1969 GTO Project "Bad Company" - Part 4 - WORST ENGINE EVER and Metal Repair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มี.ค. 2021
- Part 4 in the series covering the restoration my 1969 Pontiac GTO after it sat neglected for over 38 years. In this video, I inspect the original Pontiac 400 engine, then begin some of the metal repair. We hope you like this update, thank you for watching!
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It is channels like this that help me remember when I was younger and seen these old cars when they were new
Glad it brings back some good memories Jim, we appreciate you watching!
I had one , 68 , exactly like this one, the green one , mine had a factory 400 HO , 360 HP, super T-10 Borg Warner 4 speed and a 390 posi rearend . Love watching you work , I know how hard it is ,I have done it !
You are very wise beyond your years.
A lifetime of knowledge you have at a young age.
Restoring the Past
Thanks for sharing the progress with the latest GTO. It's great to see these classic cars restored to working order. Looks like you're living a dream.
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!
Exactly from the guy who said ,keep it real, because so many you tubers start off doing real stuff and when they get really popular and making lots of money, they go off on the big time stuff like burn our contest, travelling coast to coast, buying expensive rigs and other things. At that point I stop watching !
No one will ever accuse Jordan of taking on easy projects, I would have run off screaming into the night as soon as I saw the mouse nest at the bottom of the engine. Hats off to you sir.
Yeah, this one will definitely be a challenge. Thanks for watching Dan!
If the plague makes a comeback I'm blaming on that motor.
The beauty of this channel is it’s so real. Make sure you keep it this way 👍
Thanks man, we appreciate you watching! We have no plans of fancying anything up around here. We just do it how we do it.
I agree! You guys keep it real.
That could be a t shirt “we just do it how we do it”
I've used your tip on how to get stuck bolts out by going back and forth and it has saved me so many headaches.
That's good to hear. Obviously, it doesn't always work, but it give you the best chance.
Cool old GTO
It is great to see you save a awesome car. Thanks (as always) for sharing.
You do good work here man. Appreciate the passion and I like the route of the project. 🍻
Hey Jordan,
Nice work seems like you are adding more projects,
Never a dull moment.
Thanks Michael, we always have plenty going on, that's for sure :)
All too many would have walked away from this car, including me. Not Jordan! I love his can do attitude! And, as someone else said, he and his Dad keep it real.
It's a challenging one for sure, but it'll get done eventually. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Yay. More videos. I really need to get to work on my 6.0l build on my trans am. Love the content guys.
Thanks for watching, we appreciate it! Good luck with the engine build!
Great work, good progress.
I would never weld in a patch panel like this in the open air, I would weld it on, attached to the car, to make sure, the body lines are correct. There is a big chance they are not, when welding them in open air like this.
Keep the upload coming, it's always nice to see a GTO getting back on road, bit by bit :- )
Looks like you are having fun... Thanks for Sharing. I Love Pontiacs
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to episode 5!
Honestly at first I was not sure what to think. Then I kept watching and realized I was being motivated to do and learn more, thank you, Paul
I have a 70 GTO, that I have restored. I enjoy reliving the process. I believe the color of your 69 is Verduro Green.
That's cool that you restored a '70. You're right, mine is Verdoro Green. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Goats coming together nicely!! put a hitch on it and tow the other one to the track on race day.. that would turn heads.. lol
That would be pretty great...lol.
Coming along, tons of work! Sucks that motor was so bad, but you've got this, Jordan!
Yeah, it would have been nice if the engine was in decent shape. I do already have another Pontiac 400 from 1970 though, so I'm going to build it instead. I may just build this one as a 406 though, not a 461 like the other one. Still figuring all that out. Thanks for watching Adam!
Your videos are great. You make me want to work on my cars “ LOL I do” but you make it look so fun. Keep it up love the videos.
Thanks man, we appreciate that. Good luck with your projects!
My dad and I have a 1968 GTO project like your last one, but with the back spoiler and hideaways. We’ve had it for some time but haven’t worked on it much due to projects on the house. I think I’ve convinced him to help me start back up on it soon!
We had the same thing going on. We got sidetracked working on a house for a while too. That stuff just happens sometimes. Good luck with your GTO!
Thanks! You too! I loved the ‘68 and can’t wait to see your vision come to life with this one!
Thanks for sharing the progress with the latest GTO. It's great to see these classic cars restored to working order. I was hoping to see you fire it up, hear the sound of Detroit Iron
Good thing you didn't try to get it running before you pulled the pan off.
I don't thing there was much danger of this thing running..lol. This really is the worst engine I've seen in a long time.
It looked super nasty, glad I can't smell it, mouse urine and old oil has to be a nasty combo.
Holy Moses that truck Was on the titanic as well Erika has a lot of fun and great humor you Are lovely People
Thank you Tom, and yes, that truck is extremely rusty. We aren't sure what we're even doing with it yet. We were thinking about building a rat rod, by placing it on a later model chassis.
I have been waiting for this cool
Jordan keep up the great work!
Thanks Steven, I appreciate you watching!
Wish I had the space and the tools and health 68 and 69 are my dream car.
Need an English wheel.. looking good. You have a great start on a classic collection. Great content, ty
She gots hips! Classy build 🤩🖖
Good stuff man!
Thanks for watching!
Nice work ,
Thanks Mark, we appreciate you watching!
she will be up and running before we know it, live watching these videos I’m a big Pontiac guy, that’s all I was raised up building, I was brought home from the hospital in 92 in a 69 Grand Prix HO 428 4 speed so Pontiac blood runs in my blood.
That's awesome man. I have a similar story, my Dad actually got pulled over on the way to the hospital when I as being born. I almost bought a built 428 here locally about a year ago. Money was a little tight at the time though, so I passed on it. I'm kicking myself now for not getting it. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Jedi repair shop in full gear motor must have been in the titanic wow but you Can always fix it lot of welding i had a Granada same rust and a lot of fun working on it what motor Will yuo put in it 😎 cool car i realy would like to help you rebuilding this car love to work like this wow absolutly fun thanks jeff and Jordan for this video i enjoy every moment have a great Day from tom your friend always 🤩 🤩
Right now, Jordan's thinking about boring out a 400 Pontiac to a 406, then adding forged pistons and a larger cam. Thank you Tom, hope you have a great day too!
I own a 69 GTO,a long time ago; what a car.wow!!
I’m late to the game as your channel popped up last night with the first video of the series. I’ve binge watched all four so far, and look forward to the upcoming ones
I love your big German Shepherd. My wife had one (7 years old) that she drove from Midlothian, Tx to Pennsylvania to bring him home. He was about 12 weeks and spent his life with us as an indoor/outdoor member of our family. He was the same sable color as Max(?) but someone or something poisoned him about 3 weeks ago.
Sorry to hear about your dog, that's sad. Thanks for watching our videos, we appreciate it!
I had no idea crayfish ever came out of the water! That’s crazy that you’ve had them crawl on you when wrenching on the cars, haha.
Hey it's the GTO, what a sight for sore eyes.
Had one just like her in 1980 great car
I hope there is a part 5 to come
I want this car i cant find one like this one in this condition for a reasonable price 😢
Long live Pontiac
Love the green on the car
Nice build, had a 69 GOAT back in the day. still have a 69 400 block that's drilled and tapped for four bolt caps , 'but has two bolt caps. Pontiac went on the ''cheap at times".
VERY IMPRESSED WITH JORDAN ON GOING GROWTH AND KNOWLEDGE....THE CHANNEL IS WARM AND NOT COLD AND PRESENTED WITH REALIZISM AND NOT EGOTISTICAL
Thank you Shawn, we appreciate the kind words!
Met you at the old gas Mart in Highland the other day, would like to stop by sometime if you wouldn’t mind
That front pc you put on the car with a radiator sets is that the body Mounts that hold it into place
I had to cut the part of the core support off where the 1970 fan shroud would fit and the insides of the support were tight against inside frame rails. Still have to trim up a little as the hood latch needs to go towards driver's side a good quarter inch. That's what happens when they give you a core support that fits three years. Also had to drill holes for top of fan shroud. All of them. Kind of a pain. Glad you also have the patience lol
Jordan what did you use to paint the frame of the GTO? Is the black paint rust bullet or por15?
So glad I live in Texas no real rust issues.
is there and ending to this build its september and i cant find one
I saw on the other GTO it had 275/60-15 Mickey Thompsons. Would 295/65-15s also fit a 1968-72 GTO? Using a 15x10 with 5" backspace wheel? Great work guys, thanks for giving us pontiac guys some awesome content.
I forgot to ask do you put racket pinion steering in it and powerboster in it
It will have a traditional hydraulic power steering box, but I am putting a quicker ratio box on it.
What kind of welding is that?
With all the extra work (nice work also) installing those patches you still think those patches are better or worth it then what you would get from Ames or Year One?
You definitely get what you pay for, but when money is tight, my labor is free :)
The WT block guys is NOT a 4 bolt main block from the factory. Though some were drilled at the factory for 4 bolt caps, this could have been drilled when the engine was rebuilt. Further, the WT engine is not like the RAIII WS block in that, the exhaust manifolds on the WS flowed much better and hence a better HP rating. The 068 cam is stock in the WT block but early WS RAIII blocks had the 744 cam which was quite a bit wilder.
Good job Jordon, we learn a lot from you. It’s good to see someone doing bodywork. What do you paint on the back side of the fender? Thank you
If I'm painting the back side of a panel that won't be welded on, I typically just use a quality spray paint. Usually flat or satin black. If I want to coat something that I will be welding on later, I use a spray can weld through primer.
How did it get into the oil pan I was confused by the explanation you came up with explain it again now cuz I'm really scratching my head here on that one ..
I really don't have a good explanation either, but it got in there somehow.
How is the frame??
When will this be back on the channel?
Where is episode 5 ?
And those are the round port heads too!!! What a crying shame!!!!!
What brand of wheels are on the car now?
I like them.
Thanks! They're race stars
Pontiac drilled the blocks in that time for 4 bolt mains for anticipating selling more RAM AIR 4 engines but most buyers opted for the lower performance 400 RA 3 or lower. Hopefully the 'owner' put anti freeze in the radiator or that block is toast as well. you won't know until it's particle tested. Sad how Pontiac was so under appreciated in the day, they built super performance engines. Check out Big Chief 70 GTO vids, they really run hard, if built properly.
make a great boat anchor..
Did you ever run the numbers on the engine?
It is the original engine. It has the #48 heads because it's a four-speed car, but it didn't come with the ram-air setup.
2:35 that's called rust porting
Rare option indeed.
What The fuck is going on!!! How on earth is it even possible for The heads to be that bad! Ive never ever seen anything like that!
No shit, it looks like it was parked with the front end in a creek.
@@RamblinAround or like its been sitting in the saltiest water you could ever imagine 😢
I live close to bad chad you got him beat by miles
Thanks Bud, I appreciate that. I actually do watch Bad Chad sometimes.
I'm thinking that the white dusty gritty powder might be bone..... animal bone?....and yes... that's damn dirty disgusting for sure!....rather you than me but I live your enthusiasm.
I wish my wife was as cool as your girlfriend, when I bring home more projects. My current project is a 72 El Camino...
I am lucky that she is into cars too. We're getting ready to work on her Firebird pretty soon. Good luck with your El Camino!
Do y’all know a good machinist near St Louis area (2 hour radius)? The guy my cousin knew retired and said he didn’t want to touch an engine again in his life
I've found out that it's worth the money to buy quality parts. On that last panel I would have just repaired the original one.
Since it seems you do a lot of body work, if you get a little bit of money at some point, it might be a good idea to invest in a plasma cutter to save you a lot of time and energy. They've been around since before you were born. 😊
That thing has to been submerged . Looks like shipwreck artifacts lol
looking at main caps,motor looks like it might be a 69' 428 390hp i could be wrong.
plus the 48 casting on heads think they were small valve with a funky intake degree where typical intake wont line up, supposedly 428 wasn't a factory option but common for dealer swap, but rumored some did come factory with 428s and a poss myth that couple of gtos even came factory with bb chevy 396/402
It's a 400, I have the build sheet for it. 48 heads were ram air 3, HO, or standard on 4 speed cars. All 3 engines had the same heads, cam, intake, manifolds, etc. Only difference was ram air or dual snorkel air grabber. Although the previous owner told me at some point in the 70s they put an aftermarket cam in this one. not that it matters now. It's plenty roached.
@@jordan-ramblinaround2323 ok been 20y since i yanked mine apart now i recall it was 46 not 48 lol
yeah 46s were funky my 69' gto had 62s may not reuse bout to overhaul i was runnin like 12 to 1
@@hotrod6919 I just wish it was in usable condition. I loosened the caps, and tried to turn it over, wouldn't budge. This one is locked up tight. Probably the worst engine I've ever encountered unfortunately.
No way the mice entered the combustion chamber via the Intake or Exhaust and got in the oil pan.
You would have to have holes in the pistons?!
We are still trying to figure out how they got in there, it's pretty odd.
Craftsman.
Thanks Wally, I appreciate that!
You know it's bad when that (forget the name of) piece in the oil pan is rusted!!!!!......?windage tray I think
looks like a victim of Quaker state oil
Haven’t seen any new stuff
Lol......I got a real kick out of this
Those heads are D ports and don't look to be 4X, 6X, or 16s. They look to be 48s which aren't a big loss lol
48 heads are ram air 3 and HO heads / manual trans heads. they're big valve high flow heads, same spec as 16s but more valuable. Some of the more valuable D port castings for restorations.
@@jordan-ramblinaround2323 Yea for stock rebuild stuff but when it comes to porting for power 48s are not the ticket, or was my understanding from SD Performance when I was trying to find heads for my pickup. Granted D ports over all are not the ticket anymore as you know. What are your plans for this motor? Honestly I would love to see somebody try out the Chinese aluminum heads and see how they like them or something different like that
@@jeremydale7263 I mean they are the same as 16s, 13s, anything you can do to 16s porting, or valve wise, you can do to 48s. This one will probably get a stock rebuild with a mild cam upgrade. I have 3 pair of big valve 16s if these don't clean up, and two 400 rotating assemblies, plus a 70' 400 block. I should be able to come up with SOMETHING decent for it. But nothing like the ported E headed 461 in the other car. i just want it to run and drive again. I can beef up the drive train over time. Haven't looked into the chinese heads much, I've seen them, but for what they are they still seem pretty expensive. Too close to the name brand price imo.
@@jordan-ramblinaround2323 If you ever come out to the Black Hills for the rally or any reason you will have to look me up. It would make a cool video with your 68 auto 461 against my 69 manual 428!
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