To explain the cornerstone mask in some palkia lists: the main reason to play it is because of how frail area zero underdepths is. Your opponent can force you to discard your extra bench pokemon by either removing the stadium or by knocking out your only tera pokemon in play some players have decided that none of the basic tera ex pokemon are good enough to be played in palkia and they would rather have a tera ex that is hard to remove on the board, and cornerstone mask fits that role the best That's also why players don't add a fighting energy, you really don't push cornerstone into the active unless you really don't have anything better to do, is mostly there to be a safe pokemon on the bench.
Some of these lists are clearly optimised for BO1 such as the pult list. I'd expect the rescue board to be cut for a turo, plus maybe 1 more card for pal pad
@@strikex7959 I don’t think it’ll ever be that popular, but giratina is better against kyurem than lost zone box is. It’s definitely in a better spot in the meta than turbo lost zone. Giratina’s biggest challenge right now is raging bolt.
@@marcotassini6483 if it does do that, it doesn’t happen very often or Regidrago still bricks too much because Giratina has had a positive win rate against Regidrago since the release of kyurem (LimitlessTCG). The only meta deck that beats Giratina easily is Raging Bolt because of Fezandipiti ex. Everything else is about 50/50.
That wall deck looks like it has the most polarizing matchups lol, like you have either a 80-20 or 20-80 matchup against it and there is no in between.
No galvantula is surprising. I thought that archetype would come out swinging. That being said, I'm glad it's not too good atm, it seems annoying to play against.
Id like to play a few cups or challenges soon. I havent played since worlds 2019, and am pretty fond of lugia. Is it a viable deck for the upcoming meta?
My buddy went to a League Cup (his first) and went undefeated and got first beating Snorlax in the finals (one of the best players in the area) so it is very viable. If you can start a Lugia V and pitch 2 Archeops turn one, you normally win.
Actually, I talked to a few judges and profs and the Crystal, it actually costs 0 energy to use Phantom Dive because each type is reduced by one. So -1 for each energy type, that's why the card is so good. It is specifically designed to allow the new Stellar Crystal Pokémon to attack for free. Dragapult benefits from his Dragon type simply because he has 2 different energy costs.
I believe the wording would be “every type of energy” not “any type of energy” in this case, but I’ll wait to see the official English translation and ruling.
Thats not true, it makes an attack cost ONE energy less like how would a Rainbow energy only fullfills the cost of a singular energy as it does not count as two diferents energies
This is not how it works. Source: live in Japan and if you tried to use it this way you would get laughed at. It only reduces it by one which is still really good
Is Japan's format always 1-2 expansions ahead? So weird that they never standardized the formats. Feels like it puts some level of compromise on international play when they aren't the same. Ig it isn't as bad as TCG vs OCG in Yugioh.
Isn't this the default situation for most Japanese card games? Yugioh is the same thing being 2-3 sets behind and different banlists for Worlds. What made Yugioh especially different from other card games was important promos being released years apart and the sheer diversity of innovation between TCG and OCG that OCG banlists many times would not address problem cards in the TCG and visa versa. The creation of online video games like PCTGO and Master Duel is the best way for international play as everyone has access to the same online cards with the same release date.
@@SomniaCE If this has been the standard for 20+ years then there's no reason to change it. How often do you interact with a Japanese player (if you're not in Asia)? People actually like having what is called 'clairvoyance' where we can save money by determining what cards are successful from Japan. This is very common with gacha games too where you can save money because we're two years behind Japan and know ahead of time what characters are worth saving for.
@christianlay-geng Lame imo. I will gladly take a universal paper format over the extremely mild convenience of seeing a few results from a set before it hits stateside, esp when the Pokemon TCG is the easiest TCG to rate cards in. Yugioh OCG using a unique banlist and having such a unique format has also led to tons of instances of archetypes doing well or flopping in OCG but flopping or being stronger over here. Not that TCG sets and gacha are all that comparable imo given the intense resource management or whaling cost of a gacha vs the relatively modest amount of money needed to buy a few singles from a new TCG set that is officially spoiled weeks in advance anyways. Yeah I guess you get to see a regional and some locals from Japan that let you know if something is as mediocre or as broken as people assume they will be but most of the time the early reviews are spot on. Idk literally every other competitive game you can play has universal rulesets and conditions that allow anyone to compete with anyone at anytime in an official capacity. But all I really care about is that I don't view a mild amount of foresight being worth a feeling of arbitrary separation between the scenes until official international competition just forces a unified cardpool anyway. Obv it will never change, just kinda wish it did.
@@SomniaCE You misunderstand my argument about gatcha. It's a cultural thing not specifically stuck to card games. Obv card games could speed up release to catch up with Japanese. Then logically they don't because certain Japan/OCG companies ensure their release first. You see that in anime collab merchandise or Japanese video game releases companies may put their release before international. For some reason MtG or Hoyoverse games didn't have a problem moving to simultaneous release worldwide so for me people who argue 'translating takes time' falls flat to me.
Why do you think regidrago won't be a top contender in the stellar crown environment? The only issue I see is raging bolt on the rise but I feel like you can easily fix that with jamming tower + radiant zard. Zard will be still great matchup, dragapult feels a little bit favoured imo as well. I feel pretty confident going into the new format with Regidrago Vstar :) I would like to know your thoughts on this.
It might very well be a top contender but it will be one of the top decks, not the best deck. The worlds meta will carry over with the turbo decks being able to combat drago as well as dragapult ex attacking turn 2 more consistently, palkia vstar being a new archetype that regdriago is unfavored vs. . we’ll probably see Regidrago come down to around 8-12% metashares and be around tier 1 to high tier 2.
It’s not uncommon for Japanese players to run one-of cards in their lists specifically to “trick” their opponent into playing around a threat that isn’t actually there. (Tricking opponents to play around Greninja snipe when it actually isn’t possible with 1 water)
force a benched manaphy to take up what could be a draw pokemon. Not great idea to use a trick in BO3 but in japan where they play BO1 its interesting.
Terapagos is part of the palkia deck. It’s very good specifically with palkia so far. Hydrapple on the other hand I’ll cover from smaller tournaments soon!
I don’t think you explained Briar correctly, you can only play it when your opp is at 2 prizes remaining so you can’t make the 4 prize play you’re describing
The opponent is at 2 prizes, you can be at any amount of prizes. So if you're at 4 prizes here, you can play briar while your opponents at 2, ko the active for 3 and one of the bench for 1 with the phantom dive counters.
To explain the cornerstone mask in some palkia lists:
the main reason to play it is because of how frail area zero underdepths is. Your opponent can force you to discard your extra bench pokemon by either removing the stadium or by knocking out your only tera pokemon in play
some players have decided that none of the basic tera ex pokemon are good enough to be played in palkia and they would rather have a tera ex that is hard to remove on the board, and cornerstone mask fits that role the best
That's also why players don't add a fighting energy, you really don't push cornerstone into the active unless you really don't have anything better to do, is mostly there to be a safe pokemon on the bench.
Great insight, thank you!
Also because its because cornerstone can attack Terapagos Ex
@@domingoaltermattedwards6209can’t attack though because no fighting energy
Some of these lists are clearly optimised for BO1 such as the pult list. I'd expect the rescue board to be cut for a turo, plus maybe 1 more card for pal pad
nice video man, really liked it. i loved the first gardevoir build and palkia with iron valiant, might try them.
I’ve been believing in Giratina LZ since it came out. Glad to see it 8-0
Better hope it Dosent get too popular again otherwise people will be putting in the kyrum
@@strikex7959 I don’t think it’ll ever be that popular, but giratina is better against kyurem than lost zone box is. It’s definitely in a better spot in the meta than turbo lost zone.
Giratina’s biggest challenge right now is raging bolt.
But kyurem by himself still demolish Giratina LZ
@@marcotassini6483 if it does do that, it doesn’t happen very often or Regidrago still bricks too much because Giratina has had a positive win rate against Regidrago since the release of kyurem (LimitlessTCG). The only meta deck that beats Giratina easily is Raging Bolt because of Fezandipiti ex. Everything else is about 50/50.
That wall deck looks like it has the most polarizing matchups lol, like you have either a 80-20 or 20-80 matchup against it and there is no in between.
I run noivern because of big basic decks in regidrago all you got to do is not bench 6 prizes to lock them out of the game
got hit with the no stadium attack last night testing festival grounds D:
I miss when noivern was a concensus cut haha
Mist energy is your enemy
@@marcotassini6483mist energy doesn’t block Noivern. Noivern’s effect is granted to itself, not against the opponents Pokemon
No galvantula is surprising. I thought that archetype would come out swinging. That being said, I'm glad it's not too good atm, it seems annoying to play against.
It seems like a broken card
Id like to play a few cups or challenges soon. I havent played since worlds 2019, and am pretty fond of lugia.
Is it a viable deck for the upcoming meta?
My buddy went to a League Cup (his first) and went undefeated and got first beating Snorlax in the finals (one of the best players in the area) so it is very viable. If you can start a Lugia V and pitch 2 Archeops turn one, you normally win.
great tree is amazing into zard omg
Actually, I talked to a few judges and profs and the Crystal, it actually costs 0 energy to use Phantom Dive because each type is reduced by one. So -1 for each energy type, that's why the card is so good. It is specifically designed to allow the new Stellar Crystal Pokémon to attack for free. Dragapult benefits from his Dragon type simply because he has 2 different energy costs.
I believe the wording would be “every type of energy” not “any type of energy” in this case, but I’ll wait to see the official English translation and ruling.
That’s nuts if that’s the case
Thats not true, it makes an attack cost ONE energy less like how would a Rainbow energy only fullfills the cost of a singular energy as it does not count as two diferents energies
But can they read japanese?
This is not how it works. Source: live in Japan and if you tried to use it this way you would get laughed at. It only reduces it by one which is still really good
Awww I wanna see Terapagos and the colorless archetype get some love now…
More terapagos deck lists here! th-cam.com/video/HjndGIfKtcw/w-d-xo.html
Why world you chose to play the big three in Charizard instead of the stamp?
Do you think regidrago will still be tier 1 next set (Stellar Crown)?
Either tier 1 or close by in tier 2. I doubt it will drop any further than that.
Is zoroark vstar/terapagos going well on japan?
Zoroark will be released in Stellar Crown or the next set
@@marcotassini6483Hes talking about the vstar?
Is Japan's format always 1-2 expansions ahead? So weird that they never standardized the formats. Feels like it puts some level of compromise on international play when they aren't the same.
Ig it isn't as bad as TCG vs OCG in Yugioh.
Isn't this the default situation for most Japanese card games? Yugioh is the same thing being 2-3 sets behind and different banlists for Worlds. What made Yugioh especially different from other card games was important promos being released years apart and the sheer diversity of innovation between TCG and OCG that OCG banlists many times would not address problem cards in the TCG and visa versa. The creation of online video games like PCTGO and Master Duel is the best way for international play as everyone has access to the same online cards with the same release date.
@christianlay-geng Yeah it is the standard but I just wish it was not the standard 20+ years into these game's existing.
@@SomniaCE If this has been the standard for 20+ years then there's no reason to change it. How often do you interact with a Japanese player (if you're not in Asia)? People actually like having what is called 'clairvoyance' where we can save money by determining what cards are successful from Japan. This is very common with gacha games too where you can save money because we're two years behind Japan and know ahead of time what characters are worth saving for.
@christianlay-geng Lame imo. I will gladly take a universal paper format over the extremely mild convenience of seeing a few results from a set before it hits stateside, esp when the Pokemon TCG is the easiest TCG to rate cards in. Yugioh OCG using a unique banlist and having such a unique format has also led to tons of instances of archetypes doing well or flopping in OCG but flopping or being stronger over here.
Not that TCG sets and gacha are all that comparable imo given the intense resource management or whaling cost of a gacha vs the relatively modest amount of money needed to buy a few singles from a new TCG set that is officially spoiled weeks in advance anyways. Yeah I guess you get to see a regional and some locals from Japan that let you know if something is as mediocre or as broken as people assume they will be but most of the time the early reviews are spot on.
Idk literally every other competitive game you can play has universal rulesets and conditions that allow anyone to compete with anyone at anytime in an official capacity.
But all I really care about is that I don't view a mild amount of foresight being worth a feeling of arbitrary separation between the scenes until official international competition just forces a unified cardpool anyway.
Obv it will never change, just kinda wish it did.
@@SomniaCE You misunderstand my argument about gatcha. It's a cultural thing not specifically stuck to card games. Obv card games could speed up release to catch up with Japanese. Then logically they don't because certain Japan/OCG companies ensure their release first. You see that in anime collab merchandise or Japanese video game releases companies may put their release before international. For some reason MtG or Hoyoverse games didn't have a problem moving to simultaneous release worldwide so for me people who argue 'translating takes time' falls flat to me.
Is the one water energy 7:22 to bait the manaphy play?
Yup! I believe I said that in the video 😬
No Hydrapple decks? :(
Covered Hydrapple in this video! th-cam.com/video/HjndGIfKtcw/w-d-xo.html
Why do you think regidrago won't be a top contender in the stellar crown environment? The only issue I see is raging bolt on the rise but I feel like you can easily fix that with jamming tower + radiant zard. Zard will be still great matchup, dragapult feels a little bit favoured imo as well. I feel pretty confident going into the new format with Regidrago Vstar :) I would like to know your thoughts on this.
It might very well be a top contender but it will be one of the top decks, not the best deck. The worlds meta will carry over with the turbo decks being able to combat drago as well as dragapult ex attacking turn 2 more consistently, palkia vstar being a new archetype that regdriago is unfavored vs. . we’ll probably see Regidrago come down to around 8-12% metashares and be around tier 1 to high tier 2.
No one Loyal 3? 😢
I do not understand the roaring moon with only one water energy 😅
It’s not uncommon for Japanese players to run one-of cards in their lists specifically to “trick” their opponent into playing around a threat that isn’t actually there. (Tricking opponents to play around Greninja snipe when it actually isn’t possible with 1 water)
force a benched manaphy to take up what could be a draw pokemon. Not great idea to use a trick in BO3 but in japan where they play BO1 its interesting.
@@beuks4478 yeah, but still you can bluff that play even with 3 W energy...
@@jacobmorin5835 takes deck space with that and e-switch
@@jacobmorin5835 takes deck space to play 2 MORE water and 2 e-switch. i still think that the card should just be cut
No Terapagos or hydrapple 😢
Terapagos is part of the palkia deck. It’s very good specifically with palkia so far. Hydrapple on the other hand I’ll cover from smaller tournaments soon!
Cadê o Chien Pao?
I don’t think you explained Briar correctly, you can only play it when your opp is at 2 prizes remaining so you can’t make the 4 prize play you’re describing
The opponent is at 2 prizes, you can be at any amount of prizes. So if you're at 4 prizes here, you can play briar while your opponents at 2, ko the active for 3 and one of the bench for 1 with the phantom dive counters.
@@CeliosNetwork yeup, had that backwards my bad lol
Or even 5 if you collet damage on something like lumineon or Squawka
Chein pao 😢
2:58 doesn't work like that it's only your opponents active Pokemon
You’ll take 3 from knocking out the active 2 prizer and 1 from the single prizer you cleaned up on the bench = 4.
I was losing sleep waiting for this video - I need this format 🫨