Good learning! I have a project this summer that has some large limbs hanging way out.... so seeing how you rigged things to control the fall and sweep was definitely helpful!
Thanks Christian! Patience is everything in this industry. Every accident story I hear seems to start with "we were in a rush..." I've made the mistake of rushing too many times and I try my best to avoid it.
Enjoyed the video. Double Rigging. I use it some. It's the third step in control rigging. First you have a rigging rope set up to control drop. Second, if necessary, you add a tagline to control movement of rigged piece. Finally, in difficult situations like you had, with big limbs over house targets, you add a second rigging setup to float picks away to safe landing. Very nice. Helps to have really good rope men on the ground. Thanks for sharing. Super job.
Mine too! There are three kinds of climbers I think. Those who like the climbing, those who like making the cuts and free falling stuff, amd those who like rigging.
Zack, you are a great teacher and explain your actions so the process is easy to understand. Making a 'flower' from the cones makes great sense so you can see the light pole. Blessings to you.
@billroberts3864 Aw thanks Bill. I just want to share the things I've learned as much as I can. I learned a lot by watching others here. Hoping to pass the favor forward.
Great job. thank you for all the explanations. Personally, I'd love to see the climbing and set up, not just the cutting. It's so helpful to watch the process of putting the rigging lines and blocks in place and to watch how you move around the trees.
I hear you there! I'll focus that when I get a tree that will make a good example. This weekend's video will focus specifically on block placement in the canopy. Might be worth watching if that's your area of interest.
The rope stretch on that chunck was wild. Really made me think about sticking with only one brand/model for designated purposes to be able to understand/ predict better what it's going to do in each situation. Thanks for the post, great teamwork! Happy Easter Romans 8:11
Yes, it caught me by suprise. That was a brand new 12 strand rope too. I think they tend to have a little more stretch until they get broken in. I do much of my work with double braid.
My only suggestion would be to fishpole the green line below you to prevent any fouling as the pieces are dumped into the rigging. (First and second pieces noticeably got into it.)
@@zaccheus One would likely be sufficient, as long as it was near the point where the rope was the farthest out. It worked perfectly as you did it, but there was potential for fouling. I try to avoid a piece coming in contact with the first line when transitioning to the second line. If/when a piece fouls in a scenario like that, it can ruin the transfer, making it necessary to lower with both lines, negating the whole point of the setup.
Excellent videos as usual. I was curious about what you were going to do for that, and I’m impressed and will use this setup next time I run into this situation. Thanks brother!
Thanks man! I was hoping someone would see that 😅 it's slightly controversial because everything still connect to you through one bridge or two bridges that are close together 🤷♂️
Happy Easter! Great vid! I’ve done this technique several times before and it’s essential on some jobs! I’ll usually use a some sort of friction adding rigging point on the structure side, and a locked off portawrap on the side it’s transferring to and either me or the ground guy can transfer it to the other line.
Happy Easter! I can see how that would work nice. I really dislike running ropes in the tree, so I'm typically happy to just let the groundies do it. I've only done it with heavy wood a few times, but for most small stuff, I cam see how you could do it with a munter hitch or something cheaper than a second portawrap.
@@zaccheus thanks! Yep- having the guys on the ground do it is my preferred method too haha. One thing I like about having the friction point up in the tree on the side that I’m cutting in is the reduced forces on that side, and usually my far side rigging is set up pretty well and doesn’t see any negative forces. That’s that it’s necessary for every tree but something I’ve used a few times before to make the rigging ideal as possible 😄
Awesome video you helped me learn the technique needed to get a job done right hopefully. Ive already cut my leg with the chainsaw on this job which I didn't even feel but it was a learning experience
@@devonblades5346 that’s great! I’m glad the video was helpful. I’m sorry to hear you’ve experienced an injury. I cut my knee year and years ago before I worked in the industry and the bill from getting it stitched up made me realize that the code of chaps or chainsaw pants is worth it. I don’t even start a saw without some leg protection on these days
I'm about 6 months into a arb school in Sweden. Really like these types of videos :) We havn't done any rigging yet, mainly just climbing and handsaw pruning. What is the fastes way of getting the blue riggin rope back to the climber in this situation?
In this situation be tying it onto the green lowering line. In other situations either swinging it back to him if he can swing it or tying onto his climb line and he pulls it up or pulls it over to himself.
That's great, man! If I could do everything over again, I would definitely seek more formal education. Climbing and handsaw pruning is super underrated and is a great place to start. Seems like way too many folks just want to skip that stage of learning. Brandon hit it right on the head with his answer. We just tied the ropes together. The ultimate, end all solution that works for most scenarios, is to have the ground person tie it onto the climbing rope so the climber can pull it up. It's slow and tedious, but it works if nothing else does... most of the time 😅
Happy Easter Bill! Yes it was! I went into buy some double braid because that is my favorite, but true blue was all they had. It does the job, just gotta be a little more gentle with it 😅
Had you considered just an end weight reduction on this limb to reduce the bending moment? Im just curious on the reasoning for the removal cut vs a reduction cut.
@@emiwekwert1646 I’m just a contract climber. By the time I arrive, the salesmen has already done the damage. Were this tree in my yard, I would certainly pursue a multi stage pruning plan to reduce the risk over the house rather than leave a huge wound like we did.
Great video brother. Super helpful to show my new helpers some of what rigging we may be doing. Good for them to see it from the aerial climber perspective -- bc their job is so important to keep everything safe & undamaged. I know hindsight is always clearer, but would suggest you throw down some plywood or terrain mats on sidewalk & possibly lawn grass to avoid the dips created by heavy smashing wood
That's great! I'm glad to hear that you can use the video in that way. I've been trying to make some short and better focused videos for easy sharing recently. Gotta make that time in the truck count! Thays an excellent idea. I didn't suggest it to my client because the lawn really wasn't too soft, but in hindsight it would have been a little better for things.
Zach, nice job as usual. Just to show you nurseries when they grow trees will sell anything that tree should have had that limb pruned off 40 years ago with a hand pruner. As for the lamp post light, I always remove the lamp head where possible. Happy Easter
Yeah, even could have been planted in a different orientation 😅 That's an excellent thought. I think we looked into that but the whole thing was made with an old wooded porch pole and looked pretty fragile.
Yea, I have had to replace some of those old posts before. Employee drags a limb by a post like that, and it gets knocked over because it is totally rotten at the base of the post. From experience, I'll, at minimum, remove light fixture. I have, even in the past, built a wood structure around high-end targets below the work zone. Once again, you do great work.
My biggest concern, looking at this through the phone screen, is rigging off of that long skinny stem overhanging the house, that your also tied into woth your strop. Were you not concerned about the whole stem falling on the house when dropping those limbs, or were the branches not really heavy enough to be a problem? I mean obviously they weren't because the stem didnt fail and there was no issue 😂 from my pov i wouldve been tempted to put a line on that stem locked off to make double sure it wouldnt fail. Top job, and great explination and direction, thank you!
@@terryrich4285 I like it a lot. It’s not going to beat a 201 by any means, but I think it’s probably the best value top handle electric saw out on the market right now.
Zaccheus are you limb walking to get out on those limbs and tie all that stuff or just sort of pulling yourself out there and lanyarding off with the limbs about chest height? Thanks! Awesome video! Your crazy high up there man! Way above those 2 story houses.
@@RC-Heli835 it was nearly a year ago and I’m not sure I remember. I think I ascended to my thin point and then had the grounders pull me over to the stem I was working on and then spiked my way up to the top of it. I might have set two ropes too.
Nice rigging! Were you using 2 porta wraps? I’ve done something similar and run a Speedline to send it out and the portawrap to lower the load. I’ll lock the Speedline off and wrap it around something. I’ll keep this in mind for the next one over a house!
Hey absolutely something to keep including as you see a correlation to the video..."Another tree facts with Zach". Don't know about anyone else but it would have been nice to see the ground person perspective when running/lowering at the portawrap. Great stuff buddy, as always.
Haha, I'll do my best to be on the lookout out for more tree facts 😂 Thats really good to know. Do you think a helmet cam would work well or more like a camera on a tripod?
probably a camera on a tripod. I say that because I would believe the ground person would be focused on the climber cutting, so their view would be "everywhere". Maybe try both just once to see what comes across best @@zaccheus
I was thinking when you were in that top. Maybe you could do a video discussing how gaffs work when you are on the top side vs low side of an angled branch. The westcoast guys with their straight trees make it look too easy.
I considered that. It might have worked and could have been faster. I use that technique when I can. The transfer system allows for more precision and allows us to lower the limb all the way over at one side if the system where traditional span rigging lowers in the center or slightly biased to the fixed side.
Did you leave the yellow line in the red pulley and slide it down the trunk as you progressed Or did you take the rope out and re-install the pulley every time
The block is on an ultra sling so I have to take the rope out of the block. But the block opens and closes very easily so it's still faster than leaving the block on the rope and using a dead eye sling.
Hey, I've climbed in MN. Nice area for sure. Thanks! They used the lift to get some stuff over the road. I set all the rigging and got dead wood out wherever the lift could reach.
Thanks! No, this was just a contract climb like all of my tree work is these days. It was for a really good company that I really enjoy working for though.
Love those little Milwaukee saws although they scare me a bit 😅 Always prefer a gas if I can but this is great for this situation and limbing easy stuff on ground
@@zaccheus I've seen that they don't stop on cut-stop fabric. They rip right through it and keep going. Also, I've heard that the hand brake tends to break on some models, leaving it in the cut position.
@ I have seen the chain brake not work. It’s a dirt build up issue. If the saws are kept clean, it can’t happen. If you start checking, I think you find that most chaps and chainsaw pants warn that they are not rated for electric saws. It’s kind left me wonder what the industry will do about that.
What would this tree removal cost? Have a similar situation in MA and want to know what is fair and what isn't. I know theres a lot that goes into it ie. equipment, insurance, labor, etc. Thanks.
Yes it is. It's not my favorite. I like xstatic better, but blue moon is good for drt and srt which is why I got it. It has good hand, it just flattens pretty bad in mechanical devices.
Well done. Nice technique. Also, that looks like an oak. Not sure when you filmed this but you can only prune those in the dormant season, late February being the latest or run the risk of it contracting oak wilt, especially if it's in the red oak family.
This was a little while ago. What's your source on oak wilt season? OSU say we can prune oak trees up until April 15th. I'm not comfortable going that late, so I never do.
@@zaccheus You are correct. Many institutions have through early April as the cutoff. With the mild winters becoming more common and spring arriving earlier due to climate change. that window in my opinion has shrunk . I'm going to a pruning workshop held by Penn State extension tomorrow and I will bring that topic up. I'll pass along any information I get regarding this to you.
@geekay4703 That's a fair thought! I haven't seen any bugs out yet and we still have frost in the forecast, so I didn't feel bad about trimming in March, but that's not using any real data. The last two winters have been a little more mild, but I don't think they're an accurate sample of what is to come 😅
Thank you, William! Happy Easter to you and yours as well! I don't know. I exchanged a couple messages with my on Instagram the other day. I hope everything is well with him. Maybe he had an emergency job late last night and is sleeping in today 🤷♂️
If I was just going to buy one cheap rope just to keep a couple of Limbs from landing on my rotten garage roof what do you think I should do? I would only be up on a ladder not climbing in the tree I don't think and I don't have any other equipment other than you know my little chainsaws
Mmmm that sounds like it has the potential to be a rough situation. Lowering branches with a rope while on a ladder sounds like there might be a lot of potential for Thales limbs to swing and hit you or the ladder. Where are you located? I think you might have told me, but I'm ashamed to say that I can't remember.
@@zaccheus that's part of what I'm thinking and about going out on the limb a little bit the pole saw is very unwieldy because it bends all the time it's like 24 ft long but I might be able to rig up some kind of brace or something where I can sort of rest it on there and just go slowly .....I'm thinking🤔🤣
@zaccheus Alright, With your exp, Ball park, how much would you expect/charge for a job as this. 1.tree trunk in about 10.inch diameter, over the roof. Trunk is about 10.feet from the roof. I believe it's a "live oak" tree. I would really appreciate any input because it's a property I am interested in and it's a big concern of mine. Thanks in advance
@ I do all of my bidding based on the time it will take to get a job done. If I think it’ll take 6 hours, the number I’ll turn in will be how much I need to make an hour times six hours.
Nicely done only thing I would of done differently is maybe find a more permanent spot for the green rope so I would not of had to move it a bunch. But with out seeing the tree in person you probably couldnt find a good spot I bet!
I would agree, that works have been faster and easier. I some think there was much opportunity for it as I recall 🤔 but I also don't remember looking super hard 😅
@@zaccheus oh I know you get focused on the task and just wanna get right to work and just start moving thats like Friday I did a white oak and moved the rigging rope after one piece came down bc I didnt like how it worked I was like nope changing that!
@brandon-rustystreecare haha absolutely! I must admit that I end up putting some of my focus on the video when I'm filming. Certainly doesn't make anything easier 😅
@@zaccheus Thats why I am 50 50 with filming its just me and one guy most of the time so I dont wanna focus to much bc I cant find reliable help at all so I wanna get down and start helping my guy but on some jobs ill borrow one of my buddies guys to help
@brandon-rustystreecare yeah, for sure man. Unless the videos are making more than the work, sometimes you have to sacrifice the video to get the work done safely.
ARE YOU UP IN, OR OUT ON, A DEAD LEANING FOUR-INCH LIMB, OR IS THAT SOME KIND OF OPTICAL ILLUSION?? i would never go up that far!! not in/on something so small
@ haha thanks man, I think it’s mostly about knowing the tree and knowing what it can handle and what it can’t. Anything outside of that is based on fear or foolishness.
Thank you for your gentle approach to correction. I really appreciate that here in the comment section. I spoke correctly. Based primarily on my experience, wood is stronger in tension than compression. If you have access to literature that says otherwise, I would be happy to take a look at it. Experience isn't everything.
The build up is from sap flow moving up and down on the outside of the tree ...was always how I thought of it. That is why a lower branding tree tends to be shorter and/or rounder in the canopy... Like with a shorter round variety of Red maple sometimes being quite short in the middle and maybe dieing out a bit up in the tip middle, because the sap doesn't flow around all of the limbs up the inside of the tree as well as it does ti the outside limbs.😮😅🤔🙄👍
@marklam8548 I think you're on to something there. The sap wood does flow the most sap which is why it's called the sap wood. There are a bunch of different reasons why trees put wood where they do and grow in the shapes that they do. "The body language of trees" is a really great book to read on the matter.
@dgregory2238 Fair thought! In the right situation, I'd just let them swing too. What was real apparent is that there were powerlines over the tree lawn and ornamental trees in the tree lawn that we didn't want stuff swinging into. Also, having that green rope on there helps keep stuff a little higher as the weight transfers over to the main rope or blue rope in this situation. I hate dragging on shingles and I'll do a lot to avoid it. If I can 😅
@@corbinbattiste152 fair thought, however a system like that tends to put the piece right between the two rigging point or a little closer to the anchor side sometimes. We didn’t have enough room to afford that on this project. The transfer system we used allows us to control exactly where the piece lands between the two rigging points. In this case we wanted everything to be directly under the rigging point farther from the house. A v rig or span rig system cannot do that.
Granted but not everyone has a Merlo. Besides learning how to rig effectively is a good skill as it will serve you well in those back garden jobs or like the fella says where there are obstacles. Not to mention it's nice to watch someone else working hard now and again 😂
Lol, absolutely not. I wish it was that easy. I had the GRCS in the truck but left it there. That would not have been a safe approach. In theory and principle it works and I've definitely done it with some big leads, but this would have been outside of SWL and there wasn't an appropriate rigging point that could handle that load. I do like the v9lsness of you suggestion though. Don't shy from that 😂
@zaccheus I enjoyed the video as it's not a text book case and involves creative thinking to safely execute. How did you reach your TIP with gaffs; do your gaffs have an integrated foot ascended? If not, then you limb walked the ~60° ascent? Basically another video could demonstrate part one to entering the canopy.
@trevorwatson2591 I do have a foot ascender on my gaff and I love it. I think I ascended the rope part way and had the boys swing me over maybe. It was a good while ago now. I did basically walk down the thing all the way back to the tree. It's not super hard with a few tricks. I can definitely make a point to include them in another video sometime.
Nice Zack. The cones looked like big candy corns laying there. Happy Easter... HE IS RISEN!!!!!
Thanks, Jon! Haha, yes they do! HE HAS RISEN INDEED!
😢amen ...every knee will bow
He IS Risen!! Yes!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@silverclouds3725 amen ...
Good learning! I have a project this summer that has some large limbs hanging way out.... so seeing how you rigged things to control the fall and sweep was definitely helpful!
That's great! I'm glad it stirred the creative juices!
Awesome Vid!
I love it. And the patience you have with the ground man
Thanks Christian! Patience is everything in this industry. Every accident story I hear seems to start with "we were in a rush..." I've made the mistake of rushing too many times and I try my best to avoid it.
Enjoyed the video. Double Rigging. I use it some. It's the third step in control rigging. First you have a rigging rope set up to control drop. Second, if necessary, you add a tagline to control movement of rigged piece. Finally, in difficult situations like you had, with big limbs over house targets, you add a second rigging setup to float picks away to safe landing. Very nice. Helps to have really good rope men on the ground. Thanks for sharing. Super job.
Thanks man! Yeah, good ground help and good communication with them is very important for complex rigging. It makes all the difference
Looking forward to this. Rigging is my favorite part of tree work.
Mine too! There are three kinds of climbers I think. Those who like the climbing, those who like making the cuts and free falling stuff, amd those who like rigging.
@@zaccheus something magical about floating massive pieces to the ground safely
@peelnation Absolutely! Next weekends video will be all about rigging forces and such. You might find it enjoyable.
@zaccheus that's right up my alley, looking forward to it
Zack, you are a great teacher and explain your actions so the process is easy to understand. Making a 'flower' from the cones makes great sense so you can see the light pole. Blessings to you.
@billroberts3864 Aw thanks Bill. I just want to share the things I've learned as much as I can. I learned a lot by watching others here. Hoping to pass the favor forward.
Great job. thank you for all the explanations. Personally, I'd love to see the climbing and set up, not just the cutting. It's so helpful to watch the process of putting the rigging lines and blocks in place and to watch how you move around the trees.
I hear you there! I'll focus that when I get a tree that will make a good example. This weekend's video will focus specifically on block placement in the canopy. Might be worth watching if that's your area of interest.
The rope stretch on that chunck was wild. Really made me think about sticking with only one brand/model for designated purposes to be able to understand/ predict better what it's going to do in each situation. Thanks for the post, great teamwork!
Happy Easter
Romans 8:11
Yes, it caught me by suprise. That was a brand new 12 strand rope too. I think they tend to have a little more stretch until they get broken in. I do much of my work with double braid.
True blue is super stretchy
Im really impressed with how quickly you seem to have improved and how you talk to your ground staff few climbers i know are that nice and concise
Thanks! Communication just seems to be such a large part of our everyday work. When it's done well, the job goes smoother.
My only suggestion would be to fishpole the green line below you to prevent any fouling as the pieces are dumped into the rigging. (First and second pieces noticeably got into it.)
Thats a good thought, I think setting a few points along the stem could have reduced that.
@@zaccheus One would likely be sufficient, as long as it was near the point where the rope was the farthest out. It worked perfectly as you did it, but there was potential for fouling. I try to avoid a piece coming in contact with the first line when transitioning to the second line. If/when a piece fouls in a scenario like that, it can ruin the transfer, making it necessary to lower with both lines, negating the whole point of the setup.
Excellent videos as usual. I was curious about what you were going to do for that, and I’m impressed and will use this setup next time I run into this situation. Thanks brother!
Thats great! I'm glad this was a helpful video. Stay safe out there!
Hey and thanks for the" tree facts with Zach "😂 your funny bro🤣
Haha thanks man. That was all my editor. He did really well with it 😂
Nice lanyard configuration at 8:16... I dig it, great video too by the way great job spanning the limbs between the two points🤙
Thanks man! I was hoping someone would see that 😅 it's slightly controversial because everything still connect to you through one bridge or two bridges that are close together 🤷♂️
Happy Easter! Great vid! I’ve done this technique several times before and it’s essential on some jobs! I’ll usually use a some sort of friction adding rigging point on the structure side, and a locked off portawrap on the side it’s transferring to and either me or the ground guy can transfer it to the other line.
Happy Easter! I can see how that would work nice. I really dislike running ropes in the tree, so I'm typically happy to just let the groundies do it. I've only done it with heavy wood a few times, but for most small stuff, I cam see how you could do it with a munter hitch or something cheaper than a second portawrap.
@@zaccheus thanks! Yep- having the guys on the ground do it is my preferred method too haha. One thing I like about having the friction point up in the tree on the side that I’m cutting in is the reduced forces on that side, and usually my far side rigging is set up pretty well and doesn’t see any negative forces. That’s that it’s necessary for every tree but something I’ve used a few times before to make the rigging ideal as possible 😄
@@spiercevaughn that's an excellent point. Sometimes you need all the help you can get in the force department!
Awesome video you helped me learn the technique needed to get a job done right hopefully. Ive already cut my leg with the chainsaw on this job which I didn't even feel but it was a learning experience
@@devonblades5346 that’s great! I’m glad the video was helpful. I’m sorry to hear you’ve experienced an injury. I cut my knee year and years ago before I worked in the industry and the bill from getting it stitched up made me realize that the code of chaps or chainsaw pants is worth it. I don’t even start a saw without some leg protection on these days
I'm about 6 months into a arb school in Sweden. Really like these types of videos :) We havn't done any rigging yet, mainly just climbing and handsaw pruning. What is the fastes way of getting the blue riggin rope back to the climber in this situation?
In this situation be tying it onto the green lowering line. In other situations either swinging it back to him if he can swing it or tying onto his climb line and he pulls it up or pulls it over to himself.
That's great, man! If I could do everything over again, I would definitely seek more formal education.
Climbing and handsaw pruning is super underrated and is a great place to start. Seems like way too many folks just want to skip that stage of learning.
Brandon hit it right on the head with his answer. We just tied the ropes together. The ultimate, end all solution that works for most scenarios, is to have the ground person tie it onto the climbing rope so the climber can pull it up. It's slow and tedious, but it works if nothing else does... most of the time 😅
Nice work. You were a long way out on that limb. Is that True Blue rigging rope? Happy Easter.
Happy Easter Bill! Yes it was! I went into buy some double braid because that is my favorite, but true blue was all they had. It does the job, just gotta be a little more gentle with it 😅
Happy Easter Brother! 🌲 🌳 🫡
Happy Easter!
Excellent! Really appreciate the respect you show to your crew!
Had you considered just an end weight reduction on this limb to reduce the bending moment? Im just curious on the reasoning for the removal cut vs a reduction cut.
@@emiwekwert1646 I’m just a contract climber. By the time I arrive, the salesmen has already done the damage. Were this tree in my yard, I would certainly pursue a multi stage pruning plan to reduce the risk over the house rather than leave a huge wound like we did.
Great video brother. Super helpful to show my new helpers some of what rigging we may be doing. Good for them to see it from the aerial climber perspective -- bc their job is so important to keep everything safe & undamaged.
I know hindsight is always clearer, but would suggest you throw down some plywood or terrain mats on sidewalk & possibly lawn grass to avoid the dips created by heavy smashing wood
That's great! I'm glad to hear that you can use the video in that way. I've been trying to make some short and better focused videos for easy sharing recently. Gotta make that time in the truck count!
Thays an excellent idea. I didn't suggest it to my client because the lawn really wasn't too soft, but in hindsight it would have been a little better for things.
Zach, nice job as usual. Just to show you nurseries when they grow trees will sell anything that tree should have had that limb pruned off 40 years ago with a hand pruner. As for the lamp post light, I always remove the lamp head where possible. Happy Easter
Yeah, even could have been planted in a different orientation 😅
That's an excellent thought. I think we looked into that but the whole thing was made with an old wooded porch pole and looked pretty fragile.
Yea, I have had to replace some of those old posts before. Employee drags a limb by a post like that, and it gets knocked over because it is totally rotten at the base of the post. From experience, I'll, at minimum, remove light fixture. I have, even in the past, built a wood structure around high-end targets below the work zone. Once again, you do great work.
My biggest concern, looking at this through the phone screen, is rigging off of that long skinny stem overhanging the house, that your also tied into woth your strop. Were you not concerned about the whole stem falling on the house when dropping those limbs, or were the branches not really heavy enough to be a problem? I mean obviously they weren't because the stem didnt fail and there was no issue 😂 from my pov i wouldve been tempted to put a line on that stem locked off to make double sure it wouldnt fail. Top job, and great explination and direction, thank you!
That would have been a good was to back it up. I wasn't concerned. It had surely dee way more loafing from the weather than anything we did to it.
Nice video bud, how are you getting on with the electric top handle? Would you recommend it?
@@terryrich4285 I like it a lot. It’s not going to beat a 201 by any means, but I think it’s probably the best value top handle electric saw out on the market right now.
Zaccheus are you limb walking to get out on those limbs and tie all that stuff or just sort of pulling yourself out there and lanyarding off with the limbs about chest height? Thanks! Awesome video! Your crazy high up there man! Way above those 2 story houses.
@@RC-Heli835 it was nearly a year ago and I’m not sure I remember. I think I ascended to my thin point and then had the grounders pull me over to the stem I was working on and then spiked my way up to the top of it. I might have set two ropes too.
Nice job! Loved the tree facts with Zach theme music lol
Haha, thanks!
Nice rigging! Were you using 2 porta wraps? I’ve done something similar and run a Speedline to send it out and the portawrap to lower the load. I’ll lock the Speedline off and wrap it around something. I’ll keep this in mind for the next one over a house!
Thabk you! Yes, we had 2 porta wraps on the tree. It maybe could be done with 1, but it wouldn't be easy.
Awesome thanks Zack very helpful great work!
Glad to hear it, Michael! Thanks for watching!
Hey absolutely something to keep including as you see a correlation to the video..."Another tree facts with Zach". Don't know about anyone else but it would have been nice to see the ground person perspective when running/lowering at the portawrap.
Great stuff buddy, as always.
Haha, I'll do my best to be on the lookout out for more tree facts 😂
Thats really good to know. Do you think a helmet cam would work well or more like a camera on a tripod?
probably a camera on a tripod. I say that because I would believe the ground person would be focused on the climber cutting, so their view would be "everywhere". Maybe try both just once to see what comes across best @@zaccheus
I was thinking when you were in that top. Maybe you could do a video discussing how gaffs work when you are on the top side vs low side of an angled branch. The westcoast guys with their straight trees make it look too easy.
Thays a great idea, I'll have to cover that in another climbing video! It's pretty simple with a few tricks. Tha ms for the idea!
Was there a reason not to span rig this situation, moving the fixed side down the limb as you progress
I considered that. It might have worked and could have been faster. I use that technique when I can. The transfer system allows for more precision and allows us to lower the limb all the way over at one side if the system where traditional span rigging lowers in the center or slightly biased to the fixed side.
Did you leave the yellow line in the red pulley and slide it down the trunk as you progressed Or did you take the rope out and re-install the pulley every time
The block is on an ultra sling so I have to take the rope out of the block. But the block opens and closes very easily so it's still faster than leaving the block on the rope and using a dead eye sling.
Was the lift used to set rigging and to get into the tree? Nice video, I always benefit from your teachings. Shout out from MN
Hey, I've climbed in MN. Nice area for sure.
Thanks! They used the lift to get some stuff over the road. I set all the rigging and got dead wood out wherever the lift could reach.
Cool fact about the ring compression/tension
Another great one. Thank you.
Thanks Geoffrey!
Cool video! Does this mean you are getting a ground crew together again? Happy Easter 😊👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks! No, this was just a contract climb like all of my tree work is these days. It was for a really good company that I really enjoy working for though.
Love those little Milwaukee saws although they scare me a bit 😅
Always prefer a gas if I can but this is great for this situation and limbing easy stuff on ground
@@WillyMac99 do you find them to be particularly hazardous compared to gas saws?
@@zaccheus I've seen that they don't stop on cut-stop fabric. They rip right through it and keep going. Also, I've heard that the hand brake tends to break on some models, leaving it in the cut position.
@ I have seen the chain brake not work. It’s a dirt build up issue. If the saws are kept clean, it can’t happen.
If you start checking, I think you find that most chaps and chainsaw pants warn that they are not rated for electric saws. It’s kind left me wonder what the industry will do about that.
What would this tree removal cost? Have a similar situation in MA and want to know what is fair and what isn't. I know theres a lot that goes into it ie. equipment, insurance, labor, etc. Thanks.
I have no idea. I'm an independent contractor and I don't ask my client what they charge.
Is that blue moon your climbing on? How do you like it?
Yes it is. It's not my favorite. I like xstatic better, but blue moon is good for drt and srt which is why I got it. It has good hand, it just flattens pretty bad in mechanical devices.
Grcs and porta on the same tree truck?
This was just two porta wraps, but I have used a porta wrap and GRCS on the same tree before for the same thing
Well done. Nice technique. Also, that looks like an oak. Not sure when you filmed this but you can only prune those in the dormant season, late February being the latest or run the risk of it contracting oak wilt, especially if it's in the red oak family.
This was a little while ago. What's your source on oak wilt season? OSU say we can prune oak trees up until April 15th. I'm not comfortable going that late, so I never do.
@@zaccheus You are correct. Many institutions have through early April as the cutoff. With the mild winters becoming more common and spring arriving earlier due to climate change. that window in my opinion has shrunk . I'm going to a pruning workshop held by Penn State extension tomorrow and I will bring that topic up. I'll pass along any information I get regarding this to you.
@geekay4703 That's a fair thought! I haven't seen any bugs out yet and we still have frost in the forecast, so I didn't feel bad about trimming in March, but that's not using any real data. The last two winters have been a little more mild, but I don't think they're an accurate sample of what is to come 😅
What an incredibly intelligent and helpful young man !
Oh you're too kind! Thank you, I'm glad to have been of assistance
Happy Easter to you and your family zach. Where's pounder at today. Kinda strange not seeing him in the comments
Thank you, William! Happy Easter to you and yours as well!
I don't know. I exchanged a couple messages with my on Instagram the other day. I hope everything is well with him. Maybe he had an emergency job late last night and is sleeping in today 🤷♂️
Happy Easter Zacc!
Thanks Kevin! Happy Easter to you aswell!
If I was just going to buy one cheap rope just to keep a couple of Limbs from landing on my rotten garage roof what do you think I should do? I would only be up on a ladder not climbing in the tree I don't think and I don't have any other equipment other than you know my little chainsaws
Mmmm that sounds like it has the potential to be a rough situation. Lowering branches with a rope while on a ladder sounds like there might be a lot of potential for Thales limbs to swing and hit you or the ladder. Where are you located? I think you might have told me, but I'm ashamed to say that I can't remember.
@@zaccheus I'm thinking. I'll think of something😊.
And when I know what I'm thinking I will surely have another question for you
@deadmanswife3625 haha okay, I'll be ready 😊
Is there any way you can make a pole saw work for you?
@@zaccheus that's part of what I'm thinking and about going out on the limb a little bit the pole saw is very unwieldy because it bends all the time it's like 24 ft long but I might be able to rig up some kind of brace or something where I can sort of rest it on there and just go slowly .....I'm thinking🤔🤣
You seem like a good boss. They are few and far between!
@@lottaaction8072 thanks man! I just do my best to treat others the way I want to be treated. Far from perfect, but the goal helps.
9:42 ... very cool!
I know, right?! Trees are amazing
How much would this job cost
@@MsSalim20001 I don’t know. I’m just the climber, I didn’t sell the job and it wasn’t my place to ask.
Great job!
Whats the cost?
@@GuciTheBulldog1 thanks! No clue, I was just subcontracting.
@zaccheus
Alright,
With your exp,
Ball park, how much would you expect/charge for a job as this.
1.tree trunk in about 10.inch diameter, over the roof. Trunk is about 10.feet from the roof. I believe it's a "live oak" tree.
I would really appreciate any input because it's a property I am interested in and it's a big concern of mine.
Thanks in advance
@ I do all of my bidding based on the time it will take to get a job done. If I think it’ll take 6 hours, the number I’ll turn in will be how much I need to make an hour times six hours.
@@zaccheus
Thanks anyways
What would something like this cost?
@@juanpozos6267 as much as the customer will pay
Excellent video and excellent work 👍🏼😊
@@bryanbradford2742 thanks!
Great video man!
Thank you sir!
That was a really good job. Nice work man
Thanks man!
Awesome job!
new subs. that was neat. thanks for sharing
@@paytimeforREDRUM thanks for subscribing!
Masterly. Very nice and smooth
Thanks!
Nicely done only thing I would of done differently is maybe find a more permanent spot for the green rope so I would not of had to move it a bunch. But with out seeing the tree in person you probably couldnt find a good spot I bet!
I would agree, that works have been faster and easier. I some think there was much opportunity for it as I recall 🤔 but I also don't remember looking super hard 😅
@@zaccheus oh I know you get focused on the task and just wanna get right to work and just start moving thats like Friday I did a white oak and moved the rigging rope after one piece came down bc I didnt like how it worked I was like nope changing that!
@brandon-rustystreecare haha absolutely! I must admit that I end up putting some of my focus on the video when I'm filming. Certainly doesn't make anything easier 😅
@@zaccheus Thats why I am 50 50 with filming its just me and one guy most of the time so I dont wanna focus to much bc I cant find reliable help at all so I wanna get down and start helping my guy but on some jobs ill borrow one of my buddies guys to help
@brandon-rustystreecare yeah, for sure man. Unless the videos are making more than the work, sometimes you have to sacrifice the video to get the work done safely.
Good job young man😊
@@Anonymous-ff5wr thank you!
Happy easter buddy god bless
Happy Easter!
ARE YOU UP IN, OR OUT ON, A DEAD LEANING FOUR-INCH LIMB, OR IS THAT SOME KIND OF OPTICAL ILLUSION?? i would never go up that far!! not in/on something so small
@@gregy1570 it wasn’t dead. It oak go can go way up into the really small limbs if you load the limbs correctly
@@zaccheus DON'T BE MODEST! you have MAJOR guts:)
@ haha thanks man, I think it’s mostly about knowing the tree and knowing what it can handle and what it can’t. Anything outside of that is based on fear or foolishness.
Good job man.
@@arbopro thanks!
Fantastic job Guys
The trees look taller when you are giving us a birds eye view.
@marymulrooney1334 they feel taller from up there too!
Awesome job
@toddjacks8288 thanks Todd!
Zach, think you misspoke, compression is stronger than tension. Not a big deal, just know you want to get it right😊!
Thank you for your gentle approach to correction. I really appreciate that here in the comment section. I spoke correctly. Based primarily on my experience, wood is stronger in tension than compression. If you have access to literature that says otherwise, I would be happy to take a look at it. Experience isn't everything.
I think Zach was right. Because capacity of wood to hold more on tension, it will build up more material on the compression side (my guess)
The build up is from sap flow moving up and down on the outside of the tree ...was always how I thought of it. That is why a lower branding tree tends to be shorter and/or rounder in the canopy... Like with a shorter round variety of Red maple sometimes being quite short in the middle and maybe dieing out a bit up in the tip middle, because the sap doesn't flow around all of the limbs up the inside of the tree as well as it does ti the outside limbs.😮😅🤔🙄👍
@marklam8548 I think you're on to something there. The sap wood does flow the most sap which is why it's called the sap wood. There are a bunch of different reasons why trees put wood where they do and grow in the shapes that they do. "The body language of trees" is a really great book to read on the matter.
Well done,Zac
Thanks, man!
Really nice video
Thanks Michael!
Did you ever climb a sycamore tree?
Haha, yes I have. Even have a video of one on here somewhere. I'm not a tax collector though 😅
@@zaccheus Them tax collectors can be sketchy unless they're climbing trees and entertaining royalty lol
@@earndoggy 😂😂
Oh nice.
(Seems I'm already subscribed, lol, I had no idea)
Very nice 👌
Thanks Greg!
Sweet video!!
Thanks, Lane!
I think what yah did worked great, but I probably would’ve just butt hinged a lot of it and put a tag line on it. Good work tho man
It’s essentially what you’re doing, but you have that extra assurance by using another rigging point
@dgregory2238 Fair thought! In the right situation, I'd just let them swing too. What was real apparent is that there were powerlines over the tree lawn and ornamental trees in the tree lawn that we didn't want stuff swinging into. Also, having that green rope on there helps keep stuff a little higher as the weight transfers over to the main rope or blue rope in this situation. I hate dragging on shingles and I'll do a lot to avoid it. If I can 😅
I’m eight months late, but the phrase you were looking for is “if at all possible” (avoid roof sweep) you came up with “if at all costs”
But the tree came down beautifully and that’s what counts!
@@jacobsladderpa yep, I misspoke
A concrete guy would say that kids would crack it
But who's perfect
Nice job.
@@hesrey6734 thanks!
Reaction wood
Absolutely, that's a broader term for it.
V rig would’ve been optimal and would also have given you an extra hand free on the ground. Not having to use 2 ropes.
@@corbinbattiste152 fair thought, however a system like that tends to put the piece right between the two rigging point or a little closer to the anchor side sometimes. We didn’t have enough room to afford that on this project. The transfer system we used allows us to control exactly where the piece lands between the two rigging points. In this case we wanted everything to be directly under the rigging point farther from the house. A v rig or span rig system cannot do that.
Good job
It's interesting to see different techniques
@@Moderndaylumberjack thanks!
You made one hellova climber in short time….👊🏻
Thanks man!
I like tree fiction.
Like trunk wraps or natural crotch rigging?
You said "Tree Facts"@@zaccheus
@@ItreboR63I oh lol I gotcha, sorry I didn't get it the first time 😅
I just watched a clip of the Merlo 5035. Tbh, it’d take this down in 15 minutes without risking anyone’s life.
The wires at the road limited boom access to the tree.
Granted but not everyone has a Merlo. Besides learning how to rig effectively is a good skill as it will serve you well in those back garden jobs or like the fella says where there are obstacles. Not to mention it's nice to watch someone else working hard now and again 😂
@@LandieManCan I certainly appreciate the skill involved. I’ve cut down trees on my own and that’s some scary 💩.
30 seconds into the video i see grcs...1 cut and stand the entire leader vertical
Lol, absolutely not. I wish it was that easy. I had the GRCS in the truck but left it there. That would not have been a safe approach. In theory and principle it works and I've definitely done it with some big leads, but this would have been outside of SWL and there wasn't an appropriate rigging point that could handle that load. I do like the v9lsness of you suggestion though. Don't shy from that 😂
i would not even consider that for less than 1,700$....what does a leader that size go for in your market?
@ttvilaxell2742 🤷♂️ I'm just a contract climber.
Dude, your using spikes on a live tree you aren't removing! Nice rigging but I am shocked you climbing like this.
@daniel_913 Yeah, I was removing the entire lead, so I spiked the part we were removing.
@zaccheus I enjoyed the video as it's not a text book case and involves creative thinking to safely execute.
How did you reach your TIP with gaffs; do your gaffs have an integrated foot ascended? If not, then you limb walked the ~60° ascent? Basically another video could demonstrate part one to entering the canopy.
@trevorwatson2591 I do have a foot ascender on my gaff and I love it. I think I ascended the rope part way and had the boys swing me over maybe. It was a good while ago now. I did basically walk down the thing all the way back to the tree. It's not super hard with a few tricks. I can definitely make a point to include them in another video sometime.
Wow😅
Why are you making it harder than you need. All the rigging is completely overkill.
What would you have done? I'm always interested in hearing other ideas.
Yikes I can barely watch your POV lol
@@ShortStuff0000 too dizzy or too high?
@@zaccheus too high, I can't imagine being up there and also dealing with that spider web of ropes and keeping track of what each one is for.
@ ah, it all comes with practice. It’s a little scary sometimes, but experience helps a lot
Good example of transom rigging
That's a name I haven't heard it called before!
This have become my new favorite page! You really need S M Zeus!!
Thanks man! I'm glad you enjoy it! You might have to help me a little, what is S M Zeus?