Jesus taught Nicodemus in John 3 that except a man be born of water and of the spirit (unless a person is baptized and receives the gift of the Holy Ghost) he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Some people die without ever having that opportunity, so Paul is explaining that there were people in his day who were being baptized for those dead people because they knew they would need a baptism when they were resurrected. The practice of doing proxy baptisms for your deceased ancestors is still used today in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have had the privilege of doing many proxy baptisms for my deceased ancestors and it has been a wonderful experience. I’m grateful that Paul preserved a record of this practice so we would know that we need to be doing it in our day just like they were doing it in his day. If you have questions about it, I would love to try to answer those questions for you.
What if the practice of being baptized on behalf of those who did not have the opportunity to do so in this life was really something practiced in the ancient church?
How are you, Alfonso? Yes, there are ancient church practices regarding penal substitution. However, the Bible does not support such an atonement. We cannot save others as humans because we are also sinful by nature; we must rely on Jesus as our substitute in order to be saved.
@@BibleHelpDeskShow I know what you mean. Ultimately Jesus Christ holds the power to Atone and save us. But what I am saying is this. He gives us power to baptize the living. We stand in His stead when we perform this ordinance. We become His hands as we do anything in His church. Like a proxy. When people pray, He sends us as an answer to those prayers. I am just also thinking of the keys Jesus gave Peter to bind on earth and it shall be bound in heaven. Baptism for the dead would be such a beautiful illustration of this great statement. If you had the choice, would you want to be able to do ordinances for your ancestors who has past away without the opportunity to have them? The law seems quite rigid. Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Thanks for opening this dialogue with me. I appreciate it.
Hi, Alfonso, Certainly not. Once people are dead then that's it. We cannot do anything for the dead, as they have already been judged as to where their soul will be when Jesus returns. Our main mission now is to evangelized the living and baptized them in the names of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
@@BibleHelpDeskShow I understand what you are saying. How then will those people be judged? Especially those who died without knowing Christ. Just wondering what your take is on that
Hi, Alfonso? Without a doubt, God has a way to judge them, and He should be the one to do so. Remember that in Romans 2:14-16, it states that "the law was written on their hearts," referring to Gentiles who lack a law. Even if some people have never heard of Jesus or His commandments, they have discovered a way to live in accordance with God's will.
I agree that we are baptized into a living faith and not a dead faith, but I do not think that this is the meaning of this verse. The term "dead" is being used a noun here and not an adjective. It is describing those who have actually died. The context does matter here as Paul is using "baptisms for the dead" as evidence of the Lord's resurrection. This means that this practice is well enough accepted to be a solid reason for believing in the resurrection. We can compare this to Paul's teachings in Romans 6:3-5 where he preaches about baptism. There he describes as being baptized into Jesus' death not being baptized on behalf of/for the dead. These are two different types of baptism being described. Both baptisms testify of the Lord's resurrection and give us hope for our resurrection through Him! Here is my standard response to this verse. The whole purpose of 1 Corinthians 15 is to testify of bodily resurrection and that without the resurrection faith in Christ is vain. Paul first gives eye witnesses to Jesus' bodily resurrection. Verses 5-8. ( how amazing would it have been to be in that group where he appeared to 500 people at once!) He then gives theological reasons why Jesus was resurrected. 1. Verse 17 - Christ's resurrection is evidence of his ability to take us out of sin and forgive our sins. 2. Verses 21-22 By Adam came death, by Christ comes resurrection, all we be resurrected because of Christ 3. Verse 25-26 Jesus will conquer all enemies, the last of which to be conquered is death. Thirdly, he testifies that the very ordinances they perform testify of Jesus' resurrection and our eventual resurrection. Verse 29: What shall they do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not at all? Paul is using baptisms for the dead as further evidence that Jesus was resurrected and we will all be resurrected. Verses 30-31 Paul risks his life preaching Jesus because of his hope in the resurrection. Paul would not be pointing outside of Christianity for evidences of Jesus resurrection. Baptism is a Christian ordinance. Therefore I conclude that it was the early Christians performing baptisms for the dead. Paul did not need to command them in his epistle to practice baptism for the dead because he had stayed in Corinth and taught it to them while he lived there.
A better way to understand it is like this. If you use a proper translation of the verse and use proper context in the chapter when it talks about the dead being raised you can see that this is the same thing Paul was saying in Romans 6 and Colossians 2... 1 Cor. 15.29 GW However, people are baptized because the dead ⌞will come back to life⌟. What will they do? If the dead can’t come back to life, why do people get baptized as if they can ⌞come back to life⌟? Romans 6:3-5 Don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 When we were baptized into his death, we were placed into the tomb with him. As Christ was brought back from death to life by the glorious power of the Father, so we, too, should live a new kind of life. 5 If we’ve become united with him in a death like his, certainly we will also be united with him when we come back to life as he did. Colossians 2:11 This happened when you were placed in the tomb with Christ through baptism. In baptism you were also brought back to life with Christ through faith in the power of God, who brought him back to life.
I’m sorry but I disagree with the GW translation of this verse. I have watched several videos of scholars discussing this verse, and looked through the Greek lexicon, and that translation doesn’t seem to be true to the lexicon or what other scholars say about this verse. The Greek word ὑπὲρ (hyper) means on behalf of or for. This is the same word that is used in Romans 5:8 "Christ died 'for' us" Romans 8:27 "he maketh intercession 'for' the saints" 1 Corinthians 15:3 "that Christ died 'for' our sins" 2 Corinthians 5:21 "him [to be] sin 'for' us," 1 Corinthians 15:29 "which are baptized 'for' the dead," Given the other verses that use this word I think it is inaccurate to say that this could be translated as "because the dead will come back to life". I believe this is proxy baptism 'for' the dead. If the dead cannot accept the Gospel then why did Christ preach between the time of his death and ressurrection? See 1 Peter 3:18-20 and 1 Peter 4:6. For a complete biblical perspective on this, I recommend "Salvation For the Dead: Biblical Second Chance Theology (Arimasa Kubo)" here on youtube. Edit: I had put the word 'for' in bold, but apparently TH-cam doesn't like that.
@@seanwilson2798 I'm sorry you feel this way but my interpretation aligns with the bible 100% while yours in no where else mentioned in scriptures. I do not trust so-called "biblical scholars" with pre-set notions that cannot tie scripture with scripture. Greek is no easy thing to translate into English as well as ideas plus you have to take from a Greek translation the Jewish mindset and understanding of Paul who was trained a Pharasee under Gamelio (my best attempt at spelling, sorry if its incorrect)... lots of dynamics to consider there. As for your question of Why did Christ preach between the time of his death and resurrection is simple. Hell, Greek-hades... same as Hebrew-sheol, the grave or place of departed souls, Jesus went to release the saints of the old testament through the victory of the gospel. Not that they were in torment but kept in a state of rest. They were alive and aware but confined in this place of Abraham's bosom until Jesus freed them. Sinners were kept in a place of torment and separation in the same place, just a different area (see the story of Lazarus and the rich man.) Matthew even records that amsaints of old were resurrected and seen in the streets. This, however, has no connection to 1 Corinthians 15. Roman's 6:3-10 does. Thank you for your critique
@@slonekettering7447 I think it is clear that the baptism that Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 15 is not the same baptism as mentioned in Romans 6. One cannot equate the preposition “into” with “for” or on “on behalf of”. You did not rebut my analysis. You said Greek is hard and I don’t believe that is biblical so I won’t accept it. I gave clear examples of Paul using this word and how those tie into the understanding of the scripture. As for 1 Peter 3, it specifically says “preached unto the spirits in prison, Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” Peter clarified that these people hearing the gospel were not the righteous awaiting the reunion of their bodies and spirits but the wicked who had rejected Noah. As for basing practice off a single verse of scripture, I agree with you that it is risky to put more weight on just one verse. You probably guessed I’m a Latter Day Saint. It is important to clarify that we do not base our practice of baptism for the dead off this scripture. Joseph Smith received revelation from God recorded in Doctrine and Covenants 127 and 128. It is from those scriptures that we base our practice, not a single verse in the Bible. But this verse in the Bible is evidence that this precise was done anciently. The TH-cam video I commented is not from a Latter Day Saint but a Japanese pastor who explains how the Bible teaches redemption from the dead. It is worth listening to.
Let me clarify a little more, I do believe that the GW translation is teaching a true principle. I affirm that people are baptized because the dead will come back to life. However, as previously mentioned, I don’t think this is what Paul is trying to say in this verse given his specific word choice. It is a true principle but not an accurate translation.
Baptism, being essential for salvation (Mark 16:16), then what about all those who never even heard the name of Jesus Christ, much less had the opportunity to accept him as their Savior? God, being just, had to have a means for giving all of his children the chance, has a plan. 1 Peter 3:18-21 & 4:6. When a person dies whithout the opportunity, they are taught in the Spirit World before judgement. If they accept Jesus they still need baptism and that is where 1 Corinthians 15:29 comes in. Yes, Paul is using this practice to support his teaching on the resurrection but also reveals that the ancient Saints baptised for the dead.
Dear Gary Johnson, I disagree with your statement, because: (1) Paul didn't write about baptism for death to any other church, or speak no-where, (2) Above all Jesus or any other Apostle didn't say or write anything about it (3) 1Corinthians Chapter 15 deals fully about Resurrection of Jesus Christ, so we can't build A doctrine based on one Word, when any other words doesn't teach Baptism for Death. (4) Mark 16:16 - Baptism or any other (Good Works) is not condition for Salvation, Repent and Faith on Christ is the only condition for Salvation. (5) 1 Peter 3:18-21. Jesus didn't preach the Gospel to the spirit and called them to repent & to believe in Jesus. But declare the Victory on the Cross, Salvation for the Mankind and proof of Resurrection.
Have you ever considered the fact that Paul makes a more powerful case for the resurrection because the practice of baptisms for the dead was performed? Otherwise why are they then baptised if the dead rise no more? I am just asking.
@@alfonsomosenthal9716That is exactly why he was referencing baptism for the dead. He was preaching about the resurrection and asking the Saints of his day why they were baptising for the dead if there was not a resurrection; which thet did not believe in. Obviously, baptism for the dead was a practice among the Saint at that time.
That's not biblical. There's no being taught in the spirit world cause there's no spirit world. It's easy for mormons to deny the Bible cause when you deny the Bible its easy to teach anything. Plus we are asleep until the trumpet.
This concept of getting baptized for dead is an end time revelation. Please don't jump into conclusions with the traditional teachings. 1) please read Ezekiel 47 : 8,9 Then he said to me: "This water flows toward the eastern region,...and enters the sea (Dead sea) its waters are healed.....and everything will live wherever the river goes. Imagine our Born again Spirit is the temple of the LORD, a River of Living waters i.e HOLY SPIRIT began to flow from the temple toward east, that is our Soul, the Dead sea is our physical body. If we walk along with the River of Living waters i.e HOLY SPIRIT, our Mind/ Soul will be renewed. If we can walk further and confess our old sin nature and offer our bodies as living sacrifice, GOD the HOLY SPIRIT will reach our mortal body which is referred as Dead sea. Then the prophet says, everything will live wherever the river goes. Our body is a burial ground where all the memories of forefathers are buried. Sinful, dead nature of our forefathers was imprinted on each and every cell. When River of Living waters enter these cells the sinful nature will be cleansed. Our dead fore fathers will come to life. I was there within my father and forefathers, even in Adam when they were committing sin (Hebrews 7 10). So, I can repent and get baptized for dead and they will be raised from the dead. But it's not my merit. Only because of Death, Burial and Resurrection of our LORD it comes to pass. Sorry for all the grammar mistakes 😔 😪 But this truth/mystery should be revealed to the Universal Church.
What a misrepresentation of the Scriptures? These people will make their own story out of the Scriptures and put it forward to others as truth!! These people are dangerous!!!
Paul is not speaking of either dead faith or living faith. He is talking about a group of people who were being baptized for the dead...They were baptized with a hope that, the dead will raise to life, if they were baptized on behalf of the dead. We have to stick on to this topic.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. wrong! Paul suffers for preaching there is a resurrection. Paul asks why should I continue to suffer for preaching there is a resurrection when some of you are saying there is no resurrection?
How is it that you have a PhD and dont know crap about this topic?!? Baptism for the dead was done in the early church and restored again in these last days as part of the "restirution of ALL things" that Peter prophesied in Acts 3:19! READ this statement from the world renoun Interpreters Bible commentary, which is contributed to by more than 900 scholars, states about this: "1 Corinthians 15:29 Baptism for the dead, that rapture of the cosmos, Paul turns to an intersting item of church practice in Corinth snd probaly elsewhere too and uses it to reinforce his main point...",!!!
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Jesus taught Nicodemus in John 3 that except a man be born of water and of the spirit (unless a person is baptized and receives the gift of the Holy Ghost) he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Some people die without ever having that opportunity, so Paul is explaining that there were people in his day who were being baptized for those dead people because they knew they would need a baptism when they were resurrected. The practice of doing proxy baptisms for your deceased ancestors is still used today in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have had the privilege of doing many proxy baptisms for my deceased ancestors and it has been a wonderful experience. I’m grateful that Paul preserved a record of this practice so we would know that we need to be doing it in our day just like they were doing it in his day. If you have questions about it, I would love to try to answer those questions for you.
What if the practice of being baptized on behalf of those who did not have the opportunity to do so in this life was really something practiced in the ancient church?
How are you, Alfonso? Yes, there are ancient church practices regarding penal substitution. However, the Bible does not support such an atonement. We cannot save others as humans because we are also sinful by nature; we must rely on Jesus as our substitute in order to be saved.
@@BibleHelpDeskShow I know what you mean. Ultimately Jesus Christ holds the power to Atone and save us. But what I am saying is this. He gives us power to baptize the living. We stand in His stead when we perform this ordinance. We become His hands as we do anything in His church. Like a proxy. When people pray, He sends us as an answer to those prayers. I am just also thinking of the keys Jesus gave Peter to bind on earth and it shall be bound in heaven. Baptism for the dead would be such a beautiful illustration of this great statement. If you had the choice, would you want to be able to do ordinances for your ancestors who has past away without the opportunity to have them? The law seems quite rigid. Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Thanks for opening this dialogue with me. I appreciate it.
Hi, Alfonso, Certainly not. Once people are dead then that's it. We cannot do anything for the dead, as they have already been judged as to where their soul will be when Jesus returns. Our main mission now is to evangelized the living and baptized them in the names of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
@@BibleHelpDeskShow I understand what you are saying. How then will those people be judged? Especially those who died without knowing Christ. Just wondering what your take is on that
Hi, Alfonso? Without a doubt, God has a way to judge them, and He should be the one to do so. Remember that in Romans 2:14-16, it states that "the law was written on their hearts," referring to Gentiles who lack a law. Even if some people have never heard of Jesus or His commandments, they have discovered a way to live in accordance with God's will.
I agree that we are baptized into a living faith and not a dead faith, but I do not think that this is the meaning of this verse. The term "dead" is being used a noun here and not an adjective. It is describing those who have actually died. The context does matter here as Paul is using "baptisms for the dead" as evidence of the Lord's resurrection. This means that this practice is well enough accepted to be a solid reason for believing in the resurrection.
We can compare this to Paul's teachings in Romans 6:3-5 where he preaches about baptism. There he describes as being baptized into Jesus' death not being baptized on behalf of/for the dead. These are two different types of baptism being described. Both baptisms testify of the Lord's resurrection and give us hope for our resurrection through Him!
Here is my standard response to this verse.
The whole purpose of 1 Corinthians 15 is to testify of bodily resurrection and that without the resurrection faith in Christ is vain.
Paul first gives eye witnesses to Jesus' bodily resurrection. Verses 5-8. ( how amazing would it have been to be in that group where he appeared to 500 people at once!)
He then gives theological reasons why Jesus was resurrected.
1. Verse 17 - Christ's resurrection is evidence of his ability to take us out of sin and forgive our sins.
2. Verses 21-22 By Adam came death, by Christ comes resurrection, all we be resurrected because of Christ
3. Verse 25-26 Jesus will conquer all enemies, the last of which to be conquered is death.
Thirdly, he testifies that the very ordinances they perform testify of Jesus' resurrection and our eventual resurrection. Verse 29: What shall they do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not at all? Paul is using baptisms for the dead as further evidence that Jesus was resurrected and we will all be resurrected.
Verses 30-31 Paul risks his life preaching Jesus because of his hope in the resurrection.
Paul would not be pointing outside of Christianity for evidences of Jesus resurrection. Baptism is a Christian ordinance. Therefore I conclude that it was the early Christians performing baptisms for the dead. Paul did not need to command them in his epistle to practice baptism for the dead because he had stayed in Corinth and taught it to them while he lived there.
So Helpful! Thank you for this.
You're so welcome, Kenny.
This is something that was lost in the famine Amos talked about, and had to be restored.
Thanks for your comment. Blessings!
A better way to understand it is like this. If you use a proper translation of the verse and use proper context in the chapter when it talks about the dead being raised you can see that this is the same thing Paul was saying in Romans 6 and Colossians 2...
1 Cor. 15.29 GW
However, people are baptized because the dead ⌞will come back to life⌟. What will they do? If the dead can’t come back to life, why do people get baptized as if they can ⌞come back to life⌟?
Romans 6:3-5
Don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 When we were baptized into his death, we were placed into the tomb with him. As Christ was brought back from death to life by the glorious power of the Father, so we, too, should live a new kind of life. 5 If we’ve become united with him in a death like his, certainly we will also be united with him when we come back to life as he did.
Colossians 2:11
This happened when you were placed in the tomb with Christ through baptism. In baptism you were also brought back to life with Christ through faith in the power of God, who brought him back to life.
I’m sorry but I disagree with the GW translation of this verse. I have watched several videos of scholars discussing this verse, and looked through the Greek lexicon, and that translation doesn’t seem to be true to the lexicon or what other scholars say about this verse. The Greek word ὑπὲρ (hyper) means on behalf of or for.
This is the same word that is used in
Romans 5:8 "Christ died 'for' us"
Romans 8:27 "he maketh intercession 'for' the saints"
1 Corinthians 15:3 "that Christ died 'for' our sins"
2 Corinthians 5:21 "him [to be] sin 'for' us,"
1 Corinthians 15:29 "which are baptized 'for' the dead,"
Given the other verses that use this word I think it is inaccurate to say that this could be translated as "because the dead will come back to life". I believe this is proxy baptism 'for' the dead.
If the dead cannot accept the Gospel then why did Christ preach between the time of his death and ressurrection? See 1 Peter 3:18-20 and 1 Peter 4:6.
For a complete biblical perspective on this, I recommend "Salvation For the Dead: Biblical Second Chance Theology (Arimasa Kubo)" here on youtube.
Edit: I had put the word 'for' in bold, but apparently TH-cam doesn't like that.
@@seanwilson2798 I'm sorry you feel this way but my interpretation aligns with the bible 100% while yours in no where else mentioned in scriptures. I do not trust so-called "biblical scholars" with pre-set notions that cannot tie scripture with scripture. Greek is no easy thing to translate into English as well as ideas plus you have to take from a Greek translation the Jewish mindset and understanding of Paul who was trained a Pharasee under Gamelio (my best attempt at spelling, sorry if its incorrect)... lots of dynamics to consider there. As for your question of Why did Christ preach between the time of his death and resurrection is simple. Hell, Greek-hades... same as Hebrew-sheol, the grave or place of departed souls, Jesus went to release the saints of the old testament through the victory of the gospel. Not that they were in torment but kept in a state of rest. They were alive and aware but confined in this place of Abraham's bosom until Jesus freed them. Sinners were kept in a place of torment and separation in the same place, just a different area (see the story of Lazarus and the rich man.) Matthew even records that amsaints of old were resurrected and seen in the streets. This, however, has no connection to 1 Corinthians 15. Roman's 6:3-10 does.
Thank you for your critique
@@slonekettering7447
I think it is clear that the baptism that Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 15 is not the same baptism as mentioned in Romans 6. One cannot equate the preposition “into” with “for” or on “on behalf of”.
You did not rebut my analysis. You said Greek is hard and I don’t believe that is biblical so I won’t accept it. I gave clear examples of Paul using this word and how those tie into the understanding of the scripture.
As for 1 Peter 3, it specifically says “preached unto the spirits in prison, Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” Peter clarified that these people hearing the gospel were not the righteous awaiting the reunion of their bodies and spirits but the wicked who had rejected Noah.
As for basing practice off a single verse of scripture, I agree with you that it is risky to put more weight on just one verse. You probably guessed I’m a Latter Day Saint. It is important to clarify that we do not base our practice of baptism for the dead off this scripture. Joseph Smith received revelation from God recorded in Doctrine and Covenants 127 and 128. It is from those scriptures that we base our practice, not a single verse in the Bible. But this verse in the Bible is evidence that this precise was done anciently.
The TH-cam video I commented is not from a Latter Day Saint but a Japanese pastor who explains how the Bible teaches redemption from the dead. It is worth listening to.
Let me clarify a little more, I do believe that the GW translation is teaching a true principle. I affirm that people are baptized because the dead will come back to life. However, as previously mentioned, I don’t think this is what Paul is trying to say in this verse given his specific word choice. It is a true principle but not an accurate translation.
Baptism, being essential for salvation (Mark 16:16), then what about all those who never even heard the name of Jesus Christ, much less had the opportunity to accept him as their Savior? God, being just, had to have a means for giving all of his children the chance, has a plan. 1 Peter 3:18-21 & 4:6. When a person dies whithout the opportunity, they are taught in the Spirit World before judgement. If they accept Jesus they still need baptism and that is where 1 Corinthians 15:29 comes in. Yes, Paul is using this practice to support his teaching on the resurrection but also reveals that the ancient Saints baptised for the dead.
Dear Gary Johnson, I disagree with your statement, because:
(1) Paul didn't write about baptism for death to any other church, or speak no-where,
(2) Above all Jesus or any other Apostle didn't say or write anything about it
(3) 1Corinthians Chapter 15 deals fully about Resurrection of Jesus Christ, so we can't build
A doctrine based on one Word, when any other words doesn't teach Baptism for Death.
(4) Mark 16:16 - Baptism or any other (Good Works) is not condition for Salvation,
Repent and Faith on Christ is the only condition for Salvation.
(5) 1 Peter 3:18-21. Jesus didn't preach the Gospel to the spirit and called them to repent & to believe in Jesus.
But declare the Victory on the Cross, Salvation for the Mankind and proof of Resurrection.
Have you ever considered the fact that Paul makes a more powerful case for the resurrection because the practice of baptisms for the dead was performed? Otherwise why are they then baptised if the dead rise no more? I am just asking.
@@alfonsomosenthal9716That is exactly why he was referencing baptism for the dead. He was preaching about the resurrection and asking the Saints of his day why they were baptising for the dead if there was not a resurrection; which thet did not believe in. Obviously, baptism for the dead was a practice among the Saint at that time.
@@garyjohnson8026 I agree. :)
That's not biblical. There's no being taught in the spirit world cause there's no spirit world. It's easy for mormons to deny the Bible cause when you deny the Bible its easy to teach anything. Plus we are asleep until the trumpet.
Thanks man of God
Well answered
Well explained n thank you
Well said
Not a scholarly opinion.
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This concept of getting baptized for dead is an end time revelation. Please don't jump into conclusions with the traditional teachings.
1) please read Ezekiel 47 : 8,9
Then he said to me: "This water flows toward the eastern region,...and enters the sea (Dead sea) its waters are healed.....and everything will live wherever the river goes.
Imagine our Born again Spirit is the temple of the LORD, a River of Living waters i.e HOLY SPIRIT began to flow from the temple toward east, that is our Soul, the Dead sea is our physical body.
If we walk along with the River of Living waters i.e HOLY SPIRIT, our Mind/ Soul will be renewed.
If we can walk further and confess our old sin nature and offer our bodies as living sacrifice, GOD the HOLY SPIRIT will reach our mortal body which is referred as Dead sea. Then the prophet says, everything will live wherever the river goes.
Our body is a burial ground where all the memories of forefathers are buried. Sinful, dead nature of our forefathers was imprinted on each and every cell.
When River of Living waters enter these cells the sinful nature will be cleansed. Our dead fore fathers will come to life.
I was there within my father and forefathers, even in Adam when they were committing sin (Hebrews 7 10). So, I can repent and get baptized for dead and they will be raised from the dead. But it's not my merit. Only because of Death, Burial and Resurrection of our LORD it comes to pass.
Sorry for all the grammar mistakes 😔 😪
But this truth/mystery should be revealed to the Universal Church.
What a misrepresentation of the Scriptures? These people will make their own story out of the Scriptures and put it forward to others as truth!! These people are dangerous!!!
Paul is not speaking of either dead faith or living faith. He is talking about a group of people who were being baptized for the dead...They were baptized with a hope that, the dead will raise to life, if they were baptized on behalf of the dead.
We have to stick on to this topic.
@@mannatodaykumarkondaveeti1984 Wrong!
@Manna today kumarkondaveeti You have no foundation for what you write.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. wrong! Paul suffers for preaching there is a resurrection. Paul asks why should I continue to suffer for preaching there is a resurrection when some of you are saying there is no resurrection?
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, you didn't address his points or even the topic of conversation. LOL
How is it that you have a PhD and dont know crap about this topic?!? Baptism for the dead was done in the early church and restored again in these last days as part of the "restirution of ALL things" that Peter prophesied in Acts 3:19! READ this statement from the world renoun Interpreters Bible commentary, which is contributed to by more than 900 scholars, states about this: "1 Corinthians 15:29 Baptism for the dead, that rapture of the cosmos, Paul turns to an intersting item of church practice in Corinth snd probaly elsewhere too and uses it to reinforce his main point...",!!!