Great review! I’ve got 100% success with this head (175 solid)...so far 6 deer down and counting with this head all recovered in under 50 yds! It’s my go to head!!!
I used these heads and had good luck with them until one of the blades folded over! I don’t know if it was just a fluke because it only happened one time. I emailed them about it and they ask for some pictures of the head and 4 days later they sent me 3 new ones in the mail. I don’t know of any other company that would of done that. Everything has a failure point and there is always flukes in everything. I now use Iron Will solid but these are great heads.
Thanks for sharing that. The vented blades are not quite as strong as the solid vanes. But on a hard bone impact at certain angles, anything can happen with any head.
Shot a bear this spring with xo solid out of bowtech sx80. Victory rip ss 535 gr arrows. Entry wound was the size of a baseball and exit was about 2x size of broadhead. Shoots really good. Shot at 52 yards. Bear ran about 15 yards. Complete pass through. Broadhead looked brand new. Highly recommend
Very nicely done video and real world broadhead testing for sure! I'm a big fan of fixed heads, and have had great success with my crossbows using the MAGNUS Black Hornets both serrated and plain edge. I'd love to see you test these blades from a 400 FPS crossbow.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures It's the fastest growing segment of the archery industry, and you're the best arrowhead reviewer on TH-cam, so I'd borrow one from your local bow shop!
@@MagnusBroadheads Shot two hogs with your Black Hornets, and my old Barnett Jackal. Shooting them exclusively again this FALL with my Barnett RAPTOR FX. It's a bit faster and I'm usually quality stiff spined bolts. Will let you and my viewers know just how well they work on my channel, so stay tuned.
@@FlyinZX10R they didn't work. I ended up using Mega Meats. The fixed blades just wouldn't fly consistent. I'm not a big expandable guy, but I ended up killing an 8 pointer with the Mega's and they put a huge hole in that buck.
@LuskArcheryAdventures so i use a ravin r26. What would you suggest the exodus qad 100gr or tooth of the arrow vented 100 gr??? Really appreciate the help
I was looking on there website for these broad heads and weren’t able to find them, just curious to know where you were able to get a hold of some? Love the reviews, keep it up!
Not a fan of their sharpener. I wish Stay Sharp still made their’s. Maybe TOTA could strike a deal with Stay Sharp and bring back that sharpener. Thank you for the most thorough and comprehensive broadhead tests available. Keep up the great work!!
Hey! I bought the 125gr 4blade solid and got my first ever deer with it back in October! Straight in and out of the heart. Fantastic broad head. However, I had to adjust my sights a lot to get it dialed in. It was shooting around 6in left of my field point. I am assuming it may be largely a bow tuning issue (?) do you have any insight or wisdom?? Thank you!
Yeah, sometimes I sharpen them a bit more on a thin stone. But they've always done well for me. I once shot three hogs in one day with the same head and did not resharpen it in between--all pass thrus.
I started using the 125 gr XL after a second mechanical head failure. 3 for 3 on deer so far with these, with pass thrus on all 3. First at < 20 yards broadside (buck, barely flinched took 2 steps and dropped). Next, 1/4ing away at 35 yards (buck, busted the last rib on entrance side exited in front of opposing shoulder). Third, 1/4ing to at approximately 20 yards (doe, chipped bone on the front of the shoulder exited just in front of the opposing hip)... complete confidence in this broadhead independent of the angle (within reason of course).
This has me sold enough to try em out just ordered a pack. I’m gonna shoot them with my old Hoyt Raider that I keep around for sentimental reasons. These on my old aluminum 2219s should be a heavyweight meat missile. Right now I’m shooting thunderhead magnums (170gr) but if these work as good as I think I’ll change to them for good. Have a good one 👍🏼
I really wish I could get my Tooth of the Arrow XL 100grains to fly right. Not having great success with getting them to group or fly well. I know it's not the broadhead, but something with the bow or the arrow selection. Local bow shop keeps telling me that some broadheads just won't fly right out of some bows. Ugh.
Yeah, the local shop is just not wanting to spend the time to help get your bow all tuned up well. And I don't fault them for that, they have a lot on their plates. But I will say, the XLs, with their extra surface area, are not as forgiving as the 1" size. I have a very well tuned bow and 20% FOC and use helical vanes, so that all helps.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures i shoot a 300 spine and 69 pounds but even at 20 yds the broadhead drops almost 3 inches i have the tooth of the arrow xls as well
I'm using the vented xl's currently and they fly great tested out to 40 yards!!! I use a tenpoint viper s400 and with my arrow set up I'm shooting around 370 fps
I like the tip design. I think that will be much more robust than normal tree blades where there is the same angle all the way to the tip making the tip very narrow and fragile. While on this one the tip has a much wider angle making it more robust to hard impacts kind of like how a axe has a wider angle bevel than a knife because the axe is designed for impacts.
Well, I loved doing that, but some people wanted to see a more realistic test--2 broadheads and 1 field point at 40 yds, to see how they group. That's why I started doing that in 2021.
I mentioned this in other videos previously: I find it totally misleading to use the holes in steel to benchmark the BH "wound channel capability" - the way the steel bends on impact is IMO in no way comparable with softer tissue. Just have a look of the "wound channel" @4:28 when shot through cardboard: a total different picture; of course also the later one is not representing the BH's real wound channel capability - the gel might be still be the best indicator for the wound channel, hence I wonder why you don't show the "wound channel" there?
Thanks for pointing that out again. I appreciate your thoughts. But it is what it is. Why do different heads make different holes in a static medium like steel? I believe it is an indication of how it performs on an animal--not a perfect indication, but definitely noteworthy. In gel, even the Clear Ballistics gel, it is difficult to see a clear "cut out" like you can see in steel. In many of the animals I've shot with the Exodus and TOTA, I've seen that exact wound channel--a triangular hole or square hole in the hide, as opposed to 3 or 4 slits. It's not so clear in every animal shot, as there are so many other variables, but there is definitely something there--more "tissue" is being displaced by the thicker ferrule and broader tips, similar to what the Annihilator does.
Used the smaller one when they first came out shot a 9 pointer perfect shot buck jumped like a mule ran off about 20 yrds and stood there and walked off no blood trail what so ever the arrow was bloody needles to say not a fan same thing happened with the annihilator broadheads great penetration broadheads but no blood trails
Thanks for sharing that Ace. Blood trails are 90% shot placement...but even then, whether the animals lungs are inflated or deflated makes a big difference; as well as each animal's individual anatomy and the way they move at the exact point of impact. Either way, you know you are cutting 2" of tissue right thru an animal if the broadhead doesn't break into pieces--the rest is shot placement, anatomy, and movement after the shot.
Why 72 lbs make you feel manly man God didn't make all of us so manly I shoot like 56 lbs but my arrows and broadheads are efficient so don't take much
Best broadhead test on the internet!
Thank you Colby. I appreciate the encouragement brother.
Great review! I’ve got 100% success with this head (175 solid)...so far 6 deer down and counting with this head all recovered in under 50 yds! It’s my go to head!!!
Good to hear that. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I have been waiting for this for so long! Specifically the 175’s
Glad to hear that.
I used these heads and had good luck with them until one of the blades folded over! I don’t know if it was just a fluke because it only happened one time. I emailed them about it and they ask for some pictures of the head and 4 days later they sent me 3 new ones in the mail. I don’t know of any other company that would of done that. Everything has a failure point and there is always flukes in everything. I now use Iron Will solid but these are great heads.
Thanks for sharing that. The vented blades are not quite as strong as the solid vanes. But on a hard bone impact at certain angles, anything can happen with any head.
I saw that happen to someone that was testing them through bone
Very impressed with the performance, durability, & heavy weight. Will definitely give them a try. Thank you
Yeah, I was as well. Good luck!
Shot a bear this spring with xo solid out of bowtech sx80. Victory rip ss 535 gr arrows. Entry wound was the size of a baseball and exit was about 2x size of broadhead. Shoots really good. Shot at 52 yards. Bear ran about 15 yards. Complete pass through. Broadhead looked brand new. Highly recommend
Oh, that’s good to hear. Thank you for sharing that experience.
Great fixed broadsheets. Thanks for the info about the sharpener
Thanks Michael.
Wow, that's impressive. I like everything about this one. I may have to pick up some of these.
They're a solid choice.
I’ve been using these for 3 years now and I believe they are the best bang for your buck broadhead on the market
Yeah, they really are a great all round head, especially for the money.
Very nicely done video and real world broadhead testing for sure! I'm a big fan of fixed heads, and have had great success with my crossbows using the MAGNUS Black Hornets both serrated and plain edge. I'd love to see you test these blades from a 400 FPS crossbow.
Thank you. If I had a crossbow, I'd gladly do that test.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures It's the fastest growing segment of the archery industry, and you're the best arrowhead reviewer on TH-cam, so I'd borrow one from your local bow shop!
@@MagnusBroadheads Shot two hogs with your Black Hornets, and my old Barnett Jackal. Shooting them exclusively again this FALL with my Barnett RAPTOR FX. It's a bit faster and I'm usually quality stiff spined bolts. Will let you and my viewers know just how well they work on my channel, so stay tuned.
Thanks for video
Most welcome
I just ordered the 125 gr XL Solid. I hope they fly well with my Havoc 440 crossbow.
They fly very well for me.
How did they end up performing in your crossbow? I’m looking at the 175s as I have some 175 grain mechanicals too.
@@FlyinZX10R they didn't work. I ended up using Mega Meats. The fixed blades just wouldn't fly consistent. I'm not a big expandable guy, but I ended up killing an 8 pointer with the Mega's and they put a huge hole in that buck.
@@cfranson1 I’m kinda new to archery but the common thought seems to be fixed broadheads don’t fly as well as mechanicals do from 400+ fps crossbows.
I love the new head going to try them this year.
Nice. Hope they work well for you.
@LuskArcheryAdventures so i use a ravin r26. What would you suggest the exodus qad 100gr or tooth of the arrow vented 100 gr??? Really appreciate the help
Good job as always , ty
Thanks Chris.
Those holes look badass
Yeah, they are!
I was looking on there website for these broad heads and weren’t able to find them, just curious to know where you were able to get a hold of some? Love the reviews, keep it up!
They are on the website👍🏼 I just looked …
Click on the 1 3/16” and go down to the options you’ll see 175grain
I see them now, thank you!
EBay
They're on the site; I just looked them up.
Wow impressive!
Right? Thanks for watching.
With those sharpening stones, best to go forwards. Reduces the size of the burr. You can also strop it later.
Okay, thanks for pointing that out.
Not a fan of their sharpener. I wish Stay Sharp still made their’s. Maybe TOTA could strike a deal with Stay Sharp and bring back that sharpener. Thank you for the most thorough and comprehensive broadhead tests available. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks Derek. TOTA wanted to do that with Stay Sharp, but it wasn't really worth it for Stay Sharp, cause the revenue margin is so small.
Hey! I bought the 125gr 4blade solid and got my first ever deer with it back in October! Straight in and out of the heart. Fantastic broad head.
However, I had to adjust my sights a lot to get it dialed in. It was shooting around 6in left of my field point. I am assuming it may be largely a bow tuning issue (?) do you have any insight or wisdom?? Thank you!
Thanks for sharing that. And congratulations! That’s quite an accomplishment. Well done. Yes, that would be a bow tuning issue.
I do like these heads, butvnotva fan of the sharpening system. I wish they were a little bit sharper. Great review.
Yeah, sometimes I sharpen them a bit more on a thin stone. But they've always done well for me. I once shot three hogs in one day with the same head and did not resharpen it in between--all pass thrus.
Great video John! How well do these work on steep angles?
Like any short, wide broadhead, you don't want to take a super extreme angled shot. But at 30 degrees or greater, they do fine.
I started using the 125 gr XL after a second mechanical head failure. 3 for 3 on deer so far with these, with pass thrus on all 3.
First at < 20 yards broadside (buck, barely flinched took 2 steps and dropped).
Next, 1/4ing away at 35 yards (buck, busted the last rib on entrance side exited in front of opposing shoulder).
Third, 1/4ing to at approximately 20 yards (doe, chipped bone on the front of the shoulder exited just in front of the opposing hip)... complete confidence in this broadhead independent of the angle (within reason of course).
Do the v- series XL make big holes like these
Yep; same holes...but the solids are a bit stronger.
Did you retest sharpness after you used the sharpener?
I did on my own, but not on the vid. I did it later. It helps!
This has me sold enough to try em out just ordered a pack. I’m gonna shoot them with my old Hoyt Raider that I keep around for sentimental reasons. These on my old aluminum 2219s should be a heavyweight meat missile. Right now I’m shooting thunderhead magnums (170gr) but if these work as good as I think I’ll change to them for good. Have a good one 👍🏼
Sounds good. Good luck brother.
I really wish I could get my Tooth of the Arrow XL 100grains to fly right. Not having great success with getting them to group or fly well. I know it's not the broadhead, but something with the bow or the arrow selection. Local bow shop keeps telling me that some broadheads just won't fly right out of some bows. Ugh.
Yeah, the local shop is just not wanting to spend the time to help get your bow all tuned up well. And I don't fault them for that, they have a lot on their plates. But I will say, the XLs, with their extra surface area, are not as forgiving as the 1" size. I have a very well tuned bow and 20% FOC and use helical vanes, so that all helps.
The best intro I ever😂🤣😂🤣 heard......
I like big cuts - JLusk
Haha. Thanks Demun.
can you use these in crossbows
Absolutely.
what arrow spine are you using? my field points shoot perfect and every time i shoot these broadheads (same grain) they shoot 3 or more inches low
With these, I was shooting a 25 and three-quarter inch arrow at 72 pounds and 300 Spine.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures i shoot a 300 spine and 69 pounds but even at 20 yds the broadhead drops almost 3 inches i have the tooth of the arrow xls as well
That head looks like it's made for punching holes in the steel plate.
Cool head John.
Donut Dan
Haha. It does the same in animals.
Anyone ever shoot these out of a fast xbow?
The 1" flies extremely well at any speed. I've not tested the 1 3/16" Solid out of a crossbow.
I'm using the vented xl's currently and they fly great tested out to 40 yards!!! I use a tenpoint viper s400 and with my arrow set up I'm shooting around 370 fps
I like the tip design. I think that will be much more robust than normal tree blades where there is the same angle all the way to the tip making the tip very narrow and fragile. While on this one the tip has a much wider angle making it more robust to hard impacts kind of like how a axe has a wider angle bevel than a knife because the axe is designed for impacts.
Yep, exactly.
No long range balloon pop?
Well, I loved doing that, but some people wanted to see a more realistic test--2 broadheads and 1 field point at 40 yds, to see how they group. That's why I started doing that in 2021.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks for the reply brother. Have a great one.
I mentioned this in other videos previously: I find it totally misleading to use the holes in steel to benchmark the BH "wound channel capability" - the way the steel bends on impact is IMO in no way comparable with softer tissue. Just have a look of the "wound channel" @4:28 when shot through cardboard: a total different picture; of course also the later one is not representing the BH's real wound channel capability - the gel might be still be the best indicator for the wound channel, hence I wonder why you don't show the "wound channel" there?
Thanks for pointing that out again. I appreciate your thoughts. But it is what it is. Why do different heads make different holes in a static medium like steel? I believe it is an indication of how it performs on an animal--not a perfect indication, but definitely noteworthy. In gel, even the Clear Ballistics gel, it is difficult to see a clear "cut out" like you can see in steel. In many of the animals I've shot with the Exodus and TOTA, I've seen that exact wound channel--a triangular hole or square hole in the hide, as opposed to 3 or 4 slits. It's not so clear in every animal shot, as there are so many other variables, but there is definitely something there--more "tissue" is being displaced by the thicker ferrule and broader tips, similar to what the Annihilator does.
wrt gel: you could put colored tap to the front of the get block to get a better contrast for the cut?
Fyi I have seen tooth of the arrows in proshops.
Yeah, they do have them in some shops, but most of their sales are direct to consumer.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures for sure
Think ima pair these or the annihilators up with the true blue cross breed
Yeah, I've used the 1" TOTA with Crossbreeds quite a bit.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I think I’m gonna give them a try with the annihilators this year since I already have a pack of those.
Hard to beat a head that good
True.
Would u recommend for traditional bow hunting? I hunt with a 52# long bow pushing arrow mid 170 FPS with my current 150-175 grain head
They can certainly get the job done...but I've not tested them with trad gear. Shorter heads penetrate more effectively than most people think.
I bought their sharpener and i couldnt get the heads sharp . Heads fly great I no longer hunt with their heads .
Sorry to hear that.
Used the smaller one when they first came out shot a 9 pointer perfect shot buck jumped like a mule ran off about 20 yrds and stood there and walked off no blood trail what so ever the arrow was bloody needles to say not a fan same thing happened with the annihilator broadheads great penetration broadheads but no blood trails
Thanks for sharing that Ace. Blood trails are 90% shot placement...but even then, whether the animals lungs are inflated or deflated makes a big difference; as well as each animal's individual anatomy and the way they move at the exact point of impact. Either way, you know you are cutting 2" of tissue right thru an animal if the broadhead doesn't break into pieces--the rest is shot placement, anatomy, and movement after the shot.
I shot a does with these last year and the blood trail was unbelievable spewing out both sides she dropped within 30 yards
Well you didn’t hit him in the right spot , you hit them in the boiler room they don’t go far
There ant much to say bout these..
They very very work well
Yep.
dull?
I can get them pretty sharp!
Hi John is it the higher the number on the sharpness meter the duller the blades?
.44 mag 😎👍👍
yep.
Not available. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
What's not available? They are on their website right now.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures hmmmm, checked last night and they were not. Other people saying the same thing. 🤷♂️ I’ll give another look. Ty.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures got um. Under the 1 3/16 at 175 grain option. 👍🏻
Why 72 lbs make you feel manly man God didn't make all of us so manly I shoot like 56 lbs but my arrows and broadheads are efficient so don't take much
Haha. Naw, I just have a very short draw length, so I need every bit of poundage I can muster. But as I age, I'm going to start lowering it a bit.