Chris Hayes: Why campus protests are 'the easier debate'
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- Chris Hayes: It's easier to argue about what college kids are doing than to confront the human misery and destruction that's happening in the actual conflict which is, of course, the source of these protests.
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Finally someone with guts at MSNBC
check out Joy Reid as well
have we already forgotten Mehdi Hassan
@@jbmazhar2000 of course not but he’s not there anymore precisely because he had guts and was fired
@@jbmazhar2000 not at all! But Mehdi is gone now (Zeteo!)
how did this even make it on air? props to Chris Hayes for being on the right side of history.
This is pretty typical commentary for MSNBC opinion hosts. Simplistic, but exactly what most of their audience wants to hear.
Sad that it's so surprising.
@@themaskedman221 It's an implicit criticism of Biden admin which is not really common on MSNBC is it?
@@themaskedman221 I wouldn't call Chris' take "typical commentary". Far from it
@@themaskedman221 have you been watching morning joe?
This is the only coverage I have seen today that actually focuses on the core issue at hand. Really great work Hayes.
Hear! Hear! 👍😎
The border , high inflation , Afghanistan
@@danielmackay8099 All issues worthy of scrutiny and debate. And all issues having nothing whatsoever with the issue at hand.
@@danielmackay8099 Do you know what the phrase "the issue at hand" means?
@@danielmackay8099i advice all migrants descendants to come back into Europe leaving America to their indigenous red Indians live peacefully
Thank you Chris. Finally someone in the mainstream who speaks the truth.
Chris Hayes thank you. I sobbed listening to this. Thank you for speaking the truth that history will show. Politicians think if they lie, the truth will not be told, but history will tell the truth about genocide in Gaza and abuse by authorities and police on our own campuses. As a Jewish democrat, I am horrified that this is happening under a democratic president and in my own city of Los Angeles, that Karen Bass is allowing police brutality on our campuses.
Thanks arlene for using your reason and humanity and experience and upbringing to empathize and support this issue in a time when so many people want to look away, deny, or even destroy the facts of what is happening in Gaza. Much love and may you be kept safe and supported ❤
@@alchemistbrotv1707 I can’t sleep at night knowing the horrors that “my people” are committing in my name. And our government and media are all afraid of the Israeli lobbyists. Glad Chris finally opened his mouth and spoke the truth. So far I only see John Stewart adressing this. Even Colbert hasn’t said a word. Trump trump trump. That’s all anyone talks about. Trump will be our next president for sure if Biden doesn’t grow some balls and stop Netanyahu.
Do your remember who else cooked babies in ovens?
@@bigslim42371: Unproven, likely propaganda.
2: Even if it had actually happened? How would you feel about US citizens being given the Palestinian treatment just because some US soldiers did something horrible in another country???!
Watch out Chris. This type of reporting/commentary will get you sacked. You might have to team up with Medhi.
Everyone knows today that Israel is a terrorist organisation.
While I don't want Chris to leave MSNBC, he could do a lot worse than joining Mehdi
For sure...
He’s too good for MSNBC anyway
In the UK , an LBC journalist who gave an Israeli spokesperson a hard time in a recent radio interview has been sacked and replaced by a prominent supporter of Israel's siege of Gaza.
The best commentary I've heard about the protests. The context no one is talking about
Be careful Chris Hayes… talking like this got Medhi Hassan fired… the higher ups may be listening…so disappointed in MSNBC… but I’m proud of you for this insightful posting
The response to STUDENT protests in this country whether today or in the sixties is frankly repugnant. It’s uncivilized and is the sort of thing that makes a joke of our claims of democracy and human dignity.
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I was in high school when the national guard killed 4 students at Kent state ...I thought we had learned so much....till now.
Were you in a coma during the BLM years? Protesters were treated brutally by Trump's Brown Shirt thugs all across the US. And protestors got it a lot worse in the 50's - 70's. We've got a way to go, but from the 2000's on protestors have been treated better than before. However, if the GOP ever gets power again at the Fed level, there will be no protests or even any non-state sanctioned assemblies allowed again.
Hi Chris: thank you so much for your reasonable approach to this awful situation. I used to like Morning Joe, but their rhetoric about the student protests is wrong & inflammatory. Thank you for being a voice of reason.
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Nah, it just depends who is saying it. I listen to different sides, even sides I don't agree with. That's the problem with these days, everyone is so entrenched.
morning Joe is a fool. this is not about the protesters it's about a genocide
Finally! A refreshing and well-rounded piece that thoroughly covers the entire scope of the situation. Great work, Chris!
antiintellectualism and an inability to learn from history
Thanks for proving their point, Dave.
That describes these students perfectly.
- Netanyahu let the attack happen on his own country, despite knowing about the attack 3 days before it happened.
- Music festival was organised with lot of foreigners just 3 miles away from the border. On whose order?
- Music festival was extended by one day as the attack did not happen when it was thought to happen. On whose order?
- Noticing that music festival casualty were less, used IDF to increase the casualties in the music festival. On whose order?
@@SadaK-tr6dm that’s a wacky conspiracy theory. You must believe 911 was an inside job.
@@SadaK-tr6dm The people at the festival were the victims
Palestine started the war
A war that’s killed 13,000 children and six months. Search your conscience for an answer that addresses that question.
Thank you for trying to present an objective view of both sides of this conflict. My late husband was a pacificist and would be appalled at what we ostensibly are supporting.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If USA/West Leadership refuse to recognize
- Starvation,Death Camps,Gassing/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Amounts to Holocaust
- Condemn Holocaust or Deny Holocaust?
Finally prime time news talking about this
Do you remember the Cop City Protests in Atlanta? THIS militarized response is G.I.L.E.E.
(The Georgia International Law Enforcement Exchange)
Why have our police officers from all over the country been trained by the Israeli Army for decades now?
You'll find the answers to this in the a Mainline article from Sept 2020 titled "From Atlanta to Palestine"
And those answers will answer so many decades old questions about the rise of police brutality in America.
Today's America is The Land of the Free with selective restrictions
A work in progress.
Yes you can't protest against Jews
Did you not watch the video? Protestors got it a lot worse in the 50's - 70's. We've got a way to go, but from the 2000's on, EXCEPT under trump's fascist regime (when he especially cracked down on BLM protests and called for protestors to be beaten and jailed) protestors have been treated better than before. However, if the GOP ever gets power again at the Fed level, there will be no protests or even any non-state sanctioned assemblies allowed again.
Yeah, those restrictions being you can't break into buildings
@@jeffgojail shadow banning is real, brought to you by the Democrats .
thank you for trying to tell the truth
Undoubtedly, the best analysis on whats happening at U.S universities. Kudos!
I was a Vietnam War student protestor. Thank you for your understanding and voicing of the source of the students' protest as motivated by compassion for humans who are suffering and dying and your unveiling of the way the university administration requested police responses have been vastly disproportionate and have prejudiced the public against the protesters!! Mahalo!
Fake..you never protested Vietnam War
The only difference between Gaza and the college campus protests is that missiles are flying in Gaza. Same genetic freaks.
It's an election year. .. what do you expect?
We protested, we didn't occupy and we voted.
@@wendygerrish4964 and I’m sure you weren’t waving a North Vietnam flag, with your faces covered
Thank you Chris Hayes. Finally a mainstream news out let that looks at the reality of the situation.
Thank you Chris Hayes
It's driving me mad that our newsrooms are avoiding that particular context ... Why are the majority protesting? The pro Palestine or pro Israel also lacks context in a lot of reporting that I have seen as well.
1 they have too much time and money on their hands
2 virtue signaling and entitlement
@@silentmajority8365 What are you referring to? Protesters or The newsroom?
If it´s the protesters you need to change your username, just saying.
@@silentmajority8365 Imagine thinking that university students have too much money. You're a clown.
@@silentmajority8365 No. It's because they are well aware that a genocide is going on and that the US is involved.
Someone whining about "entitlement" in defense of Israel is absurd.
19% of students found the Gaza conflict relevant just over a week ago. 22% of those arrested are NOTstudents. Clearly, there is outside interference making the demos worse. Who benefits the most from destabilizing the US internally? What outside influence has a history of interfering in our politics? Why isnt' this being covered? Why isn't this interference being acted against?
I've noticed a lot of the pro-Israel students don't realize that feeling uncomfortable because your beliefs have been challenged is not the same as being threatened. It's good to feel uncomfortable and college is the best time to feel uncomfortable. Discomfort means you're being exposed to ideas that differ from your own and, hopefully, you're learning.
That's a fake analogy. Students have the right to have an academic experience that is not disrupted by outside agitators and uninformed protesters. They pay a lot of money for that education. Disgruntleds don't have the right to tear up the campus and obstruct the learning process and block normal campus activity.
How about the idea of one divine Creator? Does that make you uncomfortable?
I don’t get how American students feel threatened or insulted by a protest against a different country
There’s the difference between pro Israel students, and Jewish student. Some of the Jewish students that have been threatened with actual threats of violence, support the calls for a ceasefire and the pro Palestinian side. Yet they are being threatened with violence because of their who they are. That is not acceptable and it’s not the same as feeling uncomfortable.
I’m sensing projection in your post.
You are obscene
This is the first sane coverage I've heard on the issue. 'How' tens of thousands of people choose protest is not as important as 'why' tens of thousands of people are choosing to protest. Basic exclusionary screens against companies or individual of countries that commit human rights abuses are a common implementation of portfolio guidelines in this decade.
You cannot buy Russian securities. Individuals linked to Russia were forced to sell their stakes in businesses. It doesn't matter if Russia claims that they are battling an anti-Semitic authoritarian regime. What matters are the ruined cities, indiscriminate attacks on civilians, displacement of the local populace, and mass graves.
I personally think schools, hospital, and religious organizations probably shouldn't hold ownership in companies that generate their revenues from weapons. I thought that was common sense, and I am a bit shocked to see that these endowments were not already divested from those firms.
ALL Israeli businesses is a different matter. I think the documented large flows into investments like Lockeed Martin in November is more concerning and morally reprehensible than schools having equity in SodaStream.
Just when I think there's no truth left in NBC, ABC, CBS, or CNN, here comes a real journalist. Thank you.
Thank you for being reasonable unlike morning Joe :-)
Joe Scarborough is such a neocon
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Morning Joke
Yes, I was just thinking that. Joe Scarborough’s show on this was awful - so one sided !
Joe's trying to woo back the advert revenues from the military industrial complex - his bonuses are dwindling...
I served in the first Gulf War. At the time, I was pretty thoroughly indoctrinated. It wasn't until I got home and learned the truth that we were not told that I turned my face toward peace. Since then, I have been skeptical of any divisive rhetoric on war whether for or against.
The situation in Israel/Palestine is about as divisive as it gets. In my frame, I cannot be 100% on one side or the other, but it obviously must stop. Menachim Begin was able to make peace with Yasser Arafat in the late 1970s, and things were calmed down for a while. Let's try that again. If it has to be revisited every few years, let's commit to doing that.
I’m a Canadian veteran who served in Afghanistan and I completely agree with where you’ve ended up. As soon as I hear divisive rhetoric I immediately question the premise of their arguments, and the source their information. Nothing is ever black-and-white and anyone who cannot see that the world is made of shades of grey and nothing comes from division, isn’t worth my time. I choose peace because I’ve seen war. Peace doesn’t come from division.
@@carlyar5281 That's right. No one hates war more than those who have lived it.
Pat Tillman, Golf War.
Big WAR’s started by little people.
The Jan 6 Coup Continues!
I agree with you completely. I cannot understand the thirst for 'all or nothing' that's taken over everyone and getting the most attention. One correction: Begin made piece with Sadat, the Egyptian president. It took another 12 years for the Israeli and Palestinian leaders to try and adopt compromise as a guiding principle. They were eventually replaced by populists, opportunists and fanatics and here we are.
Thann you for covering this in the right way!!!
Bravo!! Bravo!! We need more reporting like this!!
Omg! I didn't know that about Sam Jackson. So cool!❤❤
I wonder why he's staying silent about the current important issues.
@@tymax6751he is in his 70s. It's called passing the torch.
@@andreabrown4541 its called being too comfortable to care
@@p5rsona Assata Shakur said it, and Coretta Scott King said it, too.
There are always two sides of the story. The question is what value you hold up the most. It is clear that for those brave kids, empathy towards humanity matters.
Chris Hayes, send a resume to Zeteo. You'll get sacked soon.
Excellent analysis, Chris. Your voice of reason and empathy is appreciated. This perspective has been disturbingly absent in the MSM during this conflict and these campus protests. In fact, the amount of absurd gaslighting and persecution of pro-Palestine demonstrators by law enforcement and politicians has been disgusting. Morning Joe has been absolutely appalling on this topic. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, Chris Hayes, for the prudence and the human empathy of this monologue.
Key word is EMPATHY
Excellent Analysis. MSNBC can play a role in clarifying the way forward, and resisting the extremists
I wonder why nobody mentions the Kent State Massacre...
Kent State is not relevant to Israel.
The song Ohio has been making its rounds again. So, it has.
@@earthman808 Good to hear
Because then Israel, the IDF and their Supporters would look like even bigger Fascists then they already are. Doesn't go with the Narrative. Maybe IDF should stop putting up tweets of them crapping on Prayer Rugs of Dead Families. IDK just a thought. The whole Public Perception thing that apparently Israel forgot about.
Because alot people support the violence at Kent State
Bravo!
That's the first time I've seen a major outlet ask... do these protesters have a point?
The greatest threat to safety and democracy are a bunch of peacefully protesting kids? Come on now. 🙄🍉
Finally someone is saying it!
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Finally, someone at MSNBC has the courage to make a clear statement on immoral war on Gaza
Thank you Chris! You now have my undying loyalty, unlike my erstwhile loyalty to your colleagues.
great job chris this was well needed
Thank you. Human rights for Palestine and Palestinians.
Wooow I'm surprised someone on the main stream medias dare to report objectively about the issue of GAZA ...Thank you Hayes and I hope that you will keep your job
Thank you for focusing on protestors
It's about time!
"The songs of slaves represent the sorrows of his heart; and he is relieved by then, only as an aching heart is relieves by its tears."
~ Frederick Douglass (1818-1895), American orator, writer, editor, and abolitionist leader.
How moving to hear the protesters remembered the songs 🎵 of long ago and sang them soulfully and quite well. Non-violent, peaceful protests. 🕊
Thank you Chris a refreshing taste of reality.
Chris sits to pee.
What's his pronouns ?
A man commenting on what another man does in his bathroom is very 💅
Is D for
Deflect?
Distort?
Discredit?
@@Jetty-hs6kx"his" is a pronoun
Well said. Thank you, Mr Hayes. This took some bravery on your part, and on the part of your producers. Kudos!
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Medhi Hassan has a new media outlet called Zeteo. Worth a look.
Careful Chris. As soon as you give a balanced viewpoint, you run the risk of getting sacked.
Fantastic.
Kudos Mr. Chris Hayes, you are one of the few American journalists I still trust.
I hope they don’t take this down or punish you for this commentary. You really are too good for MSNBC. Perhaps you should be with Mehdi /Zeteo. Great commentary!
Now Chris Hayes can go home and look at his kids in the eyes and tell them he's taking a step toward trying to stop a genocide. When they grow up, they can decide if they are proud of their father.
THANK YOU!! for bringing a sense of history and proportion to the campus protests today.
Thank you 🙏
Apparently, Sam Jackson has always been a bad mf.
Interesting.
Thx Chris
Nice take, Mr Hayes.
Best way to deal with protests is to ignore them if you don't like what they protest.
The two state solution was dashed when Yitzhak Rabin was prime minister of Israel. He was assassinated by a member of a right wing faction of a political party that the current Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was a leader of. It occurred after the Oslo accords in which a pathway for peace, was formed, with the recognition of a two state solution.
After he was murdered the Housing Ministry began flooding colonists onto the very territory that was to be the State of Palestine. Think of that. Israel was willing to murder its own Prime Minister to prevent Palestinians, who had recognized Israel, from having a state of their own.
Thank you, Chris! Finally, some honest truth.
Thank you, Chris, for bringing some much needed perspective to this. I rarely if ever hear this in the mainstream media.
Well said, Mr Hayes.
Well said Chris! Hope you're able to keep your job after reporting and commenting on truth 👍
Thanks Chris
Thank you Chris.
Thank you for giving us the Big Picture. Context is everything.
Chris is gonna get fired for this.
Thank you for this, Chris ❤
Some brave people are on the right side of history.
Can't belive this I am watching this on MZNBC, Thanks Chris. ONE rare voice of reason on MSM.
Well done Chris. In time, those with strong words against you will look at you fondly.
Freedom of speech is what makes America unique. You don't have to agree with the speech, but it is American to support that right. Suddenly, politicians and most of the media became censorship fascists.
If this gets out of hand the democrats and republicans supporting war crimes are toast. Also the democratic convention is gonna be crazy
No, only the democrats will be toast. The Republicans are united as are the red states in their hatred of anyone who is left of center. There is a lot more of them then there are of leftists. I’m a moderate firmer republican, and I’m voting for Biden because Trump has done very scary plans for the country (specifically leftists and Muslims). I’m hearing from other moderates and never trumpers that thinking of sitting this election out so Trump will win, so you all will learn a lesson. Cutting off your nose despite your face type attitude. That’s how big their hatred is for the left in this country. Right now the left is preaching to the choir, and bringing in non left people into what they want to protest.
Yes thank you Chris please continue with this reporting.
I can’t believe he actually spoke the truth, and spoke to what is in the advantage of the US. Isra el is a liability
Brilliant segment!
You are the only mainstream political commentator to make sense and ask the right question!❤👏🏼🙌🏼
Back then in 68 when they protested they were castrated but history since have proven them right.History will also judge this students down the road .
Thank you.... thank you.... now I can share a mainstream media clip with my relatives
Great work!! Thank you.
Well said.
Thank you so much Chris for this thoughtful analysis. I had written off MSNBC for some of their shallow disingenuous coverage of the protests. This brought me back. Bravo!
Good job chris! Finally someone on cable news with the stones to say what’s really going on. Everyone with critical thinking skills and a working moral compass has this take …unfortunately that combination of traits is severely lacking in the cable media and the US government.
Thank you for speaking the truth Chris. Keep up the good work
Finally, reasonable coverage and discussion of the nuances. It’s never as simple as people want to make it out to be. Thank you Chris for laying out for your viewers.
Thank you sir. Thank you very much
Thank you Chris!!!!!!
God bless you sir because you are telling the truth that is missing by a lot of anchors. You are a great human being sir.
Chris you should start your own independent news channel!!! You're too good for MSNBC!!
You’re literally the best reporter out there
Superb monologue. Hats off
Thank you Chris there's hope.
That’s a real take compared to the nonsense Fareed Zakaria came up with!
As Mehdi Hassan says " Context is important"
much respect Chris !
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