I have a Glock and I have a S&W M&P and for me it is the M&P all day every day. The Smith M&P line is underrated. Smith and Wesson is a firearms power house legend that got passed by Glock in the 80's and it's taken a while to answer Glock. The M&P line does it and more. It has suppressor height sights, an awesome redesigned stock flat face trigger you don't really have to replace, ergonomics just work, grip angle, and it's every bit as rock solid and durable as a Glock. M&P 2.0 for me.
@@ottoman5713 agreed, you can have the same brand and yet, sometimes if they are not all boxed together have different lots of ammo. The chemical mix usually consistent, but even with a good ammo manufacturer the occasional outlier this happens unfortunately.
@@terrarecon How Coincidence that both times what you just said it happened to the Smith not any other. makes me scratch my head. could it be possible that particular Gun is a somewhat Lemon from the factory?
M&P just does it right. May not be a "glock killer" for everyone but it was a clear choice over a glock for me personally. Sidenote: That Sig Aaron is carrying is beautiful 🔥
I don’t think it’s that underrated. I think the most underrated striker fired is the Beretta APX. I don’t know if it’s because the aftermarket didn’t take off or that it was ruined by TH-cam or something but I bought it for a pistol class so I could let my sister use the Glock. Was $300 and now my best shooter and it feels the most ergonomic. Mine is the centurion but I like the others too.
@@jasonstearns1044 I held one at the gun store and the trigger is just great. I was also looking at the shield ez performance center more for concealment.
From what I hear there were some issues with the Gen 1s. I know a few local agencies who complained but for those who got the Gen 2s, they love them. Personally, I haven't been issued a S&W as a duty gun so I don't have any experience with the M&P. I'd get one though.
They were using the same ammunition on these tests cause Smith twice had failure to eject and Kaya said it was the ammunition how could that be? above all tests on every gun reliability is paramount. that is why I will take the Glock no matter the sites not the trigger {not being the best} as long as it goes Bang each time I pull the trigger.
@@ottoman5713 There is a lot of unedited footage we were not shown, so you have to take them at face value if they say it was ammo related. I agree that they could have explained that better why they concluded it was ammo related. That part of the video demonstrates exactly why a break in is needed to vet out the pistol, mags, and its ammo preferences..
That's exactly what US DoD procurement says every time too: 7:47 "100% going to be serious and unbiased, w-we know Sig is going to win but I'm going to be unbiased..."
Sig and Glock are the only two handgun providers to the US federal and US MIL agencies. M&P never was fielded by any US federal LE nor any US military unit. SOCOM is buying both Glock and Sigs.
I aswell! But is it a duty gun? What I mean are there people out there using it as a duty gun? I own all of the guns they shot today and also PDP PRO SD COMPACT. THE PDP -F and I like them just as much if not more but I don’t believe it’s out there performing as a duty gun as of this point. I can say I like both the PDP SD COMPACT AND THE PDP-F better than all the guns they shot on this vid.
If you’re built like Gigantopithecus maybe you can control the 320. For those of us normal sized humans, the M&P and Glock fit the roll. I mean jeez that 320 didn’t even move.
The M&P is pretty good but the biggest underrated polymer frame pistol is the Beretta PX4 Storm. It’s got a really good trigger straight from the factory and it’s very accurate.
I think the 509 platform is the ideal LE choice: It has a heavier, duty style trigger so less chance of ND in stressful situations 24 round OEM back up mag Optic ready Great ergonomics Reputable manufacturer Pic rail Threaded barrel option I have about 5K rounds through my 509T and in its stock configuration have never had a malfunction- I barely clean or lube my pistols either
I have a P10F and I tried S&W M&P 9 Vitac on my local range and I thought initially that I like smith better but after one hour with both I decided that I stay with my p10f, need to try m&p 2.0. though
I know I lot of people complain Glock didn't change a lot of stock between each generation, but honestly, as a left-handed shooter, the gen 5 (glock 17) really deserves special mention especially if you compare with gen 3.
I agree about the Glocks. I have a Glock 19 and the original sights and trigger are not good. I would definitely recommend changing both of those after getting a Glock. After you change those 2 things it is an awesome pistol.
I EDC the subcompact version (12+1) of the M&p9 m2.0 and man I love it, it’s only a little bit bigger than the shield/shield plus but shoots like a full size and takes the 15, 17, and 23 m&p mags. It’s my main squeeze for sure.
I'm a firearms instructor for my small department and just speaking for myself not even my trainees...I love the M&P metal series. Low recoil, reliable and low bore axis which was big for me. I don't have a problem with other brands except sig can't deal with the 6" bore axis 😂
If you want to get shot by your duty pistol while still in it's holster get a sig. If you want a good duty pistol get a S&W, Glock, H&K, FN, CZ...Let the flame wars begin...
I didn't get a great look at the one he has but I have an Allign Tactical offset extended release & love it. They do offer a thumb rest aka gas pedal but personally I didn't like it but one from Sig/Gogun felt more natural
Also not sure if your running an optic I have a Forward Control Design & Tango Down colab plate which gives you the option to have backups if you want them but they also have regular plates
My latest purchase was for my girl and is a Smith & Wesson M & P Equalizer. Surprisingly, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! As far as what I own the most of.. Sig Sauer. Not sure how I managed this in all my years but I own only one Glock!! It's not that I don't like them, it's just worked out that way! I do love my Sig's and S&W's!!
@Rider-nb5ts I had it set out on the counter sitting next to others costing twice what it does. Thinking, "This S&W has NO BUSINESS racking this nicely!" However, though S&W have definitely stepped their game up, it's still a S&W trigger! Also, trying to keep in mind it racks so nice due to it stemming from the EZ lineup which is designed for weaker wrist (aka the ladies) and those with comprisedhand/wrist strength. When i bought it my intention was to give it to my a girl.. a liberal from NY that had never shot a gun but that didnt last and im happy with it. Comes with 10, 13 & 15 round mags. They're SUPER tight when fully loaded. Makes me nervous as an EDC and praying with more rounds I can fully trust it! Also going to try and stretch the spring. But, with an appendix carry, 15+1 should be MORE than enough!! I'll tell you what I'm switching to and I would recommend it over the Equalizer is the Sig Sauer P365 X-MACRO. On top of the slimmer profile, optic ready, and light rail you get 17+1 and, most importantly, a ported barrel! That's what I'd put that 550-ish towards!!
I started as a Sig fanboy who didn't want a Glock because they were "too mainstream", but let me tell you something, FN makes freaking amazing pistols.
I would have liked to see a Walther and CZ gun in the mix and see how that would have affected the rankings. Imma Sig guy all day long but the S&W looks and shoots pretty awesome. I barely saw any flip when Aaron was shooting it, seems like a damn accurate gun.
I’m not a 9mm fan, but I finally joined the club for my EDC in-town (stepped down from 10mm). I bought an FN509 Tactical, with the LAPD (think Apex😉) trigger. I run it AIWB either a sidecar and an RMR2 ADJ 3.25. The trigger was a little gritty feeling for a bit. Not sure where it changed but I’m now thousands of rounds into it, and I absolutely love it. I don’t mind the S&W but it isn’t my thing. I’d run the Sig and be comfortable, but I’ve got lots of experience shooting my wife’s Sigs so I’m familiar. Glocks are fairly reliable, affordable, mediocrity, period. FN brings SO much more value for the dollar spent. Most people gravitate towards “cheap” over other features.
Glad to finally see the FN 509 platform thrown into the mix but if you’re comparing police pistol models you should definitely try the LE version that comes with the flat face trigger
@@ClaytonF10 ya maybe they did not push that fact an did not cut it out so makes you think lol. I have the smith a never had a single issue with it ever. That being said not sure if I would take n e ones word 100% on any gun do your own research forsure.
People have been claiming this for about 15 years, yet not one single US LE agencies issues CZs to their officers, if they did, we would have heard about it by now.
What holosun is that ? Didnt think they had a holosun that would mount straight on an x5 slide. Another question does it have to have a special holster to use that take down pin/gas pedal?
Tango Down & Forward Control Design colab'd and honestly one of the better plates, both companies do make plates & accessories for the X5 but the colab plate does allow you to run BUIS. Though I don't think my optic would die but if it does I like having backups As for holsters depending on use few companies offer Holsters what he is running & I run a similar one is a Safariland(similar background so I know the controls or how it works though I did add an upgraded ALS Nub which is better) not sure if he did it himself or had someone do it but personally I bought mine through RDR Gear and they modified it you can get it wrapped as well in various colors & patterns though adds to lead time. The issue is Sig had an X5 Carry but slide & barrel were different sizes where the X5 Legion has a 5" barrel. Also if you plan to or are running optics which ever model you choose make sure it's RDS so I think I have a 6390 RDS though the light doesn't matter as long as it's either a Streamlight TLR-1 or Surefire X300 both fit same holster. Also I originally had an Allign Tactical thumb rest but didn't like it & have the Gogun Gas Pedal(which Sig actually sells) and I haven't had one issue with it snagging. Probably also worth mentioning I do also run an Allign Offset Extended Mag release as well & no issue with that either. Though I may buy a Halosun 507K in the future I currently run a Gen 1 SwampFox Justice w/ 3 MOA Green Dot(the Gen 2 SF decided to use a 6moa dot which is to big for my needs).
It's the greatest time to be a Smith and Wesson guy! That P320 the Sig glazer had holstered would only win if the competition was for pistols that double as grenades 😂
"It's the greatest time to be a Smith and Wesson guy." Man what a cult, especially considering there are more Glocks and Sig in US LE holsters and not a single first world military has ever fielded any single M&P product. What a statement, these Smith fans are at the delusional level probably still thinking one day the M&P will put Glock out of business.
I love the S&W MP series. Own several of them,including the M&P 2.0 competitor. I edc the competitor most of the time. It's a great shooting pistol,full metal,light,great sites, ergonomic fit is excellent and changeable, removable magwell,great recoil mitigation,optics ready,flashlight or laser ready and it looks good. I'm a big guy(6'8) with big hands. It's hard finding firearms that fit good in my hands,let alone fitting perfectly....but the M&P line hasn't let me down. Other full-sized pistols have felt like little toys in my hands to the point that they were uncomfortable.
S&W M&P 2.0 is number one. I have one that I used in a two day carbine & pistol course. Fired 800 rounds through it in the two days without a hitch. I've not fired the Sig or an FN, so I can't say anything about them. But, the military seems to have adapted to the Sig Sauer P320. There must be something to that. As for the Glock, I've shot Glocks since the late 80's when Gaston Glock first introduced the Glock 19 to the NYC Police Dept. It was a learning curve. And an even harder to teach cops who were used to shooting S&W M&P Model 10 Revolvers in .38 caliber with a 13 lbs. trigger. Since then I've owned the Glock Gen 3 and today the Glock 19 Gen 5, which is their best Glock in my humble opinion. But, I carry a S&W M&P Shield Plus today. Had to teach myself to shoot with red dot sights.
More agencies dropped the M&P than any other gun compared to Glocks or P320s. One of the biggest was Texas DPS because of reliability reasons. Mass. State Police were just fielding new M&P 2.0s and the batches that arrived had so many problems out of the box, the MSP is switching now to the Sig P320.
@@trentroberdeau1462 Lookup those agencies, figure it out instead of being in denial. If M&P are so good and "combat proven", give us two 1st-world military or special forces than use M&P products.
The s&w 2.0 trigger isn't my jam along with the glock. FN is my personal favorite, but the sig 320 if im going to be honest with my self is the best shooting pistol in the video
Just love it, get the Glock it's a good basic model. But spend this and this and this for better sights, trigger and what else.😂 Better fix, get a CZ P10 cheaper price and just stock already with good sights , overall better ergo's, texture and most off all a superb trigger. It was even mentioned in the comparison video. That they dont know the P10 series that well. Why does it keep getting overlooked
Aaron what is the name of your holster for your X-Five? I also too have the same pistol and absolutely love SIG SAUER all the way!!!!! I'm just curious of the holster you use. (Thinking about getting one)
Content was excellent presentation even better. You Brothers have great chemistry. I like to listen to content while working and I can definitely just listen to your presentation. Maybe the music in the background does it but it was almost listening to a radio show. Much enjoyed you guys have a new subscriber! Great channel!
I have yet to shoot the M&P 2.0 and the FN. I of course have a few Glocks and won’t argue against it. But I have shot the M17 for my Army reserve unit and I gotta say that Sig definitely left a good impression on me with that pistol after shooting a few hundred rounds. Good shooting gentlemen ❤️
I have an M&P 40. Best handgun Ive ever owned. Had a Glock 23 years ago. And at the time, it was cool, because it was a Glock. But when I picked up this M&P (an LE turn in from you guys I might add) , Soo much better. The grip, the sights, recoil, the whole deal. Mikie Likie!
Sig all way it has the best ergonomics, trigger, aesthetics, and shoot ability out of all of them. Especially when you get up to the legion series and axg
Good comparison, fun to watch. All four pistols will do their job as duty pistols. There is some personal preference and brand loyalty that the commenters will mention. Glock is the standard in the market and is a good choice, with the optional night sights, or aftermarket ones. FN 509 surprises people when they get to shoot one. It's good. The M&P 2.0 checks the right boxes, and is very ergonomic in the grip, especially with the interchangeable backstraps. Sig may have been handicapped a little in this comparison as Aaron mentioned, the X Frame and Trigger gives the P320 a different, more updated feel compared to the M17. Not being a Kool Aid drinker, if you were handed one of these pistols to work with, you would be fine.
I've been carrying my department issue Glock 23, gen 3 ever since it was issued to me in the early 2000. It has never failed me but I decided to switch to my personal issue Sig 226 in 9mm.
I say this as a Sig fanboy and have no plans to get rid of my beloved P320, but the M&P 2.0's really are underrated guns. I threw on a Wilson Combat grip on my and it greatly improved the ergonomics and feel in my hand, but I'm not about to argue the ergonomics of the M&P's out of the box.
Aaron is a pretty cool guy and a great addition to the team! Of course the CZP10 is better than all of these. Put an Apex trigger in the M&P and it is a close second.😊
Why don't you guys pick up an X-carry / X-full P320 for these kind of comparisons? That's going to be the most common config someone will pick up at their local gun store or a local PD is going to use. It's got the better flat trigger, better grip module, and better sights. Not many are using the M17 version.
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I have a Glock and I have a S&W M&P and for me it is the M&P all day every day. The Smith M&P line is underrated. Smith and Wesson is a firearms power house legend that got passed by Glock in the 80's and it's taken a while to answer Glock. The M&P line does it and more. It has suppressor height sights, an awesome redesigned stock flat face trigger you don't really have to replace, ergonomics just work, grip angle, and it's every bit as rock solid and durable as a Glock. M&P 2.0 for me.
Why did he have two failure to eject on the Smith? I presume they were using the same Ammo on all the Guns other wise it woudn't be fair right?
@@ottoman5713 agreed, you can have the same brand and yet, sometimes if they are not all boxed together have different lots of ammo. The chemical mix usually consistent, but even with a good ammo manufacturer the occasional outlier this happens unfortunately.
@@terrarecon How Coincidence that both times what you just said it happened to the Smith not any other. makes me scratch my head. could it be possible that particular Gun is a somewhat Lemon from the factory?
@@ottoman5713 lol, are you as dumb as a bag of hammers? You do realize factory ammunition is not flawless. Felicia.
@ottoman5713 really? So you just glossed over the other ammo failures in the video? 😅 ok
M&P just does it right. May not be a "glock killer" for everyone but it was a clear choice over a glock for me personally. Sidenote: That Sig Aaron is carrying is beautiful 🔥
M&Ps are great pistols
You two together make the best videos I swear
Smith is the most underrated striker fired pistol out there. It’s far superior to others for everything that comes stock.
Far superior? Really starting with that trigger LMFAO
I don’t think it’s that underrated. I think the most underrated striker fired is the Beretta APX. I don’t know if it’s because the aftermarket didn’t take off or that it was ruined by TH-cam or something but I bought it for a pistol class so I could let my sister use the Glock. Was $300 and now my best shooter and it feels the most ergonomic. Mine is the centurion but I like the others too.
@@great_deceptiontrigger is great wdym? Blows glock out of the water, and feels better than sig to me.
@@brownmangaming1529 You are telling me the M&P stock trigger (not the newly released flat trigger) is a great trigger ???
@@great_deceptionare you basing that opinion off the Gen 1 trigger? Or 2.0
Oh so you guys wanted to start a war today i see…
Yup grabbing my popcorn and waiting in the comment section for all the P320 comments LOL
War today, another apocalypse tomorrow.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
@@PTIPPYthe lame ones?
M&P is the best value in the game.
S&W 2.0 with the new trigger FTW. Our department carries mainly Glock 17s and S&W. The failures I’ve seen have been with the Sig P320s.
What failures have you specifically seen with P320s? I'll be surprised if I get a response.
@@great_deceptionYeah you called it.
Please do a video on S&W metal series. As far as I know there’s the competitor, spec series, and M&P 2.0.
I own them, and they're awesome. My usual edc is the competitor.
@@jasonstearns1044 I held one at the gun store and the trigger is just great. I was also looking at the shield ez performance center more for concealment.
S&W MP is simply awesome. I don't know why is so underrated.
Because no first world military uses them plus the failed hype about how "they were going to put Glock out of business."
From what I hear there were some issues with the Gen 1s. I know a few local agencies who complained but for those who got the Gen 2s, they love them. Personally, I haven't been issued a S&W as a duty gun so I don't have any experience with the M&P. I'd get one though.
They were using the same ammunition on these tests cause Smith twice had failure to eject and Kaya said it was the ammunition how could that be? above all tests on every gun reliability is paramount. that is why I will take the Glock no matter the sites not the trigger {not being the best} as long as it goes Bang each time I pull the trigger.
@@ottoman5713 There is a lot of unedited footage we were not shown, so you have to take them at face value if they say it was ammo related. I agree that they could have explained that better why they concluded it was ammo related. That part of the video demonstrates exactly why a break in is needed to vet out the pistol, mags, and its ammo preferences..
@@artgee2270 That wasn't an ammo issue 😂😂
The M&P is really a good pistol.
Yes sir. My first pistol and still running strong
I've got the M&P 2.0 the one with the new trigger upgrade and Man it's an amazing pistol.
Same.
That's exactly what US DoD procurement says every time too: 7:47 "100% going to be serious and unbiased, w-we know Sig is going to win but I'm going to be unbiased..."
Sig and Glock are the only two handgun providers to the US federal and US MIL agencies. M&P never was fielded by any US federal LE nor any US military unit. SOCOM is buying both Glock and Sigs.
This should be interesting. The battle of the true duty guns. I would have liked to see the PDP in there as well.
I aswell! But is it a duty gun? What I mean are there people out there using it as a duty gun? I own all of the guns they shot today and also PDP PRO SD COMPACT. THE PDP -F and I like them just as much if not more but I don’t believe it’s out there performing as a duty gun as of this point. I can say I like both the PDP SD COMPACT AND THE PDP-F better than all the guns they shot on this vid.
@@nickibateson1466 I have seen police videos where I can see PDPs in badge cams. So there must be some precincts using it.
@@nickibateson1466it's definitely a duty gun. It's just not as common. PDP literally stands for Performance Duty Pistol.
Pennsylvania State Police have made the PDP their duty weapon.
My Dept will move away from glocks in two years and go with S&W. I'm short, so it won't apply to me. Counting down.
If you’re built like Gigantopithecus maybe you can control the 320.
For those of us normal sized humans, the M&P and Glock fit the roll.
I mean jeez that 320 didn’t even move.
It's not supposed to you weak arm little girl
The M&P is pretty good but the biggest underrated polymer frame pistol is the Beretta PX4 Storm. It’s got a really good trigger straight from the factory and it’s very accurate.
It's good, but this was about most carried LE duty pistols.
@@terrarecon My PX4 is a police trade in in 45ACP. Yeah, they just did not gain any widespread adoption in the LE community.
Shout out from the Bay Area!! Thanks for your service!
FN 509 Tac has been my EDC 5 years straight.
509 compact for me when I really want to conceal, though I’ve been running the PDP for the last month or two
I think the 509 platform is the ideal LE choice:
It has a heavier, duty style trigger so less chance of ND in stressful situations
24 round OEM back up mag
Optic ready
Great ergonomics
Reputable manufacturer
Pic rail
Threaded barrel option
I have about 5K rounds through my 509T and in its stock configuration have never had a malfunction- I barely clean or lube my pistols either
The last time they did comparisons the CZP 10 F was ahead of every gun they tried.
I have a P10F and I tried S&W M&P 9 Vitac on my local range and I thought initially that I like smith better but after one hour with both I decided that I stay with my p10f, need to try m&p 2.0. though
My CZ P10C is HIGHLY underrated so yeah... agree 100%!
*The CZ P10 F is a beast of a handgun! As good or better than the ones shown in this video.*
I know I lot of people complain Glock didn't change a lot of stock between each generation, but honestly, as a left-handed shooter, the gen 5 (glock 17) really deserves special mention especially if you compare with gen 3.
M and P had 2 issues with ammo? Others did not should be a factor.
I agree about the Glocks. I have a Glock 19 and the original sights and trigger are not good. I would definitely recommend changing both of those after getting a Glock. After you change those 2 things it is an awesome pistol.
For their cost, you shouldn't have to change either. Let's face it, every single gun out there comes stock with better sights and triggers.
Kaya may be buff but dude Aaron and the control of the pistol it’s like recoil just don’t exist
Go figure the federal agent doesn't know how to shoot properly 😂😂😂😂
He can shoot but bruh deisel😂
I’m a Sig fanboy and choose Sig
6:12 Boyoyoing boyoyoing 😂
Aaron has superior recoil control
My FNS-40 is a beast .... never getting rid of it ...
I EDC the subcompact version (12+1) of the M&p9 m2.0 and man I love it, it’s only a little bit bigger than the shield/shield plus but shoots like a full size and takes the 15, 17, and 23 m&p mags. It’s my main squeeze for sure.
I have the subcompact and its definitely a keeper for me, got rid of my glock 26
For once, finally. I actually agree with your ranking on this one.
I'm a firearms instructor for my small department and just speaking for myself not even my trainees...I love the M&P metal series. Low recoil, reliable and low bore axis which was big for me. I don't have a problem with other brands except sig can't deal with the 6" bore axis 😂
We need a head to head between the M&P and the CZ P10
They did a comparison with most of the striker, fired pistols in existence, and the CZ won.
If you want to get shot by your duty pistol while still in it's holster get a sig. If you want a good duty pistol get a S&W, Glock, H&K, FN, CZ...Let the flame wars begin...
Sad you believe the cops.
never heard of Glock leg eh?
@@drewsky-pr4bjexperience has taught me that 2/3 of people in the TH-cam comments are too young to remember Glock leg
So glad I’ve found you guys channel. Love all the head to head comparisons!
Yall hit the nail on the head m&p us the best
S&w is and always will be the main character
Yet Glock and Sig outsell them with consumers, militaries, and police. By what metric is Smithy "the main character" lol
@@great_deceptionby fudds who have no knowledge of what they're talking about
@@great_deception lol, fanboy, why don’t you make a video? Felicia
@@trentroberdeau1462 Exactly the response we can expect from someone like you.
Kaya acting like the m&p wasnt off but taking at least 2x as long to take shots with the m&p.
Great video. Gotta see this again with a new round of contenders.
Aaron, what is the brand of that extended may release on your SIG legion?? Never seen anything like it. Looks badass.
I didn't get a great look at the one he has but I have an Allign Tactical offset extended release & love it. They do offer a thumb rest aka gas pedal but personally I didn't like it but one from Sig/Gogun felt more natural
Also not sure if your running an optic I have a Forward Control Design & Tango Down colab plate which gives you the option to have backups if you want them but they also have regular plates
My latest purchase was for my girl and is a Smith & Wesson M & P Equalizer. Surprisingly, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!
As far as what I own the most of.. Sig Sauer. Not sure how I managed this in all my years but I own only one Glock!! It's not that I don't like them, it's just worked out that way! I do love my Sig's and S&W's!!
Equalizer is FANTASTIC!! I want one for EDC.
@Rider-nb5ts I had it set out on the counter sitting next to others costing twice what it does. Thinking, "This S&W has NO BUSINESS racking this nicely!" However, though S&W have definitely stepped their game up, it's still a S&W trigger! Also, trying to keep in mind it racks so nice due to it stemming from the EZ lineup which is designed for weaker wrist (aka the ladies) and those with comprisedhand/wrist strength. When i bought it my intention was to give it to my a girl.. a liberal from NY that had never shot a gun but that didnt last and im happy with it. Comes with 10, 13 & 15 round mags. They're SUPER tight when fully loaded. Makes me nervous as an EDC and praying with more rounds I can fully trust it! Also going to try and stretch the spring. But, with an appendix carry, 15+1 should be MORE than enough!! I'll tell you what I'm switching to and I would recommend it over the Equalizer is the Sig Sauer P365 X-MACRO. On top of the slimmer profile, optic ready, and light rail you get 17+1 and, most importantly, a ported barrel! That's what I'd put that 550-ish towards!!
@@Rider-nb5ts see above, please. TH-cam ALWAYS untags replies if I type too much!
Walther PDP Pro would have been cool in there.
No
This session was about the most common LE carried duty pistols with the FN tossed in for added context since FN got a major contract with LAPD.
PDP has no following like safariland als ect. great gun but no support
My M&P 1.0 9mm is another one I'm keeping ...
I still carry a 92 FS Beretta on duty. Had it since 1996 and it has never failed me once after all these years.
Couldn't be more outdated. A manual safety to deactivate plus a 14-lbs. first shot. Wonderful.
@@great_deception 🤡
What holster are you using? I’m trying to use my m9a4 but I can’t find a level 3 holster!
@@MichaelHonchonas I have to use a Serpa level 2 holster but Saffariland use to make a level 3 for them. Lock and Rock style.
Sig won an I didn’t finish the video yet hehehehe sig all day any day!!
M&P m2 grip texture one of the best and during rapid fire, the gun will glue and more stable in the hands
You forgot to mention the best ones: HK SFP9/VP9 and P30
PDP beats VP9
@@perrymiller1098the trigger only
@@perrymiller1098 absolutely not
@@perrymiller1098 imo Walther are no way near as robust / duty grade but definitely shoot very nice.
@@perrymiller1098 too lightweight/snappy unfortunately.
M&P all the way. Underrated! I was a Glock guy for years, but now all I own are M&P’s.
Great job on objectively comparing them. These videos help me
great video thanks two you both
What ammo were you guys using? Seems like some of those rounds are really inconsistent.
S&W M&P all day!!!
Correct
Aarons Sig bias always gets me pumped! Love it!!
I started as a Sig fanboy who didn't want a Glock because they were "too mainstream", but let me tell you something, FN makes freaking amazing pistols.
Hi Point now that's a keeper! In a safe on the bottom
I would have liked to see a Walther and CZ gun in the mix and see how that would have affected the rankings. Imma Sig guy all day long but the S&W looks and shoots pretty awesome. I barely saw any flip when Aaron was shooting it, seems like a damn accurate gun.
Most departments don’t carry those for duty use, they did a hour long video comparing every modern striker fired pistol
see their other video "What Is The Best Full Size Striker Fired Pistol?" -- the results are much different. Weird.
@@Haveuseenmyjetpack I honestly feel like there opinions vary based on what sales they are having on there website
I’m not a 9mm fan, but I finally joined the club for my EDC in-town (stepped down from 10mm). I bought an FN509 Tactical, with the LAPD (think Apex😉) trigger. I run it AIWB either a sidecar and an RMR2 ADJ 3.25. The trigger was a little gritty feeling for a bit. Not sure where it changed but I’m now thousands of rounds into it, and I absolutely love it. I don’t mind the S&W but it isn’t my thing. I’d run the Sig and be comfortable, but I’ve got lots of experience shooting my wife’s Sigs so I’m familiar. Glocks are fairly reliable, affordable, mediocrity, period. FN brings SO much more value for the dollar spent. Most people gravitate towards “cheap” over other features.
Please elaborate on the ammo issue with the Smith. I assume you were using the same ammo on all the guns?
Underpowered round, didnt send the slide far enough back to eject the spent casing. Not super common but not unheard of
@puffymarshmellow3149 Thank you. Your video's are WORLD class🙂
Watch the video Felicia, you could see there was no recoil on those two. Lol.
@trentroberdeau1462 congratulations on being the lowest class individual I've ever came across on one of these forums🤮
Glad to finally see the FN 509 platform thrown into the mix but if you’re comparing police pistol models you should definitely try the LE version that comes with the flat face trigger
Did you shoot the same ammo through all of them? If so the Glock and Sig worked every time. The M&P did not work every time.
You guy's did a fantastic job! I agree with #1 always a few haters, losers..
Smith and wesson all the way
“Ammo issue” lol ok
@@ClaytonF10 ya maybe they did not push that fact an did not cut it out so makes you think lol. I have the smith a never had a single issue with it ever. That being said not sure if I would take n e ones word 100% on any gun do your own research forsure.
Yes sir
They are definitely tempting. I’m already married though.
Smith & Wesson is not that great
I wonder if any departments will issue CZs.
People have been claiming this for about 15 years, yet not one single US LE agencies issues CZs to their officers, if they did, we would have heard about it by now.
Classic firearms, police pistols and no model 15 combat masterpiece.
😂😂😭🤣”you touch that you gotta sit down for a sec,smoke a cigarette” 😭😭
What holosun is that ? Didnt think they had a holosun that would mount straight on an x5 slide. Another question does it have to have a special holster to use that take down pin/gas pedal?
Tango Down & Forward Control Design colab'd and honestly one of the better plates, both companies do make plates & accessories for the X5 but the colab plate does allow you to run BUIS. Though I don't think my optic would die but if it does I like having backups
As for holsters depending on use few companies offer Holsters what he is running & I run a similar one is a Safariland(similar background so I know the controls or how it works though I did add an upgraded ALS Nub which is better) not sure if he did it himself or had someone do it but personally I bought mine through RDR Gear and they modified it you can get it wrapped as well in various colors & patterns though adds to lead time. The issue is Sig had an X5 Carry but slide & barrel were different sizes where the X5 Legion has a 5" barrel. Also if you plan to or are running optics which ever model you choose make sure it's RDS so I think I have a 6390 RDS though the light doesn't matter as long as it's either a Streamlight TLR-1 or Surefire X300 both fit same holster. Also I originally had an Allign Tactical thumb rest but didn't like it & have the Gogun Gas Pedal(which Sig actually sells) and I haven't had one issue with it snagging. Probably also worth mentioning I do also run an Allign Offset Extended Mag release as well & no issue with that either.
Though I may buy a Halosun 507K in the future I currently run a Gen 1 SwampFox Justice w/ 3 MOA Green Dot(the Gen 2 SF decided to use a 6moa dot which is to big for my needs).
It's the greatest time to be a Smith and Wesson guy! That P320 the Sig glazer had holstered would only win if the competition was for pistols that double as grenades 😂
Yawn
"It's the greatest time to be a Smith and Wesson guy." Man what a cult, especially considering there are more Glocks and Sig in US LE holsters and not a single first world military has ever fielded any single M&P product. What a statement, these Smith fans are at the delusional level probably still thinking one day the M&P will put Glock out of business.
Glock 19 MOS
HK VP9
SW MP 2.0
FN 509
SIG P229
I love the S&W MP series. Own several of them,including the M&P 2.0 competitor. I edc the competitor most of the time. It's a great shooting pistol,full metal,light,great sites, ergonomic fit is excellent and changeable, removable magwell,great recoil mitigation,optics ready,flashlight or laser ready and it looks good. I'm a big guy(6'8) with big hands. It's hard finding firearms that fit good in my hands,let alone fitting perfectly....but the M&P line hasn't let me down. Other full-sized pistols have felt like little toys in my hands to the point that they were uncomfortable.
S&W M&P 2.0 is number one. I have one that I used in a two day carbine & pistol course. Fired 800 rounds through it in the two days without a hitch. I've not fired the Sig or an FN, so I can't say anything about them. But, the military seems to have adapted to the Sig Sauer P320. There must be something to that. As for the Glock, I've shot Glocks since the late 80's when Gaston Glock first introduced the Glock 19 to the NYC Police Dept. It was a learning curve. And an even harder to teach cops who were used to shooting S&W M&P Model 10 Revolvers in .38 caliber with a 13 lbs. trigger. Since then I've owned the Glock Gen 3 and today the Glock 19 Gen 5, which is their best Glock in my humble opinion. But, I carry a S&W M&P Shield Plus today. Had to teach myself to shoot with red dot sights.
2 fails on m&p should run anything...i had same problem don't know why people love them
lol, You do realize that factory ammo is not flawless, just watch the video you can see plain as Day It is the ammo. You sound like a Karen.
More agencies dropped the M&P than any other gun compared to Glocks or P320s. One of the biggest was Texas DPS because of reliability reasons. Mass. State Police were just fielding new M&P 2.0s and the batches that arrived had so many problems out of the box, the MSP is switching now to the Sig P320.
@@great_deception na, not really
@@trentroberdeau1462 Lookup those agencies, figure it out instead of being in denial. If M&P are so good and "combat proven", give us two 1st-world military or special forces than use M&P products.
The s&w 2.0 trigger isn't my jam along with the glock. FN is my personal favorite, but the sig 320 if im going to be honest with my self is the best shooting pistol in the video
Kaya, you said you would upgrade the trigger for the glock. Which aftermarket trigger would be a good everyday carry?
Pizza
Performance trigger from Glock
@@doodad thanks
'Issa Trap'. Is the better intro jam
Just love it, get the Glock it's a good basic model.
But spend this and this and this for better sights, trigger and what else.😂
Better fix, get a CZ P10
cheaper price and just stock already with good sights , overall better ergo's, texture and most off all a superb trigger.
It was even mentioned in the comparison video. That they dont know the P10 series that well.
Why does it keep getting overlooked
I believe this video is based on Police duty options. I don't know if any departments using CZ
Loved the video and banter. Now do it for compact versions as well please m&p compact, G19, sig m18, etc.
for those saying the M&P isn’t reliable, watch garand thumbs frozen pistol test
Aaron what is the name of your holster for your X-Five? I also too have the same pistol and absolutely love SIG SAUER all the way!!!!! I'm just curious of the holster you use. (Thinking about getting one)
Content was excellent presentation even better. You Brothers have great chemistry. I like to listen to content while working and I can definitely just listen to your presentation.
Maybe the music in the background does it but it was almost listening to a radio show. Much enjoyed you guys have a new subscriber! Great channel!
Not sure about this p320 they shot but I have a custom combat AXG version and it's the best pistol I own....in a large collection
Yall have to do a part 2 but add upgrades to each gun because Floyd Customs and Smith&Wesson killing it. one stop shop for M&P
It just hit me that y'all are educational eye candy. ❤ it.
I have yet to shoot the M&P 2.0 and the FN. I of course have a few Glocks and won’t argue against it. But I have shot the M17 for my Army reserve unit and I gotta say that Sig definitely left a good impression on me with that pistol after shooting a few hundred rounds. Good shooting gentlemen ❤️
If FN cold figure out their trigger it would be a beast of a gun, esp the 509T
Is there any way Kaya's microphone can be muted when Aaron is in the videos?
So after shooting the MnP 2.0 did either one of you guys decide to change over to it?
I have an M&P 40. Best handgun Ive ever owned. Had a Glock 23 years ago. And at the time, it was cool, because it was a Glock. But when I picked up this M&P (an LE turn in from you guys I might add) , Soo much better. The grip, the sights, recoil, the whole deal. Mikie Likie!
Imagine if they were allowed a Walther PDP or Springfield Echelon.
Sig all way it has the best ergonomics, trigger, aesthetics, and shoot ability out of all of them. Especially when you get up to the legion series and axg
The X-Pro/X-Carry P320s are at another level. they are incredible.
I’m getting ready to pickup the x five legion here soon I had a p320 spectre comp but sold it awhile back
Should I get the 3.6 4 or 4.25 smith?
No lie, I'm loading my 320 x5 legion right now. Outstanding gun!
Damn skippy
i love my s&w
Good comparison, fun to watch. All four pistols will do their job as duty pistols. There is some personal preference and brand loyalty that the commenters will mention. Glock is the standard in the market and is a good choice, with the optional night sights, or aftermarket ones. FN 509 surprises people when they get to shoot one. It's good. The M&P 2.0 checks the right boxes, and is very ergonomic in the grip, especially with the interchangeable backstraps. Sig may have been handicapped a little in this comparison as Aaron mentioned, the X Frame and Trigger gives the P320 a different, more updated feel compared to the M17. Not being a Kool Aid drinker, if you were handed one of these pistols to work with, you would be fine.
I've been carrying my department issue Glock 23, gen 3 ever since it was issued to me in the early 2000. It has never failed me but I decided to switch to my personal issue Sig 226 in 9mm.
Aaron’s recoil control is MILES ahead 😂
Ya know this was really good video but why dont you do da/sa pistols and to inclued the beretta px4 storm and the sig sp2022
Love your channel guys, seriously! You should have 3 million subscribers haha
I say this as a Sig fanboy and have no plans to get rid of my beloved P320, but the M&P 2.0's really are underrated guns. I threw on a Wilson Combat grip on my and it greatly improved the ergonomics and feel in my hand, but I'm not about to argue the ergonomics of the M&P's out of the box.
Aaron is a pretty cool guy and a great addition to the team!
Of course the CZP10 is better than all of these. Put an Apex trigger in the M&P and it is a close second.😊
Agree with you both!!!! Great content.
Oh the Glock had no jams the Smith had 2 with the same ammo? Yep it was the ammo!
Why don't you guys pick up an X-carry / X-full P320 for these kind of comparisons? That's going to be the most common config someone will pick up at their local gun store or a local PD is going to use. It's got the better flat trigger, better grip module, and better sights. Not many are using the M17 version.
Need to do an accuracy test on paper when doing this
Honestly, the Springfield Armory Echelon should just replace them all lol
I own several guns, but not one Smith or Glock. I've been looking at the M&P and the G19 and just can't decide between the 2.