho was a legend that season john terry was an unbelievable cb for the whole of his chelsea career and was the best leader that chelsea could have had

    • @tomaslima2371
      @tomaslima2371 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@barry4649 because he is english in england my man

    • @sjacko1066
      @sjacko1066 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@barry4649Premier team of the year, European defender of the year and PFA player of the year. In the Fifa pro world 11. But this clown thinks Ricky was better 😂

  • @AdamT-mv3ok
    @AdamT-mv3ok ปีที่แล้ว +264

    That Chelsea fan understood what the debate was about, thus he chose Carvalho over Terry, not sure the judge did.

  • @musapatel7414
    @musapatel7414 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Jose’s Chelsea was a different kind of beast

  • @Robyamdam
    @Robyamdam ปีที่แล้ว +712

    Pie face's weight loss and beating gambling addiction story is honestly inspiring.

    • @jamessetters8226
      @jamessetters8226 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Bit irrelevant

    • @oracle8589
      @oracle8589 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Looks like a young Bruce Campbell from an alternate universe where the Evil Dead was a flop so he never became famous and decided to eat his troubles away..

    • @LucasNauan
      @LucasNauan ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@jamessetters8226 How is it irrelevant when Pie is literally the moderator here? If this lad had made a compliment about a hot girl, I doubt that you would waste your time commenting that. Take a chill pill, we’re just showing a little respect to the lad’s work.

    • @bobbybobstar1496
      @bobbybobstar1496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Calm down simpasouras stop begging it

    • @gypsyking1645
      @gypsyking1645 ปีที่แล้ว

      He promotes kids to gamble on fifa

  • @-kallz-6108
    @-kallz-6108 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    11:25 Even as Liverpool fan there’s no way I’ve just heard Paul say Fabinho is the best DM in the Premier League, in 2023.

    • @clb6406
      @clb6406 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He loves him mate. Liverpool fan here too. Rodri/partey/Casemiro streets ahead atm

    • @Stev4e897
      @Stev4e897 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@clb6406 only this year

    • @shil2357
      @shil2357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Stev4e897 Don't live in the past man, the player is way behind those three mentioned.

    • @mika-eelkhan15
      @mika-eelkhan15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Casemiro plays Rugby mate😂

    • @peterfile4778
      @peterfile4778 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mika-eelkhan15 ofc doing things different making himself stand out from the rest doing rugby tackles

  • @DudeOnADualMotor
    @DudeOnADualMotor ปีที่แล้ว +81

    As much a legend as JT is, Carvalho was an absolute monster that season

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    3 gentlemen right there. Great to see Pieface doing so well after all the stuff he had to deal with, seems like such a good bloke.

    • @Yokemeister
      @Yokemeister ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What did he have to deal with?

    • @jw045
      @jw045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Yokemeister had a really bad gambling addiction and was fat

    • @JamieReynolds89
      @JamieReynolds89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jw045 was?

    • @robertsavage9655
      @robertsavage9655 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JamieReynolds89 nothing nice to say just don’t say anything? He was massive and has done very well for himself

    • @JamieReynolds89
      @JamieReynolds89 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertsavage9655 so you’re telling me to say nothing if I haven’t got surgut nice to say but you’re the one saying he was a massive lump of DNA?

  • @TJTOPBOY
    @TJTOPBOY ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The audacity to even make a case against Makelele for Fabinho lol

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In terms of careers, agreed. In terms of individual seasons, Fabinho was the best DM on the planet from 2018-2020. Whether he gets in or not, there is a debate.

    • @DS-dw3pz
      @DS-dw3pz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@tommyvinceze6249lol Kante Busquets, Caseimiro, Rodri etc2 all exists so stop it

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DS-dw3pz all those names you’ve said have had better careers, but you’re again missing the point it’s about individual seasons not a career. Even suggesting Rodri for that time period is an absolute embarrassment. Kante brilliant but played less than half the season he could never stay fit and Busquets is the best DM of all time but was well past his best. Casemiro is the only comparison.

  • @unluckygamer8821
    @unluckygamer8821 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    That Liverpool fan just compared Firminio to Bergkamp 😂😂😂

    • @leighpalmer1234
      @leighpalmer1234 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      In terms of technical ability absolutely

    • @delambo88
      @delambo88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leighpalmer1234 your sokong drugs

    • @rammerchandy1712
      @rammerchandy1712 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@leighpalmer1234 bruh

    • @handysphinx2125
      @handysphinx2125 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@leighpalmer1234 alr just shush

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@handysphinx2125 why don’t you

  • @xXxMrHashxXx
    @xXxMrHashxXx ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man said Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😩😩

  • @dv4092
    @dv4092 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    3 years of VVD and apparantly hes one of the best ever in prem history, behave man, JT 100x more of a prem legend than VVD

    • @Cnic0606
      @Cnic0606 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Prem legend doesn’t mean is better he’s just won more in the prem van dijk is the better defender I don’t know how anyone can disagree he beats him in every defensive attribute

    • @benclarke8214
      @benclarke8214 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@Cnic0606 no he’s not Lmfao

    • @Cnic0606
      @Cnic0606 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@benclarke8214 what has he got over van dijk not passing not pace no strength not defending not heading so tell me

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@benclarke8214 terry only has better leadership

    • @diskid3644
      @diskid3644 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Cnic0606 he literally doesn’t put a foot in, I know he had the injury but he was already falling off before that, if you’re scared to tackle people you can’t be called world class, I feel like he’d be getting a lot more criticism if he didn’t have Trent next to him putting in some of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from a supposedly ‘generational talent’

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Makelele playmaking ability was underrated. I remembered multiple teams in the EPL manmarked Makelele to stop the counter attacks he would release.

    • @C.Ronaldo7.2017
      @C.Ronaldo7.2017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Makelele was the team engine
      Bro was everywhere anytime
      After he left real Madrid they suffered a lot

    • @thedeviousgreek1540
      @thedeviousgreek1540 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The liverpool guy said he wouldnt be as effective in the ''modern game'', imagine that.

    • @colbymasvidal2397
      @colbymasvidal2397 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thedeviousgreek1540 Lol and yet Kante is out here working wonders in the BPL👌 and Makelele was a better playmaker than Kante, sure Makelele would be fine these days😊

    • @abdulhadi5419
      @abdulhadi5419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine?"
      -Zidane after Makelele was sold for Beckham

  • @lukee.h1471
    @lukee.h1471 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Carvalho was class..why was pie so shocked about that decision.

    • @m.a.r.4.5.6
      @m.a.r.4.5.6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      terry

    • @alextv293
      @alextv293 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@m.a.r.4.5.6 yeah Terry was worse than Carvalho you’re right fella x

    • @Milo_751
      @Milo_751 ปีที่แล้ว

      That goal against newcastle earlier this season was clutch

    • @sebschneiders3713
      @sebschneiders3713 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Milo_751 different carvalho

    • @alexrobinson1119
      @alexrobinson1119 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah I agree, Carvalho was class that season but John Terry (in the 04/05 season) was better than VVD was (in the 19/20 season)

  • @Ronnny77
    @Ronnny77 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Carvalho was a scary defender,great pick tbh,what an underappreciated player

  • @jonnyhawkins7744
    @jonnyhawkins7744 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    Great to see Pie being recognised as a good football pundit/ presenter

    • @bobbybobstar1496
      @bobbybobstar1496 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He isn't either here you plank

    • @jonnyhawkins7744
      @jonnyhawkins7744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bobbybobstar1496 What you on about?

    • @bobbybobstar1496
      @bobbybobstar1496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonnyhawkins7744 do you need help with everything?

    • @jonnyhawkins7744
      @jonnyhawkins7744 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobbybobstar1496 I think you do 'Bobby' you need it spoon fed to you.

    • @nottom7551
      @nottom7551 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jonnyhawkins7744 nah don’t get me wrong love pie seems like a top lad but had shite loads of bad takes in just this video

  • @Kelvin.uk1
    @Kelvin.uk1 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Are we going to skip past the fact he said he’s taking Robertson over prime Ashley Cole 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @PaulMuldoon97
      @PaulMuldoon97 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know it's laughable that Coles name is mentioned in such a debate guy is only known for shooting an academy player or something

    • @mrjdgamer4287
      @mrjdgamer4287 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@PaulMuldoon97 cole clear

    • @kaiblatch4992
      @kaiblatch4992 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@PaulMuldoon97 delusional mate cole is one of the best left backs of all time robbo could never 😅😅

    • @PaulMuldoon97
      @PaulMuldoon97 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Kai Blatch look at the all time assists for full backs in the prem and look who's at that top of it where oh where is Ashley

    • @PaulMuldoon97
      @PaulMuldoon97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kai Blatch Ashley Cole is literally what Glen Johnson would look like if he was a left back

  • @ItsHotshot
    @ItsHotshot ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Only top ball knowledge people know how underrated and under-appreciated Paulo Ferreira was guy always done his job well at Chelsea.

  • @ahux87
    @ahux87 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The Liverpool fan only ever watch Liverpool play or something?

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      What

    • @adamhart70
      @adamhart70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fyi he was on a wind up this video 😂

    • @georgetinsley1558
      @georgetinsley1558 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s most Liverpool fans. Most Liverpool fans were born in 2016 lol.

    • @markg6426
      @markg6426 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

  • @saadparvez165
    @saadparvez165 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Carvalho! So frikkin' good! Great shout! Unbelievably underrated centre back.

  • @jaypurcell3733
    @jaypurcell3733 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How can you say Terry didn’t have the making of a modern cb when he won the league in 14/15?

    • @moreish7193
      @moreish7193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the guys a Bell End

    • @timtebow2444
      @timtebow2444 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because Liverpool.

    • @big_smokes_house6085
      @big_smokes_house6085 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He's a Liverpool fan

    • @chrispeacock4614
      @chrispeacock4614 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Cos Liverpool fans can’t accept Van Dijk isn’t the player they think he is. He’s a fantastic centre half don’t get me wrong but he isn’t even top 10 centre backs of all time in the PL.

    • @xavier_2.0
      @xavier_2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrispeacock4614 hhahah never
      Already 3 years and hes in the debate
      He's wc only this season he's been off
      But even then he's picking up his performances
      He's got pace strength heading tackling and passing over jt
      The only think Jr had over him was the ability to shag ur bros wife

  • @ryanwibisono4147
    @ryanwibisono4147 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Bravo for noting Carvalho. He was superb and for at least 3 seasons I think he was better than JT. Might be the most underrated CB in Prem history (comments, I said underrated!)

  • @JamesG89
    @JamesG89 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    No proper Chelsea fan could ever back down on the JT Van Dijk argument

    • @ssamith3176
      @ssamith3176 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Terry all day

    • @colefranklin965
      @colefranklin965 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ssamith3176 no

    • @connorj6462
      @connorj6462 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@colefranklin965 oh yes

    • @moreish7193
      @moreish7193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      King JT all day

    • @chrispeacock4614
      @chrispeacock4614 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@colefranklin965 you can’t seriously think Terry is not as good as Van Dijk. He’s levels above and his longevity exceeds miles farther than Virgil.

  • @JayTheRed8
    @JayTheRed8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I am a die hard Red and been going home and away for 30 odd years. I have been fortunate enough to witness some of the best players to ever live in the flesh including Messi, Ronaldo, Fat Ronaldo, Nesta, Maldini, Cannavaro... the list goes on. However, putting my Virgil bias aside, John Terry is the best defender I have ever seen in person. Good with both feet, could ping, brave, strong, great in the air, scored goals, proper leader, proper captain and a serial winner. If there was ever a defender that I wish was a scouser who played for Liverpool it would have been him.

    • @AJ-dl2by
      @AJ-dl2by ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your a Chelsea fan trying to comment as a liverpool fan. You’re not fooling anyone 😂😂

    • @nathans1126
      @nathans1126 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@AJ-dl2by some people aren’t delusional and biased and can just speak the truth, it’s 2023 now brother, try it sometime

    • @mattvanemden7573
      @mattvanemden7573 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Im a Liverpooll supporter of 30+ years and i completely agree.

    • @JayTheRed8
      @JayTheRed8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AJ-dl2by no legit, John Terry was absolutely unbelievable and during our big rivalry there was nobody better.

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saying “Fat Ronaldo” is a bit disrespectful though is it not?

  • @Coxy_Wrecked
    @Coxy_Wrecked ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I also thought Carvalho was a better player than Terry.
    But I can understand why Terry is rated higher by Chelsea fans due to him playing far more games for them and achieving far more.

    • @dionb7584
      @dionb7584 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He was also rated higher when they played together. Terry literally won the PL POTY from CB in 04-05 and was in the UEFA TOTY regularly

    • @Coxy_Wrecked
      @Coxy_Wrecked ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dionb7584 Fair enough.I preferred Carvalho though.
      And he's cuter.

    • @oliandrews9739
      @oliandrews9739 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All these teens commenting how old was you all in 2004 ? Making out you know ball

    • @Coxy_Wrecked
      @Coxy_Wrecked ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliandrews9739 Not as old as you grandad.

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliandrews9739 no one asked

  • @faizanhussain9658
    @faizanhussain9658 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a class debate with no bullshit answers or reasons why just two guys who have decent ball knowledge

  • @CoryJT
    @CoryJT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the combined XI videos!

  • @shanelbannerman5166
    @shanelbannerman5166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im just glad of these videos i suffer mental health/depression but liverpool make me so so happy goodnight x

  • @jackward1087
    @jackward1087 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mentions everything other than defensive ability, which is why JT is the greatest Premier league defender.

    • @joshd171294
      @joshd171294 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greatest premier league CB*

  • @josephjoestar995
    @josephjoestar995 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The fact they went for Ricardo Carvallo and VVD is great ball knowledge

  • @ashconbeats8414
    @ashconbeats8414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good team I agree with most of it. Maybe Terry only 1 I would replace but not mad at Carvalho as he was a beast too!

  • @BobBob-ye3gz
    @BobBob-ye3gz ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video but can I ask what is Pieface's trim? It's confusing me.

  • @dougjones9448
    @dougjones9448 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Terry and Carvalho didn't concede the fewest goals in premier league history, it's a weirdly misrepresented fact that. Why does no one remember that Carvalho got injured just before the record clean sheet record run started then came back from injury the game it ended. Chelsea's best CB partnership statistically was Terry and Gallas

  • @craigwilliams2437
    @craigwilliams2437 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    from the back 4 and GK is all Chelsea with the 04/05 season the job is about defending and not conceding which they done the best simple facts.

    • @FloatLABSLB
      @FloatLABSLB ปีที่แล้ว

      Team stats do not completely define an individual players performance over the season

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just put Trent in there then it’s fine

    • @FountainOfYoot
      @FountainOfYoot ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@LoyalFan9383 if Trent was there they'd concede more than they did.

    • @hyywe240
      @hyywe240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FloatLABSLB but this isn't like they're saying Terry is great because he didn't concede goals? They're talking about the defence as a whole, there's kinda no denying that right?

    • @chrislfc2317
      @chrislfc2317 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FountainOfYoot Trent 19/20 was class at defending

  • @rossmcgowan123
    @rossmcgowan123 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Terry has the best passing accuracy in premier League history. I think they might be too young to remember much of the Chelsea team cause I heard a lot of waffle

    • @kaydenn2791
      @kaydenn2791 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Passing accuracy doesn't mean anything if he doesn't take risk

    • @rossmcgowan123
      @rossmcgowan123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaydenn2791 he was being compared to van dijk? Think about it. He did take risks too. He would knock it out wide and play passes through the middle. Just didn't hit worldly long balls

    • @user-io8cm4dk1f
      @user-io8cm4dk1f ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kaydenn2791 he used to ping the ball with either foot. Very underrated on the ball

  • @craigwilliams2437
    @craigwilliams2437 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    JT best prem centre back of all time 17 years of class

    • @emperorpalpatine4681
      @emperorpalpatine4681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rio better player. JT more influential to his team and better leader. Close matchup.

    • @FloatLABSLB
      @FloatLABSLB ปีที่แล้ว

      How about that season?

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FloatLABSLB very good

    • @FloatLABSLB
      @FloatLABSLB ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoyalFan9383 better than vvd or cavalho?

    • @IonicWood97
      @IonicWood97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VVD finished 2nd in the Ballon D'or. There's not one aspect of Terry's game that was better than prime Virgil.

  • @ulferiksen4583
    @ulferiksen4583 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am sure John Terry was pretty painful to play against for strikers. Great leader aswell.

  • @FurioussBear
    @FurioussBear ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If anybody watched carvalho before and after Chelsea. They will know the fella was one of the best defenders of his generation. From a porto fan. I tell ya the man has a footballing iq on par with the best. I'm not gonna sit here and say he was better or worse than Terry or any other top level defender. However, comparing him to the greatest shouldn't be a shock as he is a great himself. Prem league watchers just live in their own bubble and anything beyond that is out of their reach.

    • @marcosilva2319
      @marcosilva2319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eles sabem que o Carvalho foi melhor, mas o terry é ingles e para eles isso faz a diferença. Senao admitiam que o Carvalho foi melhor que Terry nessa epoca

  • @robscott5469
    @robscott5469 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Exactly the team I would have picked. Fair play

  • @invisible3237
    @invisible3237 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Mourinho' team easy win

    • @nolpan9708
      @nolpan9708 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just no

    • @kas6177
      @kas6177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nolpan9708just yes

  • @newgorkcity
    @newgorkcity ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Liverpool Luxury: Only 1 Title and you're suddenly the best in Prem History

    • @97YNWA97
      @97YNWA97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well statistically we are one of the best teams in prem history based of points tally’s. Liverpool have got 90+ points in 3 seasons. Only Chelsea once and City 3x have ever got over 90 points.

    • @Johnster123.
      @Johnster123. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well this is based off a single season. 98 points. 33 wins, most of any team in PL history.

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why’s a Man City fan talking, win a champions league then talk

    • @hi-ls6lt
      @hi-ls6lt ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the swarm of scousers coming to this comment 😂

    • @newgorkcity
      @newgorkcity 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LoyalFan9383😂

  • @Infernius
    @Infernius ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Chelsea conceeded 16 goals the entire season yet somehow the back 4 has 3 Liverpool players in it...

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, because sometimes the records aren’t just down to individual players, they’re down to systems. Liverpool played all out attacking football, Mourinho played very defensive football, so naturally they will concede fewer goals. Can you really debate Trent VVD or Robertson, three of the best individual seasons of all time in their positions?

    • @taygoudie6974
      @taygoudie6974 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cole over Trent all day long and ivanovic over Robertson 😂 tf

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@taygoudie6974 what?

    • @grapefruit531
      @grapefruit531 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously because mourinho plays strictly defensive football

    • @Infernius
      @Infernius ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommyvinceze6249 I'd peck Paulo over TAA personally, the lad is quality on the ball but cannot defend and I've got enough attacking players to not worry about my right back chipping in.

  • @Crubey23
    @Crubey23 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Do you like vanilla ice cream?" LMAO

  • @Laktoositonkevytmaitojuoma
    @Laktoositonkevytmaitojuoma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these when the guys actually have ball knowledge

  • @jakehare8820
    @jakehare8820 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Van Dijk is a class centre back and one of the best the prem has seen but there is no way you can say he is better than John Terry

    • @nolpan9708
      @nolpan9708 ปีที่แล้ว

      How? Name me 2 things terry is better at

    • @boxinganalysis9818
      @boxinganalysis9818 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nolpan9708 defensive awareness, leadership, could pass with both feet, highest scoring cb in prem history, consistent for 10+ years, went a whole prem season only conceding 13 goals. Being big and covering distance quickly doesn’t make you better then the best cb in prem history ffs 😂

    • @eddyededwin
      @eddyededwin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boxinganalysis9818 i mean he is quite literally the best leader of all time and prolly top 5 best goal scoring defenders in the prem lol

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boxinganalysis9818 this is the point you’re struggling with. We are not comparing who is the greater premier league centre back, because the answer would be JT for his longevity like you say. We’re comparing individual seasons, a season in which VVD finished only a handful of votes off winning the Ballon Dor, he was that good. No CB on the planet came close to him from 2018 up until he done his ACL.

  • @NotRealMusicRyan
    @NotRealMusicRyan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Chelsea fan had a great amount of knowledge

  • @kodokumusic7602
    @kodokumusic7602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One guy was talking about a player performance that year , while the other was talking about the players carrer in the club overall .

  • @Boxy005
    @Boxy005 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never seen anyone as good in one on one situations as Alisson? Big Pete was the best at one on ones.

  • @carefreelewisg
    @carefreelewisg ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for having me on!

    • @Robyamdam
      @Robyamdam ปีที่แล้ว

      "take him on"

    • @mardanhar82
      @mardanhar82 ปีที่แล้ว

      GGs Lewis! yo we just signed Noni! :)

  • @chrisa3350
    @chrisa3350 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cup final coming up and I'm asking to pick Prime Terry or Prime Virgil.. Its a close one but I'd go for Terry. Despite all his off field issues he was a proper leader on the pitch. Not quick but his positioning was top and Id back him to put his body on the line more than Virgil. Both quality players though

  • @mtth6758
    @mtth6758 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cech, Trent, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Lampard, Essien, Makelele, Salah, Drogba, Mane. No debate.

    • @g-1393
      @g-1393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No debate cuz u said so?💀

  • @kingofthebridge8339
    @kingofthebridge8339 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you take the careers of the players into account rather than just one isolated season you would have more Chelsea players as they had an era of dominance rather than just one title winning season.

  • @sexybabatunde5271
    @sexybabatunde5271 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The Chelsea fan keeps grabbing the orange juice like we're going to steal it off him

  • @damienjose5640
    @damienjose5640 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus how is Drogba and firminho a debate. Drogba was a beast

  • @zeestreats7
    @zeestreats7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    There is no argument to be had between Drogba and Firmino. Drogba is miles clear

    • @jojadoom
      @jojadoom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In which way?

    • @akramebrahim1446
      @akramebrahim1446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In getting red card for slapping vidic. I love him for that. Lol lol 😆 for me his finest moment.

    • @stivib5937
      @stivib5937 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not that big of difference

  • @kaidiya2403
    @kaidiya2403 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Comparing Roberto Firmino to Dennis Bergkamp is the epitome of Liverpool delusions.

  • @mattbond2359
    @mattbond2359 ปีที่แล้ว

    I certainly remember thiago's goal at Old Trafford that season 🚀

  • @gerardkelly8005
    @gerardkelly8005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Trent Delusion lmfao

  • @timmy5876
    @timmy5876 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the chelsea fan makes a bit of sense though, it’s a bit like choosing matip over konate based off last season, matip was better but konate will probably go on to have a better career so looking back people will say konate was the better centre back when realistically it was matip, it’s just konate showed the potential he had

    • @chrislfc2317
      @chrislfc2317 ปีที่แล้ว

      But this is about two seasons only

  • @Bridgevillian
    @Bridgevillian ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Imagine having a CB who’s been good for 18 months over terry 😂

    • @DevDRed-ns3hg
      @DevDRed-ns3hg ปีที่แล้ว +29

      good for 18 months but made uefa TOTY 4/5 years loooool

    • @FountainOfYoot
      @FountainOfYoot ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DevDRed-ns3hg and then nosedived.

    • @anandchaudhary1675
      @anandchaudhary1675 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DevDRed-ns3hg People still says Van djik is best CB and he has made many errors leading to goal. He doesn't get banter as much as other CB get. Van djik is really good defender but not as good as Terry. That season when Van djik was on top because Liverpool played with 3 midfielder who did lots of defensive work and made Van djik look much better. But still Van djik is good , not much good as Terry.

    • @DevDRed-ns3hg
      @DevDRed-ns3hg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FountainOfYoot lol social media narrative he's been very good the last 2 months but hey go off

    • @FountainOfYoot
      @FountainOfYoot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DevDRed-ns3hg lol congratulations he's been very good for the last two months. How has he been this season?
      Also...which one of the top defenders in PL history has been a starter for a team that conceded 7 goals?

  • @OneAndOnlyLC
    @OneAndOnlyLC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To even suggest Robertson above Ashley Cole is utterly ridiculous.

  • @littleninj0r
    @littleninj0r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having a laugh with Firminio there, only think he went for that because of the initial Robben debate lol

    • @matrix35
      @matrix35 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He couldnt let that one go. So biased. Also delusional thinking Alison over Cech!

  • @shanemcclean7838
    @shanemcclean7838 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did he just say that firmino will be remembered in the same light as Dennis bergkamp? 🤣

  • @successschhoolofmotoring
    @successschhoolofmotoring ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Liverpool fan absolutely delusional, Robertson over Cole if he'd played for Chelsea that season 🙄.

    • @vakhogotsiridze6488
      @vakhogotsiridze6488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cole played at arsenal at that time

    • @Johnster123.
      @Johnster123. ปีที่แล้ว

      Based off a single season Robertson got like 13 assists, kept 21 clean sheets, show some respect.

    • @alanhock5760
      @alanhock5760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vakhogotsiridze6488 that's why he said " if he'd played for Chelsea that season"🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @IonicWood97
      @IonicWood97 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robertson most assists from a fullback in Prem history. Nostalgia can be a powerful thing.

  • @timmy5876
    @timmy5876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it’s tough doing this as u can base it off prime season of whole career, like jt had a better career than vvd but vvd’s peak season was better

  • @Watcher7081
    @Watcher7081 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with everything save Carvalho over Terry. Nice one

  • @kjctvsym1
    @kjctvsym1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm a liverpool fan but firmino over drogba is got to be one of the worst things I've ever heard

    • @akramebrahim1446
      @akramebrahim1446 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are u mad .... firminos a better better footballer any day of the year. Drogba is only useful in chelskis mourinhio filthball. Kick players hoof the ball kick out of play crap. Bobby is just sublime. You are no liverpool or football fan. Dnt u dare disrespect Bobby firminio. 300 games for us . The player that makes us play.

    • @kjctvsym1
      @kjctvsym1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@akramebrahim1446 I highly rate firmino, one of are best players in the klopp era but if u think he's better then drogba Ur smoking spice bro

    • @akramebrahim1446
      @akramebrahim1446 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kjctvsym1 he is better than Drogba. Go support Drogba well support n cherish the best in the world bobby firmino. Drogbas just a thug on a field compared to bobby football wise.

    • @akramebrahim1446
      @akramebrahim1446 ปีที่แล้ว

      You saying you a liverpool fans the worst thing I ever heard. You are no liverpool supporter. Ur one of those fools that would boo hendo. N put a legend of our team behind Drogba

    • @kjctvsym1
      @kjctvsym1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@akramebrahim1446 I've been supporting since 2003 u melt, drogba 2005 season was better then firmino 2019 season, the worst thing you've ever heard 😂, have u ever even been to anfield?

  • @andrewspence4934
    @andrewspence4934 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    John Terry and Ashley Cole should get in there all day long.
    And although the focus is on one particular season for each club, Terry and Cole had more good seasons at their peak than Virgil and Robertson are showing currently.

    • @stephenskyle609
      @stephenskyle609 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Ashley Cole from Arsenal should get into a Chelsea 04/05 and Liverpool 19/20 combined season?

    • @wh4169
      @wh4169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephenskyle609 🤣🤣🤣

    • @hyywe240
      @hyywe240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've not watched the whole video but did they not pick ashely Cole? That's stupid

    • @wafflesjmr
      @wafflesjmr ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You just stated the focus is ONE particular season and you still go on to make that statement about other seasons........

    • @Rkid26.
      @Rkid26. ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Cole didn’t join Chelsea until ‘06 mate

  • @cashmoneysniper4166
    @cashmoneysniper4166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have as the best Premier League defensive partnership, Terry and Carvalho or Vidić and Rio, so hard not to have both in

  • @OdynFX
    @OdynFX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Delusion was real when he said he would of picked Robertson over Cole

  • @rejguon2378
    @rejguon2378 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Paolo fereira was a monster lads

  • @snookerstones
    @snookerstones ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Feels like this was filmed months ago with Paul opinion on Fabinho

    • @thethreeeamibros
      @thethreeeamibros ปีที่แล้ว +3

      so you clearly havent watched what the video concept is. Typical thick city fan

    • @Jeevzsk
      @Jeevzsk ปีที่แล้ว

      But its 19/20. Fab was 100% the best dm that season

    • @snookerstones
      @snookerstones ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jeevzsk if he meant that season then I agree but he said it like he meant right now. I like him by the way, very honest fan.

    • @snookerstones
      @snookerstones ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thethreeeamibros relax bro

  • @lordvader7623
    @lordvader7623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What’s Lewis smokin there Robben over Salah? 😂

  • @HarryOsborneAS31
    @HarryOsborneAS31 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The biggest reason Carvalho's name doesn't get mentioned in best centrebacks conversations is because he isn't English.

  • @dannyduggan4324
    @dannyduggan4324 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How dominant were liverpool when they won the league?
    Still didn't have the best defence in prem history. Carvalho and JT were incredible.
    I had a season ticket over that time and often would check the reviews of games. Terry would get a 7 or 8 rating and Carvalho would get a 6 when if anything, would be the other way around.
    Drogba wasnt the player he became ironically until Shevchenko arrived.
    My team.
    Cech
    Trent
    Carvalho
    Terry
    Robertson
    Makalele
    Lampard
    Henderson
    Salah
    Drogba
    Mane

    • @HT008
      @HT008 ปีที่แล้ว

      How dominate? Fastest team to win the prem ever! That’s how dominate lol

    • @dannyduggan4324
      @dannyduggan4324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HT008 exactly my point. Still didn't do what Chelsea did in 04/05. Which if you carried on reading and could process information you would have understood.

  • @akh__.0176
    @akh__.0176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😂😂😂😂😂the football knowledge is crazy

  • @NachoInsano
    @NachoInsano ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That liverpool is a weapon. Trying to play down makelele as nostalgia and saying how he wouldn’t be good in the modern day prem 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @benclarke8214
    @benclarke8214 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How do Liverpool have the best players in every position in prem history yet only have 1 premier league title

    • @sib1930
      @sib1930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not the point

    • @unnamed3086
      @unnamed3086 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 games difference and it’s 3. All about perspective mate

    • @mchachorichard1166
      @mchachorichard1166 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 good point

    • @HT008
      @HT008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because city have a better squad lol kinda obvs

    • @dozz87
      @dozz87 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who said that? I’ve seen rival fans post that rubbish online, but haven’t heard many lfc fans actually say it though? Even in this video Paul wasn’t saying that 😂

  • @thembandovi9750
    @thembandovi9750 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Can’t believe VVD made it into this team. JT makes it into every single PL team,no questions asked.

    • @marko9463
      @marko9463 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      To be fair its that year where vvd was mopping everything up, I believe terry’s best year was not this year. What im tryna say is the argument is the year specifically. Vvd and terry were close in terms of what they were to each team that season.

    • @danielmchale7635
      @danielmchale7635 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Van Dyk that Season was the best player/defended in the world he was acknowledged for a Balloon Dor and should've won

  • @erikrosberg8734
    @erikrosberg8734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are they making these videos for mid table teams?

  • @TageChe98
    @TageChe98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are pies eyes moving so crazy 😂

  • @joaotopa3263
    @joaotopa3263 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    no ball knowledge, Ricardo Carvalho was by far the best CB of them all

  • @WhatTimeIsIt999
    @WhatTimeIsIt999 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Van Dijk had 3 good seasons. Terry was at Chelsea for over 10 years.

    • @chrislfc2317
      @chrislfc2317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But this is about the 19/20 season, they're bot ranking them based off their careers

  • @rodrigoluz1949
    @rodrigoluz1949 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am Portuguese and Carvalho its top 2 center backs from Portugal. He goes against pepe but even when he was playing with 38 he was one of the best cbs on the world

  • @lukebailey7800
    @lukebailey7800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thinking Robertson would come out on top of Ashley Cole who was the best LB the prem has seen is peak Liverpool fan

  • @alexrobinson1119
    @alexrobinson1119 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Stick for choosing Cech????? He played 35 games and kept 24 clean sheets.
    If anybody picks Alisson, they need their head checking.

    • @jamiehayes5888
      @jamiehayes5888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A goal keeper is only as good as there defence .
      Put cech in a different side he would have had less clean sheets right or wrong ?

    • @rbstickymicky66
      @rbstickymicky66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong

    • @sharvaansharex
      @sharvaansharex ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has proven u wrong throughout the years

    • @jamiehayes5888
      @jamiehayes5888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharvaansharex how has he ?
      His A shot stopper his shit at commanding his area his shit with his feet 🤣
      There are so many out there better that can do the lot .

    • @sharvaansharex
      @sharvaansharex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has been a world class gk for man utd, got into multiple team of the seasons while his backlines have been Jones,Maguire,Smalling,Rojo etc

  • @vietkong1
    @vietkong1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That Liverpool guy is too funny
    1 compares Bloody firmino to Berkamp 🤷‍♂️
    2 would pick Robertson even if Ashley Cole was there that season OMG 🤣
    3 lastly says Trent might be known as the best right back ever once he finishes his career 😭 OK mate Cafu & Alves were cricketers
    Liverpool guy is more biased than Gary Neville

    • @nathans1126
      @nathans1126 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clueless Liverpool fan, it’s sad to see but it’s the world we live in

    • @nmz3450
      @nmz3450 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every Liverpool fan is like this, they haven't had success for so long, got lucky with Klopp and now think all these decent players who Klopp made are the best in the world

    • @spinofthewheel5345
      @spinofthewheel5345 ปีที่แล้ว

      He thinks speaking fast and using his hands to speak makes his point a fact

  • @fahimahmed9098
    @fahimahmed9098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that’s a very very fair team 👏🏽

  • @BUSSINJUSTIN10M
    @BUSSINJUSTIN10M ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s the That’s Class Kid

  • @Mrnom93
    @Mrnom93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Chelsea Backline and GK beats liverpools Backline And GK All day long conceding 15 goals for a whole premier league season is mental and wont be beaten

    • @jamiehayes5888
      @jamiehayes5888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh but that was down to a low block set up from mourinho too.
      Not just about the defenders you had.
      Chelsea were set up to not lose games .

    • @Stev4e897
      @Stev4e897 ปีที่แล้ว

      every record will be beaten someday

    • @Mrnom93
      @Mrnom93 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jamie Hayes well yeah because mourinho played counter attacking football low block defensive and made it hard to play against and win on a 1-0 hence why his home record of staying unbeaten for 77 games was mental Liverpool was the closest but failed

    • @Mrnom93
      @Mrnom93 ปีที่แล้ว

      @National Treasure with the way teams are playing attacking football I doubt it and having high scoring games all the time I doubt it to concede 15 goals in a season is pretty special

  • @timmy5876
    @timmy5876 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the cole vs robertson debate is hard, robertson did nothing wrong defensively and going forward he’d provide so much, yes cole was better defensively but robertson would only give away 2/3 goals a season from individual errors whereas he’d provide 10 assists a year, cole wouldn’t concede any. It’s similar to trent vs walker, walker wouldn’t make defensive errors but wouldn’t do much going forward, trent would give up a couple goals but assist 15

  • @joeutm212
    @joeutm212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Trent can’t defend point is lazy. 1v1 he’s solid, over his shoulder he’s very weak but 1v1 he’s incredibly sound. This year he’s got the best tackles success rate out of all the English rbs

  • @HANASANAChannel
    @HANASANAChannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best right back to play the game ? Dani alv from Barca ?

  • @craigwilliams2437
    @craigwilliams2437 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it's an era thing Liverpool fans so delusional Ashley Cole better than any LB Liverpool have ever had

  • @GM-qg7zb
    @GM-qg7zb ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If it's season Klopp won the league before 6-8 games before the season ended dominated 3-0 3-2 4-0 5-0 every game destroying team while Jose did have best defence domination alone klopp

    • @FloatLABSLB
      @FloatLABSLB ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence

    • @Kloppsserialbottlers
      @Kloppsserialbottlers ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@FloatLABSLB He's scouse, they type like they talk, arseways.

    • @LoyalFan9383
      @LoyalFan9383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kloppsserialbottlers but I thought Liverpool fans were plastic

    • @sib1930
      @sib1930 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kloppsserialbottlers Better than being a posh londoner

  • @olivernewton8584
    @olivernewton8584 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of people debating on the comments wasn't even old enough to have a say, they just played fifa.
    Both are great and not much puts them apart, I'd pick Terry as I just remember key moments where he shone and playing a lot later in his career doing the same thing

  • @douglaswright2143
    @douglaswright2143 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robertson is nowhere close to Ashley Cole!

  • @Liam-sh2nh
    @Liam-sh2nh ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I don’t think you can have a debate about Salah One of the best players in premier league history

    • @wehatemancs4393
      @wehatemancs4393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Manc

    • @filthyuncleben2645
      @filthyuncleben2645 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      hazard>salah

    • @asianwarrior2193
      @asianwarrior2193 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@filthyuncleben2645 the guy that was finished at 29?

    • @zorenwhite7886
      @zorenwhite7886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@asianwarrior2193 Salah is finished at 30

    • @VishwadeepShinde
      @VishwadeepShinde ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zorenwhite7886 Yeah. Scoring 17goals and 6 assist this season in 28 games is finished. The Liverpool team is struggling overall but still he's scoring goals. Give some respect to the man.

  • @skyshooter4009
    @skyshooter4009 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The greatest CB partnership in The League were JT and Carvalho. VDV had two great seasons in his career and Liverpool fans act like he was one of the greatest. I will place the likes of Vidic ahead of him.

    • @chrislfc2317
      @chrislfc2317 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In terms of career wise yes, but this is about 19/20 season vs 04/05 season

    • @tommyvinceze6249
      @tommyvinceze6249 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrislfc2317 well said Chris

  • @oneeightyfour
    @oneeightyfour ปีที่แล้ว

    Was William Gallas playing right/left-back during Chelsea's 04/05 title-winning season? Imo Gallas is better than Carvalho as a CB and makes an even more monstrous CB pairing with John Terry.