@@malcolmhardwick4258 I have several brand name guitars. but my Chibson has been my goto. while i did put high end electronics, grover tuners and a graphene nut. everything about the body and neck has been rock solid
I had two Chibsons a few years ago that I modded and the end guitars were wicked nice. I was shocked how well the frets and the neck had been done and the guitars looked nice ! Tuners, Bridge, pickups, nut. Thats about it, one of them needed the truss rod tweaked a little bit. Blown away, ended up giving my ex's son one of them (he loves the guitar) and the other sits in a jam room. They play nice and sound nice. Seems every year these guitars get better and better with the frets and neck work. They are never going to come with good bridge, pots, pickups, nut or tuners. So prepare to spend a couple hundred minimum, but the end guitar was WELL worth it.
@@bryanmanx Exactly. I own real Gibsons from the late 90s. I try out Gibsons all the time and i am in disbelief how bad the quality is on their guitars. Those Chibsons played better than $2700 Gibsons ! Ive been playing for about 28 years or so. The last decent era of Gibson was before the weigh relief bodies and stuff. 1990s. But i cant imagine spending $2700 when for $450-600 you can build a killer guitar that plays so well. Believe me im sure there are plenty of junk Chibsons. But in the past 5-7 years the quality has gone up. They know how to do frets now. That in itself is scary. For the $240 ish gamble its worth it imho especially if you were thinking about spending $2700 on a real Gibson. If ya have that type of money take the $240 gamble and have some fun and learn something along the way. Just funny when you see people who trash these guitars and they KNOW already that the pickups and tuners etc are trash, but they complain about it in their videos anyways. Your not gonna get a perfectly setup guitar for $240. But what you will get is the basis for making yourself a wonderful guitar. $450-600 and on top of it, it says Gibson if you want. But most places will put what ever you want on the headstock.
@@ctcards2636 Im getting my sister who has a machine to make me a Chibson headstock logo ;D. I play this thing everyday and it amazes me when I finally break out the tuner and its spot on after a week and a half of playing. you dont get that with a gibson and that crazy headstock angle. I have recorded a few songs as well and the tone I am getting out of my amp with the Seymour Duncan saturday night special pickups is sweet and warm. I have had quite a few guitars over the years and this one I cannot put down.
@@bryanmanx Id say for every 10 of these Chibsons sold, 4-6 are pretty well made guitars. The other 4 may not be so nice. Def pays to research who you buy one of these off. But that gets back to what i was saying about Gibson, i dont think their quality is any better. Id say every other Gibson i pick up is not a very well made guitar these days. Sit down with it long enough and there are issues that should not exist on a $2700 guitar you will discover. :-) Also the two i had stayed in tune fine, no issues. I seriously had to laugh because i was not expecting these to be this good. I want to order a few more and mod them and give them away to some of my friends and band mates. One of my band members has a $3600 Les Paul semi hollow model and he has issues with the neck, wasnt put in right. Can get the action correct, neck is twist, have to lower bridge til its touching the body and even then its not low enough. Guitar is a mess. When he tried out one of these, he was unaware that it was a fake and started jamming on it and he said "Wow Gibsons quality must have gone up recently!" !!!!! lol. The fake blew is $3600 real Gibson away. Wasnt even close. Thats my issue with Gibson. If you knew you were gonna get a quality guitar when spending that much, i can see why some people would want to do that. But the quality does not match the price. Just because it says Gibson on it ? Bogus.
@@ctcards2636 One tip I offer to people is look for Chibsons with transparent varnish front, back and neck. a dark opaque chibson is a good way to hide God knows what kind of wood problems.
I have seven of them. All have been or are in the process of replacing Electronics and Tuners. I have had phenomenal luck with the sellers I have dealt with. And they all play nicely. This review is probably the most honest one done of a chibson.
@@JEFFERYPAUL1 it's kind of a crap shoot. If it's at Les Paul Custom type I found mine to be 10 mm. If it's a Les Paul Standard it's probably an 8 mm. Nonetheless I purchased a set of kluson lockers that were 10 mm and I had to ring the hole up in my standard from 8 to 10. Best thing to do is pull a tuner and measure the hole. And the other trick is if the tuner uses a press in bushing in the headstock it's probably not 10 mm. If it uses a feral nut it's probably 10 mm.
@@JEFFERYPAUL1 you are very welcome good luck and have fun modifying them, they are worth it. The funny thing is, I have seven Chibson's and one Epiphone. And the Epiphone seems to be the one to give me the most trouble.
My son and I got Greco's instead of Gibsons,1979 Greco RG 750 Standard LP and a 1980's SG Standard and there is no reason to get a Gibson anymore well maybe a double cut Jr unless we find a Greco. $700 & $800 were each guitar and now a day's Epiphones are going for that much 😕. But it's about the individual player in the end and it's cool you found a guitar you really like 👍
I changed the pots (CTS), switch, wiring and plastics on my Jimmy Page chibson. The fake Grovers work fine after tightening, pickups are good also. It's got a maple laminate but the tone and sustain are great all the same.
i have 3 LP style Agiles, all have a full 3/4 maple cap, not a veneer or photo. All 2nd hand, 2 cost $400, 1 cost $250. 2 have new pots and pups, 1 all ive done is different strings, done a set up, but this thing sounds a lot like Koss, not me, the guitar, the tone is awesome for trying to play Free! The other 2 one has 57 and 57 plus pups, CTS pots with full Jimmy wiring.Againg i gave it a set up, really does sound and play awesome. The last has SD Whole Lotta Humbuckers, CTS pots with coil split on both, pure tone jack, i did the frets as well as set up. Those SD's are incredible, oh, i used emerson pio's as well, and this thing has incredible tonal range! For a total of around $1800 i have 3 guitars that all play great, have incredible sound, all different, but awesome, and i would definitely put them against any $2500 Gibson! Oh one thing, these are pretty hefty!
My buddy loaned me an agile for a couple weeks. That thing played like a boss. He hadn't done anything to it. Was shocking how quiet it was, no buzz, no hum. You'd forget it was on.
I own a 97 studio and did about the same changes. Bought it used with 496/500 pups and to keep up I changed the pots and wiring, switch and jack. For more reliable I changed the bridge and tailpiece, the tuners and nut. Now it rocks and supposedly I took away from the value but I would never believe that.
Also how much you want to play with it. So every individual can get better at guitar. Both my guitars are art as much as tools because I love looking at them.
I've owned an Austin LP guitar (Indonesia) which was not bad at all (as in did NOT need any upgrades). But honestly the 2 real Les Pauls I have are both Classics, one is a classic limited edition Teaburst faded (nice flame on it) and the other is an Ebony. I know the flame you see is likely a veneer or paper (more likely paper). Both of my Gibsons are exceptional and I'm super happy with my purchases. But I did play a lot of Gibsons before finding the right ones... thats the thing, and that goes with every guitar (Fenders...) the one you first pick up in the store may not feel right or have a lot of dings or customer demo scars. It takes time to find the right one.
A new guitar can never be compared to one that's old with settled wood thathas had alot of care over the years. We shall see how the chibson holds up nice thing is if it doesn't I can transfer my upgrades to something else and I have not lost much money
I have purchased recently a couple Chibsons (LP and a ES-345) and a Chickenbacker 325 and I am extremely pleased with them, right out of the box (well, I had to do a complete setup but I had to do that on the real Gibsons and Fenders I own as well). I do understand the consequence of someone passing these off as the real thing, but that will never be me. That being said I would guess Gibson, et al are very happy to sell someone their hardware/electronics to upgrade a Chibson. Those parts have a very high profit margin.
Agreed. I immediately painted over my fake logo and added a chibson logo on mine. I friggin love this guitar. It's definitely not a les Paul but it kinda stands on its own as a quirky but excellent guitar
I ordered mine with stainless steel fret. They have the option of adding CTS pots, Orange drop resistors as long as you pay extra but i didn't go for it as they are not going to be original electronics. I ended up only self modded the nut to a tusq nut, changed the bridge and both humbuckers to gotoh Tune-o-matic and a pair of seymour duncan alnico 2 slash respectively.
I own 3 firefly LPs and my chibson cherry burst standard LP blew me away,don’t get me wrong I’m a big firefly fan,and even though I love my flys,this chibson is right up there with epi phone,,probably the closest you can get to the real thing for the money,if I could start over my guitar collection, would have gotten all chibsons period,they are that good.
My favorite part is you can put your money in upgrades and customizing it to make it personal without adding dollars to something that already cost alot and might be too scared to even tinker with.
ONLY people for whom money is no object should ever buy a Gibson LP! Look, you get a Chibson, do the recommended upgrades and tweaks - to the ear only, VERY few will ever know they're not hearing an actual Gibson LP. Add in the fact that the Epiphone LPs aren't exceptionally built either. Ethically, I think I would not have a fake Gibson logo put on my Chibson. At the end of the day, as you can swap out maybe $300 in parts to turn a Chibson into a very nice playing guitar, and as their build quality has become rather impressive the last couple of years, I'd go for it! For me, the bottom lines are the quality of the sound and playability. Ultimately, you simply can't hear a logo or legacy, but you CAN hear and see tons of marketing hype as well as feel a much lighter wallet associated with the the purchase of a Gibson LP, and to a lesser degree, the Epiphones as well. Now, will you ever recoup your investment on a Chibson? That's questionable, perhaps unlikely. But if you plan to have a great guitar with a FAR more modest investment that you plan to play for a very long time, a Chibson could be well worth it. My three cents, anyway.
I have two Harley Benton SG style guitars and both have recieved a similar treatment. Top flight appointments are not too pricey if you install them yourself. I think all in on my 3-pup custom I am at about 600 bucks. Not bad at all.
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I had a friend over for a jam. He owns a gibson les paul, and I own chibsons. Believe it or not, he preferred playing my chibson les paul standard, over his own real gibson.
I think that's the pitfall some people make though. People treat all Gibsons as automatically the best for them, whereas every player needs to find a good match and not be afraid to mod it to their tastes. I've seen some tasteful mods to Gibson Studios and even Standards that have been some of the greatest guitars I've ever played. Not all Gibsons are great, but the ones that are usually blow everything else out the water when plugged into a good amp that lets it shine
Realistically, I’d recommend anyone to just buy an epiphone. A good way to get into the LP market. Chibsons are a hit or miss, and are usually a miss. Nuances like the scale length being off, neck angle and how it’s been set. Chibsons are pretty junk. If you want a reliable guitar, I’d recommend an epiphone, as they’re gonna have much better QC. Only thing chibsons are cool for is for experiments and projects imo.
ya totally depends on what you are looking for. this one has been a fun experiment and an interesting conversation piece. everyone sees it and says "hey les paul" but when I tell them it's a chibson they want to pick it up and play it and inspect it
Oh no sorry to hear that. They are glued on so you may be able to swap it but getting it off might be difficult. One advice I have for people buying a chibson is to make sure the back of the neck and body has transparent stain. This way you can see the wood and where any joints may be.
Regardless of the upgrades, that LES PAUL ( I don't care that it was made in China) of yours obviously has the right 'ring orientation' , concerning the wood used to make it. A great sounding guitar at a FAIR price ! It is sad when you play a $3,500 Gibson that sounds ' Lifeless'... I love my made in China Les Paul, in fact, I've only ever played ONE Les Paul (Gibson) that was as good. I put a belly bevel on mine.
Solid chibby. I’m sure someone who overpaid for plywood has a clenching sphincter right about now. Curious, does the Chibby duplicate the Gibson headstock design flaw?
@@marcusbrockus I have been trying to acheive that cartoon erection sproing sound for years. I think i must be unaware of some Boss sproing pedal that's out there.
Have you heard of the harley benton scc550 ii? Its the best Les Paul copy out there i promise you. Check it out. For only $275 it comes with stainless steel jumbo frets a mahogany body and set neck, full size pots, amazing finish and build quality, only thing that would need replacing if you were to replace anything are the pickups and tuners albeit the pickups sound nice as is
I looked very closely at those and even had a friend leave over a really good one. I really think it was the curiosity that got the best of me. what's crazy Is I think the finish on this chinese one is better than the alternatives I have looked at. I may pick up a Harley benton in a couple months lol
I got really lucky. One think I can suggest is to only look at chibsons that have clear varnish. If it has solid paint you cannot see if it's wood or many pieces of glued wood underneath. If neck varnish Is clear you can see if it's a solid neck or if it has a joint. I am loving mine and considering buying another of different style
Coming from China where they don't have an EPA I wouldn't be surprised. Will be hard to tell if it yellows with time given that it's already yellow lol.
Peopke don't realize that many of the people that manufacture these are disciplined and take alot of pride in their work even though they are doing them in bulk.
Pinch harmonics. Play with a rounded corner of the pick and roll the skin of your thumb close to the edge of the pick so when the note is played the string will barely strike the skin of your thumb, this will create a harmonic squeal.
Where do you get a good quality chibson no one ever talks about the best source for them. Agree, I would buy a Gibson LesPaul classic if it was 1000 dollars cheaper. 2800.00 usd for a guitar from a company who has questionable quality control and basically shamed people for not buying their guitars.. Have people forgotten that? The play heritage campaign? yeah, that was genius on their part.
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Brighter than the dull sound of a fool easily parted with his money, or if you prefer the dull sound of an over priced guitar. Your response was cute though.
There are better guitars for less with QC, warranty and support. And working components, correctly placed bridge etc... the only reason to spend more on a Chibson is because you care what the headstock says... if you just want a good Les Paul the options are endless. However they don't say Gibson on the headstock.
Mine no longer says Gibson on the headstock 😁 it now says Chibson. And everyone that plays it wants one. What started as a joke became something really amazing.
@@bryanmanx Fair enough but you never know what you get. Sometimes it simply can't be intonated because the bridge isn't in the right place etc... electronics non functional, sub par craftsmanship... in the age of extremely good sub 400€ guitars I don't see the point. I got a Harley Benton SC550+ for 370€. Perfect all stock. Locking tuners, EMG pickups, very high quality fretwork, beautifully made. And I can send it back anytime, I can get a refund or a discount if somethings off and I prefer it to some real Gibbons, like a Les Paul Studio, which is quite bland in comparison, no binding nothing. 10 years ago sure but now you can get amazing guitars from actual legal manufacturers for less than a Chibson + basic upgrades. But if you sanded off the logo fair enough. I'd rather mine just says Epiphone or Harley Benton or Cort or Ibanez... the age of cheap guitars has begun. Don't believe me? Buy a TE62DB. 158€. Lake Placid Blue is my recommendation. Neck perfect, pickups wonderful, pots fine, build great, action super low, fretwork near flawless, just gave it a polish and rounded the neck a little for a vintage feel. It's superior to any Squier and I would use it even if I had a Fender because I'm not afraid to scratch it or damage it. Best Telecaster I played since a made in US Fender, which was different nor necessarily better...
@@221b-l3t yea I've got a really good 86 strat that feels like it got blessed. Recently picked up a $160 schecter that is surprisingly good. I've also got an f hole Kay that I've had since new for nearly 30 years that is fantastic. I assumed this chibson was gonna be a junker when I ordered it but I was just curious more than anything. I do see a Harley benton in my future. I've heard many great things. The chibson will always remain as a funny quirk of a guitar that leaves people shaking their heads. If it ever warps or does some weird Chinese stuff I can guarantee my $600 in upgrades will go right over to the Harley benton. BTW if anyone ever tells you that pickups are not important they have never played with those duncan Saturday night specials. They had a bit of a price tag but damnit man.
@@bryanmanx Duncans are okay but if you want true perfect tone, go for Toneriders. Alnico 2 Classic are replacing all my Duncan and Gibson pickups. I actually would wager my SC550+ would beat the Chibson. Because it has annoyed people. If you told me it cost 1500€ I would think wow, the fretwork is nicer than my Gibson and the tuning stability sure is better with the 14° headstock and reduced side angle behind the nut. Plus they have a cutout on the neck so high fret access is good for a Les Paul. You can always return Thomann stuff so I highly recommend giving either the SC550+ or the TE62DB a try. I have very expensive guitars but really my Harley Telecaster and Tonerider Epiphone are my best sounding guitars. Depends where you live, America can be expensive with shipping from Germany but Europe it's hell of a deal. Not quite sure how they do it. People who never heard of HB just assume it's some boutique Telecaster that cost two grand or more. But DEFINETLY try Toneriders. Half the price of Duncans and they sound better than plenty of original 1958 PAFs. Alnico 2 Classic that is, I can't vouch for the rest. My JB/59 loaded Les Paul is retired. Sound not satisfactory. I'll sell them both for two sets of Toneriders one for the Les Paul and one for the Gibson. It has nice pickups, Burstbuckers. Great stuff. But it doesn't come close to the Epiphone in sound now. I also put in coil split CTS pots and an orange drop capacitor. So lovely... give it a try if you're into value. I'm annoyed now my expensive guitars don't have locking tuners because the ones in the Benton are fantastic but it feels wrong putting them in an LTD or Gibson... regardless I will proceed. Tuning stability goes above what the tuners cost or what brand they are, especially on a Gibson style guitar that's not exactly super stable. I swear my Gibson is the worst. The Epiphones have the reduced headstock angle and that helps a bunch. Shame Gibson chooses tradition over function... but it's what the people want.
You should probably tell people that the Chibson Rosewood is NOT Rosewood and the Ebony is NOT Ebony, the fret wire is garbage and will wear at least twice as fast as normal, all electronics are junk, pickup are crap, AND it's always going to questionable at to what you actually receive from them. I have 5 or six of them - and I've modified them all - but I understand that the necks will likely warp easier because they use cheap wood and glue. They seem good...for a while....but after a few years, you're definitely going to see issues pop up - bad truss rods, the finish wears much faster, etc. They're fine for what they are, but if you buy a $2500 Gibson, it's going to be worth at least $2,000 for the next 10 years. These are counterfeit copies that will never increase in value. You can pretty easily find them for $150. You get what you pay for.
A year in and I've had no issue. I was curious what the fretboard was. I assumed nothing was as listed. When I removed the nut I could see the tight grain of the fretboard wood at the end. I honestly thought I'd see a different color at the end discovering a dark stained pine fretboard. but it's the same color throughout the fretboard. The clearboat on the body allows a view of the solid piece of wood underneath and the lack of joints in the neck. Unlike the $150 chibsons this one had perhaps a smidge more care at $350. But yes you always get what you pay for but it's amazing what Chinese can do for so little. If the same Luthier were to build with top end wood and accessories the result would be unmatched.
You all are missing a couple of important things, one i don't like support the communist party of China so I go out of my way to buy elsewhere when possible, and 2, when you save or make payments to something you desire and pay it off you tend to hold and take care of said item. In the late 70s early 80s my parents bought brand new TV that cost 1200 and you take care of it, no rough housing around it, clean it ect, it was a major thing. I work with a guy that let his kid break 3 tv's in a year, why? Because he would just buy another for 150 bucks and not care. Cheap and disposal isn't good and if you hang on to a fake chibson and hand it down it means nothing, when I hand my Gibson, Dean, Charvel etc to my kid it means something 20 years down the road. Not hating on anybody's choices, play what you want and spend how you want. One final thing, Yes Slash played a fake les paul but it wasn't built in China, I'm pretty sure it was build by an American luthier and when Slash had money he bought a Gibson because he knows somehow it feels different, it is an accomplishment in a way. Like I said, whatever makes you happy, but I thought I would offer a different view. It does sound good 👍
Fortunately these don't come from the communist party but from extremely skilled craftsmen who just happens to be Chinese. Does the communist party benefit? Probably but same thing happens when you buy from some American companies like GM. I do think it is important at times to buy the cheap knock off just to help hold the craftsmen to their trade. If someone can do this for pennies on the dollar what are the craftsmen actually charging for.
@@bryanmanx every business in China has to support the the CCP like it of not my friend, they don't have a choice. If you support business in China a part of your money supports what the CCP does, kidnapping their own citizens, locking them up against their will, selling them food that made so many babies sick, welding them in their apartments. Seriously what do you think happens with the money you spend? And honestly everyone that gets their ass hairs up when I just state facts and my own opinion people sometimes get mad, but I really don't mind. If you have a garden in China I believe you as the owner of the garden only get 15% and the rest has to go to the government. I get there are good people there, but there are good people here and need support and other countries too. No offense to you, but f#ck China.
@@bryanmanx ya I know, alot of companies use China for cheap labor especially the government there. It is a shame because they do have very skilled people. That is a nice guitar you got, keep rocking my friend.
@TSB-pg6yo I am sitting here having a coffee with my friend Fu and showed him your comment and said you missed the point. He is canadian, and his family is from China and had one of the nest Chinese food restaurants in town before they retired about 4 or 5 years ago, furthermore him and i have been friend since The Pump House days(power lifter gym) which was 20 years. Fu says, "Take your racist glass off and think about what you're reading". It has nothing to do with the Chinese people, I would have no problem ordering a custom guitar as long as most of the money is going to the skilled labor, not the Communist party.
Supporting the pirate industry is wrong....period. There are much better alternatives like Harley Benton, LyxPro, Ivy and higher quality builds like Cort, Wolf, Agile and many more that are around the $300 USD price tag. And insulting rolex owners inferring that owning a Gibson is bragging is plain insulting. Supporting fakes is wrong!
@@bryanmanx No harm? Really? Try the fact that its putting a registered brand name that doesnt belong to them, its pirating, a copy right infringement, not to mention some have and will continue to sell the fake to unsuspecting buyers as the real thing. Thats what wrong with supporting these crooks.
@@dragan4658 if they can make these for less money why doesn't Gibson do the same? They are using the same machinery, the same wood. The knock offs only appear if the original is over priced else what would be the point.
@@bryanmanx wow! I would think with all the information on the internet you would educate yourself. Stop being a troll, you ignore all the facts Ive stated and you evidently have no clue about marketing or quality if you think the wood and other parts are the same as the Gibson.
@@dragan4658 you don't understand what I am saying. I don't want a Gibson. Never have and never will. It's been proven over and over that electric guitars don't require as much craftsmanship as once thought and can be built out of random household junk and be pretty damned good.
Why people buy these counterfeit garbage guitars when there are legally made guitars priced with the same body shapes that cost less and are built better and it isn’t close.
some are garbage and some are not. it's kinda like gambling. this one is fantastic and I upgraded just as I would have had I bought an epiphone or a Harley Benton.
@@bryanmanx the point is, when you buy an illegally made and distributed guitar that has a fake logo, serial number, and lies about where its made you are encouraging this terrible behavior. Even if these were the best guitars ever made that fact doesn’t change, its beyond unethical and illegal on top of what I previously said about them being redundant and unnecessary when other makers build better guitars that aren’t fakes.
@@xjimmemakesmusicx to the point of the logo you are correct I honestly didnt know what the logo would be since they don't show the logo in the listing.
@@xjimmemakesmusicx but unlike acoustic guitars electrics are really just a block of hardwood with a neck. if gibson didn't charge such a premium for something that can easily be ripped off these counterfeiters wouldn't exist.
@@bryanmanx That's such a cop out and you have just exposed the real reason you and likely many others buy these trash counterfeit guitars - you blame Gibson for charging so much but you WANT your guitar to say Gibson on the headstock so badly you will buy an illegal replica instead of an ESP LTD, Edwards, Harley Benton, Sire, Vintage, Greco, Burny, Epiphone, Coolz, PRS SE SC etc. So bash gibson all you want, at the end of the day it's what you actually want - the logo on the headstock or you'd have one of those instead. enjoy your illegal replica, i'm out
whats fake about it. its made out of hardwood. hand flamed maple veneer actually has a better headstock design than the gibson. plays well and is priced at what an electric guitar should be priced at. unlike an accoustic electric guitars don't need much to make them great. a badge or a high price tag doesn't have any effect on the sound.
@@bryanmanx "...what an electric guitar should be priced at..." ah, another arbiter of economic integrity. "...high price tag doesn't have any effect on the sound..." having heard it, clearly there's something in it.
Another arbiter of the quality of sound via the internet and simple external microphones. We are all fortunate to have your amazing sense of hearing to guide us through these troubling times.
My 7 year old high end Chibson is perfect. Nothing twisted or broken. Such low buzz free action and plays effortlessly. All the haters were wrong.
@@malcolmhardwick4258 I have several brand name guitars. but my Chibson has been my goto. while i did put high end electronics, grover tuners and a graphene nut. everything about the body and neck has been rock solid
I had two Chibsons a few years ago that I modded and the end guitars were wicked nice. I was shocked how well the frets and the neck had been done and the guitars looked nice ! Tuners, Bridge, pickups, nut. Thats about it, one of them needed the truss rod tweaked a little bit. Blown away, ended up giving my ex's son one of them (he loves the guitar) and the other sits in a jam room. They play nice and sound nice. Seems every year these guitars get better and better with the frets and neck work. They are never going to come with good bridge, pots, pickups, nut or tuners. So prepare to spend a couple hundred minimum, but the end guitar was WELL worth it.
Totally agree. Fun to work on as well since they are not so expensive to make you fearful
@@bryanmanx Exactly. I own real Gibsons from the late 90s. I try out Gibsons all the time and i am in disbelief how bad the quality is on their guitars. Those Chibsons played better than $2700 Gibsons ! Ive been playing for about 28 years or so. The last decent era of Gibson was before the weigh relief bodies and stuff. 1990s. But i cant imagine spending $2700 when for $450-600 you can build a killer guitar that plays so well. Believe me im sure there are plenty of junk Chibsons. But in the past 5-7 years the quality has gone up. They know how to do frets now. That in itself is scary. For the $240 ish gamble its worth it imho especially if you were thinking about spending $2700 on a real Gibson. If ya have that type of money take the $240 gamble and have some fun and learn something along the way. Just funny when you see people who trash these guitars and they KNOW already that the pickups and tuners etc are trash, but they complain about it in their videos anyways. Your not gonna get a perfectly setup guitar for $240. But what you will get is the basis for making yourself a wonderful guitar. $450-600 and on top of it, it says Gibson if you want. But most places will put what ever you want on the headstock.
@@ctcards2636 Im getting my sister who has a machine to make me a Chibson headstock logo ;D. I play this thing everyday and it amazes me when I finally break out the tuner and its spot on after a week and a half of playing. you dont get that with a gibson and that crazy headstock angle. I have recorded a few songs as well and the tone I am getting out of my amp with the Seymour Duncan saturday night special pickups is sweet and warm. I have had quite a few guitars over the years and this one I cannot put down.
@@bryanmanx Id say for every 10 of these Chibsons sold, 4-6 are pretty well made guitars. The other 4 may not be so nice. Def pays to research who you buy one of these off. But that gets back to what i was saying about Gibson, i dont think their quality is any better. Id say every other Gibson i pick up is not a very well made guitar these days. Sit down with it long enough and there are issues that should not exist on a $2700 guitar you will discover. :-) Also the two i had stayed in tune fine, no issues. I seriously had to laugh because i was not expecting these to be this good. I want to order a few more and mod them and give them away to some of my friends and band mates. One of my band members has a $3600 Les Paul semi hollow model and he has issues with the neck, wasnt put in right. Can get the action correct, neck is twist, have to lower bridge til its touching the body and even then its not low enough. Guitar is a mess. When he tried out one of these, he was unaware that it was a fake and started jamming on it and he said "Wow Gibsons quality must have gone up recently!" !!!!! lol. The fake blew is $3600 real Gibson away. Wasnt even close. Thats my issue with Gibson. If you knew you were gonna get a quality guitar when spending that much, i can see why some people would want to do that. But the quality does not match the price. Just because it says Gibson on it ? Bogus.
@@ctcards2636 One tip I offer to people is look for Chibsons with transparent varnish front, back and neck. a dark opaque chibson is a good way to hide God knows what kind of wood problems.
I have seven of them. All have been or are in the process of replacing Electronics and Tuners. I have had phenomenal luck with the sellers I have dealt with. And they all play nicely. This review is probably the most honest one done of a chibson.
Just got my first one. Tuners awful. Are the tuner holes 10mm? That's gotta be my first upgrade
@@JEFFERYPAUL1 it's kind of a crap shoot. If it's at Les Paul Custom type I found mine to be 10 mm. If it's a Les Paul Standard it's probably an 8 mm. Nonetheless I purchased a set of kluson lockers that were 10 mm and I had to ring the hole up in my standard from 8 to 10. Best thing to do is pull a tuner and measure the hole. And the other trick is if the tuner uses a press in bushing in the headstock it's probably not 10 mm. If it uses a feral nut it's probably 10 mm.
@@edgaeta2001 thank you for the information. Much appreciated!!
@@JEFFERYPAUL1 you are very welcome good luck and have fun modifying them, they are worth it. The funny thing is, I have seven Chibson's and one Epiphone. And the Epiphone seems to be the one to give me the most trouble.
They get progressively worse as the neck starts to warp.
My son and I got Greco's instead of Gibsons,1979 Greco RG 750 Standard LP and a 1980's SG Standard and there is no reason to get a Gibson anymore well maybe a double cut Jr unless we find a Greco. $700 & $800 were each guitar and now a day's Epiphones are going for that much 😕. But it's about the individual player in the end and it's cool you found a guitar you really like 👍
I changed the pots (CTS), switch, wiring and plastics on my Jimmy Page chibson. The fake Grovers work fine after tightening, pickups are good also. It's got a maple laminate but the tone and sustain are great all the same.
If you enjoy playing it and it sounds alright then enjoy
Try some EMG pickups or Seymour Duncan you'll hear the difference Seymour Duncan Blackouts
i have 3 LP style Agiles, all have a full 3/4 maple cap, not a veneer or photo. All 2nd hand, 2 cost $400, 1 cost $250. 2 have new pots and pups, 1 all ive done is different strings, done a set up, but this thing sounds a lot like Koss, not me, the guitar, the tone is awesome for trying to play Free! The other 2 one has 57 and 57 plus pups, CTS pots with full Jimmy wiring.Againg i gave it a set up, really does sound and play awesome. The last has SD Whole Lotta Humbuckers, CTS pots with coil split on both, pure tone jack, i did the frets as well as set up. Those SD's are incredible, oh, i used emerson pio's as well, and this thing has incredible tonal range! For a total of around $1800 i have 3 guitars that all play great, have incredible sound, all different, but awesome, and i would definitely put them against any $2500 Gibson! Oh one thing, these are pretty hefty!
My buddy loaned me an agile for a couple weeks. That thing played like a boss. He hadn't done anything to it. Was shocking how quiet it was, no buzz, no hum. You'd forget it was on.
I own a 97 studio and did about the same changes. Bought it used with 496/500 pups and to keep up I changed the pots and wiring, switch and jack. For more reliable I changed the bridge and tailpiece, the tuners and nut. Now it rocks and supposedly I took away from the value but I would never believe that.
All that matters is how well they play. They are not Pokémon cards 😁😁
Also how much you want to play with it. So every individual can get better at guitar. Both my guitars are art as much as tools because I love looking at them.
@@sparkyguitar0058Ya its super important to feel inspired when you look at them.
Your music, your art just magnificient
got yourself a new sub here
hails from drauglur from germany
Danke
I've owned an Austin LP guitar (Indonesia) which was not bad at all (as in did NOT need any upgrades). But honestly the 2 real Les Pauls I have are both Classics, one is a classic limited edition Teaburst faded (nice flame on it) and the other is an Ebony. I know the flame you see is likely a veneer or paper (more likely paper). Both of my Gibsons are exceptional and I'm super happy with my purchases. But I did play a lot of Gibsons before finding the right ones... thats the thing, and that goes with every guitar (Fenders...) the one you first pick up in the store may not feel right or have a lot of dings or customer demo scars. It takes time to find the right one.
A new guitar can never be compared to one that's old with settled wood thathas had alot of care over the years. We shall see how the chibson holds up nice thing is if it doesn't I can transfer my upgrades to something else and I have not lost much money
I have purchased recently a couple Chibsons (LP and a ES-345) and a Chickenbacker 325 and I am extremely pleased with them, right out of the box (well, I had to do a complete setup but I had to do that on the real Gibsons and Fenders I own as well). I do understand the consequence of someone passing these off as the real thing, but that will never be me. That being said I would guess Gibson, et al are very happy to sell someone their hardware/electronics to upgrade a Chibson. Those parts have a very high profit margin.
Agreed. I immediately painted over my fake logo and added a chibson logo on mine. I friggin love this guitar. It's definitely not a les Paul but it kinda stands on its own as a quirky but excellent guitar
You do You, man! You got what you wanted. Ain't mad at ya.
I ordered mine with stainless steel fret. They have the option of adding CTS pots, Orange drop resistors as long as you pay extra but i didn't go for it as they are not going to be original electronics. I ended up only self modded the nut to a tusq nut, changed the bridge and both humbuckers to gotoh Tune-o-matic and a pair of seymour duncan alnico 2 slash respectively.
That's awesome. Ordering a chibson is like the old days of buying a guitar. Nothing is certain and personal upgrades and tweaks are a must
I own 3 firefly LPs and my chibson cherry burst standard LP blew me away,don’t get me wrong I’m a big firefly fan,and even though I love my flys,this chibson is right up there with epi phone,,probably the closest you can get to the real thing for the money,if I could start over my guitar collection, would have gotten all chibsons period,they are that good.
My favorite part is you can put your money in upgrades and customizing it to make it personal without adding dollars to something that already cost alot and might be too scared to even tinker with.
I know this vid is now 2 years old. But I would like to know what nut and where did you buy it. Also how much work was needed?
@@stehairy a.co/d/4h65qZc I am no luthier and I had no trouble getting things spot on.
Hey Brian,
Who is the seller? would like to order one and replace all parts that you did. Nice sound and looks
the link to that particular guitar is no longer valid but here is the seller www.dhgate.com/store/20687482#st-navigation-storehome
ONLY people for whom money is no object should ever buy a Gibson LP! Look, you get a Chibson, do the recommended upgrades and tweaks - to the ear only, VERY few will ever know they're not hearing an actual Gibson LP. Add in the fact that the Epiphone LPs aren't exceptionally built either. Ethically, I think I would not have a fake Gibson logo put on my Chibson. At the end of the day, as you can swap out maybe $300 in parts to turn a Chibson into a very nice playing guitar, and as their build quality has become rather impressive the last couple of years, I'd go for it! For me, the bottom lines are the quality of the sound and playability. Ultimately, you simply can't hear a logo or legacy, but you CAN hear and see tons of marketing hype as well as feel a much lighter wallet associated with the the purchase of a Gibson LP, and to a lesser degree, the Epiphones as well. Now, will you ever recoup your investment on a Chibson? That's questionable, perhaps unlikely. But if you plan to have a great guitar with a FAR more modest investment that you plan to play for a very long time, a Chibson could be well worth it. My three cents, anyway.
I have 5 Gibson Firebird (replicas) and I'm satisfied with them.
Satisfaction is the name of the game
I up graded type in 4,500 chibson part one and two thanks
I have two Harley Benton SG style guitars and both have recieved a similar treatment. Top flight appointments are not too pricey if you install them yourself. I think all in on my 3-pup custom I am at about 600 bucks. Not bad at all.
that's awesome! I've been thinking about picking up an HB have not heard anything negative other than some hardware upgrade requirements.
Hi looks lovely Guitar could you let me know what website you bought it from? Thanks Harry
Here you go Harry. www.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html?invitationCode=5eab96102a0e46858d942052c1253cba%7C-%7C622829772&shareToken=1594C6C9C030ABD57F19953827677649679619B2FC7FB8ADD885D981C451B1E68B9219109107323E32AE43DDD1DFC097DEE41E753786BA8C
I had a friend over for a jam. He owns a gibson les paul, and I own chibsons. Believe it or not, he preferred playing my chibson les paul standard, over his own real gibson.
Nice!
I think that's the pitfall some people make though. People treat all Gibsons as automatically the best for them, whereas every player needs to find a good match and not be afraid to mod it to their tastes. I've seen some tasteful mods to Gibson Studios and even Standards that have been some of the greatest guitars I've ever played. Not all Gibsons are great, but the ones that are usually blow everything else out the water when plugged into a good amp that lets it shine
Realistically, I’d recommend anyone to just buy an epiphone. A good way to get into the LP market. Chibsons are a hit or miss, and are usually a miss. Nuances like the scale length being off, neck angle and how it’s been set. Chibsons are pretty junk. If you want a reliable guitar, I’d recommend an epiphone, as they’re gonna have much better QC. Only thing chibsons are cool for is for experiments and projects imo.
ya totally depends on what you are looking for. this one has been a fun experiment and an interesting conversation piece. everyone sees it and says "hey les paul" but when I tell them it's a chibson they want to pick it up and play it and inspect it
Great video, when buyin one how do u know its the laTest upgrade?
It's a gamble every time
Thanks man this inspired me… but I didn’t get lucky on the neck… my Chibsons neck feels very cheap how can I fix that!? Ideas anyone?
Oh no sorry to hear that. They are glued on so you may be able to swap it but getting it off might be difficult. One advice I have for people buying a chibson is to make sure the back of the neck and body has transparent stain. This way you can see the wood and where any joints may be.
Regardless of the upgrades, that LES PAUL ( I don't care that it was made in China) of yours obviously has the right 'ring orientation' , concerning the wood used to make it. A great sounding guitar at a FAIR price ! It is sad when you play a $3,500 Gibson that sounds ' Lifeless'...
I love my made in China Les Paul, in fact, I've only ever played ONE Les Paul (Gibson) that was as good. I put a belly bevel on mine.
Solid chibby. I’m sure someone who overpaid for plywood has a clenching sphincter right about now.
Curious, does the Chibby duplicate the Gibson headstock design flaw?
no apparently they didn't need to stay true to the flaw
Follow up question. Does it compare to this guys Gibson tone?
m.th-cam.com/video/7-NOZU2iPA8/w-d-xo.html
@@marcusbrockus I have been trying to acheive that cartoon erection sproing sound for years. I think i must be unaware of some Boss sproing pedal that's out there.
Well i can tell you the Marshall JCM series cannot attain such tonal perfection.
I am sure that wood are was cut by a CNC machine and then finish by hand. CNC machines are awesome!
I want one. And a 3d printer.
Have you heard of the harley benton scc550 ii? Its the best Les Paul copy out there i promise you. Check it out. For only $275 it comes with stainless steel jumbo frets a mahogany body and set neck, full size pots, amazing finish and build quality, only thing that would need replacing if you were to replace anything are the pickups and tuners albeit the pickups sound nice as is
I looked very closely at those and even had a friend leave over a really good one. I really think it was the curiosity that got the best of me. what's crazy Is I think the finish on this chinese one is better than the alternatives I have looked at. I may pick up a Harley benton in a couple months lol
Its made in the same factory as the chibsons.
@@snap-off5383 but it has a brand name that sounds american and thats what people like to hear even if the inspection sticker says 爱 燕
@@bryanmanx I should order my next one with *'Murica!!!* on it
@@snap-off5383 yes then you will get da respeck
Me too have an idea to buy the chibson guitar what is your idea? Lots of negative romur roaming on TH-cam...
I got really lucky. One think I can suggest is to only look at chibsons that have clear varnish. If it has solid paint you cannot see if it's wood or many pieces of glued wood underneath. If neck varnish Is clear you can see if it's a solid neck or if it has a joint. I am loving mine and considering buying another of different style
Great job.
Nitro cellulose finish?
Coming from China where they don't have an EPA I wouldn't be surprised. Will be hard to tell if it yellows with time given that it's already yellow lol.
mine WILL rival any standard coming out of Nashville!!!
Peopke don't realize that many of the people that manufacture these are disciplined and take alot of pride in their work even though they are doing them in bulk.
Amen 2 that!! The workmanship of my 2017 standard is far better than anything frm Nashville 4 the last 10 years!!!
Got mine in about 10 days
Woot! Can't wait to hear about it
WHERE/HOW in the world does an American find/buy a Chibson?
Dhgate dot com
you can share the seller ?
m.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html?invitationCode=5eab96102a0e46858d942052c1253cba|-|622829772&shareToken=1594C6C9C030ABD57F19953827677649679619B2FC7FB8ADD885D981C451B1E68B9219109107323E32AE43DDD1DFC097DEE41E753786BA8C
@@bryanmanx thank you man and hellow from dominican republic !
can you post a link where you buy this guitar
www.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html
How do you get it to squeal and scream like that?
Pinch harmonics. Play with a rounded corner of the pick and roll the skin of your thumb close to the edge of the pick so when the note is played the string will barely strike the skin of your thumb, this will create a harmonic squeal.
Where do you get a good quality chibson no one ever talks about the best source for them.
Agree, I would buy a Gibson LesPaul classic if it was 1000 dollars cheaper. 2800.00 usd for a guitar from a company who has questionable quality control and basically shamed people for not buying their guitars.. Have people forgotten that? The play heritage campaign? yeah, that was genius on their part.
www.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html
Dhgate and ebay has them,, if they dont show the headstock in the pics most likely a chibson 😂.. i got mine of dhgate
Great
What did they call that color?
They didn't really call it any color. It kinda has an 'I fell asleep piss drunk and dehydrated in white spandex with a gold prince albert and let my bladder go" color scheme. It's kinda epic m.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html?invitationCode=5eab96102a0e46858d942052c1253cba|-|622829772&shareToken=1594C6C9C030ABD57F19953827677649679619B2FC7FB8ADD885D981C451B1E68B9219109107323E32AE43DDD1DFC097DEE41E753786BA8C
sounds like a heavily distorted 300$ guitar
I'm sorry for your loss
@@bryanmanx haven't lost anything, but not as sorry as anyone watching this vid
That’s what I hear when someone plugs in their LP Classic. $300 guitar with a $2,700 mark up for a logo.
@@marcusbrockus sure, you're not too bright, so feel free to babble all you like
Brighter than the dull sound of a fool easily parted with his money, or if you prefer the dull sound of an over priced guitar.
Your response was cute though.
Tuner holes 10mm??
these are the tuners I switched to Grover Accordion Accessory (102-18G) a.co/d/gN75spd
There are better guitars for less with QC, warranty and support. And working components, correctly placed bridge etc... the only reason to spend more on a Chibson is because you care what the headstock says... if you just want a good Les Paul the options are endless. However they don't say Gibson on the headstock.
Mine no longer says Gibson on the headstock 😁 it now says Chibson. And everyone that plays it wants one. What started as a joke became something really amazing.
@@bryanmanx Fair enough but you never know what you get. Sometimes it simply can't be intonated because the bridge isn't in the right place etc... electronics non functional, sub par craftsmanship... in the age of extremely good sub 400€ guitars I don't see the point. I got a Harley Benton SC550+ for 370€. Perfect all stock. Locking tuners, EMG pickups, very high quality fretwork, beautifully made. And I can send it back anytime, I can get a refund or a discount if somethings off and I prefer it to some real Gibbons, like a Les Paul Studio, which is quite bland in comparison, no binding nothing. 10 years ago sure but now you can get amazing guitars from actual legal manufacturers for less than a Chibson + basic upgrades. But if you sanded off the logo fair enough. I'd rather mine just says Epiphone or Harley Benton or Cort or Ibanez... the age of cheap guitars has begun. Don't believe me? Buy a TE62DB. 158€. Lake Placid Blue is my recommendation. Neck perfect, pickups wonderful, pots fine, build great, action super low, fretwork near flawless, just gave it a polish and rounded the neck a little for a vintage feel. It's superior to any Squier and I would use it even if I had a Fender because I'm not afraid to scratch it or damage it. Best Telecaster I played since a made in US Fender, which was different nor necessarily better...
@@221b-l3t yea I've got a really good 86 strat that feels like it got blessed. Recently picked up a $160 schecter that is surprisingly good. I've also got an f hole Kay that I've had since new for nearly 30 years that is fantastic. I assumed this chibson was gonna be a junker when I ordered it but I was just curious more than anything. I do see a Harley benton in my future. I've heard many great things. The chibson will always remain as a funny quirk of a guitar that leaves people shaking their heads. If it ever warps or does some weird Chinese stuff I can guarantee my $600 in upgrades will go right over to the Harley benton. BTW if anyone ever tells you that pickups are not important they have never played with those duncan Saturday night specials. They had a bit of a price tag but damnit man.
@@bryanmanx Duncans are okay but if you want true perfect tone, go for Toneriders. Alnico 2 Classic are replacing all my Duncan and Gibson pickups. I actually would wager my SC550+ would beat the Chibson. Because it has annoyed people. If you told me it cost 1500€ I would think wow, the fretwork is nicer than my Gibson and the tuning stability sure is better with the 14° headstock and reduced side angle behind the nut. Plus they have a cutout on the neck so high fret access is good for a Les Paul. You can always return Thomann stuff so I highly recommend giving either the SC550+ or the TE62DB a try. I have very expensive guitars but really my Harley Telecaster and Tonerider Epiphone are my best sounding guitars. Depends where you live, America can be expensive with shipping from Germany but Europe it's hell of a deal. Not quite sure how they do it. People who never heard of HB just assume it's some boutique Telecaster that cost two grand or more.
But DEFINETLY try Toneriders. Half the price of Duncans and they sound better than plenty of original 1958 PAFs. Alnico 2 Classic that is, I can't vouch for the rest. My JB/59 loaded Les Paul is retired. Sound not satisfactory. I'll sell them both for two sets of Toneriders one for the Les Paul and one for the Gibson. It has nice pickups, Burstbuckers. Great stuff. But it doesn't come close to the Epiphone in sound now. I also put in coil split CTS pots and an orange drop capacitor. So lovely... give it a try if you're into value. I'm annoyed now my expensive guitars don't have locking tuners because the ones in the Benton are fantastic but it feels wrong putting them in an LTD or Gibson... regardless I will proceed. Tuning stability goes above what the tuners cost or what brand they are, especially on a Gibson style guitar that's not exactly super stable. I swear my Gibson is the worst. The Epiphones have the reduced headstock angle and that helps a bunch. Shame Gibson chooses tradition over function... but it's what the people want.
You should probably tell people that the Chibson Rosewood is NOT Rosewood and the Ebony is NOT Ebony, the fret wire is garbage and will wear at least twice as fast as normal, all electronics are junk, pickup are crap, AND it's always going to questionable at to what you actually receive from them. I have 5 or six of them - and I've modified them all - but I understand that the necks will likely warp easier because they use cheap wood and glue. They seem good...for a while....but after a few years, you're definitely going to see issues pop up - bad truss rods, the finish wears much faster, etc. They're fine for what they are, but if you buy a $2500 Gibson, it's going to be worth at least $2,000 for the next 10 years. These are counterfeit copies that will never increase in value. You can pretty easily find them for $150. You get what you pay for.
A year in and I've had no issue. I was curious what the fretboard was. I assumed nothing was as listed. When I removed the nut I could see the tight grain of the fretboard wood at the end. I honestly thought I'd see a different color at the end discovering a dark stained pine fretboard. but it's the same color throughout the fretboard. The clearboat on the body allows a view of the solid piece of wood underneath and the lack of joints in the neck. Unlike the $150 chibsons this one had perhaps a smidge more care at $350. But yes you always get what you pay for but it's amazing what Chinese can do for so little. If the same Luthier were to build with top end wood and accessories the result would be unmatched.
hello, where can i find a guitar like this?
www.dhgate.com/product/electric-guitar-g-custom-guitar-ebony-fingerboard/622829772.html
Yeah fake Grover tuner's suck you did the right thing
I filmed how floppy they were in comparison to the real ones but unfortunately the camera wasn't on lol
You all are missing a couple of important things, one i don't like support the communist party of China so I go out of my way to buy elsewhere when possible, and 2, when you save or make payments to something you desire and pay it off you tend to hold and take care of said item. In the late 70s early 80s my parents bought brand new TV that cost 1200 and you take care of it, no rough housing around it, clean it ect, it was a major thing. I work with a guy that let his kid break 3 tv's in a year, why? Because he would just buy another for 150 bucks and not care. Cheap and disposal isn't good and if you hang on to a fake chibson and hand it down it means nothing, when I hand my Gibson, Dean, Charvel etc to my kid it means something 20 years down the road.
Not hating on anybody's choices, play what you want and spend how you want. One final thing, Yes Slash played a fake les paul but it wasn't built in China, I'm pretty sure it was build by an American luthier and when Slash had money he bought a Gibson because he knows somehow it feels different, it is an accomplishment in a way.
Like I said, whatever makes you happy, but I thought I would offer a different view. It does sound good 👍
Fortunately these don't come from the communist party but from extremely skilled craftsmen who just happens to be Chinese. Does the communist party benefit? Probably but same thing happens when you buy from some American companies like GM. I do think it is important at times to buy the cheap knock off just to help hold the craftsmen to their trade. If someone can do this for pennies on the dollar what are the craftsmen actually charging for.
@@bryanmanx every business in China has to support the the CCP like it of not my friend, they don't have a choice. If you support business in China a part of your money supports what the CCP does, kidnapping their own citizens, locking them up against their will, selling them food that made so many babies sick, welding them in their apartments. Seriously what do you think happens with the money you spend? And honestly everyone that gets their ass hairs up when I just state facts and my own opinion people sometimes get mad, but I really don't mind. If you have a garden in China I believe you as the owner of the garden only get 15% and the rest has to go to the government. I get there are good people there, but there are good people here and need support and other countries too. No offense to you, but f#ck China.
@@JoeBlack1108 I'm with ya bro. It just sucks that nearly everything comes from there.
@@bryanmanx ya I know, alot of companies use China for cheap labor especially the government there. It is a shame because they do have very skilled people. That is a nice guitar you got, keep rocking my friend.
@TSB-pg6yo I am sitting here having a coffee with my friend Fu and showed him your comment and said you missed the point. He is canadian, and his family is from China and had one of the nest Chinese food restaurants in town before they retired about 4 or 5 years ago, furthermore him and i have been friend since The Pump House days(power lifter gym) which was 20 years. Fu says, "Take your racist glass off and think about what you're reading". It has nothing to do with the Chinese people, I would have no problem ordering a custom guitar as long as most of the money is going to the skilled labor, not the Communist party.
Supporting the pirate industry is wrong....period. There are much better alternatives like Harley Benton, LyxPro, Ivy and higher quality builds like Cort, Wolf, Agile and many more that are around the $300 USD price tag. And insulting rolex owners inferring that owning a Gibson is bragging is plain insulting. Supporting fakes is wrong!
People who buy knock offs have no intention of buying the actual thing so no harm no faul
@@bryanmanx No harm? Really? Try the fact that its putting a registered brand name that doesnt belong to them, its pirating, a copy right infringement, not to mention some have and will continue to sell the fake to unsuspecting buyers as the real thing. Thats what wrong with supporting these crooks.
@@dragan4658 if they can make these for less money why doesn't Gibson do the same? They are using the same machinery, the same wood. The knock offs only appear if the original is over priced else what would be the point.
@@bryanmanx wow! I would think with all the information on the internet you would educate yourself. Stop being a troll, you ignore all the facts Ive stated and you evidently have no clue about marketing or quality if you think the wood and other parts are the same as the Gibson.
@@dragan4658 you don't understand what I am saying. I don't want a Gibson. Never have and never will. It's been proven over and over that electric guitars don't require as much craftsmanship as once thought and can be built out of random household junk and be pretty damned good.
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Sounded punchy as ..
😁
Why people buy these counterfeit garbage guitars when there are legally made guitars priced with the same body shapes that cost less and are built better and it isn’t close.
some are garbage and some are not. it's kinda like gambling. this one is fantastic and I upgraded just as I would have had I bought an epiphone or a Harley Benton.
@@bryanmanx the point is, when you buy an illegally made and distributed guitar that has a fake logo, serial number, and lies about where its made you are encouraging this terrible behavior. Even if these were the best guitars ever made that fact doesn’t change, its beyond unethical and illegal on top of what I previously said about them being redundant and unnecessary when other makers build better guitars that aren’t fakes.
@@xjimmemakesmusicx to the point of the logo you are correct I honestly didnt know what the logo would be since they don't show the logo in the listing.
@@xjimmemakesmusicx but unlike acoustic guitars electrics are really just a block of hardwood with a neck. if gibson didn't charge such a premium for something that can easily be ripped off these counterfeiters wouldn't exist.
@@bryanmanx That's such a cop out and you have just exposed the real reason you and likely many others buy these trash counterfeit guitars - you blame Gibson for charging so much but you WANT your guitar to say Gibson on the headstock so badly you will buy an illegal replica instead of an ESP LTD, Edwards, Harley Benton, Sire, Vintage, Greco, Burny, Epiphone, Coolz, PRS SE SC etc. So bash gibson all you want, at the end of the day it's what you actually want - the logo on the headstock or you'd have one of those instead.
enjoy your illegal replica, i'm out
Fake! That’s really all one needs to know🤷🏼♂️
whats fake about it. its made out of hardwood. hand flamed maple veneer actually has a better headstock design than the gibson. plays well and is priced at what an electric guitar should be priced at. unlike an accoustic electric guitars don't need much to make them great. a badge or a high price tag doesn't have any effect on the sound.
@@bryanmanx "...what an electric guitar should be priced at..." ah, another arbiter of economic integrity.
"...high price tag doesn't have any effect on the sound..." having heard it, clearly there's something in it.
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Another arbiter of the quality of sound via the internet and simple external microphones.
We are all fortunate to have your amazing sense of hearing to guide us through these troubling times.
@@marcusbrockus Obviously uneducated and lack expertise!
Gibsons are highly overpriced and luka any brand you need to play at least 10 before bringing one home, as many have flaws just as the fakes do.
Why do people buy these garbage copies?
You can buy 15 for the price of a comperable Gibson.