I liked the comment about many parents choosing Memoria Press because of the literature. That's exactly why we did! We got the catalogs a year ago and have been poring over them. I even made my kids' reading lists off of the catalog. Comparing those good books with the garbage they came home from school with was the final clincher!
This was perfection. Thank you both so much for doing this as I was one of the mamas who requested it. Carrie, I am preparing an email to send to you. I have my new catalog and my notepad. I have some questions and I need help with a big picture plan so I can see our end in sight. I can’t wait to receive feedback and get my order ready 🙏🏾💞
This was over too soon! Thanks for the fun conversation. And just to note: the scene is Anna Karenina when Levin is working in the field -- that was a big one for me, too.
8th The Wind in the Willows: I thought this book was 4th grade reading level. Wouldn’t 8th graders find it too easy? Tom Sawyer: What is a good argument as to why students should read this book? Shakespeare: What plays are the students reading in 7th grade to have a foundation for reading plays with more difficult/older language in 8th grade? 11th and 12th Divine Comedy: Standard middle school reading in Italy. Why wait until 11th grade? Anna Karentina: Not the best Tolstoy but not the easiest either. What Tolstoy have the students read to prepare them for this book?
Hi, when you both were talking about Shakespeare, and that obtaining books with good footnotes to help with the vocabulary was so important. You made me wonder, is there a vocabulary program that would prepare young students for reading these classics? My daughter is very young, 6 years old, is doing fourth grade reading and fifth grade math. I’m making her read Pathway Reader Grade 4 just to increase her reading skill and vocabulary. She has a nearly photographic memory with everything except numbers. She tells me it doesn’t work with numbers. 😉 So if you had a child who could simply read a vocabulary book and absorb it, what would you recommend to help expand her vocabulary and prepare her for the classics? Thank you :) Josey
6 years old! That is so cool! What a challenge! I thought of the “Worldly Wise” and “Vocabulary from Classical Roots” program but my daughter is currently doing the 8th grade work in Memoria Press and MP has an incredible amount of vocabulary in their Classical Studies and chapter books, too. Have fun!
@@heidib.4089 Thanks for your reply Heidi. I’ll look into those, I’ve heard of Wordly Wise but never looked into it, so thanks! We tried another vocabulary program once but it was middle school level and it seemed fine, until she was reading the comprehension pages and it was all football references and using the words in the construct of the different players positions. And she was lost. Because the words were too hard? No. Because she’s never heard of football, yep! Lol! It is absolutely a challenge. She has some higher level curriculum for it’s challenge and fast pace (Climbing to Good English, Pathway Readers, Saxon math), while she has other curriculum that she can complete the entire weeks assignments in 20 minutes (Evan-Moor, Lightning Literature), but she loves it because she gets to color and do word puzzles. 😉🥰 So matching her with curriculum has been a huge challenge. She does Saxon 54 and is halfway through the book. But she also does a computer program to make sure she knows the “national curriculum” and she loves it because at the end of the lesson she gets a sticker on the screen. I need someone to invent a challenging curriculum, that has rainbows and color pages. 😉 And before you say it, we tried TG&TB and she hated it, too much fluff and too slow, even at the higher levels. Which is so ironic because there’s lots of colors there! 😉 Anyway, thank you again! :)
@@Gojuninja enjoy your journey together! MP, at all grades are doing ‘the classics’ at grade level - as much as I like the vocabulary books for quick consumption I do appreciate the value in learning vocabulary in context, married into a story or character (whether a lovely one or a bad guy!) or location as it seems to give the language a deeper meaning which enriches the soil of their imagination while slowly growing their endurance muscles to read harder literature every year. MP has previews of all their literature guides, classical, religious, and science class workbooks to check out and I am still so impressed with the amount of depth they go into for mastery of language daily over a wide array of subjects. My 13 year old does MP and last fall she took the Stanford Test and placed post-high school in her comp and vocabulary. I think what I find most impressive with MP is that it has taught her an appreciation of quality literature and she has, on her own, kept a common book of a collection of her favorite phrases/descriptions/quotations from her readings because she loves the words for their beauty as well. Not the education I received as a child but I am so thankful that we are all given so many opportunities today!
I liked the comment about many parents choosing Memoria Press because of the literature. That's exactly why we did! We got the catalogs a year ago and have been poring over them. I even made my kids' reading lists off of the catalog. Comparing those good books with the garbage they came home from school with was the final clincher!
I really appreciate these upper grade discussions, thank you.
This was perfection. Thank you both so much for doing this as I was one of the mamas who requested it. Carrie, I am preparing an email to send to you. I have my new catalog and my notepad. I have some questions and I need help with a big picture plan so I can see our end in sight. I can’t wait to receive feedback and get my order ready 🙏🏾💞
This was over too soon! Thanks for the fun conversation. And just to note: the scene is Anna Karenina when Levin is working in the field -- that was a big one for me, too.
8th
The Wind in the Willows: I thought this book was 4th grade reading level. Wouldn’t 8th graders find it too easy?
Tom Sawyer: What is a good argument as to why students should read this book?
Shakespeare: What plays are the students reading in 7th grade to have a foundation for reading plays with more difficult/older language in 8th grade?
11th and 12th
Divine Comedy: Standard middle school reading in Italy. Why wait until 11th grade?
Anna Karentina: Not the best Tolstoy but not the easiest either. What Tolstoy have the students read to prepare them for this book?
Hi, when you both were talking about Shakespeare, and that obtaining books with good footnotes to help with the vocabulary was so important. You made me wonder, is there a vocabulary program that would prepare young students for reading these classics? My daughter is very young, 6 years old, is doing fourth grade reading and fifth grade math. I’m making her read Pathway Reader Grade 4 just to increase her reading skill and vocabulary. She has a nearly photographic memory with everything except numbers. She tells me it doesn’t work with numbers. 😉 So if you had a child who could simply read a vocabulary book and absorb it, what would you recommend to help expand her vocabulary and prepare her for the classics?
Thank you :) Josey
6 years old! That is so cool! What a challenge! I thought of the “Worldly Wise” and “Vocabulary from Classical Roots” program but my daughter is currently doing the 8th grade work in Memoria Press and MP has an incredible amount of vocabulary in their Classical Studies and chapter books, too. Have fun!
@@heidib.4089 Thanks for your reply Heidi. I’ll look into those, I’ve heard of Wordly Wise but never looked into it, so thanks! We tried another vocabulary program once but it was middle school level and it seemed fine, until she was reading the comprehension pages and it was all football references and using the words in the construct of the different players positions. And she was lost. Because the words were too hard? No. Because she’s never heard of football, yep! Lol!
It is absolutely a challenge. She has some higher level curriculum for it’s challenge and fast pace (Climbing to Good English, Pathway Readers, Saxon math), while she has other curriculum that she can complete the entire weeks assignments in 20 minutes (Evan-Moor, Lightning Literature), but she loves it because she gets to color and do word puzzles. 😉🥰 So matching her with curriculum has been a huge challenge. She does Saxon 54 and is halfway through the book. But she also does a computer program to make sure she knows the “national curriculum” and she loves it because at the end of the lesson she gets a sticker on the screen.
I need someone to invent a challenging curriculum, that has rainbows and color pages. 😉 And before you say it, we tried TG&TB and she hated it, too much fluff and too slow, even at the higher levels. Which is so ironic because there’s lots of colors there! 😉
Anyway, thank you again! :)
@@Gojuninja enjoy your journey together! MP, at all grades are doing ‘the classics’ at grade level - as much as I like the vocabulary books for quick consumption I do appreciate the value in learning vocabulary in context, married into a story or character (whether a lovely one or a bad guy!) or location as it seems to give the language a deeper meaning which enriches the soil of their imagination while slowly growing their endurance muscles to read harder literature every year. MP has previews of all their literature guides, classical, religious, and science class workbooks to check out and I am still so impressed with the amount of depth they go into for mastery of language daily over a wide array of subjects. My 13 year old does MP and last fall she took the Stanford Test and placed post-high school in her comp and vocabulary. I think what I find most impressive with MP is that it has taught her an appreciation of quality literature and she has, on her own, kept a common book of a collection of her favorite phrases/descriptions/quotations from her readings because she loves the words for their beauty as well. Not the education I received as a child but I am so thankful that we are all given so many opportunities today!