@@wrinklefosil haha none of the above 😁 he was also in a band called Zenna for a while. An odd little troupe, though perhaps not as odd as some of his other projects
@@geomcc109 so would I. And I used to be in a band with him, he's a good friend and was capable of so much more than people realised. Amazing metal drummer as well, amazing double kick work
@@gjustg1540 I can imagine. I remember being captivated by a monster double bass drum signia kit he had for a Rhythm mag shoot back in the late 90s haha
@@geomcc109 I still have that magazine somewhere, I bought everything he was in at the time as I was so proud of him. He was made up that the main cover shot was him and there was a tiny one of Dennis Chambers 😂 I remember the red signia well
I think "I'm so boring, my clothes wanna keep someone else warm, someone cooler" is one of the all time great lines. John Lennon would have loved that.
Had the privilege of seeing Mansun live at Warwick Uni around this time think they were half way through the tour so Uber tight &the first band I could honestly say sounded as good if not better than the CD WHAT A BAND! FUCK!
This was on my 16th birthday but I could only dream about seeing them live as I lived in a post-soviet european country. But this is raw PUNK in 1998. Amazing! I love you guys!!
I wish these guys would just smoke the peace pipe and reunite. Best band of that era, hands down-and Draper proving he's still got it (and even better) with his current solo work.
Draper and Rathbone may hook up again and do something in the future, but the other two have completely retired from music and have no interest in playing any more unfortunately. :(
@@gavinbuck8130 Yes l think they unfortunately did a lot a psychological damage to one another, which is a story that has not been properly told, and perhaps never will be. I believe Dominic turned himself to physical rehabilitation which is quite noble but a huge loss to the music world. Stove is unfindable on the internet, as is Andie which is another huge loss. That guy is an incredible fucking drummer. It is nice to finally have Paul back, Spooky Action is a great record but l have not been able to get into C.L.T as much except for the track done with Steven Wilson which is great. I would like to know the full story of what caused this incredible band to implode, to the point where it caused deep trauma to some or all of them... but on the other hand it would not do any of us any good to know. I am happy to have heard that Paul and Andie have apparently remained pals, or repaired their friendship. Regardless they should all be proud of giving a big two finger salute to everyone back in the day and produced, truly, one of the great records of all time. Six!
You are right, they did not have any "peers" at the time. I will put Six up against OK Computer any day...that was the bandwagon everyone decided to jump on. Not me. Six destroys anything in its way at the time.
It's never mentioned now, but I remember when this came out back in 98, XFM and the NME Saying it sounded like The Police. I'd say the first few seconds does.
Mansun were by far the best band of their era.. Oasis, Blur and Radiohead were crap compared to them. I got into Oasis and Blur before Mansun but when I heard Wide Open Space I said, "this is the best song I've ever heard." Then I heard attack of the grey lanter and their b-sides and said, "what an amazing band." I personally think Six was brought out to early and should have been their 6th or 7th album but even thoughh the public didn't get it, it actually went gold by reputation. AOTGL went platinum so Mansun were very successful and they did very well with singles in regards to getting into the top 10 and the top 20.
Agreed, Mansun were far more advanced than Radiohead and Oasis and even the lead singer of Radiohead Tom York said that Mansun's album Six was the best album that he's ever heard. So why did the NME criticize it so much then? There seemed to be a clear agenda against Mansun sadly.
I just found out about mansun recently, and as a blur fan and radiohead enjoyer I agree. I still have a very soft spot for blur, but artistically and musically these two mansun albums are just far superior than most if not any blur albums I think, even 13 that I loved so much. Shame the world wasn’t ready for such an act.
@@riskeys Well Blur brainwashed their fans with the simple lullabies first and then they did the prog stuff later. I never liked Blur much, but I did love Coffee and TV, Song 2 and Beatle Bum which were world class singles for me. My fav from Damon Albarn is both genius albums from his band "The Good the Bad and the Queen.." The Universal was another single that I thought was amazing. Status Quo started off with all that prog stuff and eventually the lead singer came to the conclusion that the public don't like complicated song structurs so he started putting out simple verse chorus verse nursery rhymes because that's what sells. Mansun were never going to be huge stars as Paul Draper was to much of a control freak and wanted to be remember as the genius that never made it huge. The rest of the band wanted to be stadium rock but Paul decided to destroy the band with the 2nd album which is genius. The third album has plenty of melodies but sounds like a very bland album from the 80's. Most of the 2nd album is based on the genius TV series from 1967 to 68 called the Prisoner. It's about a dictator government that controls everyone else and see's people as numbers. The album is also based on other themes but it was way to complicated for the public. ~But then again, the public accepted Radioheads paranoid android. My conclusion is that Mansun sounded to much like a retro 80s band and they even dressed like 80s stars and the public simply had moved on from that decade. Anytime you heard them on the radio you'd be forgiven if you had mistaken them for some 80s cover band. For me, Mansun would have been much more successful if they toured the sht out of America and the Asian market because the Americans would have been more accepting for their big loud sound.
@@riskeys There's a great band that came out after Mansun called "The Open" from Liverpool. They made to brilliant albums, namely "The Silent Hours and Statues. " They were kind of like an art rock band but the Brit Pop movement died out and people moved on to a different style of music. Basically they came off the tail end of Brit Pop whne guitar bands faded out. Every since then you have the shit music we hear today which I wouldn't even call music. I'ts more like the industry interfering with every album and putting out their idea of what albums should sound like. Anyway, The Open were the closest i could find to the Mansun sound.
Wow u guys are so nerd 🤣🤣🤣 I guess that’s what a mad band does, might not touch everyone but everyone touched became devotees lol I have been playing Six non stop for two weeks since last commenting in here and damn it is an absolute masterpiece, makes it hard to listen to anything else really even grey lantern that I love so much! I can accept not knowing Mansun in their prime, short-lived band seems a fair trade off for such amazing catalogue at least for me, and I feel I can understand with what u guys said about Draper’s mad ideas and all that… I mean, an intense crazy album like that, would be strange if there was no backlash among them. Even Draper seemed to predict it all in special/blown it I think. 😄
Yeah! Andie Rathbone never gets any recognition. Top drummer. And Six never gets its recognition either...one of the top albums of all time. Seriously. Fucking genius.
that drummer is a killer
this drummer is insane
Andie Rathbone ❤
Love how tight the entire band was. But Andie is the standout for me. A beast on the drums.
One of the most amazing pieces of music ever written mansun totally head of there time a reunion desperately needed
Come on guys - reunite for 2021?!
Rathbone such an underrated player, they are all awesome , but he commands such power n groove
Love this songs totally rocks instrumentally. Also make you think due to the clever lyrics. To this day. Never been a band like them RIP!
Drumming better than the album here. Stunning performance.
so much better! - that why live shows allways kicks ass :D
Andie was a truly world class drummer. I can say this with conviction as I was in his previous band
@@gjustg1540 Wait which band was this? The Wandering Quatrains, Jonti or The DNA Cowboys?
@@wrinklefosil haha none of the above 😁 he was also in a band called Zenna for a while. An odd little troupe, though perhaps not as odd as some of his other projects
@@gjustg1540 ah ok, very strange since that one’s not mentioned in the mansun wiki
They just didn't get you at the time. The depth of radiohead with the pleasant poppyness of blur.
They got me!
I want to cry it’s so perfect
Neither.
Radiohead came up with the changes in Paranoid Android when they heard Mansun practicing next door.
The drums here are off the charts! I never realized it was a 3 piece instrumentally before.
I'd put Rathbone as my favourite 'modern' drummer
@@geomcc109 so would I. And I used to be in a band with him, he's a good friend and was capable of so much more than people realised. Amazing metal drummer as well, amazing double kick work
@@gjustg1540 I can imagine. I remember being captivated by a monster double bass drum signia kit he had for a Rhythm mag shoot back in the late 90s haha
@@geomcc109 I still have that magazine somewhere, I bought everything he was in at the time as I was so proud of him. He was made up that the main cover shot was him and there was a tiny one of Dennis Chambers 😂 I remember the red signia well
One of the few ‘indie’ drummers who used a double kick in ‘indie’ music
I think "I'm so boring, my clothes wanna keep someone else warm, someone cooler" is one of the all time great lines. John Lennon would have loved that.
What a band
Thanks for the soundtrack of my life!
Swing those hips, Paul! ;D
So so underrated.
I remember when I stumbled upon six at best buy. It must've just came out and I had no clue the sonic amazement that was about to unleash on my ears!
Best album I've ever heard.
@@contesketchup2981 Amen! I have a shitload of albums and CDs but l literally play Six at least once a month. What an amazing work of art.
Had the privilege of seeing Mansun live at Warwick Uni around this time think they were half way through the tour so Uber tight &the first band I could honestly say sounded as good if not better than the CD WHAT A BAND! FUCK!
epic live song
What's crazy is that there's not footage for every song that appeared on the "Six" album because that was their greatest achievement music wise.
This was on my 16th birthday but I could only dream about seeing them live as I lived in a post-soviet european country. But this is raw PUNK in 1998. Amazing! I love you guys!!
How u get others to play what exact notes you saw seen is unbelievably amazingness ❤
Wow,27 years ago 😮,I saw live at the Astoria 🇬🇧🎶🎵
Qué maravilla. Que banda tan infravalorada.
I was at this gig. Bloody loved it.
Epic! Amazing performance
Hi. And this is amazing. And Thank You.
Powerful.
I wish these guys would just smoke the peace pipe and reunite. Best band of that era, hands down-and Draper proving he's still got it (and even better) with his current solo work.
Draper and Rathbone may hook up again and do something in the future, but the other two have completely retired from music and have no interest in playing any more unfortunately. :(
@@gavinbuck8130 Yes l think they unfortunately did a lot a psychological damage to one another, which is a story that has not been properly told, and perhaps never will be. I believe Dominic turned himself to physical rehabilitation which is quite noble but a huge loss to the music world. Stove is unfindable on the internet, as is Andie which is another huge loss. That guy is an incredible fucking drummer.
It is nice to finally have Paul back, Spooky Action is a great record but l have not been able to get into C.L.T as much except for the track done with Steven Wilson which is great.
I would like to know the full story of what caused this incredible band to implode, to the point where it caused deep trauma to some or all of them... but on the other hand it would not do any of us any good to know.
I am happy to have heard that Paul and Andie have apparently remained pals, or repaired their friendship.
Regardless they should all be proud of giving a big two finger salute to everyone back in the day and produced, truly, one of the great records of all time. Six!
I think I saw them round this time in Chester 98 and I was mind blown xx
i miss mansun
Fantastic ! Brings back memories of the Six tour !
Fucking sensational. How good - better than any of their so-called peers.
You are right, they did not have any "peers" at the time. I will put Six up against OK Computer any day...that was the bandwagon everyone decided to jump on. Not me. Six destroys anything in its way at the time.
MINDBLOWINGLY AWESOME.
It's never mentioned now, but I remember when this came out back in 98, XFM and the NME Saying it sounded like The Police. I'd say the first few seconds does.
アンディも最高だけど、チャド&ポールも最強❤
Brilliant band. Should have done more together.
Mansun were by far the best band of their era.. Oasis, Blur and Radiohead were crap compared to them. I got into Oasis and Blur before Mansun but when I heard Wide Open Space I said, "this is the best song I've ever heard." Then I heard attack of the grey lanter and their b-sides and said, "what an amazing band." I personally think Six was brought out to early and should have been their 6th or 7th album but even thoughh the public didn't get it, it actually went gold by reputation. AOTGL went platinum so Mansun were very successful and they did very well with singles in regards to getting into the top 10 and the top 20.
Agreed, Mansun were far more advanced than Radiohead and Oasis and even the lead singer of Radiohead Tom York said that Mansun's album Six was the best album that he's ever heard. So why did the NME criticize it so much then? There seemed to be a clear agenda against Mansun sadly.
I just found out about mansun recently, and as a blur fan and radiohead enjoyer I agree. I still have a very soft spot for blur, but artistically and musically these two mansun albums are just far superior than most if not any blur albums I think, even 13 that I loved so much. Shame the world wasn’t ready for such an act.
@@riskeys Well Blur brainwashed their fans with the simple lullabies first and then they did the prog stuff later. I never liked Blur much, but I did love Coffee and TV, Song 2 and Beatle Bum which were world class singles for me. My fav from Damon Albarn is both genius albums from his band "The Good the Bad and the Queen.." The Universal was another single that I thought was amazing.
Status Quo started off with all that prog stuff and eventually the lead singer came to the conclusion that the public don't like complicated song structurs so he started putting out simple verse chorus verse nursery rhymes because that's what sells.
Mansun were never going to be huge stars as Paul Draper was to much of a control freak and wanted to be remember as the genius that never made it huge.
The rest of the band wanted to be stadium rock but Paul decided to destroy the band with the 2nd album which is genius. The third album has plenty of melodies but sounds like a very bland album from the 80's. Most of the 2nd album is based on the genius TV series from 1967 to 68 called the Prisoner. It's about a dictator government that controls everyone else and see's people as numbers. The album is also based on other themes but it was way to complicated for the public. ~But then again, the public accepted Radioheads paranoid android.
My conclusion is that Mansun sounded to much like a retro 80s band and they even dressed like 80s stars and the public simply had moved on from that decade. Anytime you heard them on the radio you'd be forgiven if you had mistaken them for some 80s cover band. For me, Mansun would have been much more successful if they toured the sht out of America and the Asian market because the Americans would have been more accepting for their big loud sound.
@@riskeys There's a great band that came out after Mansun called "The Open" from Liverpool. They made to brilliant albums, namely "The Silent Hours and Statues. " They were kind of like an art rock band but the Brit Pop movement died out and people moved on to a different style of music. Basically they came off the tail end of Brit Pop whne guitar bands faded out. Every since then you have the shit music we hear today which I wouldn't even call music. I'ts more like the industry interfering with every album and putting out their idea of what albums should sound like. Anyway, The Open were the closest i could find to the Mansun sound.
Wow u guys are so nerd 🤣🤣🤣 I guess that’s what a mad band does, might not touch everyone but everyone touched became devotees lol I have been playing Six non stop for two weeks since last commenting in here and damn it is an absolute masterpiece, makes it hard to listen to anything else really even grey lantern that I love so much! I can accept not knowing Mansun in their prime, short-lived band seems a fair trade off for such amazing catalogue at least for me, and I feel I can understand with what u guys said about Draper’s mad ideas and all that… I mean, an intense crazy album like that, would be strange if there was no backlash among them. Even Draper seemed to predict it all in special/blown it I think. 😄
Yeah! Andie Rathbone never gets any recognition. Top drummer. And Six never gets its recognition either...one of the top albums of all time. Seriously. Fucking genius.
the only pureness left is preached by Marx
always reminded me of early police for some reason
Mate
SUK LEMON MMM SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Power Trio!