Someone in the room wants to read a poem that Dylan doesn't want to hear . To break up the tension in the room Donovan sings a song for those who feel upset . Dylan tells Donovan "that's a good song man!" Donovan succeeds in changing the mood in the room and inspires Dylan to sing a song. Donovan- peace maker then , now and for ever
@@williamscott7835 no but wanted to "turn him on" to some writing I guess....and Dylan alreadyknew the poet and wasn't interested. People are pushy with stars, because they want it to rub off on them...
It’s actually a little deeper than that. Dominic Behan despised Bob Dylan because Bob Dylan ripped off his patriots song to make cap with God on Our Side. So when Dylan asked if there were any poets, like Allen Ginsberg, and they replied Dominic Behan, it was like a backhanded slap. One of the subtleties that you might not catch unless you think about the relationships at the time.
Watch the entire "Don't Look Back" movie and you will see that Dylan's presence on the stage, his singing and guitar and harmonics playing were absolutely spellbinding.
Yeah. He was on a different plane in this era. In fact from 1962 to 1976 he was like a big, juicy, green bogey - he just couldn’t be licked! 🤣🤣 Okay, gross joke! But it’s also true - no one could touch him.
***** update: felt the need to comment again because I literally watch this video once every week at least for the last 6 months or so... my two favourite musicians:) Dylan is a literary genius, I feel like he's promoted me to think more intrinsically while Donovan is just so fkn catchy
+Dan Corcoran i much prefer Phil Ochs to Dylan. Dylan once said he couldn't keep up with Ochs, he was on another level. the thing is Ochs was a reporter so his music is very politically charged.
+Dan Corcoran I was thinking the same thing before I read your comment. Leonard Cohen couldn't deny the strength of those lines! I love that Dylan listened to Donovan intently. Anyone notice that Dylan sounds exactly like Baretta?
Donovan with his simple light loving guitar, sweet voice, and then Dylan right over the top with his absolutely mindblowing stuff kills everyone.. so amazing both of them
Personally I have to salute donnovan for this, he was so young here compared to everyone else in the room and he knew he was outclassed by dylan but he still performed his song very well
I saw a program on this meeting, apparantly Dylan was condescending thinking he was a wannabe, gently mocking Donovan because he wore a similar trademark hat. In fact Donovan had been wearing it before he knew of Dylan. In the same program, one of Dylans aids had defended Donovan and said he was the better guitarist.
My parents gave me their extra copy of "Sunshine Superman" when I was 7 or 8. It changed my life. I love Donovan, he's really not anybody else, he's got a very unique thing. I love Dylan too, but hey, he's a folksinger, a bluesman, and music is like poetry. You borrow, you steal, you grab whatever fleeting thoughts escape from your own unconscious mind as fast as you can capture them and nail them to the floor of that piece of paper. That's what being an artist means, it's not about judging others (it happens, but it's not important) it's about trying with every molecule of yourself to tune in to the Universal Poem and express it as it comes to you.
Similarly I started going through my parents 45s when I was around 7 or 8, and Sunshine Superman was one of the most memorable of those. I have loved Donovan ever since. In a conversation with a fellow american recently, he mentioned that Donovan is not very well known in the states. Obviously he is not as well known as some, but it seemed a little strange to me that americans were not familiar with Donovan. Ultimately he is right though, and that reminded me just how far one can stray from mainstream thinking.
Donovan is just looking at Bob like "fuuuuck I wish I could write lyrics like that.." Bob schools Donovan in this video and I love it. The room is completely silent and in awe while Bob plays.. It feels completely different than when Donovan was playing and everyone was giggling.
I love that ballsy distinction of Dylan's, it shows confidence, ego and commitment. We've been so weaned on put-you-downs and flattery and false confidence and Simon Cowell's big red buzzer that we've almost forgotten our natural instincts to sing and enjoy songs without being a star. Its not about the star its about the song. Dylan here shows us that. We are, all of us, the paragon of animals, the beauty of the world.
I learned more real history from the music of my generation than was or is taught in our formal rooms of so called education ~ Speaks to the continued lies by omission~ Please~Teach Your Children~~
Why is everyone saying this is some psychological battle between Dylan and Donovan? Donovan played one of his new songs, not his best song to compete with Dylan. And Dylan played baby blue because Donovan requested it, not because he knew it was a brilliant song, so it would beat Donovan's song. Donovan, at this time, was a poor man's dylan; he knew this and accepted it. Dylan was his idol, and he certainly wasn't arrogant enough to try and compete with him. They're just a couple of musicians, playing to each other. Not rivals.
You underestimate Donovan's ego when you say that he accepted the role of 'poor man's Dylan'. He certainly did not. Very early on he cited the fact that he was developing his guitar style and songwriting on the road long before Dylan appeared. He said this to reject the very cloak you suggest he wore. Mr Leitch is very sure of his place in pop music history - taking credit for inspiring some of the Beatles' best output on The White Album. He would never acknowledge second place.
A lot of people are two faced nowadays... not saying there weren’t any back then, but not everyone was trying to appear “better” than others. Some just were enjoying the life they had while having fun (without competition, without cutting everything into “us vs. them” mentalities)
Okay, so maybe they're competing a little here, but I don't think we all need to pick a side and slam the other one in the comments. Can we just enjoy seeing them in the same room? Because I think that's pretty cool.
Yeah, if you listen carefully, when Donovan hands the guitar back to Bob at 2:15 he says, "I want to hear 'It's All Over Baby Blue." Bob says, "You wanna hear that song?" and Donovan says, "Yeah." So it's not Bob "sending a message" or whatever I've heard other people saying. Donovan wanted to hear Bob do a great song, and Bob obliged an admiring contemporary.
Kayla C. I actually don't think they are competing at all I think it's a figment of their imagination. Some of these viewers want to think they are competing.
Kayla C. Dylan had a reputation of being a dick quite often when he was young; but I don't see that here. Also, he looks completely stoned in the closeups when he's playing. :)
Say what you want but Donovans voice is pretty fucking beautiful and melodic. He can probably sing about anything and it will sound amazing. "siiiiitinnng in mcdonalds, i suddenly have to poo, as i make my way there, there is a stall for youuuu. as i make my way there, there is a stall for youuu."
In fairness Donovan asks Dylan to play it`s all over now baby blue as he likes it.You can tell Dylan likes Donovan as a person so he`s not giving him a hard time.
Someone in the room wanted to recite a poem that Dylan didn't want to hear. Donovan started singing to break the tension in the room . Dylan expressed his delight with the song and now no longer feeling annoyed sat there getting into Donovan's song. A song about a singer who sings for anyone in a negative frame of mind . Donovan succeded in getting Dylan to get into playing music and the room into a more harmonious state.
It's a jam man and they're both enjoying even sharing guitars both are peace loving men, both are folky, both play great acoustic sounds, both men are icons of the 1960's, both are great singer songwriters, I could go on love them xxx
That guy in the beginning was so proud of Donovan when Donovan was playing his song and when Dylan started playing, it was like he couldn't handle that Dylan was on another level. Like Donovan was good, but Dylan was great.
+misguh that's Derrol Adams. A top notch banjo player who traveled with Ramblin Jack Elliott. Derrol Adams was a mentor to Donovan, while Ramblin Jack was a mentor to Dylan. Interesting how that happened.
I'm in love with this video!!! two legends jammin out. now don't get me wrong I'm a Dylan fan but I always gravitated towards Donovan more. Donovan seems so humble here. love that guy
I remember nights like this. Trading songs around with friends. This was amazing. Before Dylan was the Prince of songwriting history. Just a fellow with a guitar trading songs.
Truth versus Fantasy while serendipity sings the blues. Mesmorizing magical mystery encounter with sharing and caring charm.I'm on my way to "My blue heaven".Thank you for this video cliip post which will become a historical moment in the musical continuum.Much love and blessings.
@@petemavus2948 Why? Psychedelic music is some of the best music that’s ever been made, post-acid Beatles are way better than they were before they went to India, Pink Floyds first two albums are also genius. Let’s face it, LSD makes musicians a lot better.
convenient huh? In 2008, Horace Engdahl, then the permanent secretary of the Academy, declared that "Europe still is the center of the literary world" and that "the US is too isolated, too insular. They don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature In 2009, Engdahl's replacement, Peter Englund, rejected this sentiment ("In most language areas ... there are authors that really deserve and could get the Nobel Prize and that goes for the United States and the Americas, as well,") and acknowledged the Eurocentric bias of the selections, saying that, "I think that is a problem. We tend to relate more easily to literature written in Europe and in the European tradition
This is an amazing piece of musical history - I didn't know this clip existed and am glad to have been able to witness it. Thank you to the poster. Poet vs poet - equal beauty from different voices and minds.
Look at Dylan's face when he says, "he understands your orphan with his gun" lol, he knows nobody understands what the fuck that means. I mean people will interpret it for generations and pretend they do.... but they don't. What an ass!!! I love him.
Dylan has said in an interview, that many of his lyrics are just something that just come to him and he doesn't know where they're from, but he writes them down. He seems like an honest, but serious kind of person.
Yonder stands your orphan with his gun--is possibly a metaphor for leaving a part of yourself that is resisting the change. You have created an orphan in what you left behind. Crying like the fire in the sun...is reference to the intense inner conflict. Profound change can come with excruciating pain despite the fact that you can't stop it.
Yeah, well, Dylan, as good as he was/is at putting it all together wrote tons of B.S. that didnt/doesn't mean much of anything. He picked words that rhymed and then worked backwards, linking them with intentionally obscure, silly nonsense that, at times, was extremely evocative. Reading much into Dylan's songs is a pointless endeavor. He is simply a clever wordsmith. Leave it at that. He does. He's also a jerk.
@@roxman78 Oh like "I'm a thinkin' an a wonderin' walking way down the road. I once loved a woman, a child I am told. I gave her my heart but she wanted my soul." And ""I ain't a sayin' you treated me unkind. You coulda done better but I don't mind. You just kinda wasted my precious time." I agree with Joan Baez that Dylan could be a jerk but he still could write.
i think both artists are amazing. I don't understand is why everyones comparing the two. there both different to each other. Cant you just listen to both of them and enjoy i.t just listen and not having to think who's better or who's worse.
yes dylan was often rude and abrasive, but the reality is that Donovan adored and worshiped Dylan (as did the Byrds). They were all good, awesome, and important in my life.
Wow, it feels scary commenting on this, like walking on a tightrope, such is the wealth of raw talent in this little room. And at at the time such as this, the birth of 60's folk poets. People, stop comparing, at least on this, Donovans song is sweet and melodic, Dylans harsh and bitter, a great contrast. Both have admiration for eachother though I suspect Dylan is more than aware of his genious. To be able to capture this on film is also a work of genius. We are indeed blessed to witness it.
@J. Harris. Oh, spare me the sob rhetoric. There were no major wars at the time for them to fight in, were there? What would your choice have been at the time, peace and love, or series of idiotic, interminable, unwinnable wars against "godless communism"? And what did they have handed to them? If it was so good, why would they reject it? Jealousy and resentment don't fit well on you, pal.
Donovan wasn't a useless copy. He is also a singular talent. His music was very different in many ways. For one thing, he was from Glasgow and Dyland was from Hibbing and New York. Donovan did gain some early success though because the press painted him as "the English Dylan" even though he was from Scotland. I saw them both in person at Newport, same festival almost 50 years ago. With my eyes. Didn't see any hate. There was some competition. Far from hate. Don't malign these men please.
Just Six months later Donovan was writing Epic songs such as Sunny Goodge St, Jersey Thursday, Lullaby of Spring..shame this is how so many ONLY remember him
Donovan was freaking amazing. He taught most of what the Beatles know about their picking and chord structures and is responsible for influencing the White Album. Insulting Donavon when the Beatles, Dylan, Crosby, Still & Nash and many more loved and revered him. My first thought is it must have been like to sit on the couch while they are both in the room. If get a chance the best Donavon song that is incredible is Sand & Foam.
Dylan is America's greatest lyricist and at this point Donovan wanted to be Dylan...but he did go on to write some great psych music when he found his own style....Hurdy Gurdy Man is one fine piece of music imho.....
It is a pitty you look at such a thing and see a compatition between Dylan and Donovan. I thoght listeners of this kind of music was peacefull people :(
A fragile point in time caught and given a place in a cultural continuum … captured for posterity to behold forever….. the cinematographer is part of an act by which this meeting and exchange of art between the peoples balladeers becomes immortal. Bravo.
For anyone who's trying to learn this song from this video. Donovan is actually playing on a guitar that has all the strings tuned down one step. Just so you know.
Imagine playing your own song to Dylan, and have him say "Hey that's a good song, man!" Jesus. I wouldn't know what to do with myself, with something so amazing like that.
Donovan and Dylan influenced and had major input on the best band of all time- the Beatles. If it wasn't for these 2 amazing artists we would not have the Beatles as we know them today and basically everything from Revolver on.
77ADK You are wrong. They were clearly influenced by Dylan. Lennon was so overwhelmed by Subterranean Homesick Blues that he said he didn't think he'd ever write anything that could compete with it. And Dylan got them onto weed, which obviously had a big influence on them: www.beatlesbible.com/1964/08/28/bob-dylan-turns-the-beatles-on-to-cannabis/
77ADK sorry 77ADK- but you might want to brush up on your music history. It's very well documented that Dylan had many conversations with Lennon about his song writing and drugs. Lennon has even said that Dylan influenced him and the beatles about saying something within their songs. Not to mention Donovan's influence on George when Donovan and the beatles went to India to study with the maharishi. The beatles are the best band ever but they definitely embraced and were influenced by their surroundings of this amazing rock time period.
You watch things like this and it makes you realise songs sometimes come from the heart and flow like water and not necessarily from sitting with a pen, some paper and a guitar but just let it flow out and in there is a song.
I think it's lovely once donovan gets into his groove, dylan sits back in a chair, sits still and gives full attention to donovan's singing; no chatting, not looking around at all the other people/ maybe those folks are instrumentalists or journalists or musical personnel or personal friends.
At 2:15 Donovan clearly says, "I want to hear 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue'" as he hands the guitar off to Dylan. He's playing a request FOR Donovan. Characterizing this as Dylan destroying Donovan or proving a point to him is fundamentally misunderstanding the interaction.
Imagine dylan sitting there attentively, watching you play an original.
I'd shit myself
Donovan was friend with The Beatles, so I don't think that he was nervous or something
amilkar the Beatles got nervous around Dylan. So why wouldn’t Donovan?
Imagine writing a song about being a singer singing a song and thinking that crap should be played in front of a great songwriter.
Then seeing him smiling saying “hey that’s a good song man!”
Someone in the room wants to read a poem that Dylan doesn't want to hear . To break up the tension in the room Donovan sings a song for those who feel upset . Dylan tells Donovan "that's a good song man!" Donovan succeeds in changing the mood in the room and inspires Dylan to sing a song. Donovan- peace maker then , now and for ever
I fact Donovan turn aut to be a better man in real life.
Rewatch it the dude didn't want to read anything...
@@williamscott7835 no but wanted to "turn him on" to some writing I guess....and Dylan alreadyknew the poet and wasn't interested. People are pushy with stars, because they want it to rub off on them...
It’s actually a little deeper than that. Dominic Behan despised Bob Dylan because Bob Dylan ripped off his patriots song to make cap with God on Our Side. So when Dylan asked if there were any poets, like Allen Ginsberg, and they replied Dominic Behan, it was like a backhanded slap. One of the subtleties that you might not catch unless you think about the relationships at the time.
@@727jk Thanks for the info!
Here's Behan's song. A comment says it's traditional Irish melody.
th-cam.com/video/N6K1ECpdPws/w-d-xo.html
its amazing that we can watch this so easily on the internet, so many years later
Truly a piece of music history. We are fortunate to have had this performance recorded, and shared here.
Amazing! We are so fortunate to have this performance recorded!
You can see Dylan’s love for words and lyrics as he sings. His facial expressions. The wordplay. He enjoys the hell out of singing that song.
Watch the entire "Don't Look Back" movie and you will see that Dylan's presence on the stage, his singing and guitar and harmonics playing were absolutely spellbinding.
Yeah. He was on a different plane in this era. In fact from 1962 to 1976 he was like a big, juicy, green bogey - he just couldn’t be licked! 🤣🤣
Okay, gross joke! But it’s also true - no one could touch him.
"yonder stands your orphan with a gun,
crying like a fire in the sun"
What a fucking amazing lyric
Without a doubt buddy
***** His smile when he drops that line. I just wanna kiss him
***** update: felt the need to comment again because I literally watch this video once every week at least for the last 6 months or so... my two favourite musicians:)
Dylan is a literary genius, I feel like he's promoted me to think more intrinsically while Donovan is just so fkn catchy
+Dan Corcoran i much prefer Phil Ochs to Dylan. Dylan once said he couldn't keep up with Ochs, he was on another level. the thing is Ochs was a reporter so his music is very politically charged.
+Dan Corcoran
I was thinking the same thing before I read your comment. Leonard Cohen couldn't deny the strength of those lines! I love that Dylan listened to Donovan intently. Anyone notice that Dylan sounds exactly like Baretta?
Donovan with his simple light loving guitar, sweet voice, and then Dylan right over the top with his absolutely mindblowing stuff kills everyone.. so amazing both of them
Donovan sings to the heart and Bob sings the mind. Donovan makes me feel good and Bob fires me up. Ying and Yang.
"Yin" and yang....
Donovan sings through the mouth... Dylan through the nose
StoneCole no no no Bob sings for the mind and van the man sings for the heart
StoneCole Donovan is dull and Dylan is king. That is all.
JTZ: That is all! Donovan is a puff and Dylan is a volcano!
Personally I have to salute donnovan for this, he was so young here compared to everyone else in the room and he knew he was outclassed by dylan but he still performed his song very well
i thought so too, really brave and sassy of him
I saw a program on this meeting, apparantly Dylan was condescending thinking he was a wannabe, gently mocking Donovan because he wore a similar trademark hat. In fact Donovan had been wearing it before he knew of Dylan. In the same program, one of Dylans aids had defended Donovan and said he was the better guitarist.
@@keithellerby2829 That's funny. Dylan was known primarily for his guitar work, which is why people tolerated his gobbledygook lyrics
@@rosshewage6893 So the documentary maker doctored the footage? I relate the evidence as seen.
@@keithellerby2829 Yet my sarcasm slipped by undetected...
Hahahaha, what's with all these comments smashing Donovan? Donovan is amazing AND asks Dylan to play this song. Stop picking sides and enjoy.
I have always loved both, Dylan the great song writer and Donovan the better singer !
I totally agree, Diana.
right on!
yep..
Clark Tisdale I ignore haters.
My parents gave me their extra copy of "Sunshine Superman" when I was 7 or 8. It changed my life. I love Donovan, he's really not anybody else, he's got a very unique thing. I love Dylan too, but hey, he's a folksinger, a bluesman, and music is like poetry. You borrow, you steal, you grab whatever fleeting thoughts escape from your own unconscious mind as fast as you can capture them and nail them to the floor of that piece of paper. That's what being an artist means, it's not about judging others (it happens, but it's not important) it's about trying with every molecule of yourself to tune in to the Universal Poem and express it as it comes to you.
Lovely way to describe this unbelievable moment in time ✌️✌️✌️
Yes, Tuning in with every molecule of yourself to the Universal poem.
Similarly I started going through my parents 45s when I was around 7 or 8, and Sunshine Superman was one of the most memorable of those. I have loved Donovan ever since. In a conversation with a fellow american recently, he mentioned that Donovan is not very well known in the states. Obviously he is not as well known as some, but it seemed a little strange to me that americans were not familiar with Donovan. Ultimately he is right though, and that reminded me just how far one can stray from mainstream thinking.
"Celeste" is truly miraculous!
great album. i still rock "the trip" when i drink here and there lol
Donovan is just looking at Bob like "fuuuuck I wish I could write lyrics like that.."
Bob schools Donovan in this video and I love it. The room is completely silent and in awe while Bob plays.. It feels completely different than when Donovan was playing and everyone was giggling.
The shot of Donovan watching and the look of realization that Bob took song writing to a whole other level.
Of course --- Donovan was living in the turnip patch so he couldn't have heard any Dylan music.
@Papercop Why is it "making it a contest" to say that Donovan could appreciate Dylan's genius? Seems like a credit to both men.
Donovan specifically asked Dylan to play Baby Blue though
I love that ballsy distinction of Dylan's, it shows confidence, ego and commitment. We've been so weaned on put-you-downs and flattery and false confidence and Simon Cowell's big red buzzer that we've almost forgotten our natural instincts to sing and enjoy songs without being a star. Its not about the star its about the song. Dylan here shows us that. We are, all of us, the paragon of animals, the beauty of the world.
You mean Donovan shows us that, malonic voice and superb guitar playing.
I learned more real history from the music of my generation than was or is taught in our formal rooms of so called education ~
Speaks to the continued lies by omission~
Please~Teach Your Children~~
Who the hell would dislike this priceless video?
A devil, i loved rap but even this is something special
Keoni Page Shut the hell up. I’m a Donovan fan and I like this video, so you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
Both amazing songwriters. I think its a shame Donovan didn't get more recognition
A million arguments of Bob showing Donovan up... Donovan requested baby blue... jeez. its a jam. two lads and a guitar to share. get over it.
its the best moment EVER! wish i was a fly on the wall.
Well said, its enjoyment and creating, its music :)
Donovan its psychedelic
Dylan was and is a giant in his own mind.
@@brieneaton8578 and a rabbit in his own hat
Why is everyone saying this is some psychological battle between Dylan and Donovan?
Donovan played one of his new songs, not his best song to compete with Dylan.
And Dylan played baby blue because Donovan requested it, not because he knew it was a brilliant song, so it would beat Donovan's song.
Donovan, at this time, was a poor man's dylan; he knew this and accepted it. Dylan was his idol, and he certainly wasn't arrogant enough to try and compete with him.
They're just a couple of musicians, playing to each other. Not rivals.
You underestimate Donovan's ego when you say that he accepted the role of 'poor man's Dylan'. He certainly did not. Very early on he cited the fact that he was developing his guitar style and songwriting on the road long before Dylan appeared. He said this to reject the very cloak you suggest he wore. Mr Leitch is very sure of his place in pop music history - taking credit for inspiring some of the Beatles' best output on The White Album. He would never acknowledge second place.
A lot of people are two faced nowadays... not saying there weren’t any back then, but not everyone was trying to appear “better” than others. Some just were enjoying the life they had while having fun (without competition, without cutting everything into “us vs. them” mentalities)
CGBalla1014 Bullshit, no cohort was ever as obsessed with image, and competitive about it, as the boomers.
Apples and oranges.
Tim Doherty I resent that comment. You have no idea about boomers. We don’t all think alike anyway.
he's like "let's get together and I'll turn you onto some things" and bob is like "....OK" cracks me up so bad
I love when he almost starts laughing. It makes me smile every time I watch it.
An epic moment☺☺It;s the moment bob realises he just won the prize!!
Okay, so maybe they're competing a little here, but I don't think we all need to pick a side and slam the other one in the comments. Can we just enjoy seeing them in the same room? Because I think that's pretty cool.
Not only that, I saw love in their eyes. Love for the moment.
Yeah, if you listen carefully, when Donovan hands the guitar back to Bob at 2:15 he says, "I want to hear 'It's All Over Baby Blue." Bob says, "You wanna hear that song?" and Donovan says, "Yeah." So it's not Bob "sending a message" or whatever I've heard other people saying. Donovan wanted to hear Bob do a great song, and Bob obliged an admiring contemporary.
Kayla C. I actually don't think they are competing at all I think it's a figment of their imagination. Some of these viewers want to think they are competing.
Kayla C. Dylan had a reputation of being a dick quite often when he was young; but I don't see that here. Also, he looks completely stoned in the closeups when he's playing. :)
NorthWriter If you listen to Abbey Road backwards you can distinctly hear ....Paul is dead...
I LOVE this! Two great artists feeding off each other. BEAUTIFUL
Say what you want but Donovans voice is pretty fucking beautiful and melodic. He can probably sing about anything and it will sound amazing. "siiiiitinnng in mcdonalds, i suddenly have to poo, as i make my way there, there is a stall for youuuu. as i make my way there, there is a stall for youuu."
hahaha very true
Donovan actually has a song about pooping. It is called the intergalactic laxative. and it's pretty funny.
PVZM donavan is pretty damn awesome
OH I know. He is one of my favs.
Honestly he could 😂😂😂
In fairness Donovan asks Dylan to play it`s all over now baby blue as he likes it.You can tell Dylan likes Donovan as a person so he`s not giving him a hard time.
Someone in the room wanted to recite a poem that Dylan didn't want to hear. Donovan started singing to break the tension in the room . Dylan expressed his delight with the song and now no longer feeling annoyed sat there getting into Donovan's song. A song about a singer who sings for anyone in a negative frame of mind . Donovan succeded in getting Dylan to get into playing music and the room into a more harmonious state.
2 of my favourite folk musicians playing and hanging out together in 1 room
It's brilliant to see
It's a jam man and they're both enjoying even sharing guitars both are peace loving men, both are folky, both play great acoustic sounds, both men are icons of the 1960's, both are great singer songwriters, I could go on love them xxx
Two greats in the same room taking turns. Both enjoying the others playing and singing. I like it Very Cool
Donovan is and had been one of my favorites...a poet....Donovan is a real trovatour...for a French expression
That guy in the beginning was so proud of Donovan when Donovan was playing his song and when Dylan started playing, it was like he couldn't handle that Dylan was on another level. Like Donovan was good, but Dylan was great.
+misguh that's Derrol Adams. A top notch banjo player who traveled with Ramblin Jack Elliott. Derrol Adams was a mentor to Donovan, while Ramblin Jack was a mentor to Dylan. Interesting how that happened.
+John's Kite Thanks man, i didn't knew that. He thought he was just some dude. Now i have to look him up! thanks
I'm in love with this video!!! two legends jammin out. now don't get me wrong I'm a Dylan fan but I always gravitated towards Donovan more. Donovan seems so humble here. love that guy
Donovan is so unique. So original and so easy yet to connect to his music.
We had the absolute thrill of seeing Donovan a few years ago in Donegal. He sang all his songs for us, and, as I said, it was a pure thrill.
I remember nights like this. Trading songs around with friends. This was amazing. Before Dylan was the Prince of songwriting history. Just a fellow with a guitar trading songs.
They still do it down in Mexico .
Truth versus Fantasy while serendipity sings the blues. Mesmorizing magical mystery encounter with sharing and caring charm.I'm on my way to "My blue heaven".Thank you for this video cliip post which will become a historical moment in the musical continuum.Much love and blessings.
Donovan was a better guitarist. Introduced psychedelic music to the world. A genius
heart n singer writer
I would think "psychedelic music" might diminish Donovan's seemingly simple, poetic, musical genius for many.
@@petemavus2948 Why? Psychedelic music is some of the best music that’s ever been made, post-acid Beatles are way better than they were before they went to India, Pink Floyds first two albums are also genius. Let’s face it, LSD makes musicians a lot better.
Dylan introduced psychedelic music to the world?! What are you smoking?
@@stefanschleps8758 He meant Donovan introduced psychedelic music to the world. Don was part of the earliest psychedelic scene.
Man. what a cool video by the top American & British folk singers. Priceless!!
hey that's a good song man.
Congratulations to Bob Dylan for winning the Nobel Prize For Literature!
convenient huh?
In 2008, Horace Engdahl, then the permanent secretary of the Academy, declared that "Europe still is the center of the literary world" and that "the US is too isolated, too insular. They don't translate enough and don't really participate in the big dialogue of literature
In 2009, Engdahl's replacement, Peter Englund, rejected this sentiment ("In most language areas ... there are authors that really deserve and could get the Nobel Prize and that goes for the United States and the Americas, as well,") and acknowledged the Eurocentric bias of the selections, saying that, "I think that is a problem. We tend to relate more easily to literature written in Europe and in the European tradition
This is an amazing piece of musical history - I didn't know this clip existed and am glad to have been able to witness it. Thank you to the poster. Poet vs poet - equal beauty from different voices and minds.
Cant stop smile when Bob takes the guitar and start to sing and when ge give his old friend a mysterious glance. Both are very talented
I saw Donovan in the early 70s - really excellent concert. Very different artists.
excellent! reminds me of my youth! just beautiful! thank you for taking me back to the long lost days of yesteryear...
A probably rare moment of two great musicians. Enjoyable for that alone.
Donovan and Bob Dylan are both legends.
Look at Dylan's face when he says, "he understands your orphan with his gun" lol, he knows nobody understands what the fuck that means. I mean people will interpret it for generations and pretend they do.... but they don't. What an ass!!! I love him.
Bob knows its meaningless too.. it just rhymes and sounds good.
Dylan has said in an interview, that many of his lyrics are just something that just come to him and he doesn't know where they're from, but he writes them down. He seems like an honest, but serious kind of person.
Yonder stands your orphan with his gun--is possibly a metaphor for leaving a part of yourself that is resisting the change. You have created an orphan in what you left behind.
Crying like the fire in the sun...is reference to the intense inner conflict. Profound change can come with excruciating pain despite the fact that you can't stop it.
Yeah, well, Dylan, as good as he was/is at putting it all together wrote tons of B.S. that didnt/doesn't mean much of anything. He picked words that rhymed and then worked backwards, linking them with intentionally obscure, silly nonsense that, at times, was extremely evocative.
Reading much into Dylan's songs is a pointless endeavor.
He is simply a clever wordsmith.
Leave it at that. He does.
He's also a jerk.
@@roxman78 Oh like
"I'm a thinkin' an a wonderin' walking way down the road.
I once loved a woman, a child I am told.
I gave her my heart but she wanted my soul."
And
""I ain't a sayin' you treated me unkind.
You coulda done better but I don't mind.
You just kinda wasted my precious time."
I agree with Joan Baez that Dylan could be a jerk but he still could write.
i think both artists are amazing. I don't understand is why everyones comparing the two. there both different to each other. Cant you just listen to both of them and enjoy i.t just listen and not having to think who's better or who's worse.
yes dylan was often rude and abrasive, but the reality is that Donovan adored and worshiped Dylan (as did the Byrds). They were all good, awesome, and important in my life.
How f_____g great is it that this was captured on film!
Two of the best singer-songwriters of any music, let alone rock and folk. This video is fantastic!!!
Wow, it feels scary commenting on this, like walking on a tightrope, such is the wealth of raw talent in this little room. And at at the time such as this, the birth of 60's folk poets. People, stop comparing, at least on this, Donovans song is sweet and melodic, Dylans harsh and bitter, a great contrast. Both have admiration for eachother though I suspect Dylan is more than aware of his genious. To be able to capture this on film is also a work of genius. We are indeed blessed to witness it.
Priceless moment. Eat your hearts out, all you who weren't part of this generation!
@J. Harris. Oh, spare me the sob rhetoric. There were no major wars at the time for them to fight in, were there? What would your choice have been at the time, peace and love, or series of idiotic, interminable, unwinnable wars against "godless communism"? And what did they have handed to them? If it was so good, why would they reject it? Jealousy and resentment don't fit well on you, pal.
I've been coming back to this video for years now. There's something about this version of "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" that just resonates with me.
Awesome! i first heard this when i was twenty and now im sixty. its travelled with me my whole life.
Dylan & Donovan, two great singers together, what was the terrific moment !
A pair of great songwriters! I had the privilege, back in the stone age, to see them both in concert! A mystical experience at both shows!
Donovan wasn't a useless copy. He is also a singular talent. His music was very different in many ways. For one thing, he was from Glasgow and Dyland was from Hibbing and New York. Donovan did gain some early success though because the press painted him as "the English Dylan" even though he was from Scotland. I saw them both in person at Newport, same festival almost 50 years ago. With my eyes. Didn't see any hate.
There was some competition. Far from hate. Don't malign these men please.
You have to listen to Donovan on lsd....life changing
Just Six months later Donovan was writing Epic songs such as Sunny Goodge St, Jersey Thursday, Lullaby of Spring..shame this is how so many ONLY remember him
Donovan was freaking amazing. He taught most of what the Beatles know about their picking and chord structures and is responsible for influencing the White Album. Insulting Donavon when the Beatles, Dylan, Crosby, Still & Nash and many more loved and revered him. My first thought is it must have been like to sit on the couch while they are both in the room. If get a chance the best Donavon song that is incredible is Sand & Foam.
Dylan is America's greatest lyricist and at this point Donovan wanted to be Dylan...but he did go on to write some great psych music when he found his own style....Hurdy Gurdy Man is one fine piece of music imho.....
It is a pitty you look at such a thing and see a compatition between Dylan and Donovan. I thoght listeners of this kind of music was peacefull people :(
You've obviously never heard of the intense rivalries of the Greenwich Village folk scene.
That is wonderfully naive..."Stay gold, Ponyboy!"
Its an industry. 😥 Not really much artistry left.
Thank you so much for this video. What a time it was two of the greats. Woody would be proud.
They were BOTH brilliant in their own right.
A fragile point in time caught and given a place in a cultural continuum … captured for posterity to behold forever….. the cinematographer is part of an act by which this meeting and exchange of art between the peoples balladeers becomes immortal. Bravo.
Priceless footage
Two of the finest songwriter troubadours of their generation - what's not to like in seeing genius in action ?
there's so much talent in this clip, fuck it's amazing 🖤
Two incredibly gifted and natural talents at such a young age. Lucky us.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of that hotel room at that exact point in time.
A stoned face fly, stuck in the haze of time.
Agreed - that hotel had some pretty tasty walls back then
For anyone who's trying to learn this song from this video. Donovan is actually playing on a guitar that has all the strings tuned down one step. Just so you know.
the 2 greatest lyricalists of all time.
These are by far the greatest folk singers of our generation. Timeless music. Ultra cool MEN~~~~
Excuse me. What about Peter, Paul and Mary?? My favorite.
This video makes me so happy
Dylan's songs are so deep that he even amused himself with the 'orphan with a gun' line here as he sung it.
Donovan is the only man that made Bob Dylan worry! This footage is a magical moment in History! Two greats together!
agree with masie*******
That is cause Donovan COULD actually sing !!! LOL ; )
+Matsie Smith
+Matsie Smith just cause he never considered Phil Ochs but he was the real other side of Dylan
canaleSituazionista You have made me listen to Phil Ochs for the very 1st time. Thank you! Two separate talents that should not be compared!
+Matsie Smith in fact It wasn't a comparison
Donavan is mostly forgotten by today's generation but was a great artist and songwriter to you youngins check him out
"Hey, that's a good song, man"
To be in that room with him..a young beautiful dylan.... oh my. What a charismatic brilliant man. HOT crush on beautiful baby blue Dylan!!!
Bob Dylan is actually impressed by Donovan..."Hey, that's a good song, man!" Minutes 0:59 to 1:00.
he was patronizing.
@@gumball3049 How do you know that? You're just assuming something you want to believe of a man you're not much fond of.
Vincent Chavez So, you’re assuming I’m not fond of someone?
@@gumball3049 Your negative comment says it all, I don't have to assume.
@@vincentchavez2198 as you said, the video says it all. that's how i know.
Imagine playing your own song to Dylan, and have him say "Hey that's a good song, man!" Jesus. I wouldn't know what to do with myself, with something so amazing like that.
Donovan and Dylan influenced and had major input on the best band of all time- the Beatles. If it wasn't for these 2 amazing artists we would not have the Beatles as we know them today and basically everything from Revolver on.
Sorry, Beatles were not influenced by them. I like both of them, but Beatles were influenced by a whole other genre (s).
77ADK You are wrong. They were clearly influenced by Dylan. Lennon was so overwhelmed by Subterranean Homesick Blues that he said he didn't think he'd ever write anything that could compete with it. And Dylan got them onto weed, which obviously had a big influence on them: www.beatlesbible.com/1964/08/28/bob-dylan-turns-the-beatles-on-to-cannabis/
Best band, maybe some people agree, but not in the same league as Dylan himself as songwriters.
77ADK
sorry 77ADK- but you might want to brush up on your music history. It's very well documented that Dylan had many conversations with Lennon about his song writing and drugs. Lennon has even said that Dylan influenced him and the beatles about saying something within their songs.
Not to mention Donovan's influence on George when Donovan and the beatles went to India to study with the maharishi. The beatles are the best band ever but they definitely embraced and were influenced by their surroundings of this amazing rock time period.
Tyrone Slothrop
Pah! Anyone who puts forward the idea that Dylan is in a superior league compared to Lennon/McCartney is clueless about music.
You watch things like this and it makes you realise songs sometimes come from the heart and flow like water and not necessarily from sitting with a pen, some paper and a guitar but just let it flow out and in there is a song.
thats what musicians do is switch off . very well done by both . thats one of my favorite Dylan songs
thank you Donovan! love this song
always here when sad
It's like , hey son give me the guitar , sit down and learn
Donovan is a better singer and a better musician, I completely agree with you.
Great video! Love both of their music, but still listen to Donovan.
3:35 when you realize you're a fan, not a competitor
they years have gone by so fast they are 2 of my favorites it seems like just a few years ago .
Donovan taught the Beatles how to fingerpick.
I think it's lovely once donovan gets into his groove, dylan sits back in a chair, sits still and gives full attention to donovan's singing; no chatting, not looking around at all the other people/ maybe those folks are instrumentalists or journalists or musical personnel or personal friends.
Dylan for lyrics, Donovan for spirituality...
Perfect. :)
definitely
Not too unfair comment
busstopbilly ...as shallow as a soap dish?
I love Donovan and this song is great and Hurdy Gurdy man is a collection I can listen to every day over and over again...lol
I'm twenty-six and I love Bob. hahaha
What I would do to be in that room. AH, oosh
+Buck Shot I am 77 and love them both but it brings back such beautiful times that I can hardly bear it.
+Marilyn Dallas I'm seventeen and I love his music too, very funny to see that age doesn't matter!
+Carmen Schwering im 12 and its one of my favorite songs!
I am 25 and same...👍👌😬
+Buck Shot I'm only 4 1/2 years old and I love Bob more than the rest of you combined! I win! lol
The greatest poet troubadours of our time!
At 2:15 Donovan clearly says, "I want to hear 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue'" as he hands the guitar off to Dylan. He's playing a request FOR Donovan. Characterizing this as Dylan destroying Donovan or proving a point to him is fundamentally misunderstanding the interaction.
Donovan sang his song...Dylan was impressed...a meeting of two greats...
There's times in that song where Donovan almost seems like he sounds like Dylan.
I was thinking that too. I am not familiar with too many Dylan songs and i thought Donovan was covering one.
I'm a Donovan and Bob Dylan fan, and to me this possibly the best video on in the internet.